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[Q]Extended Battery the size if OEM battery?

Like title says.. I've been trying to find a extended battery which has higher capacity yet the size of the original battery but no luck
Does anyone know if there is one and where to fine one
Thanks
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are you sure that's even possible ? unless the battery was made of some other kind of materials, I have tyrouble seeing how you could store more power in the same battery size.
If you don't want a bigger phone, Your best bet would probably be to buy a second standard battery but it's a hassle to swap the battery when it's empty

If the battery is the same size it could in theory have more juice but it would be negligible. Seriously though, I picked up a charging cradle with battery charging slot and 2 spare batteries for $20. I also have a car charger and 3 chargers in my house. Unless you get a battery that is about double the size, you won't see a big difference and even then many batteries don't live up to their specs. Chargers and spare batteries are cheap. We're not dealing with smartphones of a decade ago where everything was proprietary and would cost at least $30 a pop.
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I remember reading something about this... I think it might have even been on this forum but it was something along the lines of "Don't you think, if it were possible to fit more juice into the same size battery, that samsung wouldn't do that with their OEM batteries?"
Samsung, and I'm sure many other major device manufacturers don't just buy a battery off ebay and throw it in their phones. they spend time and money researching better battery technologies to get the best power/life they can.

It's my second day with an Andida 1850mAh battery, no big changes yet compared to my 8 month old 1500mAh OEM battery, i'll post back after a few complete drain and charge cycles.

Surnom said:
It's my second day with an Andida 1850mAh battery, no big changes yet compared to my 8 month old 1500mAh OEM battery, i'll post back after a few complete drain and charge cycles.
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Be careful buying those batteries. More often than not they just repackage 1500 batteries and Mark up the price :/
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After 3 complete charge cycle its a little bit better than OEM but no big improvement. I'll see in a few more days.

I finally get about 15% better battery life. For the 20$ it cost me, I'm happy.

Surnom said:
I finally get about 15% better battery life. For the 20$ it cost me, I'm happy.
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How long have you had the battery? I'm looking for a new one as well but not if I am going to get scammed. Thanks!

Not Nexus related, but I have a vibrant that I got the Galaxy S 2 Epic 4G Touch battery for recently. Battery life went from about 6 hours to dead (month old 1500 mAh replacement battery bought at a phone hut) to 34 hours to dead (new samsung 1800mAh battery.) Nothing else changed.
My point is this:
1. If the above statements about samsung packing in as much as possible are true, why didn't the vibrant have a 1800mAh battery from the start? (hint, it is always about money.)
2. Take a crap 1500 mAh battery, slap a 1800 mAh sticker on it. People that buy these batteries will see an improvement because most generally they are replacing a worn out battery with a new one. Of course you will see an improvement, your worn out stock battery has only (arbitrary number) 600 mAh worth of usefulness left. The replacement is new and is not worn yet. (All arbitrary numbers follow) So, you will still see an improvement if you take a rated 1500mAh battery, that is labeled 1800mAh, but is in actuality only 1000mAh.
So asking if there is another, bigger, better battery for the Nexus made by Samsung, is a very valid question. So:
mrplowking said:
are you sure that's even possible ? unless the battery was made of some other kind of materials, I have tyrouble seeing how you could store more power in the same battery size.
If you don't want a bigger phone, Your best bet would probably be to buy a second standard battery but it's a hassle to swap the battery when it's empty
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Yes it is possible. Search the Vibrant, and Fascinate/Mezmerize forum for examples.

Its about 6-7 days old, bought it on EBAY from this place:
http://www.ebay.com/sch/ladyblue1974/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_from=&_ipg=&_trksid=p3686

t1n0m3n said:
My point is this:
1. If the above statements about samsung packing in as much as possible are true, why didn't the vibrant have a 1800mAh battery from the start?
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Because it is a device from 2 years ago (2010) and the S2 is from q3 2011. Maybe two years allowed them to cram more juice into the battery.
Maybe it wasn't viable then, to stick such a large battery, considering the power consumption of the vibrant compared to the S2. Maybe if they did the price would have gone up.
I highly doubt that Samsung would just stick different stickers on the same capacity batteries. maybe you had a defective or a non-original one. There are people that measure this kind of stuff. How much damage would Samsung's image suffer if someone found out that they sell a 1000 mAh battery with different labels and price tags?

