QI Charge coil? - Moto G 2015 Accessories

The main thing that's missing for me on this is the same thing that was missing on my XT1032, a QI charging ability. I was able to add a charge coil inside the XT1032 by making a very minor cutout in the bottom of the back to let the cable out and loop it to the microusb.
The 2015 version has a small panel over the area of the microusb, with 3 screws. At first sight it looks as though this is to make replacing the port easy, but if you take them off, you find it's just over a metal cover attached to the main board. I don't really see what it's for, but it might make a convenient space to loop the cable from the charge coil into, assuming there's enough space to fit it. I've ordered one from China, so it will be a couple of weeks before I find out

Yes, is for that or can be used for that. Look for a teardown video that shows that. USB and audio can be easily repaired and moded.
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nelsonw said:
Yes, is for that or can be used for that. Look for a teardown video that shows that. USB and audio can be easily repaired and moded.
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Actually, while the little plastic cover comes off easily by removing the 3 screws, the usb port is on the other side of the board and the back is protected by a metal cover. It doesn't look easy to remove without a full stripdown. The only thing of interest under the plastic cover is what looks like a reset button, but I haven't pressed it!
I've now added a charge coil from my old Moto G and left the internal cover off so the space can be used to fold the cable. I also had to carefully trim the top of the coil module to provide good clearance to the camera. But it's all in and working OK now with the cover fully closed.
Unlike the old Moto G, this one will charge from the coil OK without needing to install the kernel hack app to enable this to work.
Mine came in boring white from Amazon, but I bought the Oxford blue back cover and I think it looks really good.

alpine101 said:
Actually, while the little plastic cover comes off easily by removing the 3 screws, the usb port is on the other side of the board and the back is protected by a metal cover. It doesn't look easy to remove without a full stripdown. The only thing of interest under the plastic cover is what looks like a reset button, but I haven't pressed it!
I've now added a charge coil from my old Moto G and left the internal cover off so the space can be used to fold the cable. I also had to carefully trim the top of the coil module to provide good clearance to the camera. But it's all in and working OK now with the cover fully closed.
Unlike the old Moto G, this one will charge from the coil OK without needing to install the kernel hack app to enable this to work.
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Please, post some pics!
I didn't open mine, but in this video seems that is easier
https://youtu.be/cvTeI4pdkak
Minute 9
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Lets see if I have it...It looks like you did not remove anything but back custom plastic cover of the Moto G3. You did not bother the 3 screw plate. Correct?

slamor said:
Lets see if I have it...It looks like you did not remove anything but back custom plastic cover of the Moto G3. You did not bother the 3 screw plate. Correct?
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I did take the plate off to give a bit more space to fold the cable into. It doesn't serve any useful function. There is a need to keep the coil lower down than the centre on this phone because of the moulding with the Motorola badge, so there is some spare cable length on the coil which needs to be folded up tidily.

Well I ordered charging coil A, found a T4 screwdriver. I will be wireless charging next week. Thanks again alpine101.
By the way I may have opened a can of worms...The main reason I did not get Nexus 5X was no wireless charging. :cyclops:

So will the micro usb port be free or do we have to remove the coil for it to be free? cant really figure out from the pic. And also would you please give a link for the charging coil please

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I did take the plate off to give a bit more space to fold the cable into. It doesn't serve any useful function. There is a need to keep the coil lower down than the centre on this phone because of the moulding with the Motorola badge, so there is some spare cable length on the coil which needs to be folded up tidily.
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Hey alpine101...How long does it take to charge, say from 50% or so?
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So will the micro usb port be free or do we have to remove the coil for it to be free? cant really figure out from the pic. And also would you please give a link for the charging coil please
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I ordered this one https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00H7FJX7M/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Amazon had to reorder my coil...It seems to have gotten lost in the mail or something.
If you want to use USB you must take the head out of usb port, not necessarily remove charging coil totally.

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Hey alpine101...How long does it take to charge, say from 50% or so?
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I ordered this one https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00H7FJX7M/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
If you want to use USB you must take the head out of usb port, not necessarily remove charging coil totally.
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I've seriously been looking at this for some time. I'm using a Tudia case and I think I could put it between the case and the phone. I just worry that since the case is still thicker than the phone shell, it won't be able to charge through it.
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With previous phone (Nexus 5) in otter box commuter, I was able to charge on Nokia DT-900 charging plate.
Videos I've seen are charging through different cases.

To what are you going to wire the coil? I doubt theres any internal jack/port. USB? Battery?

