AT&T S6 Active vs Edge - Active wins - AT&T Samsung Galaxy S6

I bought the Edge two months ago. Gave it a spin, got back from a canoe trip on the Buffalo River and exchanged it for the Active on the day the Active dropped.
So now I've had a month with each device.
Gotta say, as sexy as the Edge is... it's just too delicate. I felt like I might crack the screen if I stared at it hard enough.
The "Edge" features were cool but not so killer that I had to have them, kinda kitchy at best.
The Edge is gorgeous so putting it into a case was a crime.
Performance, camera, all that... awesome.
Memory leak issue caused the phone to be laggy but everyone's had that issue.
Rooting and Greenifying it took care of that.
Additionally, holding the Edge sans case in my hand, the edges are perceived as "sharp", just couldn't get used to the thin-ness (I know, weird).
The Active is light but solid in the hand.
The case (dark blue camo) has grown on me.
Having had the previous versions of the Galaxy, the buttons are fine and I do appreciate the "Active" button for short and long press access to key apps. Although, sometimes it triggers while in my pocket and starts my music app.
Performance is rock solid, quick and and since the OF3 update last week, not having the memory issues like before. I don't think this is completely resolved but it does seem much more responsive and not lagging after a few days of use.
It's water-resistant and that comes in real handy - I've now used it when I'm running (covered in sweat), trout fishing (slimy hands) or canoeing (splashed with water while taking photos!) without any concerns or issues.
Camera is so awesome, fast and responsive unlike any of the Galaxy S predecessors.
And the selfie cam's higher resolution is appreciated.
I do have the issue with the case "clicking" on the edges.
Now, if we can just get root, this will be as perfect a phone as you can get.
My two cents. Anyone else tried them both?

Package disabler is a pretty good compromise for not having root. Allows you to disable pretty much anything, no root required.AoN

I have tried both. And I agree the s6 edge is so sexy (especially in platinum) I do miss the fingerprint reader and the bottom facing speaker. BUT IMO the active is so much better. I got the all black version (the other colors were a bit too much for me even after owning the platinum s6 edge lol) the active feels so sturdy in the hand and isn't too bad looking. I love love love the water resistance, I've already taken a shower with it lol. I've still got the edge but found out it was financed so I'm working on getting my money back now.

Package Disabler from OSPolice - waaaay cool my friend, thank you for suggesting.
The few items I manually deleted plus the latest update and this big battery is giving me fantastic battery life.
I just ran Package Disabler and selected "all bloatware" and disabled 87 apps. Then I re-enableed the four or five apps I actually use.
Looking forward to even better results.
Thanks!
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I have the blue came. The dark color is sharp and you cannot really see the camo until you hold it up close.
Listening to podcasts in a steamy shower toasted my first galaxy III. This Active handles it with no problem.
And I've dropped this thing a half do, enjoy times where I'm sure an earlier version or an uncased Edge would have show damage.
I'm officially an Active fan!
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Just do not disable the Samsung account manager.

I see a Samsung Account. Is that the one? What does it do? I'm not using the Samsung account, I don't think. I do have s-health on so maybe I need that. Appreciate your input!
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Yes that's the one, it allows access to all the Samsung content (theme store, Samsung app store). If you disable it, the only way to reactivate it is to factory reset the phone.

Package disabler is the shiz for unrooted devices!!
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Anyone gotta link to download package disabler???

gregk232 said:
Anyone gotta link to download package disabler???
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ospolice.packagedisablerpro&hl=en

Google play store. It's a dollar fifty five for the paid version. AoN

Am I crazy or did it get pulled from the play store? I can't seem to find it, even using the above link.

Not sure, searching doesn't bring it up, but it's still listed (and installable) under my apps. AoN

The free version seems to be gone. But the link above still works. (At least for me.)

timdsmith72 said:
The free version seems to be gone. But the link above still works. (At least for me.)
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It doesnt work for me either...
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DigitalUnderground said:
It doesnt work for me either...
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Huh. Maybe it did get pulled then.

I emailed the developers OSPolice and got a reply saying that the app will be available for purchase next week in the Play store. :good:

Package disabler still wouldn't disable my arch nemesis, att address book. Anyone else figure out how to kill that garbage?
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robstunner said:
Package disabler still wouldn't disable my arch nemesis, att address book. Anyone else figure out how to kill that garbage?
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As far as I can see disabling Sync (This has the same icon than the AT&T Address Book) has stopped the annoying AT&T Address Book windows while opening the Contacts App.

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Dump my Note 3?

