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Lately I've noticed that my Milestone has some problems with displaying colors.
I have attached the screenshot of my home, where you can see terrible transitions between similar hues.
lso, there is wallpaper file attached, which seems to be okay to me.
Is it common with those screens or it's just my Milestone?
my milestone does the same :/ could it be that it does not have 16 million colors?
24 bit images on a 16 bit display will cause the banding you see.
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24 bit images on a 16 bit display will cause the banding you see.
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i find it weird that no reviews mentions this or even the specifications sheet, :/ the desire has an 24 bit display?
That's what I thought, pretty much.
Still, it being not mentioned is strange, as it seems to be fairly serious issue. Unless it's possible to convert images with no quality loss visible on the screen.
The proper term is dither, in cyanogen you can enable surface dithering in cyanogen mod settings > performance which should improve image quality at the cost of performance. Not sure about other roms.
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im curious to know about the display used in the droid 2 and droid x, the htc desire, are they using a 24 bit display now?
The Droid/Milestone does have a 24-bit display: http://www.displaymate.com/Motorola_Droid_ShootOut.htm
In fact, the Droid 2 uses the same LCD.
That gradient problem with your image is probably caused by several problems:
1. The picture is not a true 24-bit image.
2. Google's Gallery is limited to 16-bit!
The Milestone/Droid has one of the finest LCDs on the market, and if it had not been so expensive when it was first released in Canada ($600!), I would have bought it in a heartbeat, despite the locked bootloader.
EDIT: I've just examined the photo on my 24-bit Aquos, and it looks perfectly smooth, so the problem is being caused by Android 2.1. FroYo's Gallery is also limited to 16-bit.
So what gallery could I use to put wallpapers on?
Flikie does pretty much the same, as it uses Froyo gallery.
Well, it seems that application named Wallpaper Set and Save (find it in market, it's free) is the easy way out.
This app lets you set the 24-bit wallpaper keeping the desired quality, more or less.
Though, it may make Launcher Pro FC a couple of times right after setting the new wallpaper, then it works flawlessly.
applebook said:
The Droid/Milestone does have a 24-bit display: http://www.displaymate.com/Motorola_Droid_ShootOut.htm
In fact, the Droid 2 uses the same LCD.
That gradient problem with your image is probably caused by several problems:
1. The picture is not a true 24-bit image.
2. Google's Gallery is limited to 16-bit!
The Milestone/Droid has one of the finest LCDs on the market, and if it had not been so expensive when it was first released in Canada ($600!), I would have bought it in a heartbeat, despite the locked bootloader.
EDIT: I've just examined the photo on my 24-bit Aquos, and it looks perfectly smooth, so the problem is being caused by Android 2.1. FroYo's Gallery is also limited to 16-bit.
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if the 16 bit problem is androids fault how could google not fix this in 2.2? so thats why a lot of of phones use a different gallery than the stock, im surprised this isnt mentioned more often
This link should be a sticky http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2362605,00.asp
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Well, it seems that application named Wallpaper Set and Save (find it in market, it's free) is the easy way out.
This app lets you set the 24-bit wallpaper keeping the desired quality, more or less.
Though, it may make Launcher Pro FC a couple of times right after setting the new wallpaper, then it works flawlessly.
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i searched for it and it says it only works in 1.x not in 2.x but it works... weird
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if the 16 bit problem is androids fault how could google not fix this in 2.2? so thats why a lot of of phones use a different gallery than the stock, im surprised this isnt mentioned more often
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Yeah, I agree. Apparently, Samsung's Galaxy S Gallery is a bit better. Not truly 24-bit, but the Galaxy S adds improved dithering. The Galaxy S, with all of the hype about SAMOLED, is not even a real 24-bit display You Milestone/Droid/Droid 2 folks have the best Android screen, IMO.
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This link should be a sticky http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2362605,00.asp
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True.
Google is not eager to tell you the answer if you don't exactly know what you are looking for. And for non-technical people it may be hard to guess.
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im curious to know about the display used in the droid 2 and droid x, the htc desire, are they using a 24 bit display now?
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i dont know what the droid screen was like but i got a milestone 2(droid 2) yesterday and the screen looks awful on it, nothing but dull colours, i just made a post about it here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=10401973#post10401973
hey guys i'm on a rooted bionic and i think i might be going crazy. i thought before i rooted that i could change picture quality on my camera. well i went in yesterday and it will only let me choose between 8 mp and 6 mp. if anyone is having this issue please let me know if there isnt an issue would someone please call my boss and tell him i need more sleep. thanks
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hey guys i'm on a rooted bionic and i think i might be going crazy. i thought before i rooted that i could change picture quality on my camera. well i went in yesterday and it will only let me choose between 8 mp and 6 mp. if anyone is having this issue please let me know if there isnt an issue would someone please call my boss and tell him i need more sleep. thanks
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I may be mistaken, but I thought that those two values were the only options?
you might be 100% correct on that lol i just needed someone else to confirm it. thanks.
