International Note 5? - Galaxy Note5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Where can I buy a international note 5 for germany?
Thanks

seems its available in singapore, anyknows where it can be bought online

Yes, it is available in Singapore... I bought mine in a samsung-shop on saturday. Not sure about online ordering.
Maybe you can try here...
http://www.expansys.com.sg/mobile-phones/brand/samsung/

check ur PM

Does anyone know which Version Supports german language and celluar bands?

Hey, I have not looked at asian note 5 yet, I will do so soon.
For Europe, you need gsm and lte 3, 7, and 20 (1800, 2600, 800 MHz) [no26-800MHz # no20-800MHz! ...]
To use US phones for Europe, this is what i have come up with.
http://imgur.com/1yPhyFQ
I based that on what I found for SM-N920 A/V/P (AT&T, Verizon, Sprint), German/UK LTE network requirements, and the Galaxy S6 (SM-G920 A/V/P/F, F=Europe/Int). I guess the Note 5 is pretty much a S6 with larger screen and pen, so network capabilities should not differ too much between the S6 and the Note 5, hopefully.
I will get a AT&T device soon, hopefully only bootloader unlocked and just KNOX (don't care too much about warranty for US phone since I import it...). AT&T should work for most of Europe, or respectively for LTE 3, 7, and 20....
I see what I can find for the Asian Note 5 ('s) and msg back
EDIT:
Haven't found much info on the SM-N920S / SM-N920K (Korea, Asia?), but based on the SM-G920S/K or Galaxy S6, versus the SM-G920F Europe, there are some minor differences, but I think these should work just fine in Europe as well... http://www.mobosdata.com/samsung-galaxy-s6-sm-g920f (k, s).
g/l

Ill also need to import one, since it wont come here to brazil...needs to be lte band 7...id like to buy it today if possible...

How you can use a Galaxy Note 5 from U.S in Europe? is the region block...

the at&t one, unlock via website, not straight forward potentially, but seems possible espc as non-customer - https://www.att.com/deviceunlock/
but what bothers me is this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/note5/general/verizon-att-samsung-note-5-knox-root-t3183641 - i guess will hold off the note 5 at&t for now, same with verizon, and sprint might not have full lte capabilities.
i might get the surface phone lol (if i can get full access to registry and group policies and have some way of turning all the phoning home off)...

Man, why you speack about Note with carriers?
On eBay there are a lot model FACTORY UNLOCKED, are they good? they have the region block if i buy them and i use in Italy?

I have the singapore one.
And it works just fine here in the netherlands.
At my home I don't have 4G.
Outside there is no problem.
I think the singapore one misses the 800 band.
4G is working only in the big cities here for now with this note 5.
Later this year the phone company release another bands.

800Mhz is to 1800 and 2600MHz LTE - loosely compared - as 5GHz Wifi is to 2.4GHz -- higher transfer speeds at the higher frequencies but shorter range and less signal through obstancles, generally speaking.
Would explain why inside you would not get a great LTE signal, if the 800MHz band is missing.... imho

You are right.
But the seller told me the 800 is there.
And now I know there is not a 800.
But here in the netherlands the provider also uses the 1800,but only in the big cities.
That's why the phone picks up 4G when I am outside.

yh, most european countries use all 800, 1800, and 2600, depending on region/area/whatnot...
just saying, without 800 capability, and when you happen to have 800 mast outside your area, you might not get signal, especially inside... ofc you can still have lte via 1800 and 2600, provided you are close enough and have a mast nearby, more likely in the cities (lots of data over short ranges)

Still I am happy with the note 5.

I am not saying anything about that
Apart from the obvious things everyone knows about vs the Note 4, it's a great looking piece of kit!
Also, Seller MIGHT have said 800 is there, as in 800MHz B26, but what you'd need in Europe is 800MHz-B20...

I saw it on ebay.
It's 800 B26.
My mistake.
I don't bother.

I read about Samsung region block and we can't put a different SIM respect the SIM of the contry model. Don't you have problem?

Does anyone have an SM-N920I?
It probably has more / less bands than you think. What's posted online doesn't actually reflect much about the actual phone. Does anyone have an SM-N920I?
In your dialer could you please type *#2263# and naivate to Band Selection. Post here what's in WCDMA and LTE.
On the S6 SM-G920I:
WCDMA: 2100, 900, 1700, 850, 1900
LTE: 1,2,3,4,5,7,8,12,13,17,18,19,20,25,26,28,29,40

on my N920I I have the following:
WCDMA: 2100, 900, 850, 1900
LTE: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 13, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 25, 26, 28, 29, 30, 38, 39, 40, 41
Let me know if you want something else too.
I bought this device to use on AT&T in the USA. So far it is working perfectly.