Hey guys, so I'm sitting on my $150 promo code while I consider dumping my Note 3 for a Moto X. Good idea?
I also have a couple questions. Do the active notifications keep breathing until you attend to them or does it stop breathing after a while? I heavily rely on the notification light on my Note 3 so I hope it keeps breathing.
My other question....I am on at&t. Can I root the phone?
Thanks!
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WizeGuyDezignz said:
Hey guys, so I'm sitting on my $150 promo code while I consider dumping my Note 3 for a Moto X. Good idea?
I also have a couple questions. Do the active notifications keep breathing until you attend to them or does it stop breathing after a while? I heavily rely on the notification light on my Note 3 so I hope it keeps breathing.
My other question....I am on at&t. Can I root the phone?
Thanks!
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I think you need to ask yourself what dont you like about the Note 3. Also, why not just go and try the phone at any AT&T store?
As for rooting, yes, an AT&T phone can be rooted (I have the AT&T model myself) and yes, the notification keeps breathing until you either a. Unlock the phone, b. read the notification or c. dismiss it
anirudh412 said:
As for rooting, yes, an AT&T phone can be rooted (I have the AT&T model myself) and yes, the notification keeps breathing until you either a. Unlock the phone, b. read the notification or c. dismiss it
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It is very difficult to root. Pretty complicated and not for any but the most experienced, IMO.
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anirudh412 said:
I think you need to ask yourself what dont you like about the Note 3. Also, why not just go and try the phone at any AT&T store?
As for rooting, yes, an AT&T phone can be rooted (I have the AT&T model myself) and yes, the notification keeps breathing until you either a. Unlock the phone, b. read the notification or c. dismiss it
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Thanks for the input. The size of the Note 3 bugs me a little bit and the horrible wifi reception are my two main reasons. I went and played with the Moto X today and I was digging it.
Cubfan99 said:
It is very difficult to root. Pretty complicated and not for any but the most experienced, IMO.
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Oh yeah? How hard are we talking? I'm a pretty seasoned android user. Can you link me to the process?
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WizeGuyDezignz said:
Thanks for the input. The size of the Note 3 bugs me a little bit and the horrible wifi reception are my two main reasons. I went and played with the Moto X today and I was digging it.
Oh yeah? How hard are we talking? I'm a pretty seasoned android user. Can you link me to the process?
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Its in the original android development. There are two posts. One is for 4.2.2 and the most recent 4.4.
There is a 3rd one but your phone will probably not be on 4.1.
It is not hard.....I don't know squat and was able to nail it. Just follow the instructions to a T and you'll he fine.
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WizeGuyDezignz said:
Hey guys, so I'm sitting on my $150 promo code while I consider dumping my Note 3 for a Moto X. Good idea?
I also have a couple questions. Do the active notifications keep breathing until you attend to them or does it stop breathing after a while? I heavily rely on the notification light on my Note 3 so I hope it keeps breathing.
My other question....I am on at&t. Can I root the phone?
Thanks!
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My wife has a note and I have an X. My first inclination is to say they are vastly different phones. I assume you are looking at the overall experience and not so much the cost of the phone.
If the losing the larger screen isn't a deal-breaker for you, then it's not a bad move as long as you are OK with what you are giving up. For multimedia, streaming and all the S-pen "jazz" it's a great device, it really is. I tend to think of the X a little more like a workhorse. Day in and day out it just keeps knocking it out of the park for normal, everyday tasks. Lesser specs, yes, but with all the optimizations it is smooth as butter across the board. In all the years I've had smartphones, I've *never* had one I trust to get me through the day until now (I work until midnight some times and don't always have convenient access to a charger).
I think you'll love the notifications on the X. They keep going as long as you have unaddressed notifications. From that screen you can dismiss them, jump straight into the app the notification is from or just unlock the phone. It's fantastic for dealing with a multitude of work emails, or other things like that.
Cubfan99 said:
It is very difficult to root. Pretty complicated and not for any but the most experienced, IMO.
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Actually all it needs you to do, is go through all pages in the thread. Every single problem has been addressed. And if that's still too complicated, one can always stay on 4.2.2 (Camera OTA) and use the One Click RockMyMoto
I recently sold my Note 3 to pick up a Moto X. I ended up getting a white TMO 16GB Moto X on Cyber Monday that I've had since last Wed. The primary reason that I wanted to get rid of the Note 3 was the overall size. I'm a pretty big dude (6'5 280) so I've got pretty large hands and it still was too much phone to deal with on a daily basis. My hand would literally start hurting/cramping and having a burning sensation all through my knuckles and that gradually worked it's way down my arm. So I got fed up and decided to get rid of it on Craigslist. I will say that the screen quality, expandable storage and battery life on the N3 are the primary things that I missed initially. What I don't miss is the fire burning in my hand and forearm that I felt everyday using it.
