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Bell Users: Tethering Charge?

Just wanted an update. One user said he was charged for tethering however that has never happened with me before, but I haven't tether in awhile. I have never been charged before.
Is anyone regularly tethering, and have you done it lately?
Please let me know as I'm going on a trip soon and being able to tether would be helpful, thanks!.

it is a risk
I tethered many many times over the course of about a full year, so I was shocked to see my tethering charge when it appeared. I had already tethered after that, before getting my bill for the month. I was only charged for it once, in one specific session. Don't think I did anything different. So, even if someone tells you they have never been charged, keep in mind that until it happened to me after a year, I would have told you don't worry about it. Now I NEVER EVER risk tethering.
The risk of being charged may be very small, but the charge you incur could be huge!
You can buy a 500MB monthly data plan for $25. I was charged 100 times that much for 1/3 the data!!!!
mfpreach said:
Just wanted an update. One user said he was charged for tethering however that has never happened with me before, but I haven't tether in awhile. I have never been charged before.
Is anyone regularly tethering, and have you done it lately?
Please let me know as I'm going on a trip soon and being able to tether would be helpful, thanks!.
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Thanks for the update.

When you have the Vogue connected and charging off a usb on a pc, it it automatically tethered when using Android?
I know that on WM, you actually specify that the phone will be used as a modem.
I downloaded some free apps on the Android market, so I hope I won't get dinged........

And what if you have unlimited data?

My package includes Unlimited mobile browsing. Does that change when I go from WM to Android?

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My package includes Unlimited mobile browsing. Does that change when I go from WM to Android?
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Nope I have that unlimited mobile browsing from bell and it works fine with android no additional costs (not sure about tethering I did it awhile ago and it was ok but have not done it lately)

Whew! Thanks for the quick reply. I was downloading some apps from the android store for the past 2 days, and I was playing around with the google map voice nav. All of a sudden, it occurred to me that I might get charged for this!

does anyone still tether with there vogue?
is it still undetectable? i know i used to tether with NFSFANS ROM and had no real problems
is there anything with android that could even report tethering?
i remember NFSFAN had to remove stuff from WM so bell couldnt detect it
also if tethering still good is pdanet a decent choice to do it with?
thanks

dude4 said:
does anyone still tether with there vogue?
is it still undetectable? i know i used to tether with NFSFANS ROM and had no real problems
is there anything with android that could even report tethering?
i remember NFSFAN had to remove stuff from WM so bell couldnt detect it
also if tethering still good is pdanet a decent choice to do it with?
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The thing about PDAnet(the software component that's part of NFSFAN ROM) was that it was designed to mimic browsing through the phone even if you were actually tethering. That's why the providers can't charge you for tethering since bill you for tethering if all the data incurred was through your phone's browser.
The problem here with Android ROMs is no one has come forward to claim there is a PDAnet equivalent software available. If there isn't one then you have to assume that the providers can catch you when you try to tether. Don't take the risk until there's an official way of hiding tethering activity.

You can use PDAnet for Android...it works fine.

I've been tethering using the stock wireless tether app that's in most Android ROMS. No charges... yet.

No problems
I use Pay as you Go for my vogue, with $10/month unlimited browsing.
This only applies to CDMA devices.
I have tethered a lot with no charges yet.
I use about 500 meg - 1 gig per month on my phone. (streaming radio)
So for $120/year I have unlimited use of my Vogue Android anywhere and can tether my laptop on the road.

dude4 said:
does anyone still tether with there vogue?
is it still undetectable? i know i used to tether with NFSFANS ROM and had no real problems
is there anything with android that could even report tethering?
i remember NFSFAN had to remove stuff from WM so bell couldnt detect it
also if tethering still good is pdanet a decent choice to do it with?
thanks
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This is pretty much why I am still using NFSFAN's rom. Tethering with the unlimited browser plan is key for me, and NFSFAN went through the trouble to encrypt the data. I was hoping after all these years, the same could be said about Android.
nbrennan said:
I use Pay as you Go for my vogue, with $10/month unlimited browsing.
This only applies to CDMA devices.
I have tethered a lot with no charges yet.
I use about 500 meg - 1 gig per month on my phone. (streaming radio)
So for $120/year I have unlimited use of my Vogue Android anywhere and can tether my laptop on the road.
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Are you with Bell? Do you use any apps to encrypt the data?

Tmobile blocking tether now. Anyone else?

