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Do you think the T-Mobile Note 5 will be able to be rooted?

I'm currently using the S6 Edge on T-Mo and haven't upgraded to 5.1.1 because I've read here that people have had issues with their device after rooting on 5.1.1. I did the Ping Pong method to root my S6 Edge, but apparently the loophole was patched in 5.1.1, which is why things got a little screwy? Pardon my noobness if any of my terminology is off...
Anyway, I heavily rely on Unlimited Tethering and it's pretty much the only reason I root these days.
With 5.1.1 patched, is there even a possibility of rooting the T-Mo variant of the Note 5 anytime soon? Or should I not even pre-order?
Thanks in advance for any guidance.

I am still on KK 4.4.4 and do you think I should stay or upgrade?
I luv my unlimited tethering. I am surfing on my Windows laptop unlimited.

I have no inside knowledge. Just years of running the rooting gauntlet with the phones listed in my sig. Odds are, yes, the Note 5 will be rooted. Samsung is arguably the most watched and targeted handset maker by developers. It's a prize that motivates. But there is no guarantee, and lollipop has shown some resistance to rooting.

Chainfire will have one soon

Even if CF Root breaks Samsung pay and trips Knox, I'm okay with it because I'm not a believer in consolidating all my card(s) into a device.
Even though there's supposed to be a different number that generates every time, my number is stored somewhere by someone else other than my credit card company and myself. I'm probably being naive, but I'm still too scared, lol.
Anyway, back on topic, if there's a root, I'll most definitely get the Note 5. If not, I have to consider either Moto X Pure Edition or bum an invite off of my friend with the One Plus Two.
Fingers crossed for Note 5 root!

Stupid questions regarding getting a new Samsung Galaxy S5 G900A (AT&T)

If I were to right now get the Samsung Galaxy S5 AT&T ( http://www.att.com/cellphones/samsung/galaxy-s-5.html#sku=sku7120234 ), is it known whether it will have a rootable version or not?
If I am unable to root the phone and keep it rooted, I'll most likely have to go with another phone. (Which would be a shame.)
I've read up some on the situation, and it seems as long as it is version 4.4.4 I would be fine.
And I would be able to update while keeping root if I follow this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/att...w-to-update-to-g900aof2-5-0-keeproot-t3149146
So, I suppose the real question is how sure is it that you'll get the 4.4.4 (rootable) version of android?
And are there any downsides to doing so right now?
(I have a rooted phone now: An HTC First. The failed "Facebook" phone. It was very easy to root and receives no updates, so it's been hassle free, but it'd be nice to finally update.)

I'm not sure if you are buying direct from AT&T or not, but I think it's been confirmed that they have only been selling S5s with 5.0 on them out of the box.
Root may come eventually for those who have factory Lollipop images on their S5s, but I wouldn't count on it. Unfortunately, the window for an easy root on a brand new AT&T branded S5 has closed.

How much are you willing to spend? I'd consider selling my almost mint condition rooted 5.0 GS5 for the right price. I just got it in the Spring and it's in fantastic shape.

Dark_Vortex said:
I'm not sure if you are buying direct from AT&T or not, but I think it's been confirmed that they have only been selling S5s with 5.0 on them out of the box.
Root may come eventually for those who have factory Lollipop images on their S5s, but I wouldn't count on it. Unfortunately, the window for an easy root on a brand new AT&T branded S5 has closed.
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Thanks for the reply. Going to look at other options, then.

slicetwo said:
How much are you willing to spend? I'd consider selling my almost mint condition rooted 5.0 GS5 for the right price. I just got it in the Spring and it's in fantastic shape.
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Well, I was going with this phone because it is 'free' with the existing contract.... Looking at the other 'free' options now.

