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Thought it might be useful for us mobile gamers to post the sort of performance we get on the Nexus 4. Might even make a few of you eager beavers even more excited about getting a Nexus 4 if you haven't already.
Don't know the difference between 30fps and 60fps? Lucky.. try and keep it that way if you can help it.
In short - 60fps is the most ideal framerate; the most lacking in "lag". 30fps is also an ideal framerate, but it isn't as smooth as the former (alot of people don't notice the difference). Most console games run at 30fps, for reference.
So far, the Nexus 4 is capable of playing ALL Android games smoothly, with exception to those that are (temporarily) incompatible with 4.2
Frustrated with the heat & throttling the phone endures when playing some big games?
Try Matr1x Kernel to minimise heat with a small undervolt, and get more performance from a GPU overclock
After some testing, here's a little idea of how some games run on the device. I also briefly tested a few with different processor speeds too so I'll note down my findings there too.
*if you haven't played with your CPU frequencies then don't worry about my babbling about CPU speeds - the game will run fine if stated so and won't change if you haven't messed about with processor power saving*
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Max Payne Mobile - 60fps:
Seems to be a trusty 60fps on highest settings; brilliant graphics for a phone. I don't recall it ever slowing in performance at all on Roscoe Street station (first level after the prelude) or the tutorial level. Runs and looks much better than GTA3.
Minecraft Pocket Edition - 60fps:
60fps solid on Fancy graphics; doesn't seem to heat up the phone too much either which implies it isn't too demanding and thus should stretch the battery a bit longer. I could be wrong in that assumption, though.
Grand Theft Auto 3 - 25-30fps:
Somewhat disappointing performance. Runs acceptably smooth on default graphics settings (medium everything) at around 30fps, though with some drops in framerate. Also heats up the phone considerably, so expect throttling after 10 minutes. On highest possible graphics settings it stutters quite alot; I'd estimate it hovers around 15-25fps but it's really not pleasant.
Bus Parking 3D - 60fps:
Smooth as can be.
Temple Run - 60fps:
Yep, smooth and responsive as can be again. Still playable down to around CPU @584mhz, but will introduce a bit of stuttering ofc.
GnarBike Trials (free and pro) - 60fps:
Solid 60fps, but will still hiccup a tiny bit when a large number of explosion barrels are set off. You can disable these in the options if it really bothers you.
X-Plane - 60fps:
You guessed it - completely flawless performance again.
Dead Trigger - 30fps:
Capped at a solid 30fps if I remember right. Never drops below this on max settings; completely smooth.
Contract Killer 2 - 50-60fps:
Seemed more than playable. Didn't have it installed for long though so that's all I can say; around 50-60fps if memory serves me right.
Survivalcraft Demo - 50-60fps:
Was a little bit stuttery on highest settings, but only when walking around. This was probably just because the map was still generating around me as I explored, so should be nothing to worry about.
Asphalt 7: Heat - 30fps:
Slight stutter in cutscenes at the start of each race, but it looks like this game is capped at 30fps (difficult to be sure but it seems that way by my judgement). Stays completely smooth at that framerate throughout the game though.
Riptide: GP - 60fps:
Solid 60fps, very smooth and very pleasing graphics.
Chaos Rings - 30fps
d u o XIV: "I just checked Chaos Rings on my N4 right now. Works like a charm. Just to be clear, I started up the game, danced around the menus for a bit, ran around as the main character, and fought in one battle. It all worked flawlessly, and it all seemed to work at 30FPS."
Final Fantasy III - 60 fps
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Chrono Trigger - smooth as butter
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Theme Park - 60fps
Trial Xtreme 2 - 60fps
Need for Speed Most Wanted - smooth:
Need to test again, the consensus is that it does run smoothly.
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Gameboid Emulator - 60fps:
Runs Pokemon Emerald and Fire Red as if you were playing it on a real GBA. No frame skipping whatsoever at a lovely 60fps.
GBCoid Emulator - 30fps?:
Runs games as they were intended. Not sure if the older Gameboy games ran at 60fps, it looks more like 30fps. Still, that's how it's meant to perform so no problems here.
Hill Climb Racing - 60fps:
Completely smooth at all times. No change in performance whatsoever, even on lowest 384mhz power saver CPU setting.
Osmos HD - 60fps:
Great looking 2D game and runs at a solid 60fps. No problems with lag here as you'd expect.