I'm running chromatic and as of 3 this morning tmobile is blocking my tether. Has this happened to anyone else yet? They want to upsell me to add tethering for 15 more a month and it still has the 5gb cap (Total BS) The built in wired tether and pdanet both aren't working, don't know about wifi tether yet but I'm assuming its blocked too. I found some posts by some g2 users this has happened to. Any one else? I'm glad im paying $30 for "unlimited" data. Aholes.
Thanks!
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Wireless tether aka wifi tether for rooted phones from code.google.com should still work. I've seen other reports of such blocks with market programs.
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They popped me last night. G1 rooted running wifi tether for root users and pdanet. This sucks REALLY bad.

im using tether now to be on xda and facebook. im in new mexico and the only message ive gotten from tmoblie was there were slowing my download speeds for hitting my cap with unlimited data plan lol.

I have a rooted G1, and I usually use wifi-tether or Barnacle. Tried PDANet as well.
I've received 8 text-messages from Tmobile regarding my tethering being blocked. Odd thing was, I was streaming pandora-radio on the phone during a long car drive (~5 hours) while these things beeped away at me. I had tethered earlier for a few minutes to check my gmail.
Later when I tried to tether to check my email, any http requests direct me to an upsell message. However, Remote-desktop still works, FTP still works, and most everything except plain webpages work. Tmobile is asking $15/mo for 200MB of data, with $0.10/MB overage charges ontop of your 10GB "unlimited" plan.
I'm unsure of how they detect tethering. It seems to be based off of bandwidth usage, as there's no way for them to discern whether this is phone traffic or laptop traffic. The other thing that could be a possible giveaway is the number of connections that are open. I'd imagine the laptop has a few things open for windows update, msn messenger and who knows what, whereas the phone has Browser and Lattitude.
Regardless, this is balls.

user agent string
If they are blocking web browser traffic, but not other TCP/IP services like FTP or remote desktop, there's a chance they are fingerprinting non-phone web requests by looking at the user agent string. An interesting test would be whether or not you're able to still make HTTPS-only requests with the web browser on your desktop or laptop. It would take some evil hackery for them to be able to retrieve the user agent string from an HTTPS request.
See 14.43 of the HTTP 1.1 spec for a description of the user agent string.

Got around it by setting up an openvpn on cyanogen 6.1.0. Even if im not using tethering, im still gonna use openvpn for my data traffic, as they are probably using deep packet inspection, which means we no longer have any privacy on tmobiles network.
Im thinking about changing the default port to 443 so as far as they are concerned, im just browsing ssl sites on my phone (port 443 is the default ssl port for web browsing and openvpn uses ssl for encryption).
If you use this method, just be sure to reset you dns to to googles (8.8.8.8) otherwise they can still tell whether or not your tethering based on my experience.
Im seriously considering switching to sprint as i would actually be willing to pay for their tethering, i get 4g in my area and i have a lot of respect for sprint for not capping their 4g.
Maybe if tmobile offered more bandwidth or other features for their 15 bucks a month I would actually be willing to pay for it, but i AM NOT paying for data that I allready paid for. Data is data to them, my cap isnt changing, why should i pay more to pipe my data to my computer.

Correct me if I'm wrong but tethering for $15 essentially removes the 5gb throttled cap. Its the same as Sprint and their $10 fee. The 200mb plan is just a lower tier.
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JustinTArthur said:
An interesting test would be whether or not you're able to still make HTTPS-only requests with the web browser on your desktop or laptop. It would take some evil hackery for them to be able to retrieve the user agent string from an HTTPS request.
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Https to mail.google.com works just fine!
funkeee said:
Correct me if I'm wrong but tethering for $15 essentially removes the 5gb throttled cap. Its the same as Sprint and their $10 fee. The 200mb plan is just a lower tier.
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last time I was working the tmobile call-center for T3DS (spring 2010), the cap was 10GB. Although, that was nearly a year ago now. Samson had a lil' checkbox for "throttled" that was enabled at 10GB. perhaps a year and a half ago, maybe two now, they had disabled tethering previousy system-wide. Although back then I had a Motorola Krzr with no data, so I really had no clue what was affected.
The $15 thing is to enable tethering. two days ago it was offering me something around 40-50 dollars for "unlimited" (atop the $30 i pay for unlimited data), and $15 for 200MB (atop of the $30 i play for unlimited data). Of course, you must have a data-plan already in place. Looking at it again today, the page is different. It presents me with a mini terms of service, a button to add this package to my plan to enable tethering. No mention or word of cost.
And, visiting my.tmobile.com like it suggests... there's nothing on the official Tmobile website that I can find for the tethering package.
So, being the typical t-mo customer that I am, I called up the 1-800 number to whine and complain. I mostly want these annoying text-messages to stop. The rep said he could add on the tethering package for me, but I declined. He also offered to hand this over to his buisness group to see if these messages are being sent out in error.
TLDR: If I have to pay $85/mo minimum for smartphone with tethering abilities, i'd rather just give Verizon a call.