Underwater Mike said:
I may be mistaken, but I thought that those two values were the only options?
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You can only choose between the two settings. No other options are available on root or non-rooted devices.
You'd have to get a third party camera app like camera 360 or vignette to change that stuff
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You'd have to get a third party camera app like camera 360 or vignette to change that stuff
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I am now using Camera360 and I just have to say the quality of the pictures is worlds better then the Motorola app. The colors are more accurate and not washed out, and the focus is quicker. All in all the pictures I am getting with Camera360 are on par with my Panasonic Lumix camera, and the ones with the Motorola app (well they kind of sucked). But anyway, Camera360 was the best 3.99 (or 2.99 I forget) I ever spent. For anyone complaining about the Motorola camera, PLEASE give Camera360 a shot. The program doesn't use all of the screen because it is not qhd compatible yet, but the finished photo is still worth it. MUCH better
Side note: The "paper camera" app is pretty cool if you can't draw to save your life but want some memories that look awesome like that. I found it today & thought it was pretty awesome.
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I am now using Camera360 and I just have to say the quality of the pictures is worlds better then the Motorola app. The colors are more accurate and not washed out, and the focus is quicker. All in all the pictures I am getting with Camera360 are on par with my Panasonic Lumix camera, and the ones with the Motorola app (well they kind of sucked). But anyway, Camera360 was the best 3.99 (or 2.99 I forget) I ever spent. For anyone complaining about the Motorola camera, PLEASE give Camera360 a shot. The program doesn't use all of the screen because it is not qhd compatible yet, but the finished photo is still worth it. MUCH better
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I gave Camera360 a shot. It was way too buggy for me. The viewfinder kept going black on several occasions. It also didn't want to quit when I tried to exit the camera a few times.
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So far I've only been playing Injustice and Galaxy On Fire 2.
Do you have a favorite or suggestion to really show off the power of this tablet?
haha nice question but i would like samsung to at least put 2 of the demo videos they have into the tablet just to show them off to friends ohhh look at this amazing display haha. then delete them when you're sick of them
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haha nice question but i would like samsung to at least put 2 of the demo videos they have into the tablet just to show them off to friends ohhh look at this amazing display haha. then delete them when you're sick of them
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This app shows the advantages over LCD and some other benefits of the Tab S.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=air.TabSApp
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So far I've only been playing Injustice and Galaxy On Fire 2.
Do you have a favorite or suggestion to really show off the power of this tablet?
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I too have been playing GoF2 and it is amazing on the AMOLED screen. The other three that I play and look exceptional due to the screen are Baldur's Gate Enhanced Edition, Shadowrun Returns and Osmos HD. I am always looking for more so any suggestions would be great.
XBMC HD Videos look really nice on this tablet. At least my time watching GOT on this tablet has been a good experience.
The preinstalled video Wonder of Nature is a good one to show it off
Shadowgun runs pretty well on this tablet :
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.madfingergames.shadowgun
I think DEAD SPACE and NEED FOR SPEED PURSUIT shows awesome
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Shadowgun runs pretty well on this tablet :
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.madfingergames.shadowgun
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It looks beautiful but.... runs good? I have the Asus Transformer Infinity TF701 with the Tegra 4. I ran the games side by side. On ultra settings the Tegra 4 is MUCH smoother and polished. When running on the Samsung, you feel a bit of stutter. My game play suffered a bit until i got use to it. It seems to clear up on the lower graphic setting.
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It looks beautiful but.... runs good?
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At least, it runs better than on my Transformer TF101 !
Leos fortune looks awesome. Well worth the $5.
Rio 2 is a good video to show it off
I second Leo's Fortune
Third it, amazing looking game
Timescapes 1440p Video
Anyone here can try to find and download this video. Timescapes 1440p Video. Search for it. It is 1440p and plays flawlessly with MX Player. It is must have demo material. Whoever watches it will be blown away. Must have for this device. It is about 6GB so an External SD would be ideal.
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It looks beautiful but.... runs good? I have the Asus Transformer Infinity TF701 with the Tegra 4. I ran the games side by side. On ultra settings the Tegra 4 is MUCH smoother and polished. When running on the Samsung, you feel a bit of stutter. My game play suffered a bit until i got use to it. It seems to clear up on the lower graphic setting.
