I just got the OTA update from KitKat to Lollipop (5.0.2) yesterday and I've noticed terrible battery life and very slow charging since then. My phone is always in its charger overnight and when I remove it from the charger in the morning it usually easily lasts until I put it in the charger at night again. During the daytime I do a lot of stuff on it (whatching youtube videos, listen to internet radio, whatsapp, internet browsing, making phonecalls etc).
This morning I removed it from the charger and hardly didn't do anything on it for the first two hours. When I wanted to send a whatsapp, I noticed battery had already fallen to 70% in only 4 hours or so - 4 hours of doing nothing while the phone was in energy savings mode! Half way through the day, with only some whatsapping, battery had fallen to 20%. When I connected it to the charger, it instantly dropped to 8%. After about an hour of charging, it was at 17% and said it would last another 6 hours before the phone would be fully charged. Usually I charge my phone in 1.5 - 2 hours!
When I did the update, I didn't do a factory reset and I would like to only do that as a last resort.
If I look at te battery statistics, I don't see any app using an obscene amount of battery life - the highest being Google Play services with 15%. But what I do notice is that "Cell standby" is responsible for 29% of the battery drainage.
Before I do a factory reset, anyone any tips?
Zippy1970 said:
I just got the OTA update from KitKat to Lollipop (5.0.2) yesterday and I've noticed terrible battery life and very slow charging since then. My phone is always in its charger overnight and when I remove it from the charger in the morning it usually easily lasts until I put it in the charger at night again. During the daytime I do a lot of stuff on it (whatching youtube videos, listen to internet radio, whatsapp, internet browsing, making phonecalls etc).
This morning I removed it from the charger and hardly didn't do anything on it for the first two hours. When I wanted to send a whatsapp, I noticed battery had already fallen to 70% in only 4 hours or so - 4 hours of doing nothing while the phone was in energy savings mode! Half way through the day, with only some whatsapping, battery had fallen to 20%. When I connected it to the charger, it instantly dropped to 8%. After about an hour of charging, it was at 17% and said it would last another 6 hours before the phone would be fully charged. Usually I charge my phone in 1.5 - 2 hours!
When I did the update, I didn't do a factory reset and I would like to only do that as a last resort.
If I look at te battery statistics, I don't see any app using an obscene amount of battery life - the highest being Google Play services with 15%. But what I do notice is that "Cell standby" is responsible for 29% of the battery drainage.
Before I do a factory reset, anyone any tips?
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This is directly from HTC tech support. To recalibrate battery and HTC charger when battery rapidly or erratically discharges, this procedure clears all battery stats, coordinates and normalizes charging.
Turn off Fast Boot in settings. Power off phone.
Plug phone into HTC wall charger and charge for two minutes or more
While charging, hold down volume up+volume down+power button and continue holding
Phone will turn on and off repeatedly every 15 seconds or so while continuing to hold all three buttons
Keep this going for 2 minutes, then release buttons WHEN THE PHONE IS ON
Now, let phone charge fully normally (with phone either on or off--doesn't matter) and battery level reporting, charging and battery life should be normalized.
Do this every month or so to keep power system healthy--even if everything seems fine. Also, don't leave phone on charger overnight for best long term battery life (according to HTC tech support: "The first thing they tell us." This is true even though charging is supposed to turn off when battery is at 100%)
Battery recalibration ... Many techs say it's a placebo. But, I will follow this manual, just in case.
I do confirm, though, that with L 5.0.2 charging takes longer, phone drains faster with the same as before apps and usage, phone is often hot, and I've started to get regular 'can't charge, your phone uses more power than available from charger'.
Re phone uses more power than available, it happens with all three original HTC chargers I have, so I have to use the charger from an Asus tablet (1.5A output).
I haven't done the recalibration thing but I did some measurements and I now know why it's charging so slowly, just not what is causing it. The phone isn't switching to high charging mode and keeps charging at around 400mA. This means that when using the phone, it's draining faster than it can charge. I also think it's not switching to standby mode causing the high drain. Often the phone gets hot when it's in my pocket (when it is supposed to be in standby mode) meaning something is still draining the battery fast.
I will do the calibration thing and see if that helps.
I just did the reset thing (holding power + vol up + vol down) for two minutes. It's now charging but I can see it's still not charging in high mode. It's still charging at only 400mA.
Edit: Phone says it wil take 10 hours to charge (it's at 30% now).
Annoying, I know, but I'd factory reset the phone just to make sure the update has 'taken' correctly
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... The phone isn't switching to high charging mode and keeps charging at around 400mA. ...
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Sounds logical. How did you find it out? Instrumental, or through a phone menu?
I have checked Setings/Power. Mine says Charging on AC, which supposedly means high charging mode.
PS. Again, whatever it might mean, when I get a 'phone uses more power than..' error, I connect the phone to a 1.5A charger (compared to original HTC 1.0A) and it solves the problem. I'm not happy with this solution, though.
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There are a few ways I can measure this. I have a "Charger Doctor", one of those inline USB voltage/current meters and I have an "Energy Meter" which measures wattage going out of a 110/220V socket. Both confirm each others measurements. The Charger Doctor says my phone is being charged at 5.1V at 0.4A, and the energy meter says the charger consumes about 2.5W which is about right (the charger looses some energy through heat and the Charger Doctor consumes a bit of energy as well).
But...
To be sure, I tested a few different (but identical) chargers and changing the charger made no difference. But - and here comes the strange part - I tested about 20 different USB cables and with only two my phone charged at 1.0A (which I assume is the M7's max charging current). With all the others it charged with 0.3A-0.5A. Only with those two cables it charges in high charging mode. So apparently something changed in the charger detection. Before the update I was able to charge the phone in high charging mode with other cables as well.
Also, it seems like it's now discharging not as fast as before, but I will be sure tomorrow after it has fully charged and after I've used it all day.
Edit: Yep, charging is at it's normal speed now. It's at 60% and the phone says it will be 1 hour and 1 minute until it's fully charged.