starnostar said:
Got around it by setting up an openvpn on cyanogen 6.1.0. Even if im not using tethering, im still gonna use openvpn for my data traffic, as they are probably using deep packet inspection, which means we no longer have any privacy on tmobiles network.
Im thinking about changing the default port to 443 so as far as they are concerned, im just browsing ssl sites on my phone (port 443 is the default ssl port for web browsing and openvpn uses ssl for encryption).
If you use this method, just be sure to reset you dns to to googles (8.8.8.8) otherwise they can still tell whether or not your tethering based on my experience.
Im seriously considering switching to sprint as i would actually be willing to pay for their tethering, i get 4g in my area and i have a lot of respect for sprint for not capping their 4g.
Maybe if tmobile offered more bandwidth or other features for their 15 bucks a month I would actually be willing to pay for it, but i AM NOT paying for data that I allready paid for. Data is data to them, my cap isnt changing, why should i pay more to pipe my data to my computer.
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I've never successfully set up openvpn before, could you assist with this? Or is there a guide you recommend for beginners?

work around
was cut off last night.
tried the "user agent switcher" plugin for firefox to see if they are blocking browsers rather than the tethering itself.
With limited testing, i found several agents that work. iphone 3.0 to name one... Now to figure a way to keep the web looking nice using these agents.

I just received my first text warning and was cut off immediately....the 5gig throttle was already a huge kick to my nuts...now they want me to pay to tether and still be under the same cap?! I hit 5gigs WITHOUT tether...I really don't know how tmo expects to keep any smartphone customers like this...
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The solution to this is very easy;
EVERYBODY needs to call up tmobile and tell them that you were NOT tethering, but changed the USER AGENT ON YOUR PHONE in order to make websites actually work since douchebag websites read that the user agent is for MOBILE and send you to their crippled mobile websites.

dhkr123 said:
The solution to this is very easy;
EVERYBODY needs to call up tmobile and tell them that you were NOT tethering, but changed the USER AGENT ON YOUR PHONE in order to make websites actually work since douchebag websites read that the user agent is for MOBILE and send you to their crippled mobile websites.
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Well... You can call them all you like. Previously working for a tmobile call-center, I can assure you little will be done. If I received the call, I would be opening up samson and checking your usage history. The billing system logs just about every bit of data transfered, although I cant remember if it lists URL's anymore. I would suggest telling them that you were tethering, decline on the upsell offer of the tethering package because you feel your "unlimited data" package actually means unlimited, then you can also tell them that it is interfering with the phones operation by itself even when you arnt tethering, and request some sort of further troubleshooting/ticket creation.
If you say you arnt tethering, but DID tether, we could usually see judging by how many connections were initiated over a period of time... There's only so much an android phone can do at once. Regardless, as a data/tech rep, the next step would be filing a network trouble-ticket and putting in your information for an "engineer" to review over. Theres little (if not nothing) for the follow-up/callback process. At this point I would be telling you an engineer/tech would review over it, and try to end the call by up-selling you a newer phone.
TLDR: Unless things have changed in the past year, You will only talk to customer-care rep's, and have no chance of getting your concerns to those who have any power over these decisions. However if you do call in, please be polite and patient with the rep. I've called in and informed them that these are being erroneously generated, and they've taken the time to make a ticket for me. (they were, I got 8 of the damned things while listening to pandora on my phone)