Techguy18 said:
To what are you going to wire the coil? I doubt theres any internal jack/port. USB? Battery?
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USB

Just received my Qi charging coil. It took almost 3 weeks, but I got it.
I use the directions from alpine101. It works just fine so far.
Using Nokia DT-900 charging plate with coil inside of Moto G3 back cover and TPU case.

Now this is interesting!!!! Has anyone tried submerging it? Water resistance is my only concern since the back battery cover may bulge slightly.
Next up....NFC!!

It takes a little over 2 hours to fully charge with the usb adapter. I use a premium "smart charger" 2.4A output. Moto OEM is 550mA so g3 draws ~500mA max. How long does it take to charge with the pad, a day?

I have never worried about the water-smartphone mix.
It has the feature but how many will actually have the phone near water?
I removed the 3 screw plate inside, folded excess tail, I closed the back with all snaps. No bulging that eye can see.
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It takes a little over 2 hours to fully charge with the usb adapter. I use a premium "smart charger" 2.4A output. Moto OEM is 550mA so g3 draws ~500mA max. How long does it take to charge with the pad, a day?
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I just put mine on the charging pad at night, and its 100% in the morning.

Can anyone post pic of phone with qi coil?
And where to get it?
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slamor said:
I have never worried about the water-smartphone mix.
It has the feature but how many will actually have the phone near water?
I removed the 3 screw plate inside, folded excess tail, I closed the back with all snaps. No bulging that eye can see.
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I have mine near water all the time...every time it rains, when I wash my hands, if I use it while I'm in the shower (not in there with me...but steam can damage it too), when I'm cooking, and it's a nice thing to have when your idiot friend spills their drink at the bar.

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External Qi Charging Coil

Has anyone tried one of these?
http://www.amazon.com/Aftermarket-P...=UTF8&qid=1385474373&sr=8-5&keywords=lg+g2+qi
I'd be curious to hear your experience, I wonder how thick or fragile it is. I'd buy one to test but I am not in the US and would have to import it.
I ordered one a week or two ago. One of my wireless charging pads (which I didn't have any of, so I had to order a couple) arrived yesterday, but still waiting for the receiver coil. Hopefully any day now.
Edit: bah, I forgot, it's being shipped from HK; it'll be a while yet (the pads came from the US).
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I ordered one a week or two ago. One of my wireless charging pads (which I didn't have any of, so I had to order a couple) arrived yesterday, but still waiting for the receiver coil. Hopefully any day now.
Edit: bah, I forgot, it's being shipped from HK; it'll be a while yet (the pads came from the US).
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Awesome, I look foward to hearing your thoughts on it when you get it
They are pretty thin. I've never use one quite like that, but I used the external pads for the Note 2 that I retro fitted into my old Verizon Galaxy Nexus... and it worked extremely well.
I ended up hooking it up to the POGO pins and taping it onto the battery I had to do a little case modding to make it all fit in a normal Incipio Feather case (basically cut a back plate in half, but I had like 5 of them).
So it works really well. The problem I see here though is you are eating up the USB port all the time. With the thin profile cable, I wouldn't attempt to unplug it many times. Just leave it and forget it. Fortunately the G2 has a great battery. My Verizon G2 has this built in, and I Qi Wireless Charge every night.
The Coils are thin, but thick enough to forbid the use of a thin case like a Incipio Feather. If you use this, you are best off using a TPU case that is flexible.
player911 has nailed the situation. My plan is to 'switch over' entirely to wireless charging for the most part, and wifi file transfers -- I don't want to be unplugging/plugging the usb connector in at all. I figure one more charging pad (total 3) should do it... 1 at work, 2 at home kinda thing.
The eBay version of the amazon listing linked seems to suggest it will come with a case (the one pictured). I can't imagine why I would be asked to pick a colour otherwise black or white, when ordering. Yet both listings state "1 piece", so who knows. Will report what I end up with when it arrives. My S3 had the pogo pins so that you could use wireless or usb for charging but I never went that route at the time. The use of the usb port on the G2 did give me pause but I'm going to give it a go.
I would give it a go too. Perhaps temporarily until a internal solution pops up (bound to happen). Even if it doesn't come with a case, TPU cases are a dime a dozen.
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I just bought one of these, when I get it in over 2 weeks I'll make a review of it since no one else buying these has still.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/261329370615
Interesting. I look forward to hearing how these work.
I've received my coil from ebay, and "installed" it.
It is working fine, however my battery is almost full, so I can't test now the current. I'll do it later.
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Awesome, thanks for the pics! BTW, what charging pad is it that you have there, with the green and red lights?
How thick is the coil? Do you think it is possible to fit it under the back cover? Because I'm planning to do that and run the cable through a hole I want to cut in the back cover so that I can plug it in the usb connector.
Eh that isn't too bad. Looks fine IMO. Besides you don't really need to use the USB port with the Wireless Storage option (awesome feature) and Qi Charging.
So if the port is unused, the also acts like a port saver to keep dirt and lent out.
If you feel lucky and want to further reduce thickness, you can open that package up and remove just the coil. The packaging is basically a thick plastic sticky back that is folded over. Removing the outer plastic housing will cut down 1-2mm. Inside the hard plastic cover, there is the actual coil that is in a black square sticker. The Coil itself is round. On mine, I removed the outer shell and trimmed the unused outside area around the coil. Creates a smaller footprint and gets even thinner.
My goal with my Galaxy Nexus was to fit it in a hard Incipio Feather Slim Case. As it is, any TPU case should work though.
Klotar said:
Awesome, thanks for the pics! BTW, what charging pad is it that you have there, with the green and red lights?
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yes, the cheap one from ebay.
stronkk said:
How thick is the coil? Do you think it is possible to fit it under the back cover? Because I'm planning to do that and run the cable through a hole I want to cut in the back cover so that I can plug it in the usb connector.
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it is thin, but I don't if there is enough space under the backcover, I've never removed it.
I'm still testing it, if my readings are correct it is charging the G2 with at least 400 mA.
Now I've moved it to check how much does the positioning matter.
I've charged it from 50% to 100% using this stuff, it was charging with ~450 mA
Qi is a slow charge. I use mine for my desk and nighttime charging.
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WiZARD7 said:
I've received my coil from ebay, and "installed" it.
It is working fine, however my battery is almost full, so I can't test now the current. I'll do it later.
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Soooooo, how it's working?
Bought one from an Ebay U.S. seller, hope it works.
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Soooooo, how it's working?
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fine
400-450 mA charging current.
I've ordered two different kinds, one is the same as Wizard7 that purports 500 mA output and the other purports 750 mA output. I've received neither one yet although according to tracking, the 750 mA one is finally slated for delivery today. But it has a longer cable that I'll figure out how to fold or contend with.
While I fully expected qi charging to be slower, I have to admit I hoped it would be faster than PC USB at least. It would have been a decent solution if I didn't "lose" use of the usb ports but I guess as long as it charges overnight, I can't complain.
Sooo which qi chargers do you guys recommend?
I also bought the charging coil ;D
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Get wireless charging now on any G2