Doodle Jump - 60fps:
Smooth as butter. Clocking the CPU below 584mhz will cause a little stutter every now and then but still playable.
Bad Piggies HD - 60fps:
I noticed an occasional stutter here and there but it's nothing to lose hair about, it seemed to only happen at the start or end of each level. Otherwise, completely smooth.
Cut The Rope - 60fps
Angry Birds - 60fps
ChuChu Rocket - 60fps
[I think it'd be a challenge to find a 2D game that does lag on this phone to be honest, so i'll leave it at that]
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If you guys have any requests for games to test then I'd be happy to give it a go for you, provided I can acquire them. Feel free to share your experiences with any games here as well.
Cool man. This is the first device with which I've felt confident to pay for games. I hope GTA Vice City is better than GTA 3. Also I hope crazy coaster comes to Android:
https://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/coaster-crazy/id561451269?mt=8
Can You try Wild Blood and NFS Most Wanted?
What about need for speed most wanted?
I tried playing Max Payne, my phone got hot as hell.
Does your phone gets hot too when you play?
I heard and read that the specs of Nexus 4 can handle xbox 360 level gameplay/graphics. I wonder when hardware will be utilized to max i cant wait to shift from xbox to just mobile. Because the CD-ROM system is hell frustrating.
Can you anybody test if Horn works?
How abt asphalt 7 heat? It is extremely laggy on Gnexus..
Unfortunately, Need for Speed: Most Wanted didn't work right. The graphics were glitched up and everything looked black (atleast, when I tested it), so this game may need an update to be playable on the Nexus 4. Whether or not this has been fixed yet needs to be clarified by current owners of the game since I *only just* managed to get a refund in 15 minutes after trying it a few days ago.
I'm downloading all 1.5gb's of Asphalt 7: Heat at the moment so I'll post up when I've finished downloading and testing it in an hour or two. As for Wild Blood and Horn, I'll try them some other time since they're pretty expensive for something I probably won't play.
@AntonJart: Yeah, my phone gets very hot in some games. The phone throttles itself when it gets to around 38C I think, so it shouldn't be anything to worry about. However, you can use CPU apps to underclock the processor and reduce the amount of heat being generated, sometimes with no loss in performance. But that's effort.
Need for speed works for me
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Most wanted works fine for me
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Horn does not work with the Nexus 4 I tried installing it and play on got when I first received the phone
In that case I'll redownload Most Wanted at some point and try it again.
Asphalt 7: Heat - 30fps:
Slight stutter in cutscenes at the start of each race, but it looks like this game is capped at 30fps (difficult to be sure but it seems that way by my judgement). Stays completely smooth at that framerate throughout the game though.
Has anyone tried batman or the latest mass effect?
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I just thought of Rip tide too. Very graphics intensive.
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I made a gaming performance video if anyone is interested - http://youtu.be/Vha62lcGSgs
Games included are
-Nova 3
-NFS:most wanted
-Temple run
-Spider man
-Dead trigger
-GTA
italia0101 said:
I made a gaming performance video if anyone is interested - http://youtu.be/Vha62lcGSgs
Games included are
-Nova 3
-NFS:most wanted
-Temple run
-Spider man
-Dead trigger
-GTA
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Does everyone experiencing overheating? My phone gets hot as hell...
AntonJart said:
Does everyone experiencing overheating? My phone gets hot as hell...
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That doesn't mean its overheating.
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That doesn't mean its overheating.
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To the point that you can cook an egg on it?
Mine gets warm, no where near hot as hell though
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To the point that you can cook an egg on it?
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Then you never owned a one X, early software builds made the phone temp actually too hot to even touch.
But still, it only overheated twice and when running go benchmark constantly.
Later, they fixed the heat dramatically.
But the word 'overheating' is one that gets used incorrectly too much, it probably isnt, its just hot.
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That doesn't mean its overheating.
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Really
even LG OG have same problem : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1995107
One potential issue for long-term use revolves around overheating. I thought it may one specific model, but both units tested had significant drops in benchmark performance after extended use and, more importantly, after getting extremely hot. I cooled the phones down and retested, and after a brief warm-up period they were back to benchmark-breaking numbers. It’s unclear as of yet whether that means thermal throttling is in place or if the phone just cannot dissipate heat well enough for the new CPU and GPU, but one thing is certain: performance drops significantly, from way over competition from phones like the HTC One X or Samsung Galaxy S III, to just under them both.