I got a gold 2430 mah battery from ebay. http://www.ebay.com/itm/2430MAH-HIG...093799?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item2c5edcdce7
i don't know about it holding 2430mah, but it's far better than my 1 year old stock battery. i can post some battery usage stats later.

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Flukzr said:
Maybe it wasn't viable then, to stick such a large battery, considering the power consumption of the vibrant compared to the S2. Maybe if they did the price would have gone up.
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Yes, as you so eloquently rephrased, "it's always about money." I noticed you left that part out of your quote of me.
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Flukzr said:
I highly doubt that Samsung would just stick different stickers on the same capacity batteries. maybe you had a defective or a non-original one. There are people that measure this kind of stuff. How much damage would Samsung's image suffer if someone found out that they sell a 1000 mAh battery with different labels and price tags?
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"Take a crap 1500 mAh battery" In this case "crap"="non oem"
I figured that would be obvious with my prior "phone hut" comment. I guess not.
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I am a big fan of the OEM batteries. I have not tested a non-oem battery that will perform anywhere close to the stated specifications so far.
If you guys find some good battery reviews, tests, etc. please post up.
Keep in mind that comparing a brand new "Craptastic Brand™" battery to your old worn out OEM battery is kind of pointless for getting a feel of the comparative quality/capacity of a battery.

klorin said:
I got a gold 2430 mah battery from ebay. http://www.ebay.com/itm/2430MAH-HIG...093799?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item2c5edcdce7
i don't know about it holding 2430mah, but it's far better than my 1 year old stock battery. i can post some battery usage stats later.
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Dude that looks good for $20! Post more details! I might be getting that
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klorin said:
I got a gold 2430 mah battery from ebay. http://www.ebay.com/itm/2430MAH-HIG...093799?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item2c5edcdce7
i don't know about it holding 2430mah, but it's far better than my 1 year old stock battery. i can post some battery usage stats later.
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is that battery same size like the original battery?
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yes tjackbjorn, same size

klorin said:
yes tjackbjorn, same size
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okey, does it work properly? Think I maybe buy one, it wasn't too expensive!
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yes, it works properly. I had used my original battery for 12 months when I switched over to this one. The improvement was very noticeable.
I just charged my phone to 99%, I will report back in 24 hours with battery information and battery history since unplugged.

Sounds great!

Replacement BL-53QH battery options?

I was about to buy a new standard battery. And it sort of struck me that - couldn't it be possible that someone had made a lithium polymer/synthetic battery in the same form-factor by now?
So... anyone know if there is such a thing on the market? I know there are a bunch of imitation batteries in different variants. But what about a synthetic battery that lasts a bit longer before the max charge drops?
Or, if that's not available - what do people recommend in the same form-factor as the original battery? A new original one, or a battery from a particular vendor, etc?

UIQrules said:
(...)But what about a synthetic battery that lasts a bit longer before the max charge drops?
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Only the original model ensures the best fit between charger (P880) and the battery.
Find out more on pages Battery University.

thanks, but should be technically possible, at least to build a polymer-battery at about the same form-factor, with a slightly higher charge, same voltage, same charger relay, etc. But ended up buying an original battery instead, of course ..

Why should someone build an enhanced battery for an obsolete device, which is out of production for years? The best you can get is old stock of original batteries (probably with some loss of capacity due to storage) and crappy chinese clones, which promise amazing numbers, but are actually much worse than the original.

hergen66 said:
The best you can get is old stock of original batteries (probably with some loss of capacity due to storage) and crappy chinese clones, which promise amazing numbers, but are actually much worse than the original.
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You can also get original(?) batteries (with stickers and everything) on eBay with claimed production dates of few months ago, that are totally useless and don't last half a day.
This is really disappointing since I still got a perfectly running P880 and can find various uses for it, but with an almost unusable battery it's a problem.
Anyone bought a decent battery lately (even if months ago)? Where from?