This is how you can get wireless charging on anything using micro USB.Windows phone,Android or what ever.Even a bluetooth speaker or anything of your choice using micro USB.All the tools cost less than $20US!
Charging pad http://goo.gl/Av3gKX http://goo.gl/Sto40P
Wireless charging module http://goo.gl/PX9R7U
http://goo.gl/73Mvii
Case for LG G2 http://goo.gl/f6X90y
Wifi file explorer http://goo.gl/GL2w04
You can follow me on twitter http://goo.gl/WMidl3 and Google+http://goo.gl/ChDEf to keep up with my updates
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Look good, I'll try this
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Great work. I've always wanted to try out those add-on chargers. I've have a leftover Nokia charger that I bought for my Nexus 7. I would have to think that the module will fit inside the case after you pry it off. I currently have a thin magnet nestled in the case to use with my car dock.
Does anyone have url's for people in europe?
Ordering these stuff on ebay takes way too long and Amazon won't deliver most products.
I haven't found european suppliers that can deliver the pad + receiver + skinn for under 50euros
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Here's some pictures with my Diztronic case. I had extrememly low expectations and was surprised how perfectly it fits flush with the case that it felt wrong when I took it off the other day. Works flawlessly with my DT-900.
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slayer3032 said:
My charger broke the other day, the tiny wire strip ripped a little and it no longer charges my phone. I think it lasted around 3 1/2 months. Towards the end I found it somewhat inconviencing to not have a usb unless I took it out. I'm currently on the fence on if I'll buy another. However it was very nice to have.
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These really aren't that great, I was forced to use the USB port since the stock rom is buggy/bloated because I use the PA Rom. My DT-900 charged hopelessly slow and being able to toss it on for 10 minutes and get 3 hours of charge is something I have to do sometimes now that my battery has worn down.
hackarchive said:
This is how you can get wireless charging on anything using micro USB.Windows phone,Android or what ever.Even a bluetooth speaker or anything of your choice using micro USB.All the tools cost less than $20US!
Charging pad http://goo.gl/Av3gKX http://goo.gl/Sto40P
Wireless charging module http://goo.gl/PX9R7U
http://goo.gl/73Mvii
Case for LG G2 http://goo.gl/f6X90y
Wifi file explorer http://goo.gl/GL2w04
You can follow me on twitter http://goo.gl/WMidl3 and Google+http://goo.gl/ChDEf to keep up with my updates
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how fast does it charge the phone? what is the output amperage?
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hackarchive said:
This is how you can get wireless charging on anything using micro USB.Windows phone,Android or what ever.Even a bluetooth speaker or anything of your choice using micro USB.All the tools cost less than $20US!
Charging pad http://goo.gl/Av3gKX http://goo.gl/Sto40P
Wireless charging module http://goo.gl/PX9R7U
http://goo.gl/73Mvii
Case for LG G2 http://goo.gl/f6X90y
Wifi file explorer http://goo.gl/GL2w04
You can follow me on twitter http://goo.gl/WMidl3 and Google+http://goo.gl/ChDEf to keep up with my updates
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I would love to see pictures of the charging dock as well.
Just a quick note for everyone viewing this thread, there is a lot of info on this type of Qi Charging coil in another thread: External Qi Charging Coil.
Some of your questions might be answered in that thread, such as charging rates, and how it works. I've been using it for some time and enjoy it. About the only problem I have with it is that I want to add a chunk of steel and a magnet so that the phone will "auto align" to the charging pad. That and to hold the phone to the charging pad, as a slight bump with the case I'm using will cause it to slide right off.
Also one last note, if you are using a horizontal holster, it can snag on the usb plug. So make sure the case you are using protects the plug, or you are very careful. The Poetic case I have doesn't protect the bottom and top, and thus the cable can get caught by the holster. Vertical holsters work quite well with the Poetic case, you just have to find one that fits....
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diefightdie said:
Does anyone have url's for people in europe?
Ordering these stuff on ebay takes way too long and Amazon won't deliver most products.
I haven't found european suppliers that can deliver the pad + receiver + skinn for under 50euros
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try dx.com
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Looks great!! gonna build and report back later
AT&T had the Nokia Qi Charging docks for $5 plus free shipping the other day. It uses a barrel plug to charge, but great for permanent positions like by the bed or office. I moved my Samsung (microUSB) over into my travel bag. I'm actually VERY surprised how well the Nokia Qi is at "pairing" with my Verizon. I seriously just drop it on there and it starts charging where my Samsung had to be "generally" in the same area to get it to go. The Samsung still had play room unlike some of the cheaper $10 ebay models where it required exact precision to "pair" and start charging.
I don't know if the deal is still on but would be worth a look.
UPDATE:
Yup Still $5
http://www.att.com/shop/wireless/accessory.chargers-nokia-wireless-charging-plate-sku6290260.html
"Hacked" built in qi charging:laugh:
The insert is think enough to fit underneath the battery cover.