Edit2: Of the two cables it charges at 1.0A with, one is the original charger cable that came with the HTC, and the other is a cable that came with a Duracell Power Bank.
Well, after the three finger calibration, charging seems faster, and I think battery holds longer (or maybe I want to think it does, because still not sure).
One additional observation is in about 20% cases my phone is stuck during boot until I connect or disconnect the charger for a second. By connecting or disconnecting the charger, something triggers the power state and the phone boots normally.
So yes, you may be right about new power management in Android 5.
(I'm now on IC7.0.0 + ElementalX 20.0, HTC M7 Int'l))
Well, even though charging times seem normal now, it is slightly erratic. I can see the percentage making jumps up and sometimes down while charging.
Also, battery life still is very poor. Battery now lasts until halfway through the day while before it would easily last all day...
Is there a way to revert to KitKat? Other than a lot of annoyances I haven't noticed a single advantage using Lollipop.
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This is directly from HTC tech support. To recalibrate battery and HTC charger when battery rapidly or erratically discharges, this procedure clears all battery stats, coordinates and normalizes charging.
Turn off Fast Boot in settings. Power off phone.
Plug phone into HTC wall charger and charge for two minutes or more
While charging, hold down volume up+volume down+power button and continue holding
Phone will turn on and off repeatedly every 15 seconds or so while continuing to hold all three buttons
Keep this going for 2 minutes, then release buttons WHEN THE PHONE IS ON
Now, let phone charge fully normally (with phone either on or off--doesn't matter) and battery level reporting, charging and battery life should be normalized.
Do this every month or so to keep power system healthy--even if everything seems fine. Also, don't leave phone on charger overnight for best long term battery life (according to HTC tech support: "The first thing they tell us." This is true even though charging is supposed to turn off when battery is at 100%)
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that wouldn't work for me i don't have fastboot
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that wouldn't work for me i don't have fastboot
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lol :silly: you cant rule out that it wont work just because HTC decided to remove the software switch in the power options in its later updates, do the rest of it and skip that part, I dont have the option for fastboot either anymore.
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lol :silly: you cant rule out that it wont work just because HTC decided to remove the software switch in the power options in its later updates, do the rest of it and skip that part, I dont have the option for fastboot either anymore.[/QUOTE
i have done everything i can i even have a battery saver but soon as i put wifi on it just drains so fast maybe a new battery will help as this phone is like 2nd hand so maybe battery dying
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I had terrible battery problems after T-Mobile upgraded my HTC One (M7) to Lollipop. The phone was constantly awake and churning with the GPS probing for a signal every few seconds. I'd lose 50% of my battery in a couple of hours. I went through the battery recalibration suggested by HTC support, but it didn't work well. Finally I did the factory reset. It worked perfectly! Now my battery life is better than ever and the phone will go well over 24 hours on a single charge with normal usage. Recovering from the factory reset was easier than I anticipated. Google Play Store remembered and reloaded all my apps automatically. The only headache was having to log in to everything again. Well worth the effort.
I did a factory reset as well and it looks like it has improved battery life. I'm still on my first day after the reset so I won't be able to really tell after I've used it for a couple of days. But like I said, the hard reset seems to have made a difference.
It has been 15 hours now since I unplugged the phone from the charger and it still has 43% left. But I just noticed a few minutes ago that two energy settings were set different than before the hard reset. Screen brightness was set to auto (when before I had set it to it's first dim setting), and data connection was set to switch off after a long period of inactivity. (while before it was set to always on). I've changed those settings and see if that makes a (big) difference.
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I did a factory reset as well and it looks like it has improved battery life. I'm still on my first day after the reset so I won't be able to really tell after I've used it for a couple of days. But like I said, the hard reset seems to have made a difference.
It has been 15 hours now since I unplugged the phone from the charger and it still has 43% left. But I just noticed a few minutes ago that two energy settings were set different than before the hard reset. Screen brightness was set to auto (when before I had set it to it's first dim setting), and data connection was set to switch off after a long period of inactivity. (while before it was set to always on). I've changed those settings and see if that makes a (big) difference.[/QUOT
leave your wifi on for about a hour then tell me if any different
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leave your wifi on for about a hour then tell me if any different
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I have Wifi always on.
Tested it for another day and battery life has definitely improved quite a bit but it's still nowhere near what it used to be with KitKat.
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I have Wifi always on.
Tested it for another day and battery life has definitely improved quite a bit but it's still nowhere near what it used to be with KitKat.
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when i woke up this morning my m7 was 100% it's now 11;10 and it,s now 70%
I'm getting exactly the same problem.
HTC support said they never heard about such a problem and their conclusion is to send the phone to be repaired
I don't know how to rollback to previous version and it doesn't looks like to be a new fixed version on the way.
Or at list I haven't heard about it.
I also noticed it doesn't make much of a difference if I turn on energy savings mode.
With KitKat, my phone would easily last the whole day without energy savings mode. Now with lollipop I have to hook it up to a charger in the evening - even with energy savings mode enabled.
The thing that sucks the most is that my phone drains in alarming rate when playing a game, or listening to online radio or watching youtube videos. 30 minutes and battery drops from 100% to 50%. And the phone gets really, really hot. Before lollipop, it would drain perhaps from 100% to 85% and the phone would not heat up at all.
There are so many annoying bugs/features with lollipop, I'm considering an iPhone for the very first time ever as my next phone. Mind you, I've never been a fan of Apple stuff. But Android is just getting ridiculously bloated and simply doesn't work very well anymore. It looks like every update makes my phone less usable. And I hate the fact Google thinks it's perfectly fine to disable/remove stuff that people have come to depend on. Like my notes (amongst man other things). Google in all its wisdom has removed the Notes app making all my notes inaccessible. The only way to get my notes back is to install some third party app from the Play Store and have it transfer my notes to the cloud. First of all, I don't want a third party app handling my notes. And I most certainly don't want my notes stored in the cloud. I travel quite a bit and I don't have internet access everywhere I go, making my notes inaccessible again.