Motok0 said:
Well, I was going with this phone because it is 'free' with the existing contract.... Looking at the other 'free' options now.
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If root is a deal breaker I suggest not getting the GS5 unless you are positive that you can get one with KitKat out of the box.
That being said...I have an unrootable one on AT&T that I got free for extending my contract; and I found that their 5.0 build for this phone is probably the most stable phone I've ever had on AT&T ever. Besides the battery and back cover nag alerts and not being able to save Amazon video to the SD card...I have no other complaints re: not having root. But even when I had devices that were rooted...they were stock-rooted. As always...YMMV.
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New Galaxy S6 Questions

Probably switching to AT&T from Verizon this week and I'll probably be getting the S6.
I'd love to root it but I'd also like to keep Samsung Pay and the fingerprint reader intact if possible.
From what I understand this is only possible if the phone is still on 5.0.2, is that correct?
If so, does anyone know if I'll still get a new in the box phone with 5.0.2 if I walk into AT&T today?
Just want to make sure I don't run into the same mistake with my last phone of getting it too far into its life cycle and not being able to unlock/root.
Thanks!

More specifically you will need to walk out with a device that is on a software version no later than oce2. Of3 and of4 are both unroot able yet both are still 5.0.2. As the of3 update came out close to 5 or 6 months ago you'd be hard pressed to find and s6 on a version before of3 or of4 that hasn't already been sold. Long story short you most likely will not be able to root the phone at all. If you want root you need to buy a g920f or g920i stay away from the g920a. And as for Samsung pay your pretty much out of luck.. Samsung pay requires android 5.1.1 every version of the s6 has anti root feature in the 5.1.1 update so in order to root you'll need a custom kernel will means you will have to trip knox to root... So basically you can't have what you want on the s6 because of knox is tripped Samsung pay will not work.. Your going to have to compromise or your going to have a different phone.. I personally have the g920a from att and I cannot reccomend it at all.. I am still stuck on 5.0.2 just so I can keep riot while everyone else is up to date and running rxposed.. There is little hope for this phone to achieve root on 5.1.1 as it would require an unlocked bootloader which is not something that will conceivably happen.

Really appreciate the info. Probably going to get the S6 and see what happens. I went over a year without root on my M7 so I think I'll survive. If I can't stand it I'll have a couple weeks to exchange it. Sigh, stupid luck downs.

So I ended up with a G920A with OF4. I have not applied any OS updates at this point but it seems I am out of luck for rooting, is that correct? If so I think I can live with it. Between mobile hotspot being included now and a combination of Tasker and other apps I think I'll survive. I just have to make sure I'm good with TouchWiz.

When Marshmallow does get here...what then?

Between Verizon's (relatively) recently unlocked bootloader, systemless root in the Super betas and Marshmallow update, would updating be worth it when it gets here or should we hold out for 5.x to get rooted? Is there a chance Marshmallow will be easier to root? Should we just give in to mediocrity and live without root because we unwittingly bought the wrong phone?
I'm asking so we have a chance to get the discussion going since we are on the veritable cusp of the update we're all waiting for. I'm really hoping 6 is a little easier to root or that they'll relax security since this will probably be the last big update we get for a while.

One question is what is it that you need root for?

6 is nowhere near the biggest update for a while, you seen N? As for easier rooting, info there as well, that's why systemless root was made because it was impossible otherwise.
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Rakuu said:
6 is nowhere near the biggest update for a while, you seen N? As for easier rooting, info there as well, that's why systemless root was made because it was impossible otherwise.
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N looks huge, but I tend to side with OP on this. Our phone is 2 years old, I think Marshmallow will be our last major update. I can't see Samsung and AT&T giving us N.
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stew1411 said:
N looks huge, but I tend to side with OP on this. Our phone is 2 years old, I think Marshmallow will be our last major update. I can't see Samsung and AT&T giving us N.
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My point still stands, MM will not come any easier to root unless att intentionally exposes some way to root it in their update which I don't see them doing ever.
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YasharF said:
One question is what is it that you need root for?
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Rakuu said:
My point still stands, MM will not come any easier to root unless att intentionally exposes some way to root it in their update which I don't see them doing ever.
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My hope is that with the newer operating system there may be more unpatched security exploits. Either way, will M be worth not having root? I'd rather wait around for a working root for the versions we are on now than settle for an okay operating system.
Will system less root be implemented by out phones? I figured that was a stretch because of our bootloader.