Dutch shop selling 3500mAh battery

Anybody maybe has experience with either this shop or the battery itself?
http://www.batterychampion.nl/shopBrowser.php?shopGroupId=48788243
Probably better to get original LG battery through ebay for example, but even then I think it's difficult to be sure you're getting the real deal..!

I don't know about the above link, but I purchased an LG G4 OEM battery from this seller on eBay and have been using it for a little over 2 weeks without any issues.
From appearances and usage, it operates as well as the original battery which came with my LG G4 and I believe this battery to be an LG G4 OEM battery.
After I inquired prior to purchase, the seller has 2 date batches available:
2015.06.02 and 2015.04.08 batches.
I chose the 2015.06.02 battery.
http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=201384473911&alt=web

flex0r said:
Anybody maybe has experience with either this shop or the battery itself?
http://www.batterychampion.nl/shopBrowser.php?shopGroupId=48788243
Probably better to get original LG battery through ebay for example, but even then I think it's difficult to be sure you're getting the real deal..!
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I would never buy a 3rd party battery that claims to hold more charge then the original battery
don't you think LG would cram 3500mah battery in G4 if it could? And there were no sudden advances in battery technology that would enable this manufacturer to cram 500mah more than LG itself..

I've tested the Mugen 3100 mAh battery for the G4 and that extra 100 mAh isn't much. Since usage varies day to day, the difference is negligible so it's no better a purchase than a stock 3000 mAh battery. In the case of the Mugen battery, I'd just buy an OEM battery or get two third party batteries for half the cost (I've had good experiences).
It doesn't look like this 3500 mAh is that much more expensive than an OEM battery so, if you weren't able to take advantage of one of the LG promotions, it should be a decent spare battery if you could trust this brand.
Still, if I didn't have my promotion battery, or my Mugen battery, or my Hyperion extended battery, I'd rather go the route of finding two 3000 mAh batteries for a good price.
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What's the best battery upgrade?

I recently just bought the 5X and I love it, yet the battery is used so I know it won't perform as good as if it was new, so what's a good battery to get? I'd prefer one that has a larger capacity than the stock, but doesn't require a modded back or anything

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I recently just bought the 5X and I love it, yet the battery is used so I know it won't perform as good as if it was new, so what's a good battery to get? I'd prefer one that has a larger capacity than the stock, but doesn't require a modded back or anything
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I've seen posts with users that performed the LG G2 battery mod (similar to the rage with the Nexus 5). IMO I wouldn't trust a ~3-3.5 year old battery however unless you somehow manage to source late-manufactured parts.

I'm actually looking at doing this myself. My current battery is dying. AccuBattery says my battery health is below 70%, and I'm only holding a 1,900mAh charge instead of the original 2,700mAh. The G2 battery is 3,000mAh. I bought a LG G2 battery (BL-T7), and a spare 5X battery (BL-T19) just in case it all goes south.
Doesn't look too hard to mod the battery, and then it's a drop in replacement. The two batteries are the same physical size, which makes it easier than the Nexus 5, which had a different size battery and required case modding.
I'm not sure how I feel about buying a G2 battery manufactured in 2013, but I doubt I could get a 5x battery made in the past 2 years anyways.

crazyates said:
I'm actually looking at doing this myself. My current battery is dying. AccuBattery says my battery health is below 70%, and I'm only holding a 1,900mAh charge instead of the original 2,700mAh. The G2 battery is 3,000mAh. I bought a LG G2 battery (BL-T7), and a spare 5X battery (BL-T19) just in case it all goes south.
Doesn't look too hard to mod the battery, and then it's a drop in replacement. The two batteries are the same physical size, which makes it easier than the Nexus 5, which had a different size battery and required case modding.
I'm not sure how I feel about buying a G2 battery manufactured in 2013, but I doubt I could get a 5x battery made in the past 2 years anyways.
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I got these 'OEM N5X' batteries, do they look legit: https://imgur.com/a/UROLN
Should I replaceme the battery in my brand new N5X from amazon with one of them, you think they will be better? Haven't opened the unit yet to compare the batteries - what dates of manufacturer do your batteries have guys? any newer than mine?

