Stupid questions regarding getting a new Samsung Galaxy S5 G900A (AT&T) - AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5

If I were to right now get the Samsung Galaxy S5 AT&T ( http://www.att.com/cellphones/samsung/galaxy-s-5.html#sku=sku7120234 ), is it known whether it will have a rootable version or not?
If I am unable to root the phone and keep it rooted, I'll most likely have to go with another phone. (Which would be a shame.)
I've read up some on the situation, and it seems as long as it is version 4.4.4 I would be fine.
And I would be able to update while keeping root if I follow this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/att...w-to-update-to-g900aof2-5-0-keeproot-t3149146
So, I suppose the real question is how sure is it that you'll get the 4.4.4 (rootable) version of android?
And are there any downsides to doing so right now?
(I have a rooted phone now: An HTC First. The failed "Facebook" phone. It was very easy to root and receives no updates, so it's been hassle free, but it'd be nice to finally update.)

I'm not sure if you are buying direct from AT&T or not, but I think it's been confirmed that they have only been selling S5s with 5.0 on them out of the box.
Root may come eventually for those who have factory Lollipop images on their S5s, but I wouldn't count on it. Unfortunately, the window for an easy root on a brand new AT&T branded S5 has closed.

How much are you willing to spend? I'd consider selling my almost mint condition rooted 5.0 GS5 for the right price. I just got it in the Spring and it's in fantastic shape.

Dark_Vortex said:
I'm not sure if you are buying direct from AT&T or not, but I think it's been confirmed that they have only been selling S5s with 5.0 on them out of the box.
Root may come eventually for those who have factory Lollipop images on their S5s, but I wouldn't count on it. Unfortunately, the window for an easy root on a brand new AT&T branded S5 has closed.
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Thanks for the reply. Going to look at other options, then.

slicetwo said:
How much are you willing to spend? I'd consider selling my almost mint condition rooted 5.0 GS5 for the right price. I just got it in the Spring and it's in fantastic shape.
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Well, I was going with this phone because it is 'free' with the existing contract.... Looking at the other 'free' options now.

Motok0 said:
Well, I was going with this phone because it is 'free' with the existing contract.... Looking at the other 'free' options now.
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If root is a deal breaker I suggest not getting the GS5 unless you are positive that you can get one with KitKat out of the box.
That being said...I have an unrootable one on AT&T that I got free for extending my contract; and I found that their 5.0 build for this phone is probably the most stable phone I've ever had on AT&T ever. Besides the battery and back cover nag alerts and not being able to save Amazon video to the SD card...I have no other complaints re: not having root. But even when I had devices that were rooted...they were stock-rooted. As always...YMMV.
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[Q] Cant root my 900A S5, what other options do I have to get a rooted phone?