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http://www.gadgetreview.com/2012/10/lg-optimus-g-first-impressions.html
http://iphone.appleinsider.com/arti...r-graphics-performance-vs-apple-iphone-6-plus
I have see a Note 4 running GTA on YouTube,, and it was lagging badly..
Yes gpu delivers lower performance than iphone 6 but its not poor .both gpus have same power but 2k lowers note 4 performance but its still more powerful than ipad air which has lower res.
And the video u saw on youtube is quallcom version of note 4 and adreno gpu s always lagged on gta games on high setting due to lack of optimzation.
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http://iphone.appleinsider.com/arti...r-graphics-performance-vs-apple-iphone-6-plus
I have see a Note 4 running GTA on YouTube,, and it was lagging badly..
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So because it doesn't do well in one benchmark the GPU is somehow worthless? :silly: According to apple insider apparently the Geforce GTX 660TI is faster than an AMD 290X. That's some quality reporting right there.
Well I'm no expert but look up GTA Note 4 on YouTube, looks terribly laggy.
I'm hoping to get a Note 4 - but not if it can't perform..
Outside of that being Apple dedicated website, running just one benchmark and writing nonsense (they start writing about Note 4, then post preliminary??? cost analysis of GS 4???? from 1.5 yr ago, WTF) I'm not sure if it's propaganda or somebody overdose on something or maybe forgot his medication
I think both.
Not optimized. Performance WILL be fine on other games. Don't worry.
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Well I'm no expert but look up GTA Note 4 on YouTube, looks terribly laggy.
I'm hoping to get a Note 4 - but not if it can't perform..
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It's not lag. The camera just has a really low fps. Look at his other videos and even his hand moving looks like it "lags". It's just the camera don't worry.
You will be able to play most games, just not at the maximum settings, these tests are much more intensive than the mobile games, to the people talking about the screen resolution, there is also an offscreen test which doesn't care about the resolution and the scores are still lower.
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You will be able to play most games, just not at the maximum settings, these tests are much more intensive than the mobile games, to the people talking about the screen resolution, there is also an offscreen test which doesn't care about the resolution and the scores are still lower.
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offscreen tests care about res just not screen res. all offscreen tests done in 1080p and a8 gpu and note 4 gets around 17 fps on offscreen tests. and both higher than my ipad air and i can play everything at full without a stutter i dont think there will be any problem.
Oh no.. a poorly optimized game isn't as fast as it is on an iPhone. Oh jeez it MUST perform awful.. right?
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Oh, cmon guys, little reality check: Note 4 is one of, if not the fastest phone on the market ATM. If it can not play the games properly, nothing else can. In most benchmarks Exynos is as fast or faster than Snapdragon. There is something about this particular benchmark that makes Exynos run poorly, that's why it was picked for this article. And how come no Note4 Snapdragon version? Maybe because Snapdragon doesn't have the issue? The most opinionated bunch of crap I read in a long while.
For those of you that already have your handsets, how has your experience been with the performance of 3D games and more intensive emulators? Have there been any games that have shown noticeable choppiness or sluggishness?
Edit: I read in another thread that Real Racing is giving Snapdragon owners problems. Also - I'm a bit curious as to how PPSSPP is treating people.
I have no issues running epsxe with open gl and all setting at maximum. Playing ff9 atm. Emulators shouldn't be an issue.
I just play Asphalt 8 on my Note 4 Exynos and it gets around 60fps at max settings.
I try few 3D games in my Exynos N910C include Real Racing 3 and Death Trigger 2. So far so great. No issue.
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I just play Asphalt 8 on my Note 4 Exynos and it gets around 60fps at max settings.
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Could you post gamebench prints of the performance on some games?
Another gamebench video (exynos)
My device is finally here and it performs great (Exynos - C version)! But it gets warm (just warm no hot) fast and the throttle is very strong!! My Antutu after playing minion rush for 10 minutes was 35k and after a lot of gaming my GFX T-rex on-screen was 8 and off screen was 16. With the phone unused I got 25 and 37 fps for each of them. It is hot here (28C = 82F) but this throttle is too powerful! I'd rather have the phone getting hotter with better performance. Don't know if that would be possible.