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Just played Shadowgun on my Tab S 10.5 on Ultra Settings. Super smooth. No lag or stutter present.
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Just played Shadowgun on my Tab S 10.5 on Ultra Settings. Super smooth. No lag or stutter present.
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Wouldn't be surprised.....ran like butter on my 2 year old tablet.
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Wouldn't be surprised.....ran like butter on my 2 year old tablet.
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Dunno, his Tab S seems to stutter on everything. He should really look into replacing that thing. I wasn't surprised it was smooth either. I mean it's not Battlefield 4 after all .
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Anyone here can try to find and download this video. Timescapes 1440p Video. Search for it. It is 1440p and plays flawlessly with MX Player. It is must have demo material. Whoever watches it will be blown away. Must have for this device. It is about 6GB so an External SD would be ideal.
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Unfortunately FAT32 external SD cards have a 4GB file size limit, so even that won't help. I would love to find a few clips from this. I think I could split it myself, but I'm afraid I won't be able to do it properly without losing quality through re-encoding. I'm no pro when it comes to that kind of stuff.
Great suggestion though.
Format your card in ExFat file system and no longer be a 4gb limited victim!
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Format your card in ExFat file system and no longer be a 4gb limited victim!
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Really? I did not know that. Thank you!
Did anybody tried to play them using vr?
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Did anybody tried to play them using vr?
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you can still see sub-pixels because of the magnification. it's still great nevertheless.
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you can still see sub-pixels because of the magnification. it's still great nevertheless.
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the subpixels make me pine for a note 5 with a 4k screen, but still impressed with how polished the presentation is, really a great experience. hands down worth the $200 just for movies if you have a note 4. better than my sony hmz-t3. now someone hurry and make it netflix, dish anywhere, play movies, amazon compatible... and limelight for video game streaming of course, then i will be super happy.
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the subpixels make me pine for a note 5 with a 4k screen, but still impressed with how polished the presentation is, really a great experience. hands down worth the $200 just for movies if you have a note 4. better than my sony hmz-t3. now someone hurry and make it netflix, dish anywhere, play movies, amazon compatible... and limelight for video game streaming of course, then i will be super happy.
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hmm, maybe "sub-pixels" is a poor choice of word... it's more like the spacing between the pixels i'm seeing. and i loaded up a 4k video and it looked odd. i'll need to try it again using the 'void theater' rather than the other ones since it's the "largest" screen.
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hmm, maybe "sub-pixels" is a poor choice of word... it's more like the spacing between the pixels i'm seeing. and i loaded up a 4k video and it looked odd. i'll need to try it again using the 'void theater' rather than the other ones since it's the "largest" screen.
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2D movies don't need to be larger than 720p as that is the highest resolution you can see on the screen in the Oculus cinema. Everything higher just burns unnecessary battery life.
360 videos can be higher res tho.
Everyone saw this nice addition yet? Was really nice specially the Rosie and the New Zeeland sports 360 videos.
However after playing 5 videos in a row I got a message that my gear vr needs to cool down for optimal performance. Is this a Exynos issue in the im360VR app? Or does it happen to SD as well?
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When experiencing this one make sure you discovered the possibility to turn through your gear vr-touchpad.
Makes it a lot easier and less turning head while watching the Rosie vid to watch who is talking or jumping off that aeroplane facing backwards trying to turn your head 180 degrees.
This functionality is only available in im360VR and not in Oculus 360 videos to me, is there a way to turn your "start position" there other than reorienting? Would be nice... maybe with some game pad?
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These videos are terribly out of focus and barely watchable.
I don't think they are that bad, some of them are not well put together 360 because you can see the edges where the pictures are merged, if that's what you mean with out of focus.
But still nice addition with new experiences.
Not too many decent "real world/person" 360 experiences expect for cirque de soleil and evolution of verse is also really well done though it's also has animation.
All the other animated and games are better in many ways with less obvious pixeling effect. But it's a nice idea visiting real places through the vr 360. And this does that.
And as said nice functionality with choosing which direction to face using the gear vr touchpad.
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I don't think they are that bad, some of them are not well put together 360 because you can see the edges where the pictures are merged, if that's what you mean with out of focus.
But still nice addition with new experiences.
Not too many decent "real world/person" 360 experiences expect for cirque de soleil and evolution of verse is also really well done though it's also has animation.
All the other animated and games are better in many ways with less obvious pixeling effect. But it's a nice idea visiting real places through the vr 360. And this does that.
And as said nice functionality with choosing which direction to face using the gear vr touchpad.
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I'm surprised you're comparing Felix&Paul / VRSE content with this. This is just spherical video, while the other is 3D spherical video, which is infinitely more complex to achieve.