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[Q] UMTS/HSPA 900 + LTE Band 20 Flash ATT S5

I was hoping the ATT S5 would get UMTS 900 and LTE Band 20 (Europe Digital Dividend 800 Mhz), I was disappointed to see that it does not.
I live 45 min. North, Northwest of Philly and AT&T is the best carrier in PA - HANDS DOWN! I also travel every week, all over the US for work - and I'm very happy with AT&T in general. One thing I noticed on my S4 is that I could not get LTE in Burlington, VT on it - but I had full bars of LTE on my iPad Air. Side question; What band does ATT use for LTE there that the S4 don't support?
Anyways,
on the S4 I was able to activate AWS freq. for UMTS by flashing it. I need to do this for UMTS 900 and/or (pref. AND LTE Band 20, since I travel to Northern Norway all the time - and there is only UMTS 900 and LTE 20 some places there.... If I cannot have the phone flashed to have the current bands AND the wanted bands - would there be a way to flashing it back and forth from ATT to "Euro/International" mode?
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mgullvik said:
I was hoping the ATT S5 would get UMTS 900 and LTE Band 20 (Europe Digital Dividend 800 Mhz), I was disappointed to see that it does not.
I live 45 min. North, Northwest of Philly and AT&T is the best carrier in PA - HANDS DOWN! I also travel every week, all over the US for work - and I'm very happy with AT&T in general. One thing I noticed on my S4 is that I could not get LTE in Burlington, VT on it - but I had full bars of LTE on my iPad Air. Side question; What band does ATT use for LTE there that the S4 don't support?
Anyways,
on the S4 I was able to activate AWS freq. for UMTS by flashing it. I need to do this for UMTS 900 and/or (pref. AND LTE Band 20, since I travel to Northern Norway all the time - and there is only UMTS 900 and LTE 20 some places there.... If I cannot have the phone flashed to have the current bands AND the wanted bands - would there be a way to flashing it back and forth from ATT to "Euro/International" mode?
M:good:
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AT&T uses bands 2, 4, 5, & 17 for LTE. Band 17 (700mhz) is what most of their LTE is on. That's why the signal is always good. I am starting to see Band 2 (1900mhz) in some areas. I saw Band 4 (AWS) in Chicago in a few areas (probably were capacity is weak).
Yes, with the S4 you could unlock the AWS frequencies. I do not know if you could flash UMTS 900 with an S4. You will not be able to flash anything with frequencies on the S5 as AT&T has locked down the phone entirely. It will follow in the Note 3's footsteps.
I think they discourage people unlocking their devices and using them on other networks. AT&T is forgetting what GSM is all about IMO. If AT&T LTE is not that important to you, you may want to consider the international variant which will support your European frequencies. It will NOT work on AT&T LTE though.
Hope I helped.
MattMJB0188 said:
AT&T uses bands 2, 4, 5, & 17 for LTE. Band 17 (700mhz) is what most of their LTE is on. That's why the signal is always good. I am starting to see Band 2 (1900mhz) in some areas. I saw Band 4 (AWS) in Chicago in a few areas (probably were capacity is weak).
Yes, with the S4 you could unlock the AWS frequencies. I do not know if you could flash UMTS 900 with an S4. You will not be able to flash anything with frequencies on the S5 as AT&T has locked down the phone entirely. It will follow in the Note 3's footsteps.
I think they discourage people unlocking their devices and using them on other networks. AT&T is forgetting what GSM is all about IMO. If AT&T LTE is not that important to you, you may want to consider the international variant which will support your European frequencies. It will NOT work on AT&T LTE though.
Hope I helped.
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AT&T is most important, as I am in the US 95% of the time. At least the S5 will have LTE 1800 and 2600. My hometown in Norway should get LTE 1800 later this year. So at least I will have GSM 900, UMTS 2100 and LTE 1800.
Do you, or anyone else know if AT&T will unlock Phones on the Next plan? I got the S4 full price, but I'm using the Next plan for the S5.
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mgullvik said:
AT&T is most important, as I am in the US 95% of the time. At least the S5 will have LTE 1800 and 2600. My hometown in Norway should get LTE 1800 later this year. So at least I will have GSM 900, UMTS 2100 and LTE 1800.
Do you, or anyone else know if AT&T will unlock Phones on the Next plan? I got the S4 full price, but I'm using the Next plan for the S5.
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They'll unlock it if its paid off entirely. But that doesn't mean you can't unlock it yourself.

[Q] Which LTE bands are covered?