AT&T force my S5 900A to update to Lollipop before I had a chance to Root it. It appears there is no available option for rooting a Lollipop 900A (I tried Odin and Towelroot). What other options are there to attain a rooted S5? Is there a way to prevent AT&T from updating a phone and thus removing the root?
Can I buy a rooted S5 900F off Ebay and it work on my network?
Can I buy an earlier version rooted S5 900A off Ebay and prevent AT&T from updating it and losing its root?
Can I upgrade to a rooted S6, although I am not sure if these phones have been rooted yet?
What is the newest Samsung Note that has been rooted I could buy?
I guess all this depends upon preventing AT&T from updating your phone and losing the root, how do I do this?
Thanks for any help!
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AT&T force my S5 900A to update to Lollipop before I had a chance to Root it. It appears there is no available option for rooting a Lollipop 900A (I tried Odin and Towelroot). What other options are there to attain a rooted S5? Is there a way to prevent AT&T from updating a phone and thus removing the root?
Can I buy a rooted S5 900F off Ebay and it work on my network?
Can I buy an earlier version rooted S5 900A off Ebay and prevent AT&T from updating it and losing its root?
Can I upgrade to a rooted S6, although I am not sure if these phones have been rooted yet?
What is the newest Samsung Note that has been rooted I could buy?
I guess all this depends upon preventing AT&T from updating your phone and losing the root, how do I do this?
Thanks for any help!
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Call att and tell them ur home button or speaker is messed up they will send u a phone and just hope that its running 4.4.4 , only thing is thos point in time we got 5.0 a couple months ago so u might get a phone with 5.0 on it. I had a speaker problem i was unrooted on 5.0 e every1 was telling me now im screwed because i cant root , i called att and told them about my problem and got an s5 4 days later running 4.4.4 i was rooted on the 5th day running 5.0. Its worth a shot!! Good luck
texastravis said:
AT&T force my S5 900A to update to Lollipop before I had a chance to Root it. It appears there is no available option for rooting a Lollipop 900A (I tried Odin and Towelroot). What other options are there to attain a rooted S5? Is there a way to prevent AT&T from updating a phone and thus removing the root?
Can I buy a rooted S5 900F off Ebay and it work on my network?
Can I buy an earlier version rooted S5 900A off Ebay and prevent AT&T from updating it and losing its root?
Can I upgrade to a rooted S6, although I am not sure if these phones have been rooted yet?
What is the newest Samsung Note that has been rooted I could buy?
I guess all this depends upon preventing AT&T from updating your phone and losing the root, how do I do this?
Thanks for any help!
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here are a couple links for you to read thru they may help you out.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=60012961&postcount=1
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=59994426&postcount=1
I periodically check the forums with the same question. Has it been determined that it will be PURELY IMPOSSIBLE to root an S5 that got bumped to OC4? Am I wasting my time even continuing to check? Just hard for me to believe Sammy finally defeated all the hackers with no options left........
Which is why I switched to HTC and *love* it. Leaving for the same reason I left Apple ages ago. When manufacturers get greedy and lock their loyal users out of doing ANYTHING, they go bye bye in my book. I also had a nice Samsung Gear S watch that was quickly returned once determined it would work with Sammy and only Sammy. Headed to the new universal Android Moto360 and can't wait. Hope the Koreans are listening to all this while their market share slowly dwindles. It's a shame, too, as they make some really quality products.
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Yes, send Samsung/ATT to Hell. No Way I purchase another one. They want to play like they own your phone. So let them own it by not purchasing another one.
The only reason I have an 900A is becouse was a gift. But I was lucky that was not 5.x crap.
Vol4Ever said:
Which is why I switched to HTC and *love* it. Leaving for the same reason I left Apple ages ago. When manufacturers get greedy and lock their loyal users out of doing ANYTHING, they go bye bye in my book. I also had a nice Samsung Gear S watch that was quickly returned once determined it would work with Sammy and only Sammy. Headed to the new universal Android Moto360 and can't wait. Hope the Koreans are listening to all this while their market share slowly dwindles. It's a shame, too, as they make some really quality products.
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Samsung going down = Korea's economy going down
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Vol4Ever said:
Which is why I switched to HTC and *love* it. Leaving for the same reason I left Apple ages ago. When manufacturers get greedy and lock their loyal users out of doing ANYTHING, they go bye bye in my book. I also had a nice Samsung Gear S watch that was quickly returned once determined it would work with Sammy and only Sammy. Headed to the new universal Android Moto360 and can't wait. Hope the Koreans are listening to all this while their market share slowly dwindles. It's a shame, too, as they make some really quality products.
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Did your accessories also transfer over?

[Q] Anything being done?