There is a ton of spherical video available (there's a whole topic of links here), but the immersion is completely inferior to actual, properly stitched 3D spherical.
PS: Which part of Evolution of Verse do you reckon is not animation?
Yes that is true didn't mean to compare them as in that they are equal in any way, just the type of content I was thinking of, closer to real world experiences than say temple run. And it doesn't apply to Ev.o.v. now that I think about it. I guess all of it is animation but the start shows a view as if it was real and done nicely, it's not a gaming environment or cartoon environment if you know what I mean, more real. But the rest with pattern & colors in the sky and the train and ending it is really pure animation and not even meant to look real.
There is a ton out there yes but when it is added in Oculus store it is usually some kind of quality check and better than the average video you'll find which I find this was also.
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Yes that is true didn't mean to compare them as in that they are equal in any way, just the type of content I was thinking of, closer to real world experiences than say temple run. And it doesn't apply to Ev.o.v. now that I think about it. I guess all of it is animation but the start shows a view as if it was real and done nicely, it's not a gaming environment or cartoon environment if you know what I mean, more real. But the rest with pattern & colors in the sky and the train and ending it is really pure animation and not even meant to look real.
There is a ton out there yes but when it is added in Oculus store it is usually some kind of quality check and better than the average video you'll find which I find this was also.
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Unfortunately that quality check guy fell into a coma when they released half of the Milk VR content heh.
You really should check airpano, quite a bit of their stuff is superb, if not for the 2d bit. Then also Fassbender stuff, the new beach one is quite a relaxing experience.
Then also rest of Felix & Paul stuff (you only mentioned Zarkana), and if you're the experimental type, hack yourself some JauntVR videos (all of them are live-action spherical 3D, just not as good as F&P at stitching).
Thanks for great tips will check.
Anyone know if the overheat is more common/happens faster on exynos since to me it happened in this regular 360 videos as well as in games like herobound after a while. Hopefully it is better in Android L.
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Thanks for great tips will check.
Anyone know if the overheat is more common/happens faster on exynos since to me it happened in this regular 360 videos as well as in games like herobound after a while. Hopefully it is better in Android L.
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Sure, VRSE video takes the cake on mine. I started a habit of taking the back out - makes it a little bit cooler and also easier to remove the battery one it hangs like a depressed banana. Guess we should start installing fans.
PS: If you quote someone they get an notification so that they know someone has responded to them.
Im running mine in power saving mode and never get overheating message. It doesnt affect performance of watching 360 videos untill they are in 4k resolution. With power saving enabled and 4k 360 video being played there are frames skipped while moving head around.
On the other note. Is there a way do move videos downloaded in Im360vr to memory card and still play them while using them with im360vr app? Maybe easier way is to reencode them to mp4 format readable by "regular" 360 videos app? Seems like im360vr videos are over 1 gigabyte in size.
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Ok gonna try power saving, you enable CPU performance limit then, and nothing else?
Frames skipped is not optimal but until overheating is solved it'll do if it's only on 4k vids.
Yeah most of them are around or just over 1GB. Gonna try and see if it works moving them, could be that they need mod for it to work.
I'm also interested in vice versa, moving 360 to the im360VR folder to enable touchpad function but doubt it will work without mod/reencoding
Will check back when tried.
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Try this experiment. Place a normal video in the 360 folder and watch it. You will see that you can actually pan as in a 360 video but the image is quite out of focus and zoomed in despite being completely clear viewed in Oculus Cinema. Now place a normal 360 video in your My Videos folder. Perfectly clear although odd looking.
Perhaps the focus problems in 360 videos is due to zooming?
Anyone else having issues of downloading these videos? I look at the download button and tap the headset and I get nothing!
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Anyone else having issues of downloading these videos? I look at the download button and tap the headset and I get nothing!
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Same here.
The only thing that works for me is the streaming from the office. (The lights are on today)
Did anyone experience changes in the content of im360VR ?
3-4 days ago there has been a huge variety of different scenes, maybe about 10-15 different videos to download and now there is only a few.
I am not sure whether i screwed up my content library, due to deleting some of the content with the note 4 standard filemanager app and not inside the im360's app.
Uninstalling and reinstalling the im360VR app didn't help.
Looks like immersive media changed the content...
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Anyone else having issues of downloading these videos? I look at the download button and tap the headset and I get nothing!
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I just read a post in the Oculus forum by Domen Lo saying to make sure you are using wi-fi.
I turned my wi-fi on and now I am able to download.
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I just read a post in the Oculus forum by Domen Lo saying to make sure you are using wi-fi.
I turned my wi-fi on and now I am able to download.
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Hehe, yay.