Magnetic QI Car Dock for Turbo Ballistic?

Has anyone tried magnetic car dock chargers on the Droid Turbo?
I have the Droid Turbo Ballistic Nylon 64gb edition. I read that it has metal weaved into the backing so I was hoping to see if it would work with magnets.
I have the iMagnet but it doesn't hold well. I holds but given my 86 CRX shakes rattles a lot, it eventually slides down and falls off.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008IOQ3K6/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I came across a couple other magnet docks with QI but have been wondering if anyone has tried them.
FUEL ION
http://www.amazon.com/FUEL-iON-Car-...45156&sr=8-1&keywords=magnetic+qi+car+charger
Air Dock
http://www.theairdock.com/products/air-dock
Opinions? experience? Does anyone have the units above?
windraver said:
Has anyone tried magnetic car dock chargers on the Droid Turbo?
I have the Droid Turbo Ballistic Nylon 64gb edition. I read that it has metal weaved into the backing so I was hoping to see if it would work with magnets.
I have the iMagnet but it doesn't hold well. I holds but given my 86 CRX shakes rattles a lot, it eventually slides down and falls off.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008IOQ3K6/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I came across a couple other magnet docks with QI but have been wondering if anyone has tried them.
FUEL ION
http://www.amazon.com/FUEL-iON-Car-...45156&sr=8-1&keywords=magnetic+qi+car+charger
Air Dock
http://www.theairdock.com/products/air-dock
Opinions? experience? Does anyone have the units above?
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I would love to know this too, I am looking at this phone and the fact that there is no dedicated car dock (with built in charging and/or audio is keeping me from pulling the trigger. A neat magnetic option would be great for the charging portion, then the only annoying part will be the aux cable being on the top of the phone...
Contacted Air Dock and they responded the following:
Yes we will be testing the Droid Turbo within the next week. We will announce on our website, and facebook, twitter, and Google+ when it is supported.
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I guess we'll know by next week. Instead of AUX, I'll likely go with bluetooth audio for a wire free setup.
windraver said:
Has anyone tried magnetic car dock chargers on the Droid Turbo?
Air Dock
www . theairdock . com /products/air-dock
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I wouldn't recommend the airdock. In would likely be okay on a desktop/table. But my nexus 5 (smaller and lighter than the droid turbo) is quite finicky on it. I backed the kickstarter and it has numerous issues. The sticky material for the mount on the glass is too thin. So it almost rips when you try to take it out of the car. The magnets help with the nexus 5, but not all qi devices have the magnets. The USB port is inexplicably on the top instead of the bottom, so the USB cable gets kinked and tends to fail. All in all it seems like it needs a full revision before it's reasonable. I wish it had a small lip on the bottom for the phone to rest against, that way the magnet/sticky plate would work just about vibration, instead of vibration + gravity. I've had my n5 fall off several times.
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windraver said:
Has anyone tried magnetic car dock chargers on the Droid Turbo?
FUEL ION
www amazon com FUEL-iON-Car-Mount-Efficiently/dp/B00N5WJS4O
Opinions? experience? Does anyone have the units above?
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That is NOT a qi charger. It claims "more efficient than qi", but it's designed for their custom phone case to add wireless charging to phones that don't have it like the iphone and S4.
Looks like it is supported.
https://twitter.com/TheAirDock/status/530221593192968193/photo/1
"Ballistic Nylon holds fairly well."
stelthy77 said:
Looks like it is supported.
https://twitter.com/TheAirDock/status/530221593192968193/photo/1
"Ballistic Nylon holds fairly well."
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So Ballistic Nylon probably doesn't stick as well to the "sticky" surface the Air Dock has and is therefore rated "Fairly well"