The Galaxy Note 4 has a terrible 3d performance, i imagine it is because it is rendering at 1440, my HTC One M7 did far better at 1080. A few games that are jittery messes are anything GTA and also Gangstar, not impressed at all. Perhaps somebody will hack it so that it renders at a lower resolution, because really the snapdragon 805 is not up to intense 3d games at native resolution.
I have better gaming experience in Asphalt 8 with the Note 4 Exynos+1440p than with my Note 3 Qualcomm+1080p.
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I have better gaming experience in Asphalt 8 with the Note 4 Exynos+1440p than with my Note 3 Qualcomm+1080p.
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Yes same for me too. I really impressed with exynos gaming performance asphalt 8 is just 60 fps all the time it was like 30 or something on my quallcom note 3
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Yes same for me too. I really impressed with exynos gaming performance asphalt 8 is just 60 fps all the time it was like 30 or something on my quallcom note 3
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Yeah, It surprised me. I would like to see some Gamebench of a Qualcomm Note 4.
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The Galaxy Note 4 has a terrible 3d performance, i imagine it is because it is rendering at 1440, my HTC One M7 did far better at 1080. A few games that are jittery messes are anything GTA and also Gangstar, not impressed at all. Perhaps somebody will hack it so that it renders at a lower resolution, because really the snapdragon 805 is not up to intense 3d games at native resolution.
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I'm using NOMone Resolution Changer to set display to 1080p to play games. When you change the resolution everything looks wrong (big icons and etc) but the games are actually perfect but less pixels to push so better performance. If you are rooted and mind gaming performance, this is a must have.
Just curious - since this is the one thing that might make me change my mind about not rooting my phone - Does NOMone Resolution Changer know to automatically change the resolution only when a game is specifically opened? Or do you need to change the resolution first - and then start the game?
For the guy saying that GTA is stuttery.. its nothing to do with the resolution. Its all to do with heat and the Samsung DVFS voltage and frequency control.
With DVFS enabled after a few mins of GTA it slows down a little bit and starts to get stuttery because it throttles too easy and underclocks the CPU and GPU by about half.
If your rooted and disable DVFS you get the full GPU and CPU speed in games like GTA vice city and its extremely fluid.
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Just curious - since this is the one thing that might make me change my mind about not rooting my phone - Does NOMone Resolution Changer know to automatically change the resolution only when a game is specifically opened? Or do you need to change the resolution first - and then start the game?
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Second option unfortunately. If you find an application that does that, please tell me. I didn't look for it though as NOMone is working great and I'm a bit afraid of messing with the resolution too much.
Just got myself an exynos note 4. Very nice phone but aside from a little touchwiz stutter, games such as real racing 3 and clash of clans stutter. My nexus 4 ran them fine. Did a quick antutu benchmark to see whats up and this is what i got without flight mode on. What do you think? Benchmarks say my phone should handle them with ease but thats not the case. Anyone with a solution?
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djunited said:
Just got myself an exynos note 4. Very nice phone but aside from a little touchwiz stutter, games such as real racing 3 and clash of clans stutter. My nexus 4 ran them fine. Did a quick antutu benchmark to see whats up and this is what i got without flight mode on. What do you think? Benchmarks say my phone should handle them with ease but thats not the case. Anyone with a solution?
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Mine can just run them fine. Try a factory reset.
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Mine can just run them fine. Try a factory reset.
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Factory reset on a brand new phone that just got set up?
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Probably some rogue app you got running. Reset like he said or restart. No stutter on this old games so no fix required. Emulators have been good tho getting over 30fps in a few n64 games mupen64 that have tried, dolphin still not the best speed. DraStic was made for the note line. Runs awesome with each game I have.
Has to be coc related. I read a few reviews on the play store from note 4 users who have seen this as well. Much more demanding games are running great so ill just wait on an update.
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In some games i get lag spike like gta san anders play on medium seatings and rawensword 2 i use game tuner but not help . how to increase performance for gaming maybe custom kernel or overcloking if its possible for it or some kind programs I'm new in android staff.
If the graphics on the 815 don't work for you then surely don't replace it with an 813/819. The GPU is supposed to be better on the one you have.
I don't think these are gaming tablets really. I don't know any that are but that's not my thing. They do have more RAM and better screens than most other tablets.
any other option ?
Maybe Apple is better for gaming? I really don't know. Hopefully a clueful individual will answer you. I am too new to the whole tablet world to know much.
i find gltools maybe its improve performance i see a lot of video of it . but its need root access? who have experience from it ?