I recently bought an AT&T Note 3, and I am wondering which LTE bands/frequencies the phone is compatible with...
I am looking to use the phone in Singapore (Bands 3 (1800mhz) and 7 (2600mhz)). The AT&T website states that phone covers band 7, while a phone rep stated that it covers band 3. A google search brings up conflicting info. If I can't use my Note 3 in Singapore, I will have to exchange phones. Any help?
Thanks
Good question.
I wonder if there is anyone even working on unlocking the T-Mobile bands on the Note 3?
I would go with what negri electronics put on their website, it's a trusted source and in the cellphone business for a long time. They sell unlocked att galaxy note 3's and on the specs I see: 4G LTE: 700/ 850/ 1700/ 1900/ 2100.
As of att's website:
Band 1, 2, 4, 5, 7 and 17
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Which Note 4 Exynos version works with USA T-Mobile LTE?

Folks,
I have looked for this answer everywhere and do not seem to find an answer for it: Which version of the Note 4 Exynos works with T-Mobile LTE?
From a post I read, seems that the SM-N910C sold in Qatar works, but I am not sure.
Any help is greatly appreciated !
Cheers,
G
Interesting...unless the Qatar version supports 1700MHz band....I'm don't think you'll fully be able to utilize the TM network.
This makes me curious now...
This is what I found, from XDA:
SM-N910T(Qualcomm Snapdragon 805)------[USA T-Mobile]------{FDD-LTE+WCDMA+GSM}
SM-N910T1(Qualcomm Snapdragon 805)------[USA T-Mobile]------{FDD-LTE+WCDMA+GSM}
Now, for models with Exynos:
SM-N910C(Samsung Exynos 5433)------[Asia,Europe,South America]------{FDD-LTE+WCDMA+GSM}
SM-N910H(Samsung Exynos 5433)------[Asia-Pacific]------{WCDMA+GSM}
SM-N910K(Samsung Exynos 5433)------[Korea KT+]------{FDD-LTE+WCDMA+GSM}
SM-N910L(Samsung Exynos 5433)------[Korea LG+]------{FDD-LTE+WCDMA+GSM}
SM-N910S(Samsung Exynos 5433)------[Korea SKT]------{FDD-LTE+WCDMA+GSM}
SM-N910U(Samsung Exynos 5433)------[HongKong,Taiwan,Australia,New Zealand,Chile]------{TDD-LTE+FDD-LTE+WCDMA+GSM}
I have read somewhere here in XDA that the SM-N910H will not work in T-Mobile. Then is only:
SM-N910C(Samsung Exynos 5433)------[Asia,Europe,South America]------{FDD-LTE+WCDMA+GSM}
SM-N910K(Samsung Exynos 5433)------[Korea KT+]------{FDD-LTE+WCDMA+GSM}
SM-N910L(Samsung Exynos 5433)------[Korea LG+]------{FDD-LTE+WCDMA+GSM}
SM-N910S(Samsung Exynos 5433)------[Korea SKT]------{FDD-LTE+WCDMA+GSM}
SM-N910U(Samsung Exynos 5433)------[HongKong,Taiwan,Australia,New Zealand,Chile]------{TDD-LTE+FDD-LTE+WCDMA+GSM}
And found this on the N910C:
http://www.globalcertificationforum.org/certified-devices/4648.html?view=terminal
E-UTRA FDD Band 1: Category : 4
E-UTRA FDD Band 2: Category : 4
E-UTRA FDD Band 3: Category : 4
E-UTRA FDD Band 4: Category : 4
E-UTRA FDD Band 5: Category : 4
E-UTRA FDD Band 7: Category : 4
E-UTRA FDD Band 8: Category : 4
E-UTRA FDD Band 20: Category : 4
And this on the N910K:
http://www.samsung.com/sec/consumer/mobile-phone/mobile-phone/kt/SM-N910KZKEKTC-spec
4G LTE B1 (2100), B3 (1800), B5 (850), B7 (2600), B8 (900) B17 (700)
And this on the N910L:
http://www.samsung.com/sec/consumer/mobile-phone/mobile-phone/lgt/SM-N910LZKELUC-spec
4G LTE B1(2100),B3(1800),B5(850),B7(2600)
And this on the N910S:
http://www.samsung.com/sec/consumer/mobile-phone/mobile-phone/skt/SM-N910SZKESKC-spec
4G LTE B1(2100),B3(1800),B5(850),B7(2600),B17(700)
And this on the SM-N910U:
http://www.samsung.com/nz/consumer/mobile-phone/smartphone/smartphone/SM-N910UZWENZC
B1(2100), B2(1900), B3(1800), B4(AWS), B5(850), B7(2600), B8(900), B28(700)
So, what do you think?
And finally, for T-Mobile's SM-N910T,
http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones/SM-N910TZKETMB
4G (LTE Cat 4 150/50Mbps) : B2 / B4 / B5 / B12 / B17
The authority on operating bands in the US is the FCC.
https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/repo...ame=N&application_id=544347&fcc_id=A3LSMN910C
https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/repo...ame=N&application_id=396270&fcc_id=A3LSMN910U
Short answer, The N910C and N910U has Band 4 LTE. Neither has band 12 (700MHz Block A)
Also, when on call or in a low-signal area, hold the phone with your left hand. The diversity receiver (2nd antenna) is right beneath the power button.
ATnTdude said:
The authority on operating bands is the US FCC.
https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/repo...ame=N&application_id=544347&fcc_id=A3LSMN910C
https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/repo...ame=N&application_id=396270&fcc_id=A3LSMN910U
Short answer, The N910C and N910U has Band 4 LTE. Neither has band 12 (700MHz Block A)