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I wouldn't recommend the airdock. In would likely be okay on a desktop/table. But my nexus 5 (smaller and lighter than the droid turbo) is quite finicky on it. I backed the kickstarter and it has numerous issues. The sticky material for the mount on the glass is too thin. So it almost rips when you try to take it out of the car. The magnets help with the nexus 5, but not all qi devices have the magnets. The USB port is inexplicably on the top instead of the bottom, so the USB cable gets kinked and tends to fail. All in all it seems like it needs a full revision before it's reasonable. I wish it had a small lip on the bottom for the phone to rest against, that way the magnet/sticky plate would work just about vibration, instead of vibration + gravity. I've had my n5 fall off several times.
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That is NOT a qi charger. It claims "more efficient than qi", but it's designed for their custom phone case to add wireless charging to phones that don't have it like the iphone and S4.
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I know what you mean. I had the Air Dock prior and ended up breaking it when I tried to take it apart to remove a magnet that was causing my phone to lock (Moto G).
In all honestly, from taking it apart, it is basically a small QI charger with magnets lined up in 4 corners. The design is pretty poor and there is plenty of room for improvement. I'll try building my own based off that design and your idea of having a lip and loop back when I'm done.
stelthy77 said:
Looks like it is supported.
https://twitter.com/TheAirDock/status/530221593192968193/photo/1
"Ballistic Nylon holds fairly well."
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I have the Air Dock and used to use it with my Droid Maxx...but just picked up the Turbo with Ballistic Nylon this past weekend. I probably wouldn't recommend it...unless all the roads you drive on are super smooth. It holds it just fine most of the time, but if you hit any decent bumps, expect to be picking your phone up off the floor. Bumps that did not affect my Maxx on the Air Dock at all either shift or cause my Turbo to fall off. I just ordered the iOttie Easy Flex Qi Dock to replace it. It's a shame though, as I did really love it.
Also...if you do happen to go with one of the magnetic docks. Disable the Motorola Flip Case app, or else the magnets in the dock cause it to believe you have the flip case on.
I always use Pro Clip holders. I got one for my GNEX and have since stretched it to fit my new Turbo. MicroUSB charging cable built right into the console. They also offer magnetic solutions too.
AirDock has been redesigned and is in a Indiegogo campaign right now. Check out the new specs - has NFC for things like turning your Bluetooth on and off....
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/the-air-dock-2-0
Tzumi Magna Mount
I just bought this mount at Walmart for $10. It's on the electronics section it's called Tzumi Magna Mount. I am in no way a supporter of Walmart but this actually is a decent car mount. It's small and strong magnet held up even with my cell phone being plugged in and talking on the phone going over some of the really rough roads in Columbus Ohio and never fell off. My only question is where should I place the magnet to not interfere with the wireless charging when I set my phone on the charging station?
lutope said:
I just bought this mount at Walmart for $10. It's on the electronics section it's called Tzumi Magna Mount. I am in no way a supporter of Walmart but this actually is a decent car mount. It's small and strong magnet held up even with my cell phone being plugged in and talking on the phone going over some of the really rough roads in Columbus Ohio and never fell off. My only question is where should I place the magnet to not interfere with the wireless charging when I set my phone on the charging station?
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Interesting!
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Magna-Mount/46444865
Tzumi Magna Mount Universal Mount for Automobile
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To answer your question, the Qi circuitry is about 2/3 the way down the back of the phone. It's not centered in the back, it's somewhere in the lower third. That's why the triple coil Qi chargers work very well, because they hit the charging spot no matter how placed.
For single coil charger, you have to place the phone very off center.
Anyway put this magnet in the UPPER 1/3 of the phone to leave the bottom third free for the Qi charger.