Yeah, really good question... will Chainfire's systemless root work on our S5 with Marshmallow?

719c6 said:
Yeah, really good question... will Chainfire's systemless root work on our S5 with Marshmallow?
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Does it work on our s5 with lollipop? No it won't from what we know at this time, it requires modifying the kernel image I believe, so it won't work, rooting became a lot harder on a lot of devices with M.
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I wouldn't bet on it. AT&T likely won't be releasing N on our phone (look at how slow they're at pushing Marshmallow. Being the phone has now been out for 2 years, they won't be putting any more resources into the phone.
As for the bootloader, HAH. It's not going to get any easier to unlock, even more so that developers are turning to working on unlocking newer phones that are now in use; and AT&T certainly won't be unlocking it for us. They'd rather you buy a new phone from them.

QuillOmega0 said:
...AT&T certainly won't be unlocking it for us. They'd rather you buy a new phone from them.
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I call their bluff and will switch to Project Fi as soon as my contract is over :laugh: I think they have made enough off of me over the last decade.

QuillOmega0 said:
As for the bootloader, HAH. It's not going to get any easier to unlock, even more so that developers are turning to working on unlocking newer phones that are now in use; and AT&T certainly won't be unlocking it for us. They'd rather you buy a new phone from them.
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I understand it won't get easier. I just don't understand why it is so much more difficult than the S6 or S7. I would expect those models to be more resilient due to the fact that they are currently being much more supported by their manufacturers and carriers. Otherwise, why would they have changed things to make it easier to root and, therefor, less secure on the newer models? If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Either they are intentionally trying to give us easier root as an incentive to upgrade, which I doubt, or a root for the s5 should be doable because it isn't as ironclad as they want us to think.

Every American carrier has released Marshmallow except for good ol' AT&T...

morphfxf said:
Every American carrier has released Marshmallow except for good ol' AT&T...
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Wouldn't expect anything less. I remember on my windows phone back on the mango update they acted like they ere going to release it... then never did, luckily in that case I could side load it.
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it just got released for verizon yesterday..?

four loko said:
it just got released for verizon yesterday..?
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Verizon != Att
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AT&TGalaxy S5 Android version 6.0.1, Marshmallow Root

Is there a root solution for AT&T G900A Galaxy S5 on Android 6.0.1 Marshmallow?
Thanks

No, there is not

once again.
If you are looking for root, then you probably have the wrong phone. This phone is 2 and a half years old. Most of the developers have moved on to the newer phones, and are unwilling to work on a older phone where the root method is likely going to be specific to this device only.

Has anyone tried https://github.com/timwr/CVE-2016-5195 ?
There are more discussions on Dirty Cow at http://forum.xda-developers.com/general/security/dirty-cow-t3484879

Another potential to try us rowhammer: http://arstechnica.com/security/201...tflips-to-root-android-phones-is-now-a-thing/ and XDA thread for S6 http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-galaxy-s6/general/root-6-0-1-rowhammer-t3486691
Per that article, the APK that they want users to try and report on is: https://vvdveen.com/drammer/drammer.apk

The views on this thread shows am not alone

this kind of poor support makes me not want to buy another samsung phone -_- . its already 2.5 years old let me do what i want with it samsung

four loko said:
this kind of poor support makes me not want to buy another samsung phone -_- . its already 2.5 years old let me do what i want with it samsung
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wont be buying any at&t phones anymore.

four loko said:
this kind of poor support makes me not want to buy another samsung phone -_- . its already 2.5 years old let me do what i want with it samsung
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Its primarily the carrier that locks most things down especially the bootloader. Best bet is to save up and outright buy a "developers" version of a phone or the google pixel.

Take a look here:
http://tinyurl.com/j3rzy7g
It's now basically possible, just waiting for someone to make an executable/apk.

id donate $5-10 for root

Rumor has it the author of this code is not selling or accepting payments for it, and if he releases it, he's not going to charge for it either.

Rowhammer
Seems it is not working on my SM-G900A.

i am also waiting for root i still use this phone i got 3 of these and 3 note 3's old but good phones