So now that I've had my Moto X for a few days now I can say without any doubt that I made the right decision to switch. The ice storm here in Dallas has afforded me the opportunity to have three solid days of quality time with this awesome phone.
Here are some specific points:
The in hand feel is fantastic and I haven't experienced any discomfort at all. The build quality and fit and finish are top notch as well. The N3 just feels cheap and fragile compared to it. It also has a great weight to it that makes it feel very solid. I'm not scared to drop this phone and have it shatter into a million pieces. Even still I ended up ordering a case for it to preserve its pristine condition.
I will definitely say that the difference in screen resolution isn't nearly as noticeable as I thought that it was going to be. The screen on the Moto X is very sharp an vibrant while being extremely responsive. Very deep blacks and somewhat warm whites. The colors absolutely pop with vivid contrast. I can't complain at all about the screen.
The battery life on the N3 was simply insane. The best screen on time that I ever got was right at 8hrs. It was a beast when it came to battery life. That being said I can pull down 5:30-6hrs screen on time with my Moto X. So I can definitely notice a difference but it's not a deal breaker for me. I can live with the battery life that I'm getting with the Moto X. Plus it charges crazy fast.
Expandable memory is probably the biggest issue that I've had. I opted for the 16GB version with the intent of utilizing the 200GBs of cloud storage that I have at my disposal. I've also stopped keeping music stored on my device and use streaming services like Play Music All Access, Spotify and Google Drive via the Beat app. It's been mostly painless but there was some adjusting initially. I had a 32GB N3 with a 64GB SD which is a ton of local storage. Believe it or not I just had to slightly adjust what apps and games to install instead of just installing everything. It has actually had the added bonus of streamlining and focusing my gaming attention. Now I'm having to play a game and beat it to get to the next one. I tend to try and look at the positive side of things.
Now lets get to the best aspect of the Moto X and that's the Motorola software tweaks onboard. I don't know how I ever lived without Active Notifications. It's such an elegant and logical way to handle notifications that it should just be baked into Android. I love that I can just glance over to see quickly what it is without touching my device. Then if I want to get more info I can just press the icon and it displays more detail. Then if I want to address it just swipe up to jump directly respond to it. Simply fantastic! I also like that if I just want to see the time or use my device it knows that I've picked it up and lights up the Active Notifications screen.
I've only recently started using Moto Assist so I can't comment in depth but I can say that its been very useful thus far.
Always listening is also insanely awesome and more useful than I'd imagined. I've never really used voice controls on a phone before simply because they've never been very intuitive or useful. What the Moto X has to offer is completely different beast all together. I've started using it more lately and its really amazing software to have at your disposal. I love that if I want to do a Google search or play some music or respond to a text I can hands free with there simple words... Ok Google Now.
I know... I know, TL; DR.
Bottom Line:
The Moto X is an amazing device out the box and only continually gets better and more useful the more you use it. I don't miss my Note 3 at all. Not even a little bit and now look back on it and think how I ever went without these features. I highly recommend this device and love that I've already got Kit Kat running on it. It makes me excited to see what's next as far as updates and tweaks are concerned.
I hope this somewhat helps someone who is on the fence.
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I moved to the Moto X from the Note 3, no regrets at all. I hated Touchwiz. I do miss the SD slot a bit, but I'll live. The active notifications make up for it though, I freaking love them.
tnt118 said:
My wife has a note and I have an X. My first inclination is to say they are vastly different phones. I assume you are looking at the overall experience and not so much the cost of the phone.
If the losing the larger screen isn't a deal-breaker for you, then it's not a bad move as long as you are OK with what you are giving up. For multimedia, streaming and all the S-pen "jazz" it's a great device, it really is. I tend to think of the X a little more like a workhorse. Day in and day out it just keeps knocking it out of the park for normal, everyday tasks. Lesser specs, yes, but with all the optimizations it is smooth as butter across the board. In all the years I've had smartphones, I've *never* had one I trust to get me through the day until now (I work until midnight some times and don't always have convenient access to a charger).
I think you'll love the notifications on the X. They keep going as long as you have unaddressed notifications. From that screen you can dismiss them, jump straight into the app the notification is from or just unlock the phone. It's fantastic for dealing with a multitude of work emails, or other things like that.
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Thanks a lot for the feedback! It's funny because the active notifications are the #1 thing that I'm most excited about.
For some reason I'm a notification junkie. I really rely on them to the point where I won't even consider a phone without at least an led notification light. As a matter of fact, I passed on the HTC One because you simply can barely see that tiny pinhole light that it has.
calmlydefyinglogic said:
I recently sold my Note 3 to pick up a Moto X. I ended up getting a white TMO 16GB Moto X on Cyber Monday that I've had since last Wed. The primary reason that I wanted to get rid of the Note 3 was the overall size. I'm a pretty big dude (6'5 280) so I've got pretty large hands and it still was too much phone to deal with on a daily basis. My hand would literally start hurting/cramping and having a burning sensation all through my knuckles and that gradually worked it's way down my arm. So I got fed up and decided to get rid of it on Craigslist. I will say that the screen quality, expandable storage and battery life on the N3 are the primary things that I missed initially. What I don't miss is the fire burning in my hand and forearm that I felt everyday using it.
So now that I've had my Moto X for a few days now I can say without any doubt that I made the right decision to switch. The ice storm here in Dallas has afforded me the opportunity to have three solid days of quality time with this awesome phone.
Here are some specific points:
The in hand feel is fantastic and I haven't experienced any discomfort at all. The build quality and fit and finish are top notch as well. The N3 just feels cheap and fragile compared to it. It also has a great weight to it that makes it feel very solid. I'm not scared to drop this phone and have it shatter into a million pieces. Even still I ended up ordering a case for it to preserve its pristine condition.
I will definitely say that the difference in screen resolution isn't nearly as noticeable as I thought that it was going to be. The screen on the Moto X is very sharp an vibrant while being extremely responsive. Very deep blacks and somewhat warm whites. The colors absolutely pop with vivid contrast. I can't complain at all about the screen.
The battery life on the N3 was simply insane. The best screen on time that I ever got was right at 8hrs. It was a beast when it came to battery life. That being said I can pull down 5:30-6hrs screen on time with my Moto X. So I can definitely notice a difference but it's not a deal breaker for me. I can live with the battery life that I'm getting with the Moto X. Plus it charges crazy fast.
Expandable memory is probably the biggest issue that I've had. I opted for the 16GB version with the intent of utilizing the 200GBs of cloud storage that I have at my disposal. I've also stopped keeping music stored on my device and use streaming services like Play Music All Access, Spotify and Google Drive via the Beat app. It's been mostly painless but there was some adjusting initially. I had a 32GB N3 with a 64GB SD which is a ton of local storage. Believe it or not I just had to slightly adjust what apps and games to install instead of just installing everything. It has actually had the added bonus of streamlining and focusing my gaming attention. Now I'm having to play a game and beat it to get to the next one. I tend to try and look at the positive side of things.
Now lets get to the best aspect of the Moto X and that's the Motorola software tweaks onboard. I don't know how I ever lived without Active Notifications. It's such an elegant and logical way to handle notifications that it should just be baked into Android. I love that I can just glance over to see quickly what it is without touching my device. Then if I want to get more info I can just press the icon and it displays more detail. Then if I want to address it just swipe up to jump directly respond to it. Simply fantastic! I also like that if I just want to see the time or use my device it knows that I've picked it up and lights up the Active Notifications screen.
I've only recently started using Moto Assist so I can't comment in depth but I can say that its been very useful thus far.
Always listening is also insanely awesome and more useful than I'd imagined. I've never really used voice controls on a phone before simply because they've never been very intuitive or useful. What the Moto X has to offer is completely different beast all together. I've started using it more lately and its really amazing software to have at your disposal. I love that if I want to do a Google search or play some music or respond to a text I can hands free with there simple words... Ok Google Now.
I know... I know, TL; DR.
Bottom Line:
The Moto X is an amazing device out the box and only continually gets better and more useful the more you use it. I don't miss my Note 3 at all. Not even a little bit and now look back on it and think how I ever went without these features. I highly recommend this device and love that I've already got Kit Kat running on it. It makes me excited to see what's next as far as updates and tweaks are concerned.
I hope this somewhat helps someone who is on the fence.
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Thanks a lot for the detailed info! It was very helpful. Yeah I think I'm really ready for a smaller phone that I can use one handed and feels comfortable in the hand.
Like you said, I'm sure I'll miss the battery life of the Note 3, but I will be ok if I can get 4-5 hours of screen on time.
I'm very curious to see if I will miss any of the Touchwiz features or stock apps. I've owned mostly Samsung phones in the past so it will be interesting to see how well or if I will want to adjust.
I am honestly keeping my expectations very realistic and subdued. I am thinking of this as a 30 day test and rental at worst. I checked and I guess California gets a 30 day return policy rather than the normal 14 day policy which is odd, but I will take it lol.
I see 3 possible conclusions here:
1. I love the phone enough to make it a daily driver and dump my Note 3 and probably make a little money in the process since I got the Moto X for $350.
2. I like the phone enough to keep it but I still prefer my Note 3 as my daily driver and keep the Moto X as a backup phone.
3. I like the phone or just think it's ok but can't find a reason to even keep it as a backup and I return it for a full refund.
As you can see it's no risk for me and a win-win situation.
Thanks again for the input!
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Would you still get the Gear?

