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OK, so far we have some info on the D820 (via the FCC) and D821 (via the leaked service manual).
D820: LTE bands 2/4/5/17/25/26/41
D821: LTE B1, B3, B5, B7, B8, B20
D821 looks like a good match for European, African and most Asian LTE bands, and D820 looks like a match for American & South American LTE bands. China does not appear to be well covered by either model, so there may be a third model if the Nexus 5 is released there.
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UK:
D820: No carriers
D821: EE (3, 7, 20) 3, (3, 20), O2 (20), Vodafone (7, 20)
US:
D820: Sprint (25, 26, 41), AT&T (2, 4, 5, 17), T-Mobile (4)
D821: No carriers
Philippines
D820: Smart Communication (5)
D821: Smart Communication (1, 3, 5)
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Please post below with which model is supported by which carriers in your country, and I'll add it to the post.
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Two models, two spec revisions (with inexplicably lost bands), or the same model with bands 'locked off' for different region (is there a regulatory precedent for this, e.g. WiFi channel 14)? My guess is that the hardware is the same and the bands are locked off somewhere in the firmware, but maybe someone familiar with the chipsets can chime in as to their capabilities?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks
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Its possible that the bands are modem locked. ie with n4 lte band 4. We really won't be able to tell until we get our hands on one.
So officially now, no Verizon love at all.
Sprint supported. Hell yeah.
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bavarianblessed said:
So officially now, no Verizon love at all.
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Say it isn't so!
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Where is the official proof no Verizon support?
Sprint uses bands 25, 26, and 41 for U.S. version.
AT&T uses bands 4, and 17 on Nexus 5.
T-Mobile has just band 4 from the looks of it.
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Say it isn't so!
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Sudbury78 said:
Where is the official proof no Verizon support?
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Sorry, I shouldn't say official. It hasn't been announced but the bands listed above do not include Verizon's LTE network. Apparently it supports band 4 wich Verizon is supposed to roll out in the future but everyone else is supported in the US. Even US Cellular just no Verizon from the looks of it.
Ugh thanks. F Verizon. Haha
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So there is still a glimmer of hope haha, but knowing Verizon (angry Gnex owner here) and not carrying the Nexus 4, I would not be surprised if they don't support the N5.
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I don't know why they just don't do like the Nexus 7 2013 and just put the Verizon bands in there. Verizon won't be happy but with N7 owners, they were able to activate a SIM in another device, then put it in the N7 for service. They just couldn't activate the SIM in the N7.
Verizon is a pain. My GNex is feeling the pain of Verizon but still overall a great device with tons of dev support.
I do remember there being some issues with the GNex release about signal strength and had a technical support nightmare. Plus the problem of Google releasing CDMA source code in AOSP. Not sure how Sprint does it.
Even if Verizon LTE isn't supported now, would it still work for voice service (3G speeds)?
There is mention of the Radio having an adjustable tuner. Perhaps it can tune in to Verizon LTE unofficially.
Verizon uses LTE 13 currently but plans on expanding to 4.
Having Verizon LTE support is still moot if the CDMA voice fall back isn't there. This after all a phone and Verizon doesn't have vo/lte. This makes the the situation with the new N7 different.
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In my opinion D820 will also have "Band 3" support.
It's the most used band in the world. And it will be very stupid to sell a Nexus 7 2013 US edition with Band 3 support...and a Nexus 5 without it.
Since, the Nexus is a phone it's more required when travelling than an LTE tablet.
Also, people told me that the FFC doesn't need to approve that Band so we still have no info about this.
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Also, people told me that the FFC doesn't need to approve that Band so we still have no info about this.
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I've just dug in Google for a few minutes, and I can't find any info supporting this...the FCC seeks approval on all bands under its perview, to ensure there's no disruption to other frequencies. The fact its a 'world' band is immaterial for release in the US..it would still receive testing/verification.
I am a bit disappointed by the two models, would have preferred a single model that supports all the bands listed (don't know if that is technically possible yet). I travel a lot to the UK and it would have been nice to have LTE while there.
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In my opinion D820 will also have "Band 3" support.
It's the most used band in the world. And it will be very stupid to sell a Nexus 7 2013 US edition with Band 3 support...and a Nexus 5 without it.
Since, the Nexus is a phone it's more required when travelling than an LTE tablet.
Also, people told me that the FFC doesn't need to approve that Band so we still have no info about this.
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According to the leaked Service Manual, page 6 indicates DCS1800 (Band 3) is supported.
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According to the leaked Service Manual, page 6 indicates DCS1800 (Band 3) is supported.
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Mmm but the leaked manual is not only for D821?
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Mmm but the leaked manual is not only for D821?