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Well... You can call them all you like. Previously working for a tmobile call-center, I can assure you little will be done.
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Not for a single call, but if EVERYBODY called and complained about it, it WOULD be dealt with.
If I received the call, I would be opening up samson and checking your usage history. The billing system logs just about every bit of data transfered, although I cant remember if it lists URL's anymore.
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Go ahead and check the usage history. A smartphone is capable of generating EXACTLY the same data use as a tethered computer.
I would suggest telling them that you were tethering, decline on the upsell offer of the tethering package because you feel your "unlimited data" package actually means unlimited, then you can also tell them that it is interfering with the phones operation by itself even when you arnt tethering, and request some sort of further troubleshooting/ticket creation.
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And that is EXACTLY what you do NOT want to do, because as soon as you do that, all discussion is over.
If you say you arnt tethering, but DID tether, we could usually see judging by how many connections were initiated over a period of time...
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That might have been the case in years gone by, but no longer.
There's only so much an android phone can do at once.
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Huh? The limiting factor here is the NETWORK, not the hardware. It is TRIVIAL to open up dozens of connections for lots of different services on lots of different servers. Just because it is beyond YOU does not mean that **I** can't do it.
Regardless, as a data/tech rep, the next step would be filing a network trouble-ticket and putting in your information for an "engineer" to review over. Theres little (if not nothing) for the follow-up/callback process. At this point I would be telling you an engineer/tech would review over it, and try to end the call by up-selling you a newer phone.
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And once that request has been filed, you don't think that statistics will be run on the nature of the various requests? 200 thousand complaints about this nonsense knocking out normal phone data traffic, you don't think that would be noticed?
TLDR: Unless things have changed in the past year, You will only talk to customer-care rep's, and have no chance of getting your concerns to those who have any power over these decisions. However if you do call in, please be polite and patient with the rep. I've called in and informed them that these are being erroneously generated, and they've taken the time to make a ticket for me. (they were, I got 8 of the damned things while listening to pandora on my phone)
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As I've said, numbers talk. I certainly don't advocate calling up and threatening anyone, but if the numbers are overwhelming, then corrective actions MUST be taken.

Please look at my post regarding T-mobile tethering
[/COLOR]I'm pretty sure I know what T-Mobile did.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=26649587#post26649587

[Q] stock out of the box 2.2 froyo wireless tethering?

I just got a brand new out of the box stock captivate, sgh-i897, i897uckb2, kernel version 2.6.32.9, froyouckb2. I have the mobile ap in wireless settings, but when I click I get a message saying not allowed. How what is my least invasive option of turning this on without paying att a ridiculous plan premium? Can it be done without flashing a custom rom? I did that to a previous cappy and had constant problems. I am not very savy at all in these matters and just simply want the dumb guy how to make wireless tethering work for me.

You have to root first. then install Titanium backup from the market. Free version is fine.
Go into titanium where is says to restore apps and you will find a list of all the aps on your phone. delete tethering manager and you should be able to tether. The message saying you need a thethering plan will still be on the mobile AP page but it should work.

Just an FYI. AT&T is tracking ppl that are using Tethering without paying for tethering. They are starting to add the tethering charge to the bill, without telling, because they assume you have read the contract. They even have gone as far as dropping you out of the data connection plan.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=998148

popfan said:
Just an FYI. AT&T is tracking ppl that are using Tethering without paying for tethering. They are starting to add the tethering charge to the bill, without telling, because they assume you have read the contract. They even have gone as far as dropping you out of the data connection plan.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=998148
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It's hit or miss though. There are tons of people here that say they have tethered up to several gigs and have never gotten a notice. Most of them seem to think it is from iPhone cracks. Who really knows for sure...
I have tethered for quite a while now (since about 2009, even before my captivate, without the plan. I don't use it as much as those people, but do use it regularly, and have never been notified. I look at it like this: I don't think they will cancel a plan - they want our money. If they add thethring to my plan without telling me, I will just simply take it off. that's that.
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and no, I'm not trying to rehash the whole tethering/plan argument. Just trying to let the OP know what I have read...

Easiest safest root method? One click root?

Robrad said:
Easiest safest root method? One click root?
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I found it to be. Don't forgot to use DEV mode.

The market no longer shows a 1 click root. Any suggestions on how to root otherwise?

Robrad said:
The market no longer shows a 1 click root. Any suggestions on how to root otherwise?
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grab the zip I uploaded. unzip it. run SuperOnneClick in the folder. Make sure your phone is on AND in debugging mode (in settings/apps/development)
click Rook, then, after that finishes, click Allow non market apps. may take a couple of times.
The version I attached is the only one I could get to successfully root stock 2.2
Let me know if you have problems.
edit: i corrected the path to debugging mode (above).

Unlock Hotspot?

Anyone know how to unlock the hotspot? I have the S10+ Sprint variant.

I would love to know this too. I have tried a few methods that worked in the past (on my Galaxy S8) but no luck yet. I have the S10 Sprint variant.