I guess you could change the thread title and perhaps get more help.
bump any suggestion? i need to improve performance for some games not to much a bit game now rawensword runs 20 fps sometime drops to 15 in fights :/ i like to boost to 30 fps any suggestion i try different programs but no luck :/
The issue is simple. The Exynos version throttles like mad with continuous high usage (games and video SW rendering). And you can do nothing about it. From what I read, the snapdragon version doesn't throttle as bad/at all. I recommend switching to android 6 if you haven't done that already, as it increases the performance by a little bit, as well as setting the resolution in those heavier game to 50% and force capping the frame rate to 30.
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The issue is simple. The Exynos version throttles like mad with continuous high usage (games and video SW rendering). And you can do nothing about it. From what I read, the snapdragon version doesn't throttle as bad/at all. I recommend switching to android 6 if you haven't done that already, as it increases the performance by a little bit, as well as setting the resolution in those heavier game to 50% and force capping the frame rate to 30.
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I've had the exact opposite experience.
The snapdragon version lags with many games while the exynos version played all these games smoothly...
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It's certainly peculiar. I couldn't play Asphalt 8 for too long without setting the resolution all the way down to 50%(1024x768). At 1080p it'd start lagging really bad on me in about 3-4 minutes at best. That doesn't mean it doesn't have an adequate overall performance, it's flying, but anything as heavy as asphalt or worse would bring it to its knees.
strange in asphalt 8 i have no lag run rely smoothly only san andres and rawensword run not what great san andres 25~28 medium graphic rawensword 22 in fight with max distance other setting cant change.
For 5.1 I was using optimal rom found in development section. He also made a kernel you could over clock with synapse support found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/tab-s2/development/nn-kernel-lp-t701-t3309570.com With synapse you can force the gpu to over clock along with cpu. Download synapse from market. In setting developer options turn off hardware overlays ticking that on will use the gpu for rendering. Off (default) cpu. At least that is my understanding. Some games work better with it on others off. Minecraft on I got 60fps at 2nd highest view distance using customers textures. Yet terraria would stutter on certain conditions but never a problem with it turned off. Warning though it will make your device hot where the cpu is. I've got no idea how well you're games will play as I have never played them. I did get a noticeable difference from stock vs the above. So maybe it's an option worth trying.
Hm thx for advise but i read all posts but i don't see anything say it's for 6.0 marshmallow and my it's sm-t815 lite version i only see 810? Maybe its work for my device ?
Might be too different. Not sure.
http://www.devicespecifications.com/en/comparison/676f391aa
You have mobile data and I just have WiFi. Everything else seemed the same.
On my xoom it was from Verizon I flashed WiFi only rom and kernels. Lost mobile data but all was fine. As long as the kernal matched the rom. Worse case recover backup or Odin MM back on it. Just use the kernel with a 5.1 810 rom plus whatever you need to root it. I used that kernel with a few different romps but never cm since that's liable to be experimental still on my death bed. So it felt compatible with any 810 rom. If I was you and didn't mind losing cellular data I would treat it as an 810. Maybe do a bit more research and make sure they really are similar.
its same i see ok but one question if i flash this kernel how much i can improve performance like gta san andres can i play max at normal frame rate become on max now i have 17~21 fps i ask it become i was thinking its wort or not don't want to lose warranty
If you don't want to lose warranty then stock it is. That's my advise. I highly doubt you would break it but still if you dropped it in get it. You want that available. I've seen root options that don't trip Knox but I didn't care to research because I didn't have a warranty. I knew using ct auto root would void warrenty (method I used) before doing it. Search for different rooting options to 810.
I get not wanting to void warranty but if you're over clocking it, rooting, accept it as a trade off. You replied before I edited my last post so maybe reread. They are slightly different.
um when how about performance in gaming ? there i mention it i read it make 2.0ghz for 4 core and for others 1.5 or 1.6 it make huge boost in game or just small i rely care about it. ?
That sounds right. And the gpu goes up to 700hz. I think stock is 600. I don't play the games you are so can't say for sure performance but it was noticeable for me. I set both cpu min 1,000 max whatever max it allowed like you mentioned. So if it needed cpu it was there. Gpu I did max because there is a noticeable difference going from 600 to 650 to 700. Put the min as the max. Then toggle on turn off hardware overlays. Other games preferred the opposite. Max cpu for both and min close to max, whatever for gpu and no toggle for turn off hardware overlays.