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My Diamond won't charge to full capacity! I tried to charge it overnight two times and the first time my telephone charged it was 70 procent charged after 1 night. (7/8 hours) and the second night (5/6 hours) with the same percent when i woke up. I had it once 100% but after installing hardSPL and the hardreset it drop instantly to 40%. (i just installed that , and nothing more.)
Connected the telephone to the charger again and i've got a full lit led ring. After turning the device on the ring went 'charging' again. The capacity was 75%. In windows.
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My Diamond won't charge to full capacity! I tried to charge it overnight two times and the first time my telephone charged it was 70 procent charged after 1 night. (7/8 hours) and the second night (5/6 hours) with the same percent when i woke up. I had it once 100% but after installing hardSPL and the hardreset it drop instantly to 40%. (i just installed that , and nothing more.)
Connected the telephone to the charger again and i've got a full lit led ring. After turning the device on the ring went 'charging' again. The capacity was 75%. In windows.
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Definatly sounds like a faulty cell in your battery
At least its not the phone thats broken, a battery is easily replaced.
I also have a strange battery issue! Mine won't charge if the Diamonf is switched on.
The Battery only will charge if I switch the Touch Diamond OFF, If it’s turned off, not only the display. With Running OS, when I plug the AC adaptor, it only show few seconds the charging breathing LEDs and then stops, the indicator also doesn’t show the charge symbol but the full charged battery instead but the LED indicator is not full white as it should be in full charge state and the battery of course drains down… I’ve tested with another AC adaptor, another USB charger, even car charger (I have the HTC original one), still the same behaviour.
Could this be related to the developer HardSPL? I also have this behaviour after that installation... weird
Any kind of help would be appreciated!
Its unlikely its the hardspl. I would guess hardware issue, but if it charges while off then thats unlikely too.
I assume you've tried a hard reset already to rule out any application interferring with it?
Also what happens when you plug into your PC? same thing?
My best guess at this stage with most likely at the top:
1) Software issue - try hard reset
2) Battery issue - try another battery, or once fully charged look for a big drop in battery very quickly. There are some battery manager/monitors you can download which can monitor the voltage for you. If you can show me the drop in voltage of the battery i can conclusivly tell you if the battery has a fault.
3) Hardware issue with the phone - that would just suck!
update: Replaced my battery and charged it through the adapter, full 100%.But here's something that is stranger... I installed the battery in another diamond and that battery indicator was 100% full..
I hope that it was a battery problem, because i had so much troubles with the diamond so far! The new battery is lasting much longer, it's been 6hours and it didn't even lost a bar. (still 100%)
kenny89 said:
update: Replaced my battery and charged it through the adapter, full 100%.But here's something that is stranger... I installed the battery in another diamond and that battery indicator was 100% full..
I hope that it was a battery problem, because i had so much troubles with the diamond so far! The new battery is lasting much longer, it's been 6hours and it didn't even lost a bar. (still 100%)
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A fully charged cell has about 4.3v across it. As its drained of current the voltage drops to about 3.3v, when its fully depleted.
The phone uses this voltage level to display the current capacity of the battery
If a cell fails in the battery, as its capacity reduces its not able to provide enough current. Power = current x voltage
If the phone tries to draw normal current, the voltage drops excessivly to conserve the above formula. This shows in the phone as a decrease in battery capacity. The voltage across the battery drops to below 3.3v before the remaining cells are depleted, and although there is still enough current to suply the phone, there isnt enough voltage. Overall there isnt enough power (P=IV)
A rested battery may show enough voltage for a short while (when you first put it in) but the voltage will drop drasticly as soon as any significant current is drawn.
This is a really common failure in a bettery, and you can spot it very quickly when you see sharp drops in the battery meter.
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Also what happens when you plug into your PC? same thing?
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Yes, same thing...
My best guess at this stage with most likely at the top:
1) Software issue - try hard reset
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Don of course and even reflashed without installing any application, just synced with PC... same issue. In the mean time I even reflashed the stock SPL to try... and the Diamond is now charging in Off modus, so I'll turn it on tomorrow to give it a trial
2) Battery issue - try another battery, or once fully charged look for a big drop in battery very quickly. There are some battery manager/monitors you can download which can monitor the voltage for you. If you can show me the drop in voltage of the battery i can conclusivly tell you if the battery has a fault.
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I guess the Battery has an issue, but none is available quickly in my country, I'll have to try to order one abroad... let's check...
Thanks anyway for your advices...
I flashed my TD from 1.37.081 to 1.37.707.1 today and my battery went to 30 percent and not long after it wend dead again.
But there's something strange that i've discovered today.. my charger charges my phone really slow (with original cable and charger) but with the 3rd party adapter i charged todat (adapt htc, specifications are the same of the original adapter) it's normal and my phone doesn't warm up ( max 20 degrees celcius) so much as with the HTC adapter (40 or more degrees celcius?).
I flashed my TD from 1.37.081 to 1.37.707.1 today and my battery went to 30 percent and not long after it wend dead again.
But there's something strange that i've discovered today.. my charger charges my phone really slow (with original cable and charger) but with the 3rd party adapter i charged todat (adapt htc, specifications are the same of the original adapter) it's normal and my phone doesn't warm up ( max 20 degrees celcius) so much as with the HTC adapter (40 or more degrees celcius?).
Check the current on the 3rd party charger.
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(adapt htc, specifications are the same of the original adapter)
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output 5V/1A , same specs. input is a little different (110-220hz, 0,2A) against (110-220hz, 0,15A).. but that isn't a problem right? The output is the same.
Thats really strange. Yeah its the output that matters,
There should be no difference at all!
Yeah.. my Touch Diamond is f**** up as h****.. that's not only the problem. I used some GPRS today and my phone makes noises just like when you put a telephone next a speaker and it receives sms/calls. That's when i'm surfing on the web :O!
On top of that, my speaker quits after x seconds/minutes and doesn't make any sound at all and then works after x seconds/minutes. But it doesn't work after x seconds in the Touch Flo mp3player. So my ' precious diamond' is pretty worthless right now.