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Yup, thanks a lot ! I was getting to that conclusion... T-Mobile uses Band 4 (AWS 1700/2100 MHz), which you are right only the N910C and N910U have. And also true, as with other international phones like the Sony Z3 and others, the biggest regret will be Band 12. However, for what I have read, the regret there of not having Band 12 is WiFi calling and some better reception indoor like in buildings and such.
Cheers,
G.
LTE Band 12 has nothing to do with WiFi calling. WiFi calling, in terms of hardware, simply requires WiFi, which all N910 models have (2.4 and 5.xGHz). The rest is carrier support (which T-Mobile has) and software on the phone (which if it isn't on by default can be added via root).
LTE Band 12 doesn't matter much outside of California, Florida, Texas, New England, Cleveland, Denver, Detroit, Atlanta, Minneapolis and Indianapolis. Leap (Cricket) Wireless owns most of the 700MHz Block A spectrum in America. Check out this map and see where you live vs what your carrier holds.
http://specmap.sequence-omega.net/
ATnTdude said:
LTE Band 12 has nothing to do with WiFi calling. WiFi calling, in terms of hardware, simply requires WiFi, which all N910 models have (2.4 and 5.xGHz). The rest is carrier support (which T-Mobile has) and software on the phone (which if it isn't on by default can be added via root).
LTE Band 12 doesn't matter much outside of California, Florida, Texas, New England, Cleveland, Denver, Detroit, Atlanta, Minneapolis and Indianapolis. Leap (Cricket) Wireless owns most of the 700MHz Block A spectrum in America. Check out this map and see where you live vs what your carrier holds.
http://specmap.sequence-omega.net/
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Thank you very much.
I looked at that map but did not quite understood the results. So, can you please educate me on what really I might miss should I go missing the Band 12 for someone living on those areas you have mentioned above?
I am tired of waiting on the T-Mobile Note 4 availability and the N910U seems to be available on eBay, plus it has the Exynos.
Cheers,
What's so special about the Exynos processor over the 805? The 805 in my Note4 is a beast.
Edit: http://www.androidauthority.com/galaxy-note-4-exynos-5433-vs-snapdragon-805-395820/
The Exynos is faster. Got it.
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ATnTdude said:
LTE Band 12 has nothing to do with WiFi calling. WiFi calling, in terms of hardware, simply requires WiFi, which all N910 models have (2.4 and 5.xGHz). The rest is carrier support (which T-Mobile has) and software on the phone (which if it isn't on by default can be added via root).
LTE Band 12 doesn't matter much outside of California, Florida, Texas, New England, Cleveland, Denver, Detroit, Atlanta, Minneapolis and Indianapolis. Leap (Cricket) Wireless owns most of the 700MHz Block A spectrum in America. Check out this map and see where you live vs what your carrier holds.
http://specmap.sequence-omega.net/
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How do you add wi-fi calling via root? My understanding is that no one has managed to extract wi-fi related software pieces from T-Mobile ROMs and successfully port anywhere. That's why I'm always stuck with TW ROMs.
Just get the sm-n910t. Why do you want Exynos version? Many app wont take advantage of that cpu.
Yup, I did. Was trying to find alternatives since the Tmobile version seems so scarce and difficult to get...but, finally got one. Cheerrs. G.
N910C VoLTE and international dialer questions.
For anyone that has the N910C running on T-Mobile, is VoLTE actived for you? When you make a call, does it stay on LTE or does it drop to 4G (HSPA) and then go back to LTE after you hang up.
Also, does the dialer include the video chat icon on the bottom left and is there a way to remove it since (I'm guessing) it doesn't work.
I have a n910c and I'm on tmobile when I call it drops down to 4g then goes back to lte.
turoki said:
I have a n910c and I'm on tmobile when I call it drops down to 4g then goes back to lte.
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Does HSPA (aws) 3G/4G (H+) work on your 910c on tmobile?
Also are you able to make calls & use data at the same time?
Edit: nevermind just read above post. Please disregard
Can anyone confirm for sure if they're able to surf the web or do any data related activity while on a call with their sm-n910c? I have ZERO data connectivity while on a call and as soon as the call hangs up, I instantly have my data back. Any help or confirmation is appreciated.