SilverJester said:
I would love to know this too. I have tried a few methods that worked in the past (on my Galaxy S8) but no luck yet. I have the S10 Sprint variant.
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PDANET will allow sharing and is working fine with my unlocked S10+.

charrog said:
PDANET will allow sharing and is working fine with my unlocked S10+.
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Thanks! I will give it a try later today. Couple of questions though:
Is there a way (using tasker maybe) to start pdanet/tethering when the phone connects to my car's bluetooth?
Should I enable the "Hide Tether Usage" option for sprint (it says its only needed for certain carriers)?
Also FYI to other Sprint users, this is blocked on the Play Store (I didn't even know apps could be blocked based on your carrier until now). But you can download the APK from pdanet.co/install

SilverJester said:
Thanks! I will give it a try later today. Couple of questions though:
Is there a way (using tasker maybe) to start pdanet/tethering when the phone connects to my car's bluetooth?
Should I enable the "Hide Tether Usage" option for sprint (it says its only needed for certain carriers)?
Also FYI to other Sprint users, this is blocked on the Play Store (I didn't even know apps could be blocked based on your carrier until now). But you can download the APK from pdanet.co/install
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I use the hide tether option not sure about using tasker as I mainly use it with my Surface so I just crank it up when I get to the office. It works flawless usually 20-40 gigs per month.

I can't try it on this line anymore my plan now has 50g hotspot included I'm like an ESN swap it to one of my other lines and test it later

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PDANET will allow sharing and is working fine with my unlocked S10+.
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What settings are you using? I can't get it.

Flash U1 firmware.

is PDAnet available in google play store? Its been way too long for me on android and looking to get this working on my Sprint Samsung S10+. any help is appreciated. thank you!

I see the link up there to download, PDANet works okay but its annoying how it changes hotspot wifi name so I have to find the new network and enter a new password each time. Hoping for a much better solution in the future.

pdappcgeek said:
What settings are you using? I can't get it.
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No certain settings check WIFI Direct Hotspot (new!), hide tether usage then click the WPS button and then click connect on the desired device.

I miss the days when we almost always had root on android devices

hey all, been looking for a solution for this for a bit and havent gotten anywhere. Tried PDANET but seems to just come up with a corrupted connection if I try to connect normally. Cant install the desktop app to try and connect that way as im needing this on my work laptop. Also trying to avoid rooting...
I have an unlocked S10
Missing that easy shortcutmaster hack from my S8

Has anyone found out a way yet? Using 6 0's as MSL still doesn't allow access to change APN's. PDANET wifi direct us slow.

You could always just pay for it with your carrier and enable it the right way in the stock settings, no? You pay almost a grand for a phone, but are too cheap to pay the extra $10 for the hotspot option? LOL

SquireSCA said:
You could always just pay for it with your carrier and enable it the right way in the stock settings, no? You pay almost a grand for a phone, but are too cheap to pay the extra $10 for the hotspot option? LOL
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In the end I'll pay less than $380 to lease this phone. I don't know of an unlimited hotspot for $10. We pay almost $400 for 5 lines and it seems like the bill just keeps going up. Too cheap? No just tired of paying them more than they deserve, signal is great at home, where I need the hotspot, damn near useless everywhere else in town.

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In the end I'll pay less than $380 to lease this phone. I don't know of an unlimited hotspot for $10. We pay almost $400 for 5 lines and it seems like the bill just keeps going up. Too cheap? No just tired of paying them more than they deserve, signal is great at home, where I need the hotspot, damn near useless everywhere else in town.
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If you are home then you don't need a hotspot, or are you just trying to steal unlimited data from your cell carrier and run your home on it rather than pay for home internet?

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If you are home then you don't need a hotspot, or are you just trying to steal unlimited data from your cell carrier and run your home on it rather than pay for home internet?
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The only options for internet where I live are satellite or a dish shooting from a mountain. Both are god awful expensive ($120/m for 600KBps) and slow. You seem to keep jumping to a conclusion that I'm cheap, they want $24,000 to run cable less than half a mile. From experience, Sprint is fine until you hit 1tb, they aren't stupid, I'm sure they know what I'm doing. I didn't ask for your opinion on what I should or should not buy. I'll take it as you have no information on how to enable the hotspot, thanks for your input.