as the title says, would you buy again a gear today? or in the end it was an awful choice?
It would be an awful choice if I couldn't use Null ROM. But then on the other hand, all other smart watches currently released have way too limited functionality for what I would like SW to do.
So, stock Gear? Give me my money back.
Null ROM? I keep my gear.
Jerry69 said:
as the title says, would you buy again a gear today? or in the end it was an awful choice?
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GEAR = Worst + Expensive + To be not called a Gadget....
Yes. Although I did return my Galaxy Gear after Christmas to wait for the Gear 2. I'll be buying the Gear 2 over the Galaxy Gear. I think the watch is handy, especially when the Note 3 is in my pocket. I'm not looking for a toy or something to replace my Note 3, so I am satisfied with stock.
I would think this question would be better asked in the Gear General section but,
Yes, stock it is expensive crap. Null makes it amazing!
The bottom line is buy old Galaxy Gear for cheap or buy new Gear 2.... and that really depends on your $$$ and if Tizen is as unrestrictive as they are claiming it will be. So either way your good but rooting it is a must, and getting Null on it is key.
I sure would get it again!
I love my gear with null rom as it sits today. If I were in the market to buy a smart watch I would just wait til the NeptunePine is released.
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hurdlejade said:
It would be an awful choice if I couldn't use Null ROM. But then on the other hand, all other smart watches currently released have way too limited functionality for what I would like SW to do.
So, stock Gear? Give me my money back.
Null ROM? I keep my gear.
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I agree! If the gg 2 is at the right price I may purchase, but the asking price for the gg was too much. I luckily picked mine up for half the price from a mate that got it free with his note 3.
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AndiF85 said:
I agree! If the gg 2 is at the right price I may purchase, but the asking price for the gg was too much. I luckily picked mine up for half the price from a mate that got it free with his note 3.
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This.
I own the Sony smartwatch 2. It is quite good with the stock. I just purchased the gear 1 at a bargain price in France to test it (60€!) And will root and install null ROM as a start.
From the Galaxy
I would buy it again. Cause it's even cheaper ^^ i have the hope that it will be possible to bring Samsungs Ultrapowersaving mode onto the gear. This is the only concearn i have about it...Batterydrain. Currently it runs on 2 cores 400mHz-1100mHz...still laggy sometimes...which annoyes cause of the clock syncing...
But i like this little thing...
GG2 is a no go with Tizen as long as i am not sure about the possibilities...
No.
In the previous year I had the Sony Smartwatch. After 2 weeks of continuous use, and serious effort to make the best of it, I stopped using it. I was disappointed mostly with the dim display which made it hard to use outside.
Last fall I got the Galaxy Gear, just weeks after it was available. Again, I made a concerted effort to use it and make the most of its functionality. But after a few weeks, again I stopped using it. My disappointment was:
MAJOR FAILINGS
- Bluetooth connection often fails when running outside (wanting to track performance on Runtastic app).
- Buggy (notification of missed calls)
POOR DESIGN
- Not adequately weather proof.
- Short battery life.
- Noisy when taking camera photo.
POOR FUTURE
- Very few third party apps. Evidence of now future apps being developed.
- Don't like that third party apps often use lots of resources on Note-3 phone.
I won't upgrade to the Galaxy Gear 2 either - since I have lots confidence in this type of device (smart watch).
Skeleton said:
POOR DESIGN
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Curios to me that so many people does not like the design i like it. But Gear 2 is better. Except for the removed lock key and the removed screws...
Skeleton said:
- Noisy when taking camera photo.
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Nope not with Null rom. Photo taking is quiet.
Blame the government fot the sound.
Skeleton said:
POOR FUTURE
- Very few third party apps. Evidence of now future apps being developed.
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But other smartwatches use android. Devs developing apps for them? or not? In future Smartwatches will a normal thing. if the android smartwatch itself grows. The Galaxy Gear with android grows too...
Skeleton said:
I won't upgrade to the Galaxy Gear 2 either - since I have lots confidence in this type of device (smart watch).
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I hope Tizen fails and they will bring back an Android Gear with the Note 4...Tizen makes this a nogo for me. Because of the compatibility to android...for the moment...
Bell Canada drops price of Galaxy Gear Smartwatch to $99 (Clearance)
'Nuff said!
Be Well,
DrNicket
Taizen will and feel like Touchwiz. This way the regular consumer will not notice the engine underneath. The same will likely happen to phones down the road as samsung wants to have control of their own ecosystem. Soon many more apps will appear on the samsung app store that mimics thier android counterpart and the majority of users will not notice they are using tizen, nor will they care as long as they have the 'samsung experience'
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I think the Gear is great fun. It's not meant to be a fancy mini phone which I think too many people think it is/should be.
However, I just put Null on last night and either Iäm really missing something or I just don't get it. But. I prefer stock. It's fussy, trying to be a tiny phone which is pointless and it destroys battery. Stock up to 4 day usually 3 days and recharge at 20% or so, Null, less than 1 day, barely touched the watch, 20% after 18 hours. Rubbish! Only thing it has gained for me is the ability to see Facebook messenger (technically, as message received today didn't show) although you can't reply which kinda makes it pointless, and also Gmail, but again can't reply so kinda pointless. Unless reading around, I find something that everyone else is getting excited about Null, iäm flashing stick back. I way prefer the simple look of it too.
So for me, stock GG is great, but buy of eBay or something cause 300 is way too much
Clarky78 said:
I think the Gear is great fun. It's not meant to be a fancy mini phone which I think too many people think it is/should be.
However, I just put Null on last night and either Iäm really missing something or I just don't get it. But. I prefer stock. It's fussy, trying to be a tiny phone which is pointless and it destroys battery. Stock up to 4 day usually 3 days and recharge at 20% or so, Null, less than 1 day, barely touched the watch, 20% after 18 hours. Rubbish! Only thing it has gained for me is the ability to see Facebook messenger (technically, as message received today didn't show) although you can't reply which kinda makes it pointless, and also Gmail, but again can't reply so kinda pointless. Unless reading around, I find something that everyone else is getting excited about Null, iäm flashing stick back. I way prefer the simple look of it too.
So for me, stock GG is great, but buy of eBay or something cause 300 is way too much
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I think you are missing the whole point of null ROM...do a little of homework
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Just picked up a GG for £125 in o2, so far quite impressed, not blown away, but by the time I can upgrade (Galaxy note 4,5?), hopefully the third iteration will be kicking about, it's brilliant as a media remote (as beats don't allow for volume up /down etc. ) feedly is fun to.
All in all, yes I think I would by another iteration of the GG.
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HTC One M8 complaint thread.