Samsung Wireless Fast Charger Teardown + Platinum Qualcomm 2.0 Fast Car Charger

The back story ->
I have an old Nokia Wireless Charging Car Dock and love it. SO much so that I made it work with my sammy devices using a heat gun to bend some of the plastic. Coming into the new devices and wireless standards, I wanted to keep with the same trend and update/ upgrade. Got ahold of the Samsung Wireless charger and had no reason to upgrade the nokia since the charging was the same. In comes the Samsung Wireless Fast Charger and wanting it in the truck. So, I went to work on a teardown of all my gear (again) and here is the insides for you folks. I included the Platinum 12v Car Qualcomm Fast Charger 2.0 since it is what I am using in there with it.
I have a Note5 and an S6 Edge+ so I can verify it IS faster.
I can't see, I'm blind, lol.
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HOW TO TEARDOWN -
Using a regular + screwdriver, you can move the rubber on both sides of the rubber on the bottom of the charger. There are just 2 screws there.
Once they are unscrewed, flip over the charger and turn the top part of the charger counter clockwise. It should then lift right off.
Now that the top is removed, there are 5 screws holding the middle section to the base. Remove them.
Base should now easily lift away from the middle section.
Flip over the middle section and you have an additional 5 screws to remove.
Now to fully remove the electronics from the unit. You would need a Heat Gun and a Soldering iron if you planned on keeping it in a warrantable state. Otherwise, just use a heat gun and a pair of wire cutters.
I used the heat gun to remove the coil from the frame as well as the ribbon cable LED daughter board. Then using the cutters, cut the section where the LED was out as to not have desolder the coil.
DONE.
As for the car charger, I used a knife and some pressure on the seams. "POP' in 4 places and I was done. Desoldered the 2 grounds and 1 positive. Soldered up some red and black 14gauge lead wires and I am off to install in the truck.
I didn't put the Nokia modification up since I doubt there is any interest. Basically I gutted it, Used a heat gun and bent the arms in a manner that would hold my devices and allow for the thicker electronics. Then used some moldable plastic (polymorph) to make a BASE for the electronics to screw into / secure it. I had already added a Ram Ball mount to it so reassembly and plugging it back in were all that was needed. - Overly simplified explanation -
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Check the 3rd post. I just 'dumped' the pictures here and will reorganize later.
The 12v charger and the 120v charger have the same output specs with the exception of the 12v output on the car charger. Have had this setup working for over a week now without fail or issue/. The second one is for a 'STEALTH' install on a piece of vehicle trim. When I am navigating, or using Torque app, I keep the device in the Car dock under the rearview. Just driving around, I set it behind my shifter where I put another charging pad under it. Just waiting for my Micro Suction tape to use as a pad so it doesn't move around.

			
				

			
				