[Q] Xperia Z3+ Dual - US - T-Mobile Compatibility

All -
I have been eagerly awaiting the release of this phone in the US and was surprised that Expansys USA listed it on their site on Monday 23rd June as a DUAL SIMM model.
I called them to verify that they did in fact have the phone in stock. In that conversation I realized the one they have seems to be the European Model and does not support T-Mobile LTE in the US. To clarify the maximum speed you can get on the E6533 is 3G on T-Mobile's network.
This brings me to my question and please indulge me if it has already been answered elsewhere: Will there be a US version of the (Xperia Z3+ -E6533)that is slated to be released and if so does anyone know if if it will fully support US T-Mobile 4G LTE.?
Any information would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Much.
What gave you the impression that the E6533 won't get more than 3G on T-Mobile? According to GSM Arena, that specific model has B4(1700/2100) and B12(700), which is what T-Mobile primarily uses for LTE. If the information is correct, you should have no problem connecting to T-Mobile's network.
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E6533 (Dual) is the one you want!
From white papers,
E6533 -> supports tmobile LTE & 3G
UMTS HSPA+ 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 1700 (Band IV),
1900 (Band II), 2100 (Band I) MHz
TD-LTE (Band 38, 39, 40, 41)
FDD-LTE (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 17, 20)
E6553 -> supports tmobile LTE, but does not support their 1700MHz 3G band !
UMTS HSPA+ 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 1900 (Band II),
2100 (Band I) MHz
LTE (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 17, 20, 28, 40)
http://dl-developer.sonymobile.com/documentation/whitepapers/Xperia_Z3+_dual_E6533_WP_2.pdf
http://dl-developer.sonymobile.com/documentation/whitepapers/Xperia_Z3+_E6553_WP_2.pdf
schecter7 said:
E6533 (Dual) is the one you want!
From white papers,
E6533 -> supports tmobile LTE & 3G
UMTS HSPA+ 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 1700 (Band IV),
1900 (Band II), 2100 (Band I) MHz
TD-LTE (Band 38, 39, 40, 41)
FDD-LTE (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 17, 20)
E6553 -> supports tmobile LTE, but does not support their 1700MHz 3G band !
UMTS HSPA+ 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 1900 (Band II),
2100 (Band I) MHz
LTE (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 17, 20, 28, 40)
http://dl-developer.sonymobile.com/documentation/whitepapers/Xperia_Z3+_dual_E6533_WP_2.pdf
http://dl-developer.sonymobile.com/documentation/whitepapers/Xperia_Z3+_E6553_WP_2.pdf
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T-Mobile is phasing out their 1700Mhz 3G band soon so it won't really matter.
I should be receiving my Z3+ by Wednesday. I'll let you guys know how T-Mobile performs on it. I ordered the single sim, E6553 version.
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Please do! Also check the 3G compatibilty beside LTE. Since Culex316 said 1700 MHz 3G being phased out, it should be fine. Like OP, I was also initially planning to get the E6533 (Dual) as I have a tmobile sim too (micro). I ended up getting the E6553 to use on my ATT line as the white paper says dual sim version LTE DL is limited to 150 Mbps (vs 300 Mbps on the E6553) & the dual sim also doesn't support quick charge 2.0 just yet.
schecter7 said:
Please do! Also check the 3G compatibilty beside LTE. Since Culex316 said 1700 MHz 3G being phased out, it should be fine. Like OP, I was also initially planning to get the E6533 (Dual) as I have a tmobile sim too (micro). I ended up getting the E6553 to use on my ATT line as the white paper says dual sim version LTE DL is limited to 150 Mbps (vs 300 Mbps on the E6553) & the dual sim also doesn't support quick charge 2.0 just yet.
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I should be able to report my findings on Thursday. Have a date with the lady friend on Wednesday so I probably won't do anything with the phone until Thursday. First few charge cycles suck and i don't want to end up with a dead phone in the middle of a date.
But I didn't know that there dual sim version didn't have quick charge yet, that's interesting. I'm not too bothered by LTE speeds honestly, but connectivity is always a concern.
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Culex316 said:
T-Mobile is phasing out their 1700Mhz 3G band soon so it won't really matter.
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Right and T-Mobile is moving their edge network to LTE band 12.
Lolento said:
Right and T-Mobile is moving their edge network to LTE band 12.
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No, they are refarming the 1900Mhz spectrum from their 2G EDGE network to LTE.
Band 12 is a different frequency altogether (700Mhz A block).
I came to the sad realization that if you're on T-Mobile, you can't quite have your cake and eat it too with this latest Z3+ situation. I was so excited and almost ordered the E6533 dual SIM version off eBay and the seller "NeverMSRP" where I have bought from many times listed the dual SIM version as having both band 12 and AWS HSPA+ compatibility. I know the latter isn't widely deployed still, but I wanted the dual SIM option and that was icing on the cake. Then I saw conflicting reports and noticed Sony's own whitepapers did not have band 12 listed on the E6533. Sure enough, I think the eBay seller was reporting the incorrect frequencies. Total bummer. I don't want to buy anymore T-Mobile phones without band 12 as I think late 2015 is really when it's going to shine. Anyway, be careful of eBay.
-Collin-
CollinFX45 said:
I came to the sad realization that if you're on T-Mobile, you can't quite have your cake and eat it too with this latest Z3+ situation. I was so excited and almost ordered the E6533 dual SIM version off eBay and the seller "NeverMSRP" where I have bought from many times listed the dual SIM version as having both band 12 and AWS HSPA+ compatibility. I know the latter isn't widely deployed still, but I wanted the dual SIM option and that was icing on the cake. Then I saw conflicting reports and noticed Sony's own whitepapers did not have band 12 listed on the E6533. Sure enough, I think the eBay seller was reporting the incorrect frequencies. Total bummer. I don't want to buy anymore T-Mobile phones without band 12 as I think late 2015 is really when it's going to shine. Anyway, be careful of eBay.
-Collin-
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Honestly, I've never been too fused about LTE speeds, as long as I have HSPA+ I'm happy.
But a preliminary report on the E6553 - it connects to T-Mobile just fine for now. I started this phone up a few hours ago and have it set up now. My home is a horrible spot for T-Mobile, but I'll be out and about tomorrow so we'll see the connectivity.
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Been out and connectivity to T-Mobile's network everywhere has been great!
No issues with voice calls or anything. The E6553 is definitely a great choice for me. I've also been getting great battery life too. I'll report what I've got in the battery thread
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Refarming 1900mhz doesnt mean the LTE spectrum will end up at this spectrum. The converted spectrum will be at band 12 700mhz from EVERYTHING I've read.
E6533 - Didnt work with T-Mobile LTE?
Colin -
If I am reading your post correctly, the DUAL SIMM version you got from "NeverMSRP" did not work with 4G LTE on T-Mobile? Ironically that is the same dude I been emialing and he swears it works. Kindly advise.
CollinFX45 said:
I came to the sad realization that if you're on T-Mobile, you can't quite have your cake and eat it too with this latest Z3+ situation. I was so excited and almost ordered the E6533 dual SIM version off eBay and the seller "NeverMSRP" where I have bought from many times listed the dual SIM version as having both band 12 and AWS HSPA+ compatibility. I know the latter isn't widely deployed still, but I wanted the dual SIM option and that was icing on the cake. Then I saw conflicting reports and noticed Sony's own whitepapers did not have band 12 listed on the E6533. Sure enough, I think the eBay seller was reporting the incorrect frequencies. Total bummer. I don't want to buy anymore T-Mobile phones without band 12 as I think late 2015 is really when it's going to shine. Anyway, be careful of eBay.
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Heating issues?
how about the so reported heating problems, is it a big deal for you guys?
peltruquin said:
how about the so reported heating problems, is it a big deal for you guys?
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Heat = Warm. Warm = Every Powerful phone
CollinFX45 said:
I came to the sad realization that if you're on T-Mobile, you can't quite have your cake and eat it too with this latest Z3+ situation. I was so excited and almost ordered the E6533 dual SIM version off eBay and the seller "NeverMSRP" where I have bought from many times listed the dual SIM version as having both band 12 and AWS HSPA+ compatibility. I know the latter isn't widely deployed still, but I wanted the dual SIM option and that was icing on the cake. Then I saw conflicting reports and noticed Sony's own whitepapers did not have band 12 listed on the E6533. Sure enough, I think the eBay seller was reporting the incorrect frequencies. Total bummer. I don't want to buy anymore T-Mobile phones without band 12 as I think late 2015 is really when it's going to shine. Anyway, be careful of eBay.
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Also curious. Does LTE work or not? How are you sure band 12 isn't there?
Can anybody else provide input?
Looking into getting z3+ soon
Teo032 said:
Also curious. Does LTE work or not? How are you sure band 12 isn't there?
Can anybody else provide input?
Looking into getting z3+ soon
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Its very simple just search google for "Sony Xperia Z3+ E6553 white paper" for Single sim version and "Sony Xperia Z3+ E6533 White Paper" for dual sim version. Check if LTE band is there in company's product datasheet... don't believe on sellers from ebay ...they copy stuff same for all mobiles...
asking said:
Its very simple just search google for "Sony Xperia Z3+ E6553 white paper" for Single sim version and "Sony Xperia Z3+ E6533 White Paper" for dual sim version. Check if LTE band is there in company's product datasheet... don't believe on sellers from ebay ...they copy stuff same for all mobiles...
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yes it's also very simple to see that it was provided earlier, but this guy's experience seems to be a bad one, and we're trying to confirm his personal experience instead of some sheet nobody has confirmed working on t-mobile yet. So unless you don't have your own personal confirmation why don't you google something else for yourself.
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yes it's also very simple to see that it was provided earlier, but this guy's experience seems to be a bad one, and we're trying to confirm his personal experience instead of some sheet nobody has confirmed working on t-mobile yet. So unless you don't have your own personal confirmation why don't you google something else for yourself.
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i was trying to help as there are many amazon customer who says it works with T - Mobile in USA.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00ZOONHYI?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00