Don't do max cpu and max Gpu. To much heat without any improvement. Pick one or the other as max, other one able to if needed. Here is what I ended up with.
Mine craft liked the first option. Not sure what it was playing at before over clocking. Maybe 30-40 fps while flying in creative mode. Got up to 60 fps no stuttering unless I was at a huge super dense forest biome where you couldn't see the ground. Probably used 25% per hour. I know mine craft doesn't sound like much but I had fancy on (transparent leaves), 128bit textures, 2nd highest view (it was far), and flying really fast in creative. Even bought a controller because of it. Though it actualy plays and feels better without. To wierd.
Terraria preferred all cpu so second option. Again you think but it's 2d. It isn't optimized by any means. Even on pc that game uses more then one would believe. I played at 60 fps with no slowdowns on second option. Without over clock it would stutter fairly easily vs completly smooth. It felt like whoever programed the cpu made sure they never gave enough power at any given time as a cruel joke. With synapse I could set the min as max and over clock it.
All I can say in the end it is noticable. It was enough to get 60fps. For a 2d game, it wasn't worth playing unless it was so. Download terraria dig a bit underground, get some lighting going and some enemies. Notice the wonderful stutter and ask why, it's 2d. Then you can decide if that vs 60 fps is worth the void warrenty and possibly broken device achieving it.
can y try gta san andres on max with overclock your system ? i'm rely curios
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Hello
I have upgraded my Tab S7 to Tab S8. And I have expected new device be much faster and smoother, but what I found that games are really lagging! It was perfectly smooth on S7 but not on S8. Game mode does not help much. I do not play a log of games on this tablet as I used it mostly for developement, but I do play Harry Potter Puzzle and Spells and this game lags pretty bad on S8.
What can be done to fix it or should I wait for Samsung to release update? I do know about Samsung's throttling on S8 devices but I never expect it to be that bad.
And in addition (don't want to open another thread) it seems that S8 has more aggressive memory settings because it unloads apps from memory over time. Which never happened on S7. S8 has more memory and I think it should keep more opened apps, not reloading them. And yes, settings in developer section (do not keep activities) is not enabled
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And in addition (don't want to open another thread) it seems that S8 has more aggressive memory settings because it unloads apps from memory over time. Which never happened on S7. S8 has more memory and I think it should keep more opened apps, not reloading them. And yes, settings in developer section (do not keep activities) is not enabled
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This has to do to android 12, s7 was only on android 11, but also is on 12 now. So then it automatically puts apps into deep sleep. You can remove that under battery settings area and remove apps from deep sleep mode.
About lagging it might be new game mode from samsung since apparently samsung did on purpose limit hardware but added a settings into app that let's you gain more performance in games. Should be in game engine or w.e name is and then settings and then Labs and enable experimental feature there that should boost performance and stop limit the hardware for game.
When I replaces S7 it was already on Android 12 but I never observed such behavior. Anyway, I have put game into never sleep list. As about lags, unfortunately I found no options for that
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I have upgraded my Tab S7 to Tab S8. And I have expected new device be much faster and smoother, but what I found that games are really lagging! It was perfectly smooth on S7 but not on S8. Game mode does not help much. I do not play a log of games on this tablet as I used it mostly for developement, but I do play Harry Potter Puzzle and Spells and this game lags pretty bad on S8.
What can be done to fix it or should I wait for Samsung to release update? I do know about Samsung's throttling on S8 devices but I never expect it to be that bad.
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I was noticing this particular with emulation since I don't play many native android games. When playing Sonic Colors at native res on my Tab S7+, it would almost never go below 30fps in level, and almost never below 60fps in the hub and menus. However, when I tried doing the same on the S8+, I had a bunch of stuttering and performance issues no matter what version of dolphin I used. There was a workaround to this (at least for me). These issues only happened when I restored my data to my new S8+ with Smart Switch, but when I just put all my data and stuff on there manually, the issues seemingly stopped happening. The only game I throttle in is Fortnite, which didn't have the 90fps option even though the S7+ did. The game still didn't feel much different before and after the throttle, still pretty consistent framerates overall.
Edit: Just fixing typos.