paradoxiumwind said:
I got these 'OEM N5X' batteries, do they look legit: https://imgur.com/a/UROLN
Should I replaceme the battery in my brand new N5X from amazon with one of them, you think they will be better? Haven't opened the unit yet to compare the batteries - what dates of manufacturer do your batteries have guys? any newer than mine?
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You will (possibly) have a fresh battery, but the capacity will be the same. Those batteries will be better than the one in your phone, but only because of age difference

BearOfXDA said:
You will (possibly) have a fresh battery, but the capacity will be the same. Those batteries will be better than the one in your phone, but only because of age difference
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Thanks, pretty much what I expected - but only if they are 100% genuine OEM - I read that most of these "OEM" batteries on ebay are just lower MaH batteries with proper stickers on them..

paradoxiumwind said:
I got these 'OEM N5X' batteries, do they look legit: https://imgur.com/a/UROLN
Should I replaceme the battery in my brand new N5X from amazon with one of them, you think they will be better? Haven't opened the unit yet to compare the batteries - what dates of manufacturer do your batteries have guys? any newer than mine?
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I got one of these: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01MQZV9ZV/ I figured for $12, I'd give it a shot. I knew it wasn't OEM, so I wasn't going to be offended if it wasn't a full 2,700mAh.
The one I got was manufactured in 2016. It started off with a ~2,400mAh charge, but I think it's already dropped to ~2,200 mAh after a week or so. It's better than the 1,800-1,900mAh I was at before, but not phenomenal.

how do you check capacity between battery swaps?

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how do you check capacity between battery swaps?
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Look on the battery, it should say on there somewhere. If not, use a battery check app

I am planning to do a little more. I have already ordered a spare battery and a back cover. I will be connecting the second battery in parallel and make a hole in the new battery cover I have ordered. For the hole, I will 3d print a fancy red cover and will stick there with superglue.
I am waiting for my order to reach, then I will update here too the result.

osamazhar said:
I am planning to do a little more. I have already ordered a spare battery and a back cover. I will be connecting the second battery in parallel and make a hole in the new battery cover I have ordered. For the hole, I will 3d print a fancy red cover and will stick there with superglue.
I am waiting for my order to reach, then I will update here too the result.
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So did you do it finally?

Battery replacment with higher capacity

Hey everyone,
Just wanted to know if anyone has had any experience with using third party batteries for the N950. Specifically batteries with extended capacity. I have seen a handful of these batteries which say they have a 3600mah capacity over the stock battery capacity of 3300mah. They also say that they are Li-Po over the stock Li-Ion.
I cant post the link due to XDA rules but there are batteries available on Amazon under the title :
Galaxy Note 8 Battery ZURUN 3600mAh Li-Polymer Battery
The battery appears to have good ratings and would be a fitting upgrade for a decayed battery. I'm just asking if anybody with experience would recommend these batteries, are they real(in terms of spec), would the higher capacity effect the device negatively? And most importantly are they safe?
Any help would be appreciated!

AndoridUser said:
Hey everyone,
Just wanted to know if anyone has had any experience with using third party batteries for the N950. Specifically batteries with extended capacity. I have seen a handful of these batteries which say they have a 3600mah capacity over the stock battery capacity of 3300mah. They also say that they are Li-Po over the stock Li-Ion.
I cant post the link due to XDA rules but there are batteries available on Amazon under the title :
Galaxy Note 8 Battery ZURUN 3600mAh Li-Polymer Battery
The battery appears to have good ratings and would be a fitting upgrade for a decayed battery. I'm just asking if anybody with experience would recommend these batteries, are they real(in terms of spec), would the higher capacity effect the device negatively? And most importantly are they safe?
Any help would be appreciated!
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Although I have no experience with batteries for the Note 8 as of yet, but from previous experience, I would recommend only official batteries. Even if these non official batteries are the correct mah, they will not have the same amount of cycles, so you will probably go through 2 or 3 of these batteries for the life of the official one.