Great pics, sounds like something id do but my Grand Cherokee has nowhere "extra" i could place my ohone onto a hidden qi charger.
You know they make much smaller dash cams right? (Sorry, had to).
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Great pics, sounds like something id do but my Grand Cherokee has nowhere "extra" i could place my ohone onto a hidden qi charger.
You know they make much smaller dash cams right? (Sorry, had to).
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I know with the dash cam. It is multi purpose. I like for people to know they are being video'd, especially LEO. then I remove it and use it for other activities.
Thank you for posting this! It inspired me to try taking my wireless charger apart and intergrating it into my car.
Unfortunately I only had the "regular" (non-fast) Samsung wireless charger for my Note 5 and didn't get very far. When I removed the silicone and stickers on the back and front, I couldn't find any screws!
I think I saw the regular Samsung wireless charger in one of your pictures, have you tried taking it apart and do you have any tips?
Thanks again for posting this, the pictures and instructions made a very nice tutorial
(attached below are pictures of my wireless charger without silicone/stickers)
Not joking here. I just sold that unit yesterday. Have you tried looking in that single cylindrical hole on the bottom? Or try holding the unit in between both hands and turning opposite directions?
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Not joking here. I just sold that unit yesterday. Have you tried looking in that single cylindrical hole on the bottom? Or try holding the unit in between both hands and turning opposite directions?
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Wow, talk about bad timing. Thanks for the suggestions.
I checked the small hole in the bottom, and there is no screw there either, just a nice view of the board beneath.
I also tried twisting the unit in opposite directions and nothing seems to move. I could try putting it in a vise but it was already difficult to grasp the bottom to twist, I'm not sure if I'd be able to get any more leverage.
If you don't mind me asking, how much did you get for the regular wireless charger? I've been thinking how nice it would be to have the fast charging version anyway, now there might be an additional benefit of being able to open it easily.
Sold it to a buddy for 20, he wanted a fast charger too so I sold that to him for 25 and a cable. ~$45 and a handshake.
I got a deal from a retailer that was hesitant on getting them in stock. I put in on 4 of them and paid less than $100USD for them all combined.
If your device supports the fast charging wirelessly, I would recommend in the investment. Check amazon, bestbuy, and all the normal big box places for "black friday/cyber monday" weekend deals.
Worst case with your current one, pry it open or use a dremmel.
THOUGHT on the vise. Put it horizontal instead of vertical. That way the cylindrical disk will split as you tighten it. All the internals should be fine. Or do it in that manner to gain access to a spot where a flat head will have purchase for prying.
You can buy raw charging boards without a case on amazon for like 12 bucks.
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You can buy raw charging boards without a case on amazon for like 12 bucks.
Sent from my SM-N920P using Tapatalk
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The samsung fast wireless boards? Got a link for that?
Couldn't figure out search parameters that yielded me that.
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Wow, talk about bad timing. Thanks for the suggestions.
I checked the small hole in the bottom, and there is no screw there either, just a nice view of the board beneath.
I also tried twisting the unit in opposite directions and nothing seems to move. I could try putting it in a vise but it was already difficult to grasp the bottom to twist, I'm not sure if I'd be able to get any more leverage.
If you don't mind me asking, how much did you get for the regular wireless charger? I've been thinking how nice it would be to have the fast charging version anyway, now there might be an additional benefit of being able to open it easily.
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Hi! Sorry for revive this... Any luck opening it? I´m in the same boat here
The LEDs are driving me crazy at night. Just fixed the Fast charger thanks to this thread, but the regular one is resisting haha
EP-PG920I teardown
If it's the newer pad, you do twist to open. I took apart for the same reason. I have a S7 Edge and no point in using a fast charger on my night stand.
The top twist counter clockwise. Attached is a photo with the notch.
Once open, there are 4 screws on the inside and then the bottom comes off.
There are 2 bulbs and access is not great but you can get to them and eliminate or black out.
If you have any other questions, let me know. I have the newer pad, the newer fast charge pad and the new fast charging stand.
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If it's the newer pad, you do twist to open. I took apart for the same reason. I have a S7 Edge and no point in using a fast charger on my night stand.
The top twist counter clockwise. Attached is a photo with the notch.
Once open, there are 4 screws on the inside and then the bottom comes off.
There are 2 bulbs and access is not great but you can get to them and eliminate or black out.
If you have any other questions, let me know. I have the newer pad, the newer fast charge pad and the new fast charging stand.
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Its really hard isnt it? can´t easily turn it counter clockwise.. its slippery and hard.
Any tip?
Thanks again!