I have a galaxy s5 from AT&T that I got with a new two year contract. It has version 5.0 on it and came that way. I know that it's not rootable atm but just curious if there's anywhere with progress.
morgan5814 said:
I have a galaxy s5 from AT&T that I got with a new two year contract. It has version 5.0 on it and came that way. I know that it's not rootable atm but just curious if there's anywhere with progress.
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Please review the history of the site. Root is not root until it is root...meaning you cannot ask "are we there yet?" When full root is achieved it will be posted. Work is often done by developers off of XDA because it is the only way they can work uninterrupted. Any progress to get system access like some root methods that were lost upon reboot..cannot be determined whether or not you are close...until it is fully working and tested. The security of Lollipop, AT&T locked bootloaders and knox are a lot of hurdles to leap over.
Yes, however I think a better wording, with the s6 will there even be people bothering with it?
morgan5814 said:
Yes, however I think a better wording, with the s6 will there even be people bothering with it?
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I hope so. I'm in the same crowd of people that do not have to have the latest and greatest. The S6, while its an impressive device...without a replaceable battery....I just dont think it will have the staying power (pun intended) or durability for a device that a user might keep for a year or 2. The characteristics of the S6 itself (unfortunately) lends itself more to a throw-away device after its new and shiny wears out and the next iteration of the Galaxy line becomes available. There are ALOT of GS5s out there....and quite literally...ATT is giving them away.
Thats JMHO...YMMV.
morgan5814 said:
Yes, however I think a better wording, with the s6 will there even be people bothering with it?
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I think so. There are some things improved on the S6, but there are also some steps backward from what we have on the S5. I'm sure educated buyers will weigh those pros and cons very carefully and some buyers will decide that the S5 is better suited for their needs and tastes.
I personally know only one person who upgraded from an S5 to an S6 and he wants to go back to his S5.

Do you think the T-Mobile Note 5 will be able to be rooted?

I'm currently using the S6 Edge on T-Mo and haven't upgraded to 5.1.1 because I've read here that people have had issues with their device after rooting on 5.1.1. I did the Ping Pong method to root my S6 Edge, but apparently the loophole was patched in 5.1.1, which is why things got a little screwy? Pardon my noobness if any of my terminology is off...
Anyway, I heavily rely on Unlimited Tethering and it's pretty much the only reason I root these days.
With 5.1.1 patched, is there even a possibility of rooting the T-Mo variant of the Note 5 anytime soon? Or should I not even pre-order?
Thanks in advance for any guidance.
I am still on KK 4.4.4 and do you think I should stay or upgrade?
I luv my unlimited tethering. I am surfing on my Windows laptop unlimited.
I have no inside knowledge. Just years of running the rooting gauntlet with the phones listed in my sig. Odds are, yes, the Note 5 will be rooted. Samsung is arguably the most watched and targeted handset maker by developers. It's a prize that motivates. But there is no guarantee, and lollipop has shown some resistance to rooting.
Chainfire will have one soon
Even if CF Root breaks Samsung pay and trips Knox, I'm okay with it because I'm not a believer in consolidating all my card(s) into a device.
Even though there's supposed to be a different number that generates every time, my number is stored somewhere by someone else other than my credit card company and myself. I'm probably being naive, but I'm still too scared, lol.
Anyway, back on topic, if there's a root, I'll most definitely get the Note 5. If not, I have to consider either Moto X Pure Edition or bum an invite off of my friend with the One Plus Two.
Fingers crossed for Note 5 root!

Selling on Swappa, Should I unroot??