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"LG-D821 : WCDMA(B1,B2,B4,B5,B8)(HSPA+42Mbps(cat24)/ HSUPA 5.8Mbps(cat6) + GSM850/GSM900/DCS/PCS (GPRS Class10/EDGE
Class10)+ FDD LTE (B1, B3, B5, B7, B8, B20) (DL:102Mpbs, UL:51.0Mbps, Max DL MIMO layers = 2, Release8(Cat3))"
I don't know how to make it any clearer..but this relies on a leaked manual.
Here's the wiki page for bands/frequencies:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-UTRA#Frequency_bands_and_channel_bandwidths
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"LG-D821 : WCDMA(B1,B2,B4,B5,B8)(HSPA+42Mbps(cat24)/ HSUPA 5.8Mbps(cat6) + GSM850/GSM900/DCS/PCS (GPRS Class10/EDGE
Class10)+ FDD LTE (B1, B3, B5, B7, B8, B20) (DL:102Mpbs, UL:51.0Mbps, Max DL MIMO layers = 2, Release8(Cat3))"
I don't know how to make it any clearer..but this relies on a leaked manual.
Here's the wiki page for bands/frequencies:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-UTRA#Frequency_bands_and_channel_bandwidths
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The contest wasn't that the D821 would not support band 3 (as you say, the manual clearly states it), but that the D820 would (the FCC filing made no mention of band 3 being among the supported LTE bands).
The FCC website is inaccessible for the moment due to American governmental sillyness, so it's not possible to see if the D820's details have been updated.
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The contest wasn't that the D821 would not support band 3 (as you say, the manual clearly states it), but that the D820 would (the FCC filing made no mention of band 3 being among the supported LTE bands).
The FCC website is inaccessible for the moment due to American governmental sillyness, so it's not possible to see if the D820's details have been updated.
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Good catch! Didn't see that...but for the 820, we presently have:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...ery-lte-802-11ac-wi-fi-and-wireless-charging/
I recently bought an AT&T Note 3, and I am wondering which LTE bands/frequencies the phone is compatible with...
I am looking to use the phone in Singapore (Bands 3 (1800mhz) and 7 (2600mhz)). The AT&T website states that phone covers band 7, while a phone rep stated that it covers band 3. A google search brings up conflicting info. If I can't use my Note 3 in Singapore, I will have to exchange phones. Any help?
Thanks
I went to Singapore in April using my AT&T note 3 unlocked and I used singtel n got lte on it too
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Where can I buy a international note 5 for germany?
Thanks
seems its available in singapore, anyknows where it can be bought online
Yes, it is available in Singapore... I bought mine in a samsung-shop on saturday. Not sure about online ordering.
Maybe you can try here...
http://www.expansys.com.sg/mobile-phones/brand/samsung/
check ur PM
Does anyone know which Version Supports german language and celluar bands?
Hey, I have not looked at asian note 5 yet, I will do so soon.
For Europe, you need gsm and lte 3, 7, and 20 (1800, 2600, 800 MHz) [no26-800MHz # no20-800MHz! ...]
To use US phones for Europe, this is what i have come up with.
http://imgur.com/1yPhyFQ
I based that on what I found for SM-N920 A/V/P (AT&T, Verizon, Sprint), German/UK LTE network requirements, and the Galaxy S6 (SM-G920 A/V/P/F, F=Europe/Int). I guess the Note 5 is pretty much a S6 with larger screen and pen, so network capabilities should not differ too much between the S6 and the Note 5, hopefully.
I will get a AT&T device soon, hopefully only bootloader unlocked and just KNOX (don't care too much about warranty for US phone since I import it...). AT&T should work for most of Europe, or respectively for LTE 3, 7, and 20....
I see what I can find for the Asian Note 5 ('s) and msg back
EDIT:
Haven't found much info on the SM-N920S / SM-N920K (Korea, Asia?), but based on the SM-G920S/K or Galaxy S6, versus the SM-G920F Europe, there are some minor differences, but I think these should work just fine in Europe as well... http://www.mobosdata.com/samsung-galaxy-s6-sm-g920f (k, s).
g/l
Ill also need to import one, since it wont come here to brazil...needs to be lte band 7...id like to buy it today if possible...
How you can use a Galaxy Note 5 from U.S in Europe? is the region block...
the at&t one, unlock via website, not straight forward potentially, but seems possible espc as non-customer - https://www.att.com/deviceunlock/
but what bothers me is this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/note5/general/verizon-att-samsung-note-5-knox-root-t3183641 - i guess will hold off the note 5 at&t for now, same with verizon, and sprint might not have full lte capabilities.
i might get the surface phone lol (if i can get full access to registry and group policies and have some way of turning all the phoning home off)...
Man, why you speack about Note with carriers?
On eBay there are a lot model FACTORY UNLOCKED, are they good? they have the region block if i buy them and i use in Italy?