Wireless charging solution by Nillkin

anyone already try new wireless charging solution by Nillkin?
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seems very good to me :good:
http://nillkin.org/accessories/chargers/nillkin-magic-tags-type-c-wireless-charging-receiver
If you have to connect something to charge, what's the difference between this and just connecting it normally without losing DASH charging?
maybe you just come home and put your phone on to wireless charging dock instead desk. And you dont care how long it will take to charge. I was on wireless charging on my previos phone (Nexus5) and it was perfect for me it feels good forget about charging.
I thought that I'd miss wireless charging, especially since I invested in Qi chargers in the house and cars but I found dash charge to be a LOT more convenient.
Same here. I thought I would miss qi charging, but I've been okay without it. I bought a couple USB-C docks for my nightstand and work desk. I'm not using dash charge on them but it charges quickly enough without it.
Purchased one of these and it arrived today. It's a bit picky with detection on my two upright wireless charging docks requiring it be sat at an angle, but it does work. Flat docks may work better. Charging time is assumed slower but I don't have an exact number. Last thing to note is the angled USB-C plug, you won't be able to pull it out without giving the ribbon cable some slack by moving the pad downward, so if you're using a case over the pad you may need to remove it on occasion as needed.
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Purchased one of these and it arrived today. It's a bit picky with detection on my two upright wireless charging docks requiring it be sat at an angle, but it does work. Flat docks may work better. Charging time is assumed slower but I don't have an exact number. Last thing to note is the angled USB-C plug, you won't be able to pull it out without giving the ribbon cable some slack by moving the pad downward, so if you're using a case over the pad you may need to remove it on occasion as needed.
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want to order one tonight. i noticed the tag has adhesive. is it strong? id hate to gunk up the back of my phone.
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want to order one tonight. i noticed the tag has adhesive. is it strong? id hate to gunk up the back of my phone.
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There is only one small strip (2cm x 0.5cm) of some sort of 3M adhesive. I haven't bothered taking the protective layer off to try it since it will be underneath a case and I anticipate having to move it to access the USB port anyways as I mentioned.
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There is only one small strip (2cm x 0.5cm) of some sort of 3M adhesive. I haven't bothered taking the protective layer off to try it since it will be underneath a case and I anticipate having to move it to access the USB port anyways as I mentioned.
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ok cool so it stays stable under the case without the adhesive. just ordered one. dash is great but the convenience of dropping my phone on a pad at night is great
Usability
Could you put this inside a case, and leave it in? Theoretically leaving the phone as a wireless charging device.
The question is: Would this work through a case? Would efficiency be decreased?
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Could you put this inside a case, and leave it in? Theoretically leaving the phone as a wireless charging device.
The question is: Would this work through a case? Would efficiency be decreased?
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Depends on the case.I'll be putting mine between the phone and case. Its trial and error with thickness .though the manufacturer says i think like .2mm I'll leave it in all the time.kind of like a dust cover too
Azbulldog said:
Purchased one of these and it arrived today. It's a bit picky with detection on my two upright wireless charging docks requiring it be sat at an angle, but it does work. Flat docks may work better. Charging time is assumed slower but I don't have an exact number. Last thing to note is the angled USB-C plug, you won't be able to pull it out without giving the ribbon cable some slack by moving the pad downward, so if you're using a case over the pad you may need to remove it on occasion as needed.
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I got my hands on an ordinary flat charging pad and the phone properly charges positioned pretty much anywhere on the pad.
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Could you put this inside a case, and leave it in? Theoretically leaving the phone as a wireless charging device.
The question is: Would this work through a case? Would efficiency be decreased?
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Cases typically aren't thick enough to prevent the system from charging unless the distance and position of the coils is already at its limit, like with my upright charging docks which were made with smaller phones in mind. Nicer and newer chargers will have multiple coils for better coverage. Case materials like metal however will prevent all charging through them, which is why wireless charging and NFC has been excluded from many recent phones. Increasing distance does decrease the efficiency but probably not to a significant amount in this scenario.
Certain cases will have tighter tolerances for fitting this device underneath than others. I would say the pad gets about as thick as a US quarter in the middle. You also need enough space around the USB port for the plug and ribbon cable. I will try the stock OnePlus 3 sandstone case once it arrives, but my current $3 clear vinyl case is fine, just a bit wobbly when laying on a flat surface.
Are you able to use the USB type c cable when you have the adapter installed?
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Are you able to use the USB type c cable when you have the adapter installed?
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You'll have to unplug it
got my adapter on Thursday.Got married Sunday and was out of town and in hotels for a few days so i got some good testing time with this. it works great. im using it with an anker qi charger. i have it behind a rubber case and i have no problems with it. it charges slow obviously but its stupid easy and at least with the anker qi charger there is a big sweet spot.
I must be missing something but this thing seems to me to be a power pack that you plug in via the sub port, however small.
Eggstones said:
I must be missing something but this thing seems to me to be a power pack that you plug in via the sub port, however small.
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It's a Qi compliant inductive coil for wireless charging
Ahhh. I though this small metal strip was all you needed. Should have paid more attention to it.
Just wanted to confirm that this wireless charging pad fits fine underneath the official Sandstone case from OnePlus. You will still have to remove the case to remove the plug to access the USB C slot, but other than that it works just fine.
Complete utter rubbish based on what it actually does:
1. Charges at only ~650 mAh rate (slow to hell, my USB PC & Laptop & Tiny client is faster then this, I can get up to 1400mAh with my set up(s) if not using DASH charge).
2. Can not plug OTG-USB, connect to a PC at will or use DASH charge if not removed.
3. Not all protective cases are ok with this external QI pad.
Based only on these 3, it's a complete fail...... and so on... until it is a complete and utter fail yet again.
Verdict: a total waste of money.

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