International Galaxy Note 5 N920i on US AT&T - Updates?

Hi,
If I was to pick up an international Note 5 (N920i) for use in the USA on AT&T, how would updates work? The theories I have is that either:
The device will never get updates
Samsung will release updates directly to the device
I will have to use custom ROMs for updates
Given that I will root the device (thus the reason for buying the international model), I'm assuming #3 will be the correct path. However, I understand I could run a modified kernel with the stock ROM to allow that, and there only seems to be one ROM outside of the carrier (AT&T/T-Mobile) threads. Could I use an AT&T carrier ROM?
I'm just trying to understand all my options if I walk down this path.
Thanks in advance.
You will get OTA from Samsung or you could use Smart Switch
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You will get OTA from Samsung or you could use Smart Switch
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So, if I was running a custom kernel for root, I would basically revert the kernel to stock, run the OTA or via Smart Switch, and then re-root. Sounds easy enough. Any idea what the timing is like for updates on international versions as compared to the US variants?
Thanks.
Fmstrat said:
Hi,
If I was to pick up an international Note 5 (N920i) for use in the USA on AT&T, how would updates work? The theories I have is that either:
The device will never get updates
Samsung will release updates directly to the device
I will have to use custom ROMs for updates
Fmstrat said:
So, if I was running a custom kernel for root, I would basically revert the kernel to stock, run the OTA or via Smart Switch, and then re-root. Sounds easy enough. Any idea what the timing is like for updates on international versions as compared to the US variants?
Thanks.
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It's hard to say which International version gets updates quicker but I am sure you would have no problems beating AT&T updates.
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It's hard to say which International version gets updates quicker but I am sure you would have no problems beating AT&T updates.
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Good to know, I'll likely pull the trigger then, warranty or not.
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Good to know, I'll likely pull the trigger then, warranty or not.
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I am pretty happy with mine. I had a seven day return through ebay so I didn't have to worry about DOA. Hope you enjoy your purchase.
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I am pretty happy with mine. I had a seven day return through ebay so I didn't have to worry about DOA. Hope you enjoy your purchase.
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One other question, are you using it on AT&T in the US? The N920i says it's compatibility is:
COMPATIBILITY:
2.5G (EDGE, GSM/GPRS ) MHz:850, 900, 1800, 1900
3.5G (HSPA+, UMTS/WCDMA ) MHz:850, 900, 1900, 2100
4G (LTE ) Bands:1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 17, 18, 19, 26, 28, 40
But Droid Life indicates that AT&T also uses a 1700Mhz LTE frequency, which I thought was only T-mobile: http://www.droid-life.com/2015/02/0...sm-cdma-wcdma-lte-verizon-att-sprint-tmobile/
Looking at the wiki: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cellular_frequencies it seems that there is a seperate 1700 mhz 3G and 4G. Does that compatibility chart above indicate that since it has Band 4, it has 1700mhz 4G?
Any thoughts?
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One other question, are you using it on AT&T in the US? The N920i says it's compatibility is:
COMPATIBILITY:
2.5G (EDGE, GSM/GPRS ) MHz:850, 900, 1800, 1900
3.5G (HSPA+, UMTS/WCDMA ) MHz:850, 900, 1900, 2100
4G (LTE ) Bands:1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 17, 18, 19, 26, 28, 40
But Droid Life indicates that AT&T also uses a 1700Mhz LTE frequency, which I thought was only T-mobile: http://www.droid-life.com/2015/02/0...sm-cdma-wcdma-lte-verizon-att-sprint-tmobile/
Looking at the wiki: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cellular_frequencies it seems that there is a seperate 1700 mhz 3G and 4G. Does that compatibility chart above indicate that since it has Band 4, it has 1700mhz 4G?
Any thoughts?
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I am on AT&T. The few times I have checked I was on bands 2, 4,and 5. I have never had a problem connecting to 4G with the 920I version.
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I am on AT&T. The few times I have checked I was on bands 2, 4,and 5. I have never had a problem connecting to 4G with the 920I version.
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And from another perspective, I consistently connect to AT&T LTE bands 2 and 17 using the n920c (which differs from the "i" in supporting band 20 and not 28 - neither of which involves at&t.)