SavXL said:
I was noticing this particular with emulation since I don't play many native android games. When playing Sonic Colors at native res on my Tab S7+, it would almost never go below 30fps in level, and almost never below 60fps in the hub and menus. However, when I tried doing the same on the S8+, and I had a bunch of stuttering and performance issues no matter what version of dolphin I used. There was a workaround to this (at least for me). These issues only happened when I restored my data to my new S8+ with Smart Switch, but when I just put all my data and stuff on there manually, the issues seemingly stopped happening. The only game I throttle in is Fortnite, which didn't have the 90fps option even though the S7+ did. The game still didn't feel much different before and after the throttle, still pretty consistent framerates overall.
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Did you used cloud backup or restored through cable or it's the same thing? I have similar problem, but with benchmark results. My device can't get even average model score in 3DMark (about 2 to 8%). Geekbench scores are worse than snapdragon 865 devices. I don't know what's going on. I already tried to reflash stock rom with odin, but that didn't help. Hopefully not using cloud backup will help.
HPLazerJetPrinter1012 said:
Did you used cloud backup or restored through cable or it's the same thing? I have similar problem, but with benchmark results. My device can't get even average model score in 3DMark (about 2 to 8%). Geekbench scores are worse than snapdragon 865 devices. I don't know what's going on. I already tried to reflash stock rom with odin, but that didn't help. Hopefully not using cloud backup will help.
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I initially restored with a cable, but once I started getting shawty performance, I made a backup on my sd card and restored it from there with Smart Switch. I never used cloud backup since that takes a lot of time for me. After getting suboptimal results with both, I just bit the bullet and slowly started adding everything and getting it to how it was on my old devices. Only then did I get getting substatiall better results. Now I can run a lot of Wii/GC/3DS/PS2 games at 1.5x, 2x, and sometimes even 3x without getting throttled. Not sure why using smart switch tanked my performance, but all I know is that it's not tanking now.
Thats interesting. Because I also moved data using cable. I do not know how good is cloud since I never did it before (only on Apple devices).
I might try to fully format tablet and test it again.
Will provide more information later
Ray Adams said:
Thats interesting. Because I also moved data using cable. I do not know how good is cloud since I never did it before (only on Apple devices).
I might try to fully format tablet and test it again.
Will provide more information later
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I tried formatting few days ago, and that didn't help. At least for me this problem is not related to Smart Switch. Do you also have bad benchmark scores? I understand that benchmarks are not very good indicator of performance (especially due to GOS), but I expect to have at least average SD8gen1 performance, not the level of SD855.
Did reset to factory settings. It is much better at least for now. Benchmark - tested only Geekbench 5. Result the same
Hi.. I'm experiencing the same problem here.. any updates regarding this problem? My geekbench score can't even surpass an exynos 2100.. it only achieve around 700ish on single core.. the first time I notice this is when I tried playing granturismo with aethersx2.. and it can't even handle the 1x reso.. hhhh.. really frustrated here.. please kindly share any clues regarding this topic thanks in advance.. sorry not a native English speaker
I had same problem, but, i solved using this:
ADB AppControl 1.7.5
(disable all game service (i'm not remember how many)). For me it's work great
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i disabled bixdy and others apps too
First.. thank you for the answer! Might try it out later..
So it's like disabling the "GOS" right? Is it different from the "alternate game performance" option in game booster? They said it's the "official" way to disable the GOS.. but yeah I didn't find any difference after enabling that option though... Hmm..
Hmm...also.. What makes me wonder is.. I saw some reviewers review this device without any tweaking needed and they could achieve a 8gen1'ish results in benchmarks.. and also if you know ETA prime on YouTube.. he reviewed a tab s8 ultra and is able to run a granturismo 4 with aethersx2 (ps2 emulator) in 3x reso in default settings with no problems... I know it's a different device but it's supposed to have a same Chip right?
All of this things makes me frustrated because it was not what i expected from a 8gen1 device.. moreover I saw a sd870 device could run the granturismo 4 in the same settings with no problems.. it really broke my heart..
The issue mainly lies in the SOC.
Even though, SD8 Gen 1 has a much higher peak performance, especially in GPU, it can't sustain that performance due to excesive power consumption which results in thermal throttling.
GOS is another thing that affects the whole experience, it's limiting the performance of the device.
ekin_strops said:
The issue mainly lies in the SOC.
Even though, SD8 Gen 1 has a much higher peak performance, especially in GPU, it can't sustain that performance due to excesive power consumption which results in thermal throttling.
GOS is another thing that affects the whole experience, it's limiting the performance of the device.