XzaniX said:
I also have a strange battery issue! Mine won't charge if the Diamonf is switched on.
The Battery only will charge if I switch the Touch Diamond OFF, If it’s turned off, not only the display. With Running OS, when I plug the AC adaptor, it only show few seconds the charging breathing LEDs and then stops, the indicator also doesn’t show the charge symbol but the full charged battery instead but the LED indicator is not full white as it should be in full charge state and the battery of course drains down… I’ve tested with another AC adaptor, another USB charger, even car charger (I have the HTC original one), still the same behaviour.
Could this be related to the developer HardSPL? I also have this behaviour after that installation... weird
Any kind of help would be appreciated!
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Check your settings: settings > power > checked off the "when device is turned on, do not charge...." ?
kenny89 said:
Yeah.. my Touch Diamond is f**** up as h****.. that's not only the problem. I used some GPRS today and my phone makes noises just like when you put a telephone next a speaker and it receives sms/calls. That's when i'm surfing on the web :O!
On top of that, my speaker quits after x seconds/minutes and doesn't make any sound at all and then works after x seconds/minutes. But it doesn't work after x seconds in the Touch Flo mp3player. So my ' precious diamond' is pretty worthless right now.
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That noise is caused by a harmonic of the GSM signal. It sounds like the grounding is not correct, either for the speaker or possibly a whole section of the circuit.
Not good!
I have the same thing - battery left on overnight does not result in 100% indication. Yet it often creeps up much higher after I have removed the charger! Have come to the conclusion that it is a software problem - terminal voltage tests OK.
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Check your settings: settings > power > checked off the "when device is turned on, do not charge...." ?
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-hi Bakman, of course this was my first check Anyway, is getting worse, now it even won't charge when switched off So I'll send it for repair I guess... I hate to wait for a new device, pay a huge amount of money for it and when you finally get it, it's defective
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I have the same thing - battery left on overnight does not result in 100% indication. Yet it often creeps up much higher after I have removed the charger! Have come to the conclusion that it is a software problem - terminal voltage tests OK.
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Same issue here. When charging the phone while it's *on*, it results in the indicator stopping at 75%-80%, no matter how long I charge.
I think once when charging through PC/USB, this did not happen and the battery did charge to full.
A soft reset results in the indicator displaying 100% battery however.
So is this a battery problem, or software/hardware problem?
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Same issue here. When charging the phone while it's *on*, it results in the indicator stopping at 75%-80%, no matter how long I charge.
I think once when charging through PC/USB, this did not happen and the battery did charge to full.
A soft reset results in the indicator displaying 100% battery however.
So is this a battery problem, or software/hardware problem?
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Sounds definately like a s/w problem to me, they will have to provide a fix in a ROM update I guess. Mine is OK at the minute though. Is yours UK or grey import?
Err, I bought the WWE version in Holland. Actually someone bought it for me, but that's not the point.
I did find out that using the advanced config tool to disable the setting "GPRS auto attach" really saves a lot of battery power! Yesterday my phone was idling the whole day and night, and battery only dropped 10-20%.
Right off the bat, my Revo is non-responsive, no buttons will light, backlight, vibration, sound, and of course no splash screen since the screen isn't lighting. The only sense that it is partly there is after a time connected to USB/wall charger the battery warms as if it is charging. Yet, there is no indication during charge on the screen, it stays totally black as described above.
I have been poring over forum posts, CWR threads, and the like, but have come up short on a method of reviving this puppy. thecubed had posted something that seemed promising but doesn't work for me here. At all steps, the phone remains non-responsive and connecting it to the PC yields no mass storage connection. The only step I have abbreviated is letting it charge for an hour since the phone had charged about four hours since it shut down.
Two evenings ago, I flashed from Revolt ROM 1.0 to 1.1. It was successful but since I had just gone through battery calibration and running my battery down until the phone shut down the day before when I flashed it to 1.0, I was hoping (naive?) that I wouldn't have to do it this time (yes, naive!). So, I left the phone on all night, on the wall charger.
I was using it the next day and at one point, while using it in a low reception area, browsing the web, it rebooted on me. No biggie, had that happen in the past. After reboot however, the battery level seemed different so I wanted to get it topped off then calibrate. 1-2 hours later I noticed that the calibration app was showing the mV lower and capacity was at 70%. The battery felt unusually hot. I shut it down, removed the battery and cooled both battery and phone in a small fridge to accelerate the process (was near time to leave work).
Next boot was I recall having an extra FC, one beside the CarHome normal FC with Revolt ROM 1.1. This boot the battery showed maybe 20% capacity so I said "screw it" and deleted battery.bin with the battery calibration app (I recall the mV was low, in the 3600 range). I discharged it on the way home and left the display on to run the last couple percent down. It appeared to try and shutdown but ended abruptly. That was the last time I saw any life from my Revo.
The day after its first and only ever root, I did have an odd occurrence which I posted.
Boot Trouble - Rooted After Phone Downloaded OTA, Not Installed
That time, I had not installed a ROM yet but the phone got itself into a boot up funk. Removing the battery, connecting to wall charger, watching buttons flash ~5 times, disconnecting (which stopped the flashing lights), then battery in, power on... success! I was hoping that would happen this time around but I haven't been able to.
Full history, being my first root, I used S1C successfully, installed Titanium Backup (ran system and app backup), and RevoToolkit. The phone did download the OTA but I never let it install, instead selecting to delay it by 24hrs when it asked to install. Fearing that deadline and getting one more warning that it wanted to reboot and install the OTA, I went ahead and installed the Revolt ROM 1.0. All went fine, no drama. The next afternoon I thought going to 1.1 was going well too, until this brick hit me.
My hope of hopes is it's just a bad battery and the phone won't respond because the mV is too low. Reading thecubed's comment in his first link (above) how recoverable this phone is lends me hope.
It sounds like a bad battery. I would take it to a verizon store and see if you can try a different battery. If it still will not boot then they should warranty it out for you.