I have the singapore one.
And it works just fine here in the netherlands.
At my home I don't have 4G.
Outside there is no problem.
I think the singapore one misses the 800 band.
4G is working only in the big cities here for now with this note 5.
Later this year the phone company release another bands.
800Mhz is to 1800 and 2600MHz LTE - loosely compared - as 5GHz Wifi is to 2.4GHz -- higher transfer speeds at the higher frequencies but shorter range and less signal through obstancles, generally speaking.
Would explain why inside you would not get a great LTE signal, if the 800MHz band is missing.... imho
You are right.
But the seller told me the 800 is there.
And now I know there is not a 800.
But here in the netherlands the provider also uses the 1800,but only in the big cities.
That's why the phone picks up 4G when I am outside.
yh, most european countries use all 800, 1800, and 2600, depending on region/area/whatnot...
just saying, without 800 capability, and when you happen to have 800 mast outside your area, you might not get signal, especially inside... ofc you can still have lte via 1800 and 2600, provided you are close enough and have a mast nearby, more likely in the cities (lots of data over short ranges)
Still I am happy with the note 5.
I am not saying anything about that
Apart from the obvious things everyone knows about vs the Note 4, it's a great looking piece of kit!
Also, Seller MIGHT have said 800 is there, as in 800MHz B26, but what you'd need in Europe is 800MHz-B20...
I saw it on ebay.
It's 800 B26.
My mistake.
I don't bother.
I read about Samsung region block and we can't put a different SIM respect the SIM of the contry model. Don't you have problem?
Does anyone have an SM-N920I?
It probably has more / less bands than you think. What's posted online doesn't actually reflect much about the actual phone. Does anyone have an SM-N920I?
In your dialer could you please type *#2263# and naivate to Band Selection. Post here what's in WCDMA and LTE.
On the S6 SM-G920I:
WCDMA: 2100, 900, 1700, 850, 1900
LTE: 1,2,3,4,5,7,8,12,13,17,18,19,20,25,26,28,29,40
on my N920I I have the following:
WCDMA: 2100, 900, 850, 1900
LTE: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 13, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 25, 26, 28, 29, 30, 38, 39, 40, 41
Let me know if you want something else too.
I bought this device to use on AT&T in the USA. So far it is working perfectly.
My Tmobile Note 4 runs on AT&T unlocked. Will I have similar luck with a Tmobile Note 5 on AT&T if I can get it unlocked? One thread points to a missing Band 17 on the Tmobile device, but I don't have a definitive answer. Looking for the benefit of rootable and unlocked bootloader.
what exactly is Band 17 used for though? 2G, 3G, LTE, Talk/Text?
is your N4 missing Band17 as well?
why not pick up an unlocked intrnational version?
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It is missing band 17, which is AT&T's low band.
Otherwise, it works great on AT&T.
wifiguru said:
It is missing band 17, which is AT&T's low band.
Otherwise, it works great on AT&T.
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I pulled up an LTE band tester and I am using band 17 at my house on my N4. I take it that means the TMob version is out.
That's right, the TMO Note 5 left out Band 17.
I am interested in buying US version (Snapdragon) of factory unlocked Note 8. However, it's full specs on network/radio bands are not listed yet even on Samsung official site.
I looked in full specs for Galaxy S8 unlocked (SM-G950UZKAXAA) vs carrier version such as Galaxy S8 for T-mobile (SM-G950UZKATMB), and noticed that carrier versions all listed support for 4G TDD LTE: B38(2600),B39(1900),B40(2300),B41(2500), while unlocked version does not. As the screenshots show.
So will Note 8 unlocked (Snapdradon) also be missing the 4G TDD LTE bands (B38, B39, B40, B41)?
Or maybe the specs listed on Samsung official site are not accurate and unlocked also supports those bands? Wishful thinking.
4G TDD LTE is used in some countries like China. So anyone with unlocked S8 on tmobile traveled to China can confirm if 4G data worked in China with t-mobile SIM?
If the unlocked phone only has the benefit to switch carriers in US but has limited band support internationally, then I will have to think twice.
Yeah I was trying to figure this out as well. So far, from other sites, I have seen mix messages. One site FrequencyCheck.com states that it does have those bands and other show them is missing...not sure which one is correct. Also, for other sites I have seen that the T-Mobile version also has 3G TD-SCDMA: B34(2010), B39(1880) and the unlocked version has 3G CDMA: 800/1900. I really can not make heads or tails of this information....is it correct, who is wrong??? I called Samsung that they don't have the information yet, so I don't know either way. I'm leaning to go with the Unlocked by Samsung version, but I am in the same boat with regards to this matter.
Looks like it, i have a Unlocked verdion of the phone.
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