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Yeah.. I think this is mainly what cause the problem.. The 8gen1 itself..
a quick update regarding this from me..
I've done some re-test in benchmark and real game perfomance but this time im doing it in a well conditioned (cooled) room..
previously I was doing the test and gaming and in a room without any Air Conditioner and I lived in a tropical country which is really hot and humid...
the benchmark results (3d wildlife) came out Nice in a well cooled room, It scores what most of Tab S8 would score and the real life perfomance (PS2 emulator) is also improved..
it manages to handle GranTurismo 4 in aethersx2 with 3x reso on safe setting quite well..
the CPU temperature is well managed in around 35'ish Celcius compared to 45'ish when not using any air conditioner...
Bege21 said:
Yeah.. I think this is mainly what cause the problem.. The 8gen1 itself..
a quick update regarding this from me..
I've done some re-test in benchmark and real game perfomance but this time im doing it in a well conditioned (cooled) room..
previously I was doing the test and gaming and in a room without any Air Conditioner and I lived in a tropical country which is really hot and humid...
the benchmark results (3d wildlife) came out Nice in a well cooled room, It scores what most of Tab S8 would score and the real life perfomance (PS2 emulator) is also improved..
it manages to handle GranTurismo 4 in aethersx2 with 3x reso on safe setting quite well..
the CPU temperature is well managed in around 35'ish Celcius compared to 45'ish when not using any air conditioner...
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CPU temperature 35 Celsius degrees? Are you talking about an ABSOLUTE idle? Because even if you would put a bag of ice on the TAB it wouldn't sit that low under usage. Even small loads will put the CPU around 50-60 Celsius degrees. Under heavy load up to 85-90 till the thermal throttle hits in.
Also, that ONE wildlife mark test doesn't do much. The idea is stability, better known as SUSTAINED performance, and that's where SD8 Gen 1 ****s itself. Try running a Wildlife standard stress test (20-minute loop) and post the screenshot, you'll see what I mean.
ekin_strops said:
CPU temperature 35 Celsius degrees? Are you talking about an ABSOLUTE idle? Because even if you would put a bag of ice on the TAB it wouldn't sit that low under usage. Even small loads will put the CPU around 50-60 Celsius degrees. Under heavy load up to 85-90 till the thermal throttle hits in.
Also, that ONE wildlife mark test doesn't do much. The idea is stability, better known as SUSTAINED performance, and that's where SD8 Gen 1 ****s itself. Try running a Wildlife standard stress test (20-minute loop) and post the screenshot, you'll see what I mean.
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I only saw the perf-z indicator from samsung though.. so yeah.. i know i might just straight up wrong about this I just straight saying what I saw.. and honestly I'm not an expert in this.. just a mere consumer..
Yeah I got you.. it goes downhill even after the first one.. what I'm trying to say was that I never reach that score before in warm room so yeah it's mainly the CPU problem..
What mainly being my concern before was I'm scared that I got scammed with a fake/unoriginal/refurbished tab s8.....
Harry Potter plays fluently on Tab S8 Plus here.
I have sent my S8 to my mom and bought S8 plus. Did not restore, set it up from scratch. No lagging in games, including HP. So, it could be related to thermal soliton in S8 plus as it is bigger
Bege21 said:
First.. thank you for the answer! Might try it out later..
So it's like disabling the "GOS" right? Is it different from the "alternate game performance" option in game booster? They said it's the "official" way to disable the GOS.. but yeah I didn't find any difference after enabling that option though... Hmm..
Hmm...also.. What makes me wonder is.. I saw some reviewers review this device without any tweaking needed and they could achieve a 8gen1'ish results in benchmarks.. and also if you know ETA prime on YouTube.. he reviewed a tab s8 ultra and is able to run a granturismo 4 with aethersx2 (ps2 emulator) in 3x reso in default settings with no problems... I know it's a different device but it's supposed to have a same Chip right?
All of this things makes me frustrated because it was not what i expected from a 8gen1 device.. moreover I saw a sd870 device could run the granturismo 4 in the same settings with no problems.. it really broke my heart..
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Yes you have to run 4 adb Commands that also disables game booster and game launcher then GOS will stay disabled even after restart. I've done this and turn ram plus off. I also disabled or put into deep sleep all of the bs apps. I also went to advance features and turned off all of everything causes I don't use the s-pen so no need for air actions and stuff to be on. If you want the ADB commands let me know.