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P.s. I never do anything for my battery. I charge until full then use until empty. Yesterday with moderate tI heavy use I made it from 6am until 8:30 pm
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Thanks for the responses. I will be going to VZW shortly to figure this out. This phone is maybe two months old so hopefully the battery is the answer *fingers crossed*
Impressive battery life! At my office, I'm in a bit of a metal cubicle area and a bit low on signal strength. My phones will sometimes use up the battery trying to keep connected, it seems, so I am usually plugged in most of the time.
While I have your ear, thanks for the great work on Revolt ROM. I am very happy with it and look forward to its future development
Good news and bad.
The good news was they swapped in a new battery and the phone worked. Having the warranty, it didn't cost anything.
The bad news is that it looks like there may be another problem. On the way out of the store the battery was indicating 1% so I quickly got it on the charger in the car. Driving home, about 10 minutes later, I got a warning for battery temperature. Thinking the low battery may just be taking a charge and getting hot from that, I turned the car A/C on full, took the back cover off, and kept the phone in the cold air.
In about two minutes, just feet from home, I noticed the display was off. Faintly I could see the battery charge symbol that shows when the phone is powered down and charging, but the backlight was off and I couldn't see if there was any color or animation to it.
As soon as I shut the car off and the power quit, that faint display disappeared, full black, dead. Now it seems it is behaving exactly the same. I haven't fiddled with it much, holding out hope of hopes it can be started and maybe recovered.
Could calibrating the battery at the wrong time have caused something like this? Do batteries have a safety lockout if they overheat? To be fair, I was running an intensive app at the time, Waze GPS. Maybe the battery didn't keep up and the phone decided it was too low and shut off. I will post back after letting it sit, cool, hopefully charge, and see what comes of it.
My phone is behaving exactly the way you describe too. A couple of days with Revolt 1.1, and this is the only problem. I had my phone hooked to a lithium ion usb battery pack all day, and it showed "100%" while hooked up, but as soon as I disconnected the battery pack, the battery icon changed to red, then it refused to boot like the situation described in the Revolt 1.1 thread in Development. It also would not go into charge mode on the battery pack, but when I came home and hooked it to a genuine AC adapter and it went into power-off charge display. I'm going to give it a few hours on the charger before I attempt to boot it again, and I'll report back.
Still no luck. I haven't charged it too much yet for fear that it isn't charging properly. Seeing the new battery work for about 20 minutes yesterday lent me hope that if I figure out how to get a fresh battery in or just shell out for another new one, I can have a window of opportunity to change ROMs and see if that has anything to do with it.
This morning I got out my digital multimeter to measure the battery pos to neg and am getting nothing (unless you consider 0.01v something). I tested my old LG clamshell's bulging, old, and damaged 1000mAh battery and it reads 3.99v but couldn't keep my old phone up (lacks oomph now).
Comparing that battery to the Revo's, they have the same four contact pattern but different connection scheme which just stops contact when test fitting. After shaving down its casing on the bottom a little bit, it was just enough to make contact. Using four hands (yes, I am very talented ) to hold the phone, hold the test battery properly, and hold the power button, I was able to get the power-up vibration and the first LG splash screen. We lost it after that but that's likely due to the very weak test battery and/or losing contact while holding it in the Revo.
Since the spankin' brand-new battery is now reading zero, I'm left second guessing my decision of not shutting the phone down when I got the temperature warning. Maybe these batteries do have an internal protection to prevent runaway failure and it too is trash. I have no experience with this otherwise so this is just guesswork.
I'm contemplating rigging the new battery into my old LG phone to see if it can tell it "all clear" and charge it up. I'll post anything I find out here. Any other suggestions are highly welcome. Still, last ditch, I'm pretty certain I can set up another ROM to flash on the SD ahead of time, get another battery, and Clockwork to test another ROM if it's the phone or ROM. I may have had 20 minutes of uptime on the last battery.
I think I've gotten to the bottom of my problem. It's a syndrome of things that I have hopefully untangled.
First off, I had been messing with Power Manager, and wanted the phone to not sleep or timeout the display when plugged into both AC and USB. I figured that would help when I'm plugged into the computer, but it was probably a bad choice.
Yesterday I was out on a boat, which probably put me into a weak signal area, causing the phone to expend extra energy staying locked on a tower. In addition, I had plugged it into the external USB power pack, and thrown them in a bag together. This did two very bad things: 1) It allowed heat to build up from both the charging and 2) it invoked the "USB powered" Power Manager profile which kept the display active which created both additional heat AND crazy battery drain.
Here's what I think happened:
1. The battery overheated
2. The USB battery pack couldn't charge as fast as the display and radio could suck it out -- so five hours in that mode BOTH drained the internal battery AND tapped into about 30% of the external battery pack.
3. The USB battery pack will not provide enough initial juice to restart a flat-dead, overheated phone, or the firmware "knows" it is hooked to USB and refuses to start the phone -- for some bizarre reason.
So, I think my phone demonstrated normal behavior for a flat-dead, overheated phone, and hooking it up to AC brought it right back to life -- after about 5 hours of continuous charging. The battery also got very warm during charging -- more than I recall feeling ever in the past.
I'm hoping there is nothing that software power management could have done to physically damage the battery, but I assume Verizon would claim it could -- as part of the reason they forbid system modifications, and therefore withdraw their warranty if you modify.
At this point I think I have dodge a bullet, and my phone is fine -- other than a few of the quirks others are seeing in Revolt 1.1 (Phone occasionally FC, etc.)
Good to hear your phone is fine. Seems like mine is too as posted above but time will tell. I got the Revo battery set up and charging on my old phone. It seems to be connected well enough. The phone complained the first try that there was no battery but my second try has it displaying that it is charging. The battery isn't warm at all but maybe that's due to a different charging rate for the old phone's 1000mAh battery vs. the Revo's 1500mAh. Or, it really isn't connected perfectly. We shall see.
Success. The surrogate charge setup got the Revo battery up to 4.11v and indicated charge complete. The Revo completed a full boot on the battery and appeared normal.