I figure I make one thread where we all can voice our possible dislikes with this phone without having to create multiple threads with different complaints.
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Why make a complaint thread?? If you don't like a phone get another one.
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I love this phone. But you know with every great new device there's something to complain about. So why not just talk about it? Like I would of loved the settings button to be on the bottom rather than pulling down the top bar.
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not being able to use data while on a call is my only complaint. great phone other than that
smooth703 said:
not being able to use data while on a call is my only complaint. great phone other than that
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That's definitely sucks. Unfortunately that's something we going have to get use to.
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Complaints:
* The M8's screen is almost impossible to see when wearing polarized sunglasses. This problem is only when you hold the phone in portrait mode. In landscape mode it looks fine. This is a common problem with LCD screens, but there are steps HTC could have taken to eliminate it, such as using a 45 degree extinction angle, or using a compensating film.
* Button placement: I do not like M8's button placement. I find it hard to turn the phone on or off without inadvertently pressing one of the volume buttons. I greatly prefer M7's recessed volume rocker to M8's non-recessed rocker.
* THIS MAY BE FIXED WITH THE NEW RADIO FIRMWARE IN THE 1.54 UPDATE: My biggest complaint is the fact that the phone often takes over an hour to connect to LTE even when there is a STRONG signal.
My complaints:
1. The power button being on the top of such a large phone is pretty annoying. I came from the GS3, which had the lovely side power button. This is something that I will get used to though. It'd be nice if they made a gesture to lock the phone too.
2. Since the latest update, my mobile signal has been poor. Where I used to get LTE, I now get 3G only. My wifi signal is fantastic compared to the GS3, but the mobile internet is looking rough. If I don't see improvement, I may need to replace the phone to see if it can get better.
Everything else is just incredible. Even with these complaints, I freaking love this phone!
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not being able to use data while on a call is my only complaint. great phone other than that
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IDK, I can use call+data on 3/4G, it's just not supposed to be possible on spark, which I don't have in my area
hazmad said:
IDK, I can use call+data on 3/4G, it's just not supposed to be possible on spark, which I don't have in my area
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i dont think we have spark in virginia still cant do both
hazmad said:
IDK, I can use call+data on 3/4G, it's just not supposed to be possible on spark, which I don't have in my area
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No you can't.
Only way that's possible is if you're on wifi (obviously).
Here are mine, which I'm sure others have mentioned.
1) Size; I actually prefer the size of the M7 over this. It's hard to reach the power button as someone mentioned and the phone is very hard to hold without a case because it's slippery. It almost feels like I'm holding a gigantic EVO LTE. The m7 felt right in my hands. I was surprised because most of the reviews mentioned that it was easier to hold than the m7 due to the curved back. Using it with one hand is pretty tough because I'm so afraid I'm going to drop it.
2) The Gun Metal Gray definitely scratches very easy. I have a small scratch on the back of my phone already and I'm not quite sure how I got it since I baby my phone like my own kid. i was actually going to wait out for the silver version, but with Bestbuy price matching Amazon in conjunction with their $50 instant credit for people who registered their numbers, I felt like I needed to jump on it for $100.
3) Loss of data randomly (never happened on my M7); I understand there is only one antenna and Spark phones rely on CSFB and that it will eventually be fixed.
No other complaints other than those 3. Love the SD Card, Boomsound Speakers, Camera (Yes I do) and the amazing battery life. I no longer have to worry about running out of juice for the entire day.
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No you can't.
Only way that's possible is if you're on wifi (obviously).
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Ya, you're right I can't do it on this phone, could do it on my old one though
Apparently unlocking the bootloader prevents you from redeeming the Google Drive bonus. I still bought the device so why no freebie?
Still glad to be s off though.
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I'm very tempted to buy this phone on my upgrade but I know that I do not want to cover it up with a case. My hands are rather grippy on smooth surfaces so I find the gunmetal gray to have a perfect finish. What I want to know is how scuffable the finish is on this phone. I only ever keep it in an empty clean pocket or laying back-down on my desk which is usually clean. Will I have an issue with tiny scratches accumulating in the clearcoat?
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I've gotten a couple light scratches and I baby my phone. Not sure how I got them. Never had a problem on the back of the m7.
Anyone else's earpiece crackle during a call or when listening to music? I've been through 2 of them that have been that way. Not sure if its supposed to be this way or what. It's not on the bottom speaker, just the top one.
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I ****ing loathe the bootsound with a passion
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My Observations
I got this phone as a precursor to replace my 5S, if the iPhone 6 doesn't have a 5" screen. I've only had it one day so far my observations are:
The phone takes a long time to load web pages and play youtube videos
The placement of the buttons is a bit awkward.
The Knock feature doesn't work all the time, nor do the swipe to unlock.
I must've gotten a factory defect, the screen is starting to come off in the upper right hand corner where the front camera sits. How that happened? I couldn't tell you.
I have the Sprint Spark Icon in the notification bar (Spark is in Orlando) but the switch between networks is sometimes slow.
Sometimes to get rid of notifications, I have to reboot the phone. Some icons will stay in the notification area even after the app is closed or I clear it.
Coming over from iOS, not being able to quick scroll to the top of a page is frustrating to say the least. The only place that works is in Blinkfeed, which is pretty cool, IMO, thus far.
Twitter apps for Android suck (can't knock the phone for that though.)
I hate the loud beep you get in your ear when ending a call if you're wearing a Bluetooth.
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My only gripe is the stupid HTC in a space not used for anything else. If we are dropping capacitive buttons, give us more screen in that spot... not a space for logo.
chemjb said:
I ****ing loathe the bootsound with a passion
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What's wrong with it
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Got GS6 Active