Just as the title says, I am looking to sell my verizon s6 edge on Swappa. I am undecided if I should take it back to stock or not before I list it. I feel like a huge amount of normal users may be scared away by the fact that it's rooted on oe2 with clean rom.
What do you guys think? I am wanting to get the 64 gig moto x pure so I can unlock the bootloader and have my way with it, so I think a $500 price for a mint phone would be fair, but I just don't want to scare away potential buyers.
Opinions??
jsminnis said:
Just as the title says, I am looking to sell my verizon s6 edge on Swappa. I am undecided if I should take it back to stock or not before I list it. I feel like a huge amount of normal users may be scared away by the fact that it's rooted on oe2 with clean rom.
What do you guys think? I am wanting to get the 64 gig moto x pure so I can unlock the bootloader and have my way with it, so I think a $500 price for a mint phone would be fair, but I just don't want to scare away potential buyers.
Opinions??
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~90% of users do not even know what root means.
If you sell the phone to one of those users the buyer will likely panic and ask why every update is failing to install.
Your smartest move would be to unroot through Odin.
If the buyer wants root he/she can root.
Snowby123 said:
~90% of users do not even know what root means.
If you sell the phone to one of those users the buyer will likely panic and ask why every update is failing to install.
Your smartest move would be to unroot through Odin.
If the buyer wants root he/she can root.
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Actually, they couldn't root, because the latest update doesn't allow it. I guess I just hate to unroot a phone and render it unrootable because rooting is at the core of my nature, lol. I just have to remember it won't be mine to tinker with anymore, haha
jsminnis said:
Actually, they couldn't root, because the latest update doesn't allow it. I guess I just hate to unroot a phone and render it unrootable because rooting is at the core of my nature, lol. I just have to remember it won't be mine to tinker with anymore, haha
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s6-edge/general/sm-g925f-s6-firmware-thread-t3078841
This thread gives the appropriate firmware used to unroot.
Every time I use it, I am able to root again.
It restores the phone to the original factory settings, the OC3 build.
OC3 obviously can be rooted.
Snowby123 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s6-edge/general/sm-g925f-s6-firmware-thread-t3078841
This thread gives the appropriate firmware used to unroot.
Every time I use it, I am able to root again.
It restores the phone to the original factory settings, the OC3 build.
OC3 obviously can be rooted.
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I got ya, that's a good Idea. I will just sell it on oc3. If they know what they are doing then they can take it from there.
jsminnis said:
I got ya, that's a good Idea. I will just sell it on oc3. If they know what they are doing then they can take it from there.
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I totally agree. At least keep it on the rootable firmware. Its a smaller percentage of people who root, but many of those people use swappa. Its even an option for your listing. I have myself bought an mdk s4 just because it was the only place I could find the last vzw Samsung device with an unlocked bootloader. I payed more for it too, after mine broke. I would imagine those interested in a rootable s6 edge would probably do the same.
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When I sold my galaxy s4 the person buying the device wanted it to remain rooted, and paid extra for it. It all depends on the buyer.
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Little late to the party, just picked one of these up