Not normal was quick heating (still unsure of the cause). Going straight to Battery Calibrator, it indicated 68% and around 3.7v and falling. Not wanting to push my luck, I shut it down. Battery now read 3.9v. Not bad but it sure seems to be getting drained quickly which would explain all the heat. Going to set up later and see if I can get it back to stock and see if the behavior persists.
I don't know how to fix any of your issues but I would like to say thanks for giving such a detailed display of what you've been doing to fix this problem should anyone else run into this issue. Also, That picture in you one post: That is the most jerry rigged set-up to charge a phone I have ever seen in my life and I love it. Good luck getting your phone working I hope everything turns out for the best.
You're welcome. It was a bit of impromptu brainstorming with some fellow tinkerers that helped come up with a way to test charge the battery. Having it come back to life
I've come to a conclusion. Somehow, I think when the battery overheats, it must internally soft protect itself. Charging it on the old phone reset it and then it worked again on the Revo. Why the old phone works and not the Revo, unsure. That would at least explain why the battery tested at zero volts before the charging rig.
After many starts and stops on my Revo now, I have found that what was heating up first was the casing of the phone. I'm guessing heat conduction of heat from the processor as it wasn't the display which was set to minimum brightness (those are the main heat sources, right?). Looking into Settings > About > Battery Stats, it only showed Android System at 98%. It seems like the processor got locked into some some high power continuous use situation which survived reboots.
The battery gets hot later due to the high consumption and proximity to the hot casing (processor), especially with the back on. Withing 1-2 minutes from start, the sides of the phone would be quite warm and after 5 minutes becomes concerning. It seems that's why the battery was never able to get to 100%, but instead its percentage was always falling, phone over consuming greater than charge rate.
With the processor going full tilt, battery cover on, protective case on phone, sitting in a warm car without A/C, that got the battery too hot within 20 minutes. It was a similar situation with the prior battery when the problem cropped up.
I don't know what the cause of this predicament was in the first place however. The phone was plain stock, then rooted, later flashed Revolt 1.0, then Revolt 1.1. Between Titanium Backup, RevoToolkit for CWM, basically nothing unusual, I have no idea how it happened. Maybe I should have done Decrap first since I've read others doing such. Thinking back to my first post/thread, I had a boot issue and only had rooted, Titanium, and RevoToolkit, no ROMs yet.
And, don't get me wrong. I'm not placing blame anywhere, just documenting my "progress." There was a time I was on Revolt where it wasn't behaving this way. I am left without a solid conclusion as to the cause.
How to avoid the battery drain?
I had a similar situation, downgraded and then installed Revolt 1.3. Can't say what did it, but the battery got hot and drained so far it would even start charging.
I got the battery charged on the old phone, and the new one, with Revolt 1.3 is working. But I'm not sure how to make sure the overheating/draining problem doesn't occur again. After 10 minutes the phone is starting to get hot again, battery is down to 57%. With the phone on or off, it does not charge the battery, even with an AC wall charger. With the phone on, it indicates 57% charge, with the phone off, the battery icon just sits at red, no charging is happening. I erased the battery stats in ClockworkMod, but is there anything else to do? Any other ideas?
It sounds like Haxid had it happen and he got back to LG stock and unrooted, all good.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1233668
Mine happened again this time totally dead battery. Trying to get some charge in it now to boot and remove cwm so I can take it to verizon.
Decrap 1.0 rom this time w/ CWM
I do not believe it is the rom. It has to be an app or hardware.
Were you having spontaneous reboots? That's when it happened to me, after a spontaneous reboot.
Good luck. Hope it all works out.
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Were you having spontaneous reboots? That's when it happened to me, after a spontaneous reboot.
Good luck. Hope it all works out.
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No my phone is actually super stable it just is sucking battery like its candy. Been off charger only 1 hour right now and its down to 83%. It has to be an app doing it but I have no idea which one. The phone shows 64% battery usage by android system.
When mine was hogging battery, same here. All I saw was Android process.
just to add my 2 cents here. I noticed my phone draining like crazy, I tried everything, then I changed the battery. boom. everything is now stable. I'm going to try to exchange that battery I think its my drain and reboot culprit.
Hi all,
I updated my HTC One (m7) yesterday to Lolli 5.0.2 (OTA). I had my phone 100% charged and plugged.
Everything went perfect. However today I noticed this. I had my phone charge overnight (in airplane mode and no wifi) and in the mornign it was obviously at 100%.
I turned Wifi and Cell Signal on and left for work, when I arrived I noticed somehow higher battery consumption about (level was at bout 80%).
Like always I plugged my phone to the computer via USB (Wifi and Cell on). I check after abotu 2-3 hours and the phone was hot, and status at 50% !
Even though it was USB charging it dropped from 80 to 50. I swiched Wifi off and placed it in airplane mode and it was charging at normal (USB) speed,
of course that is not a solution (having a phone off just to charge it !).
Any ideas. Up until yesterday with 4.4 it was behaving normally (so the battery is ok).
Thx and brgds,
Alex
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Hi all,
I updated my HTC One (m7) yesterday to Lolli 5.0.2 (OTA). I had my phone 100% charged and plugged.
Everything went perfect. However today I noticed this. I had my phone charge overnight (in airplane mode and no wifi) and in the mornign it was obviously at 100%.
I turned Wifi and Cell Signal on and left for work, when I arrived I noticed somehow higher battery consumption about (level was at bout 80%).
Like always I plugged my phone to the computer via USB (Wifi and Cell on). I check after abotu 2-3 hours and the phone was hot, and status at 50% !
Even though it was USB charging it dropped from 80 to 50. I swiched Wifi off and placed it in airplane mode and it was charging at normal (USB) speed,
of course that is not a solution (having a phone off just to charge it !).
Any ideas. Up until yesterday with 4.4 it was behaving normally (so the battery is ok).
Thx and brgds,
Alex
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This question seems to come up every day at the moment, I recommend you use the search function next time, see the replies here for possible fixes.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-one/help/issues-battery-life-t3044542
Thx I will try try that. I actually found that thread but didn't see the last post. I thought it was CM12 specific issue.