Just picked up my GS6 Active. I held out due to the smaller battery in the GS6. Coming from a GS2 rooted running pure CM, this thing is filled with bloat. Anyone else get one?
Anyway to root this thing to install TiBkup and freeze the bloat?
Considering it just came out today, I'm going to go out on a limb and say no.
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You need to be like me and rush out and get one. Since I was on a 4 year old GS2, I couldn't wait any longer.
Jackal2001-
I'm in the same boat; since the GS2 (which I'm still using), this is the first Galaxy S* that's made me want to upgrade. I'm going to (try to) hold off for a week or so though, and see what people's experiences are.
AoN.
I actually skipped the Active this year on purpose. I Just ended up getting a 64GB S6 and putting it in a case. I came from an AT&T S4 Active (SGH-i537) and was disappointed by how restricted it was and how difficult it was to find support in the development community. I waited to get an S6 until a couple weeks ago, until I was sure it was rootable and flashfire was working.
I also didn't want to give up the fingerprint sensor which was a feature that was very attractive to me on the S6. I am now quite happy. I might not be able to shower with the phone now, but the tradeoffs were too big to get me to consider the Active this time around again.
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I actually skipped the Active this year on purpose. I Just ended up getting a 64GB S6 and putting it in a case. I came from an AT&T S4 Active (SGH-i537) and was disappointed by how restricted it was and how difficult it was to find support in the development community. I waited to get an S6 until a couple weeks ago, until I was sure it was rootable and flashfire was working.
I also didn't want to give up the fingerprint sensor which was a feature that was very attractive to me on the S6. I am now quite happy. I might not be able to shower with the phone now, but the tradeoffs were too big to get me to consider the Active this time around again.
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I'm with you. I much prefer the regular S6 to the Active. I've got a regular S6, gold, 64 GB AT&T model and I love it.
Got one today as well. I believe the kernel is too new to use PingPong Root.
I am actually not that worried about it. I just disabled the apps and done. I'm actually tired of romn' phones and doing all that jazz anymore. If they come out with a one step root I may do that.
I'm more concerned with battery life and don't care about fingerprint scanner. Waterproofing is just a bonus.
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How much of the 32GB storage is available to the user?
I have 23gb free but I installed some stuff
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Pictures?
It is an awesome phone! I wanted the built in weather proofing, and the larger battery is great so I waited patiently! I did not care that the battery could not be easily swapped out, but I did want to be able to replace it myself when it needed it as well as do other minor repairs. At the very least I did not want to mail the phone off but take it in to a nearby repair center. I cannot find unboxing videos or detailed pictures. Can anyone post some especially of the port on the bottom and back? I was set to get this, but it is my understanding that it is going to require a heat gun to take the back off too just to replace the battery or even replace the charging port door--something I can easily do with the regular s5 model? If I had a Samsung repair center near me like an Apple center, I may have still considered this phone. There is still a small part of me that is still hoping against the odds that this thing is not glued together, but I am told it is. Why could they have not just tucked the sides under the metal flaps to hold the back down better and just screwed it down. They have screws there anyway for looks????
I am still trying to decide on getting this or getting something else like maybe the s5.
I am not sure about being limited to the 32 GB storage either, but I think I could get by with an OTG adapter for special events when I needed to record them. Wish there would have been a 64 GB option.
I also do not like the lack of MHL support as our Internet here is slow and not good for Chromecast.
For anything else I for go for pink, frilly looks (I am a middle-aged mom), but I just wanted a phone that I could use without worrying about day-to-day use. So this phone in an Otterbox (the black or gray it is going to come in) is just fine with me!
Thanks for any information for those who went out and got this. I have the feeling I am going to going with another phone though
PinkPower said:
it is my understanding that it is going to require a heat gun to take the back off too just to replace the battery or even replace the charging port door
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Just so you know there is no door on the S6A, all the ports are just open.
I have it too. So far so good. Upgraded from an active 4.
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I spent an hour playing with one in the "flagship store" in Boston. I finally decided that I wanted to buy it and the sales guy says oh we only have it in Camo white.. I wanted regular grey. They had 4 display models on the floor. I guess I'll have to order it online..
So I just did an overnight battery test. I have GPS disabled and WiFi set to turn off (more data useage) when it goes to sleep. I have NFC disabled as well as the LED on the front, etc. Overnight for 10 hours the battery dropped 6%. For me that is pretty damn good for a bloated factory image.
So how's the cell signal strength so far? Curious since it's got a different type case as opposed to metal and glass.. Also how's screen look. Solid white background have pink tint?
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So how's the cell signal strength so far? Curious since it's got a different type case as opposed to metal and glass.. Also how's screen look. Solid white background have pink tint?
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I see no pink hue, looks solid white to me on a google screen.
If I let this page sit on high brightness, http://jasonfarrell.com/misc/deadpixeltest.php?p=2, I can see either a slight pink tint toward the bottom of the screen or it is me going blind from staring at it.
I don't travel a lot so cell strength seems normal to me.
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I see no pink hue, looks solid white to me on a google screen.
If I let this page sit on high brightness, http://jasonfarrell.com/misc/deadpixeltest.php?p=2, I can see either a slight pink tint toward the bottom of the screen or it is me going blind from staring at it.
I don't travel a lot so cell strength seems normal to me.
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Have you checked to see where it was assemble (Vietnam, Korea, etc...) and what type of camera sensor it has? Isocell vs Sony? Sorry for the 20 questions just wondering how it compare to regular S6.
I made sure it was made in Korea. How would I find the camera sensor info
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See if this works. Copied from techtrikz and written by Kannan.
How to identify the camera model on your Galaxy S6/S6 Edge
1. Open phone dialer and enter the below code
*#34971539#
2. This will open the ‘Camera Firmware Standard’
3. Tap on ‘ISP VER CHECK’. This will show up the rear and front camera make.
4. For Sony sensor, it will be ‘SONY_IMX240_FIMC_IS’ and for Samsung Isocell sensor, it will be ‘SLSI_S5K2P2_FIMC_IS’.