Called a bunch of stores within an hour of me before I found one that still had a brand new one in stock. Manufactured in April 2016 so hopefully no bootloop issues (fingers crossed). For the price... impossible to beat value wise. $4/mo more than one of the "mid level" offerings like the Galaxy J7 and annihilates those in all categories. Have a Diztronic TPU case and a PNY 128GB card arriving tomorrow for it, so far its been great. Was going to see about leaving it unrooted with all the bloat disabled/uninstalled but after having a rooted G2 for over 2 years and no ads... can't deal with the spam so I'll unlock/root it and go from there.
Also very cool to see so much support out there still for this thing. Hoping it lasts me as long as my G2 did. I did have a G3 briefly on VZW before I switched to T-Mo and that one was great too. Kind worried with the direction the G5 is going but anyway... Very happy.
Also the store that had this new G4 still had a new G3 as well... go figure. If they had a current price vs $400 not updated since 2015... I dunno lol. I paid $349 for this G4 which is a damn steal for what you get. I'll pass on the $700-$800 "flagships" because I don't need to render video for Pixar while playing Pokemon Go and telling someone they are wrong on facebook...
scottyd035ntknow said:
Called a bunch of stores within an hour of me before I found one that still had a brand new one in stock. Manufactured in April 2016 so hopefully no bootloop issues (fingers crossed). For the price... impossible to beat value wise. $4/mo more than one of the "mid level" offerings like the Galaxy J7 and annihilates those in all categories. Have a Diztronic TPU case and a PNY 128GB card arriving tomorrow for it, so far its been great. Was going to see about leaving it unrooted with all the bloat disabled/uninstalled but after having a rooted G2 for over 2 years and no ads... can't deal with the spam so I'll unlock/root it and go from there.
Also very cool to see so much support out there still for this thing. Hoping it lasts me as long as my G2 did. I did have a G3 briefly on VZW before I switched to T-Mo and that one was great too. Kind worried with the direction the G5 is going but anyway... Very happy.
Also the store that had this new G4 still had a new G3 as well... go figure. If they had a current price vs $400 not updated since 2015... I dunno lol. I paid $349 for this G4 which is a damn steal for what you get. I'll pass on the $700-$800 "flagships" because I don't need to render video for Pixar while playing Pokemon Go and telling someone they are wrong on facebook...
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Glad you got one. It's a great phone. Next time, stop by swappa.com/buy/lg-g4-tmobile. You can get a like new device for a greatly cheaper price. And if you have the replacement insurance through T-Mo like I do, 3rd party sold phones like these are covered 100%. Been doing this for the past 3 years now.
Will def check that site out thanks. But... After having used phones I'll do the new thing when I can. I have half a mind to pick that new G3 up as a spare or a gift or something.
But this is easily the best phone I have had except for maybe my Vzw G2 before someone walked off with it... No idea but that phone FLEW...
Got the Tpu case in just now (Diztronic like always) and the PNY card. Time to root and load up the music etc... Also ordered a Qi charging sticker for charging. Really really really hoping this thing stays solid and does not suffer from bootloops...
Edit... Rofl they do indeed want $400 for that G3... I paid $349 for this G4...
Great phone
Love this phone, got it two months ago for $250 brand new after haggling with customer care. Came from the Samsung S5 and it's quite a step up, I'm rooted using latest version of Turbo's Enterprise rom and it's night and day from stock.
Congrats on the purchase.
Yeah I just rooted tonight without incident. Still deciding if I want to go with a rom or not. Phone is fast as hell as is, I've got ads blocked, bloat disabled/uninstalled and I get 7GB a month of tethering for free from T-Mo already... Mainly rooted to get rid of the ads.
scottyd035ntknow said:
Yeah I just rooted tonight without incident. Still deciding if I want to go with a rom or not. Phone is fast as hell as is, I've got ads blocked, bloat disabled/uninstalled and I get 7GB a month of tethering for free from T-Mo already... Mainly rooted to get rid of the ads.
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Just so you know once you root you will have a hard time getting the phone sim unlocked if you need too.i have been going round and round with tmo the last 3 days trying to get mine sim unlocked.also they know every app on your phone as they told me i had to unistall one of the apps i had.
gillim74 said:
Just so you know once you root you will have a hard time getting the phone sim unlocked if you need too.i have been going round and round with tmo the last 3 days trying to get mine sim unlocked.also they know every app on your phone as they told me i had to unistall one of the apps i had.
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Don't need it. Probably won't even Rom it.
what rooting method did you use?
Insurance
demoncamber said:
Glad you got one. It's a great phone. Next time, stop by swappa.com/buy/lg-g4-tmobile. You can get a like new device for a greatly cheaper price. And if you have the replacement insurance through T-Mo like I do, 3rd party sold phones like these are covered 100%. Been doing this for the past 3 years now.
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Hi Are you talking about JUMP? Because I didn't know that you can apply it to third-party phones. If it is not can you let me know, Thank you.
gillim74 said:
Just so you know once you root you will have a hard time getting the phone sim unlocked if you need too.i have been going round and round with tmo the last 3 days trying to get mine sim unlocked.also they know every app on your phone as they told me i had to unistall one of the apps i had.
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This is completely false. I've sim unlocked easily while bootloader unlocked and rooted. Just be stock based, not cm, and you'll be fine. I used the tmo sim unlock app right after I met the requirements and sim unlocked easily. I restored to cm immediately afterwards.
I recommend making a backup and flashing micro's stock zip build and trying the sim unlock app. If you're still having issues, check if you meet tmo's sim unlock requirements. (device paid off, device on the account long enough, enough payments have been made if prepaid.)
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This is completely false. I've sim unlocked easily while bootloader unlocked and rooted. Just be stock based, not cm, and you'll be fine. I used the tmo sim unlock app right after I met the requirements and sim unlocked easily. I restored to cm immediately afterwards.
I recommend making a backup and flashing micro's stock zip build and trying the sim unlock app. If you're still having issues, check if you meet tmo's sim unlock requirements. (device paid off, device on the account long enough, enough payments have been made if prepaid.)
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Mine wouldnt work and i got so fed up i sold the phone and switched carriers.tmobo lied to me over and over

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