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I tried the solution proposed on that thread :
Have you tried a hardware battery recalibration?
The battery calibration starts with the phone completely off. The steps are as follows: Charge the device for at least 10 minutes using the original charging cable in a wall outlet. With the device powered off while still plugged into the wall outlet, press and hold the volume up, volume down and power button for two full minutes. Use three fingers to hold these buttons and do not let go at any time. They will be held in at the same time for this to work. The phone will switch on and off every 15 seconds, After two minutes, you can let go, whilst the screen is on, At this point, the device should boot up and battery/charging logic will be re-calibrated.
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and it improved significantly. Wall socket charging is as it was before. USB a bit slower but within the "normal" limits.
I will probably try it again to see if it improves even more.
Nf13 said:
I tried the solution proposed on that thread :
and it improved significantly. Wall socket charging is as it was before. USB a bit slower but within the "normal" limits.
I will probably try it again to see if it improves even more.
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First time I tried it, I have to admit, I was surprised by the change, I run it every couple of months now.
I charged my battery. Took it off the charger and turned off the screen. When I woke up the phone was off and I dead. I am on cm12.1 fairly recent update. I updated a couple days ago. I just want to know if anyone else had this issue?
Only time thats ever happened to me is when I was camping in the woods. Like it was searching for a signal all night and killed the battery.
I had something similar happen to me over the weekend. I mostly use a Choetech Qi charger, and pulled it off the charger Saturday morning before heading out for a day of motorcycle riding. After the ride...~6hrs later my phone still showed 100% battery. As I was catching up on emails etc..the phone just shut itself down. I rebooted...then it shut down again within 30 secs of use.
While it was still off, a quick press on the power button popped up a battery image showing 0% battery. Within 2 seconds of plugging in a charger...it jumped to 100% again. But the phone would not stay on, unplugged at all. I tried wiping the cache hoping that would clear out the battery monitor, but not luck there. The only that worked was turning the phone off, plugging in the OEM Turbo Charger, and letting it charge over night.
Do you have any app monitoring battery usage like betterbatterystats or gsm battery monitor?
sometime obviously kept your usage on while you slept. not normal. either searching for a signal all night, or a misbehaving app, etc. y
I do not have currently have any 3rd party monitoring app. But it's probably not a bad idea. I just think that something with the wireless charging eventually whacks out the battery calibration. As long as I can "reset" everything with a night on the Turbo charger, I can deal.
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I had something similar happen to me over the weekend. I mostly use a Choetech Qi charger, and pulled it off the charger Saturday morning before heading out for a day of motorcycle riding. After the ride...~6hrs later my phone still showed 100% battery. As I was catching up on emails etc..the phone just shut itself down. I rebooted...then it shut down again within 30 secs of use.
While it was still off, a quick press on the power button popped up a battery image showing 0% battery. Within 2 seconds of plugging in a charger...it jumped to 100% again. But the phone would not stay on, unplugged at all. I tried wiping the cache hoping that would clear out the battery monitor, but not luck there. The only that worked was turning the phone off, plugging in the OEM Turbo Charger, and letting it charge over night.
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Radon,
I'm seeing nearly the same problem, but mine is at 80% not 100%. I tried doing a full charge on a standard (non-Turbo) charger overnight, and it changed things, but still not in an acceptable state. Did you try using a standard charger? Or did you only try the Turbo charger?
Verizon and Motorola are telling me I need to do a factory reset and/or get a new phone, but I'm trying to do my research first.
Clear the app cache (Go to Settings->Storage then click on Cached data and hit OK). Then reboot into recovery to wipe the cache there (note it'll take upwards to half and hour so don't freak out if it looks frozen). Then turn the phone off and leave it on the factory charger overnight (or for a while after it reads 100%) with the phone still off. This clears the cruft to fix misbehaving apps, then calibrates the phones understanding of what a full charge is. You also might want to delete any apps you no longer use, especially ad-ridden games, system hook apps like keyboards, and things that track location or status which might keep the phone awake.
After I shattered my screen on my last turbo and got a replacement I've been having issues with my battery. It would randomly die and wouldn't respond or let me turn it on without connecting to a charging cable. Sometimes it goes from a good charge to 39% and turns itself off but often, like I observed today, when I looked at my battery trend it actually went from 75% to 8% in an instant. Not sure what the cause is. Could the battery be discharging somehow??
Hi guys,
My phone turns off automatically. It actually has happened 4 -5 times in 3 days. Let me explain; Once my phone was just on my table and I picked up but it was off and nothing was happening. I just plugged in my wall charger (Turbo Power), it turned on and the charging showed 53℅ so it came back to life. Today, my phone was on charge and it was almost 70℅ andI had to remove the charger but as soon as I removed it, screen turned off and then I had to put the wall charger again to make it alive.
What could be the issue? I am confused.
Thanks!
Attached is an image of my battery stats for reference. Thanks!
82% wifi battery drain? Do you still have this problem if you keep wifi off? I would perform a factory reset if I were you.
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82% wifi battery drain? Do you still have this problem if you keep wifi off? I would perform a factory reset if I were you.
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Yes, the issue is still there when I keep my WiFi off. Also, i noticed that my phone used to get charge from 5℅ to around 40℅ within 15 or 20 minutes. I did put my phone on charge few hours ago but in one hour it was only 53℅.
I use Turbo Power wall charger and I purchased this phone 2 weeks ago. I'm not sure if doing factory reset would work or not but first I want to make sure there is nothing else wrong with this.
Any thoughts?
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Yes, the issue is still there when I keep my WiFi off. Also, i noticed that my phone used to get charge from 5℅ to around 40℅ within 15 or 20 minutes. I did put my phone on charge few hours ago but in one hour it was only 53℅.
I use Turbo Power wall charger and I purchased this phone 2 weeks ago. I'm not sure if doing factory reset would work or not but first I want to make sure there is nothing else wrong with this.