Looking into the Idol 4 (cricket)

I'm looking into getting an Idol 4 as an upgrade. I currently have a Samsung Galaxy Light which is just a terrible phone all around lol. This phone spec wise seems like a great deal for the price (currently 149.99). But I don't like buying things without reviews and this phone has almost none. So since some of you have it I was hoping I could get some feedback on how it is. I generally use mine for light gaming, lots of video streaming, social networking and lots of texting, and some web browsing. I wouldn't mind getting into taking more pictures as well since the kids are starting to get bigger. Anything you have to say would be greatly appreciated. Just remember I'm interested in the Idol 4 not the S variant. Thank you in advance!
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I'm looking into getting an Idol 4 as an upgrade. I currently have a Samsung Galaxy Light which is just a terrible phone all around lol. This phone spec wise seems like a great deal for the price (currently 149.99). But I don't like buying things without reviews and this phone has almost none. So since some of you have it I was hoping I could get some feedback on how it is. I generally use mine for light gaming, lots of video streaming, social networking and lots of texting, and some web browsing. I wouldn't mind getting into taking more pictures as well since the kids are starting to get bigger. Anything you have to say would be greatly appreciated. Just remember I'm interested in the Idol 4 not the S variant. Thank you in advance!
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Honestly this phone is really awesome all around. Gaming is very descent but one thing that I absolutely love about this phone is the sound quality. Literally it is in Surround sound. Only gripe is some of the picture quality and heat using the VR. Other then that it is super fast with great battery life. I went from a Samsung galaxy edge 7 to Alcatel Idol 4 and don't regret it one bit. Just wishing the root was out to make this phone better.
I came from a G3. The G3 was accused of quickly becoming warm, due to the high resolution display but this phone, to me, becomes warm under less stress. Generally a reboot helps ease the struggles and it cools down for the day. My brightness is almost always at less than 50% but my battery life is about an hour of SOT less, I consistently notice that I now have 2gb of RAM and not 3. I can clear all my apps, open chrome with 4 tabs, exit to the home screen and reopen chrome to see it's reloading the entire app. When using Google maps or Waze, it takes about a full second for my touch to register in the app but on screen keys are unaffected. My apps are minimal, not even Facebook but I use Facebook messenger lite, no widgets or abnormal background apps, so I don't feel I'm pushing the device too far.
I list all of these but I honestly feel they're software issues. I've replaced the stock launcher and noticed a huge difference. The biggest selling points are the amazing speakers, solid build quality but invest in tempered glass protector, extremely capable camera, VR headset and near stock. You can disable quite a bit of added and unneeded software and that helps. Once root is achieved I think some simple tweaks will unleash its true abilities but I think I would go with the honor 5x or wait for the 6x. 5x already has a community behind it and I miss rooting.
Are your sure you have the 3gb RAM version and not the 2? I ordered mine from the UK to get the 3gb version. I have no idea where your located, on mobile.
OP, tours sounds like a perfect device for your use. Same reason i bought one for my wife.
Like I said I have the galaxy light. Dual core processor, 8 gigs of onboard storage before the ROM, and only one gig of ram. Ha when I use maps it takes 5 minutes just for the app to open so a second to register won't be a problem. I always use Google now launcher which seems to improve speed most of the time.
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mcarden2006 said:
Honestly this phone is really awesome all around. Gaming is very descent but one thing that I absolutely love about this phone is the sound quality. Literally it is in Surround sound. Only gripe is some of the picture quality and heat using the VR. Other then that it is super fast with great battery life. I went from a Samsung galaxy edge 7 to Alcatel Idol 4 and don't regret it one bit. Just wishing the root was out to make this phone better.
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Also it sounds like you have the idol 4S not just the idol 4?
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Thanks for the reply you guys. I've decided I'm going to get the idol 4 because of cost, MM, and now root
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Thanks for the reply you guys. I've decided I'm going to get the idol 4 because of cost, MM, and now root
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beware, the cricket variant can't be root (you can't flash twrp) at this time.
murigny64 said:
beware, the cricket variant can't be root (you can't flash twrp) at this time.
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I did see that. There is hope though since its still a newish phone. Cricket keeps dropping the price on it so that may lure people in with the specs it has.
There is a lot of dis-information regarding the variants of this phone. A lot of people are saying its wonderful but a lot of posts from people using different versions of it.
That and I noticed that they plan to muddy it even more with a 'mini' version and a 'pro' version.
So it gets even more confusing. The cricket version may or may not have 2gb, but its supposed to have 3gb. The cricket version also has an older Snapdragon 617 which according to the mfg wasn't even used in this phone.
You know what I am thinking? this is a re-balled idol 3.
Correct me if my suspicion is wrong.
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There is a lot of dis-information regarding the variants of this phone. A lot of people are saying its wonderful but a lot of posts from people using different versions of it.
That and I noticed that they plan to muddy it even more with a 'mini' version and a 'pro' version.
So it gets even more confusing. The cricket version may or may not have 2gb, but its supposed to have 3gb. The cricket version also has an older Snapdragon 617 which according to the mfg wasn't even used in this phone.
You know what I am thinking? this is a re-balled idol 3.
Correct me if my suspicion is wrong.
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I'm not sure on the specs of the idol 3 so I cannot comment on that. I'm getting mine tomorrow from cricket so I will be able to give exact specs of the phone.
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Selling one mint shape, comes with vr(never used it) also phone is unlocked
120$
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903tex said:
Selling one mint shape, comes with vr(never used it) also phone is unlocked
120$
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Thanks for the offer but I already bought one
I have the Cricket variant of the Alcatel Idol 4. It is the 6055U, which is the 2GB version. I really like the phone with the exception of the vibrate motor. I find it to be very weak. I can't even feel the vibration when the phone is in my front pocket and a call is coming in.

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