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If you are home then you don't need a hotspot, or are you just trying to steal unlimited data from your cell carrier and run your home on it rather than pay for home internet?
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Who cares what someone wants to do with their services. Help out the OP by giving them some information or don't comment at all. If you were in his position you might do the same. I know I would since the last time I used dial up speed for home internet was back in 2004.
Op something I might recommend depending on your ATT receiption at your home. Active a Cricket (ATT MNVO) on their Unlimited extra plan and pop the Sim into a cheap $50-100 unlocked international phone and you can use Hotspot for free. The plan is $60 and I've seen people ok Reddit saying they've used up to 300+ GBS with no issues.
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Comet1966 said:
The only options for internet where I live are satellite or a dish shooting from a mountain. Both are god awful expensive ($120/m for 600KBps) and slow. You seem to keep jumping to a conclusion that I'm cheap, they want $24,000 to run cable less than half a mile. From experience, Sprint is fine until you hit 1tb, they aren't stupid, I'm sure they know what I'm doing. I didn't ask for your opinion on what I should or should not buy. I'll take it as you have no information on how to enable the hotspot, thanks for your input.
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I'm terribly sorry to hear that... I've got fiber and it's $100/mo for 1GB speed...

Android 9 update broke ability to Wifi Tether without root!

What a bummer! I used to use settings database editor to enable wifi tether. Worked fine. Android 9 broke this, now it says "a network issue may be preventing..." It does still turn on and my devices can connect to it, but no internet
This is so disheartening! Any solutions?

resinis said:
What a bummer! I used to use settings database editor to enable wifi tether. Worked fine. Android 9 broke this, now it says "a network issue may be preventing..." It does still turn on and my devices can connect to it, but no internet
This is so disheartening! Any solutions?
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Are you rooted?

Ainz_Ooal_Gown said:
Are you rooted?
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no. But if I can root this thing and that allows me to enable thethering, then I will go that route.
Otherwise, I might just downgrade to 8.1. 9.0 doesnt seem to be any different anyway. And I need tethering... Like right now, I am trying to verify my VNC works from outside my LAN... I used to just connect my phone to my laptop and bam, I can prove it works from a different IP.
Freaking frustrating. Every version of android tries to lock down Wifi Tether. I paid for my 5GB allotment, why the hell do they care how I use it?

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no. But if I can root this thing and that allows me to enable thethering, then I will go that route.
Otherwise, I might just downgrade to 8.1. 9.0 doesnt seem to be any different anyway. And I need tethering... Like right now, I am trying to verify my VNC works from outside my LAN... I used to just connect my phone to my laptop and bam, I can prove it works from a different IP.
Freaking frustrating. Every version of android tries to lock down Wifi Tether. I paid for my 5GB allotment, why the hell do they care how I use it?
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Wait what carrier are you with? And simple to make more money you have your normal internet on your plan And then you have the 1-100GB for tethering that you can add on to your plan for a certain amount of money, me being in sprint on the highest plan I get 10GB for hotspot/tethering.

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Wait what carrier are you with? And simple to make more money you have your normal internet on your plan And then you have the 1-100GB for tethering that you can add on to your plan for a certain amount of money, me being in sprint on the highest plan I get 10GB for hotspot/tethering.
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I'm on cricket. Why would I pay extra to use the same 5GB that i never use up every month? It's stupid. You're right, it's a scam. That's why I want to hack the tether for free. I have always found a way to do it in the past... and it worked on this phone with android 8....

resinis said:
I'm on cricket. Why would I pay extra to use the same 5GB that i never use up every month? It's stupid. You're right, it's a scam. That's why I want to hack the tether for free. I have always found a way to do it in the past... and it worked on this phone with android 8....
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FoxFi worked on Verizon till about 2 years ago when they caught on but you could try that app

Ainz_Ooal_Gown said:
FoxFi worked on Verizon till about 2 years ago when they caught on but you could try that app
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i tried. its not just a carrier block... android 8 worked fine with "settings database editor" app. after android 9 update it no longer works. I do get past the authorization check but then it pops up "something wrong with the network, check carrier"

resinis said:
i tried. its not just a carrier block... android 8 worked fine with "settings database editor" app. after android 9 update it no longer works. I do get past the authorization check but then it pops up "something wrong with the network, check carrier"
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There is a Magisk Module that supposedly works but you would have to personally check.

I upgraded my LM-V405QA to Pie and can native tether just fine. Since it is the unlocked version it does not perform any entitlement check.
It sounds like perhaps whatever you did to enable tethering on Android 8 no longer works the same way on 9, and that is why you get that message.
The module that @Ainz_Ooal_Gown mentioned does not appear in Magisk for me, however "MagiskHide Props Config" does. Using that you can set net.tethering.noprovisioning=true and reboot to bypass entitlement check.

Ainz_Ooal_Gown said:
There is a Magisk Module that supposedly works but you would have to personally check.
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thanks. do you know if the ATT v40 is even rootable after the pie update?