Any thoughts?
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If a factory reset doesn't fix it, my only other guess is that there is something wrong with the battery. If you purchased it new, it's very easy to get a warranty replacement through Motorola if you live in the USA, but I'm not sure how it would work outside of it.
I just posted in the "Weird Battery" thread. But you need to do a Battery Re-calibration by holding the power button to turn the phone and KEEP holding button until the phone re-boots itself. Ignore the "Power Off" dialog. Then plug in the stock turbo charger overnight. I had this problem a lot while using a wireless charger.
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I just posted in the "Weird Battery" thread. But you need to do a Battery Re-calibration by holding the power button to turn the phone and KEEP holding button until the phone re-boots itself. Ignore the "Power Off" dialog. Then plug in the stock turbo charger overnight. I had this problem a lot while using a wireless charger.
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Thanks for the response and I will definitely try this. However, there is something I noticed: Today I plugged in my Turbo Charger and the phone started charging from 4%. After 45 minutes, it was 22%. I think that means it wasn't turbo charging and as soon as I plugged out the cable from my phone, it turned off and again I had to plug the cable in and it turned on and started charging. I then turned on my phone and the battery was at 22% (charging). After next 30 minutes it was at around 70% and then I tried to pull out the charging cable to see if it turns off again but it didn't.
I am not sure if it's right but I feel like when it doesn't get a turbo charge, it gets turned off when I remove the charging cable from it. But when it actually gets turbo charge, it doesn't turn off and act normally.
This is really confusing, isn't it?
No one?
The most likely problem is that your battery is failing due to age.
Although it appears to maintain a usable voltage, reflected in the battery % displayed, it can no longer provide the current needed to run the phone under high-load conditions. In those cases the voltage drops momentarily below the 0% level, triggering an immediate shutdown.
Try taking the back cover off the phone and seeing if the battery is significantly swollen or bloated. If so, it's time for a replacement. There are good video guides on YouTube detailing the process.
Your device is two years old, and all batteries wear out with enough charge/discharge cycles. If the phone is exposed to high temperatures (such as during turbo charging), the batteries will wear out faster.
Spott07 said:
The most likely problem is that your battery is failing due to age.
Although it appears to maintain a usable voltage, reflected in the battery % displayed, it can no longer provide the current needed to run the phone under high-load conditions. In those cases the voltage drops momentarily below the 0% level, triggering an immediate shutdown.
Try taking the back cover off the phone and seeing if the battery is significantly swollen or bloated. If so, it's time for a replacement. There are good video guides on YouTube detailing the process.
Your device is two years old, and all batteries wear out with enough charge/discharge cycles. If the phone is exposed to high temperatures (such as during turbo charging), the batteries will wear out faster.
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Are you sure it can be a problem of battery? I purchased this phone in start of February and it's new. Also, if it's a battery problem then why does it happen just sometimes? Why not every time i plug in the charger? Also, my battery after full charge give me a handsome backup of 1 and a half day easily even after 81% use of a WiFi.
sh_obaid said:
Are you sure it can be a problem of battery? I purchased this phone in start of February and it's new. Also, if it's a battery problem then why does it happen just sometimes? Why not every time i plug in the charger? Also, my battery after full charge give me a handsome backup of 1 and a half day easily even after 81% use of a WiFi.
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A weak battery is one possibility, but if you're getting a day and a half of usage from a full battery, then it's probably a different problem.
My next guess would be a bad charging cable or damaged USB port. Or possibly a poorly written app that's running in the background and causing memory problems somehow.
What Android version or ROM is on your phone, what background apps are running, and do you have any root programs or system modifications?
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A weak battery is one possibility, but if you're getting a day and a half of usage from a full battery, then it's probably a different problem.
My next guess would be a bad charging cable or damaged USB port. Or possibly a poorly written app that's running in the background and causing memory problems somehow.
What Android version or ROM is on your phone, what background apps are running, and do you have any root programs or system modifications?
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Thanks for the response. My Android version is 6.0.1 and in background I am not sure where to look at but the usual stuff I use are Facebook, Watsapp, MyCafe game (I have already tried uninstalling it to see if it's causing the problem). My device is not rooted and there are no modification. I am using this phone as I got it new. Thanks!
For few days it was working fine. Now, I was facing the same issue again so I tried to do a factory reset. Now when I tried to boot it up for the first time, I was setting up the Google Account, I didn't remember my password so I first changed it using my PC and then tried to sign in on my phone but now it's always saying "please sign in using one of the owners accounts for this device". I tried to google it but all of it ended up giving me a solution that I have to wait 72 hours because there has been some Google Security or something? I don't understand. Please help!
sounds to me like the battery is dying/dead. i would certainly open up an inquiry to motorola to see if they can get you a new battery. doesn't hurt to ask.
jco23 said:
sounds to me like the battery is dying/dead. i would certainly open up an inquiry to motorola to see if they can get you a new battery. doesn't hurt to ask.
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I had to encrypt the device and it's back to life now. But still, the issue is still there. The phone still shuts down automatically as soon as I take off the charger. It's weird that when I don't face this problem, I get day and a half battery backup which is totally normal to me. Do you think it still can be a bad battery problem?
No one?
Are you using custom rom or stock one?
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Are you using custom rom or stock one?
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I am on Stock ROM.
It's never too late
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I am on Stock ROM.
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Hi Sh-Obaid!
Although this is a pretty old post, but I have just faced the same problem with my droid turbo as you were facing exactly a year ago. I am pretty sure that you must have ditched the droid turbo by now, but still I am curious to know if you finally found out the actual problem or some solution. Please share your experience as it can help me to fix my paperweight (almost dyeing turbo).
It keeps turning off during boot-up or android running mode within a few minutes after the charger is removed. But, it can stay 'on' for several hours in recovery mode (due to which I doubt that battery is dyeing) and also shows Good Battery status in the boot-loader mode. I have done factory reset and even re-installation of the stock rom but neither worked for me.
Any input from you would be highly appreciated - Thanks!