The only frequency from AT&T that the 'c' and 'i' models does NOT support is band 30. At the present time, I think there are only two AT&T phones supporting that band (n920a and the at&t edge+)
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You will get OTA from Samsung or you could use Smart Switch
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garyd9 said:
And from another perspective, I consistently connect to AT&T LTE bands 2 and 17 using the n920c (which differs from the "i" in supporting band 20 and not 28 - neither of which involves at&t.)
The only frequency from AT&T that the 'c' and 'i' models does NOT support is band 30. At the present time, I think there are only two AT&T phones supporting that band (n920a and the at&t edge+)
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Thanks for that info. I am not even sure I knew about band 30.
Edit: just checked from another location and I am now on band 17.
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I am on AT&T. The few times I have checked I was on bands 2, 4,and 5. I have never had a problem connecting to 4G with the 920I version.
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Your comment on Band 4 proved my hypothesis. Thanks. Picked it up on eBay from Monoprice with a 14 day return to ensure against DOA. Thanks again.
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The only frequency from AT&T that the 'c' and 'i' models does NOT support is band 30. At the present time, I think there are only two AT&T phones supporting that band (n920a and the at&t edge+)
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Assuming the N920a is the AT&T Note 5 variant, the AT&T specifications page (https://www.att.com/cellphones/sams...sku7670223?WT.srch=1&source=ECPS0000000PSM00P) does not show band 30 support?
4G-LTE - Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 17, 20, and 29
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Are they just not published?
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Are they just not published?
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When have you ever known at&t to be forthcoming with information?
Here's an FCC filing for the n920A showing band 30 support (as well as all the other bands supported for use in the US):
https://apps.fcc.gov/eas/GetApplicationAttachment.html?id=2679337
(The n920a may supported other bands/frequencies, but the FCC filing won't show anything that isn't tested to work in the US.)
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Here's an FCC filing for the n920A showing band 30 support (as well as all the other bands supported for use in the US):
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What I just found that's VERY interesting is that the n920i has FCC filings (FCC ID: A3LSMN920I) and the AT&T variant is obviously there (with FCC ID A3LSMN920A)
However, there's no sign of an FCC ID of A3LSMN920C. That would mean that my phone, the n920c, is illegal to use or sell in the USA. oops.
That makes things interesting, doesn't it?
I've been using the N920i on AT&T now for about two weeks and my speeds are excellent.
I tested LTE the other night on the speedtest app and had 50 Mbps download, fastest I've ever tested in my area (that even includes AT&T branded phones).
So no complaints here...
I concur with HNIC215. Had my phone about 4 weeks.
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After realizing that this n920c is illegal in the US, I'm in the process of sending it back to amazon (and having it replaced with an 'i' model.)
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After realizing that this n920c is illegal in the US, I'm in the process of sending it back to amazon (and having it replaced with an 'i' model.)
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Is there something about it not being cleared by the FCC that really bothers you or is it more of a just because kind of deal?
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Is there something about it not being cleared by the FCC that really bothers you or is it more of a just because kind of deal?
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It relates to what I do for a living... I have a significant amount of contact with the FCC. It probably would never be noticed, but if it was, I'd be out of a job and possibly fined as well. The risk is too high when I'd be perfectly legal with the 'i' model.
Being that neither band 20 nor 28 is used in the US, the radio difference won't impact usage for me.
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It relates to what I do for a living... I have a significant amount of contact with the FCC. It probably would never be noticed, but if it was, I'd be out of a job and possibly fined as well. The risk is too high when I'd be perfectly legal with the 'i' model.
Being that neither band 20 nor 28 is used in the US, the radio difference won't impact usage for me.
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Makes sense to me, better safe than sorry when it comes to your job.

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