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Although I have no experience with batteries for the Note 8 as of yet, but from previous experience, I would recommend only official batteries. Even if these non official batteries are the correct mah, they will not have the same amount of cycles, so you will probably go through 2 or 3 of these batteries for the life of the official one.
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Yeah good point, quite a gamble in the sense of charge cycles. Thanks for the advice!

AndoridUser said:
Yeah good point, quite a gamble in the sense of charge cycles. Thanks for the advice!
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I have had my Note 8 since the day it came out and I'm still using the same battery and I still get well over 8 hours of usage before I need to recharge it. I only charge it to 90% and I never let it discharge fully it's usually back on the charger whenever it gets near 20%. A friend of mine decided to put a 4,000 mah battery in his Note 8 only to find out that it wouldn't charge to 4,000 and it was dying much much faster than the original battery and it took even longer for it to charge back up so I wouldn't recommend getting aftermarket parts for it.

MrMike2182 said:
I have had my Note 8 since the day it came out and I'm still using the same battery and I still get well over 8 hours of usage before I need to recharge it. I only charge it to 90% and I never let it discharge fully it's usually back on the charger whenever it gets near 20%. A friend of mine decided to put a 4,000 mah battery in his Note 8 only to find out that it wouldn't charge to 4,000 and it was dying much much faster than the original battery and it took even longer for it to charge back up so I wouldn't recommend getting aftermarket parts for it.
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Huh, as for my device, I got it recently pre owned however the previous owner didn't take anywhere near as much care of my device as it seems your taking care of yours. So the battery capacity is pretty decayed and I've found it hard to get a healthy OEM battery online.
With my current new but unhealthy battery I wouldn't be able to protect it as I would like to by using the charging ranges you do. Tho I do really want to!
So I was thinking a new third party battery could be better than a 'new' oem. But again just another gamble it seems haha.
Thanks a lot for your advice!

AndoridUser said:
Huh, as for my device, I got it recently pre owned however the previous owner didn't take anywhere near as much care of my device as it seems your taking care of yours. So the battery capacity is pretty decayed and I've found it hard to get a healthy OEM battery online.
With my current new but unhealthy battery I wouldn't be able to protect it as I would like to by using the charging ranges you do. Tho I do really want to!
So I was thinking a new third party battery could be better than a 'new' oem. But again just another gamble it seems haha.
Thanks a lot for your advice!
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Ifixit, who are reputable imo, have a link for the official battery . I would advise skipping Amazon/Ebay for it. Although it is €25, it is worth it. (They also sell all the tools you will need for replacing it and all the steps!
https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Samsung+Galaxy+Note8+Battery+Replacement/112251
Link for battery
https://eustore.ifixit.com/products/galaxy-note8-replacement-battery

AndoridUser said:
Huh, as for my device, I got it recently pre owned however the previous owner didn't take anywhere near as much care of my device as it seems your taking care of yours. So the battery capacity is pretty decayed and I've found it hard to get a healthy OEM battery online.
With my current new but unhealthy battery I wouldn't be able to protect it as I would like to by using the charging ranges you do. Tho I do really want to!
So I was thinking a new third party battery could be better than a 'new' oem. But again just another gamble it seems haha.
Thanks a lot for your advice!
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As far as I know this company has OEM batteries. https://www.samsung-parts.net/epage...ath=/Shops/Samsung-Parts/Products/GH82-15090A

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Ifixit, who are reputable imo, have a link for the official battery . I would advise skipping Amazon/Ebay for it. Although it is €25, it is worth it. (They also sell all the tools you will need for replacing it and all the steps!
https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Samsung+Galaxy+Note8+Battery+Replacement/112251
Link for battery
https://eustore.ifixit.com/products/galaxy-note8-replacement-battery
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Oh awesome, I'd much rather pay the extra than buy loads and gamble each time haha. Thanks!

MrMike2182 said:
As far as I know this company has OEM batteries. https://www.samsung-parts.net/epage...ath=/Shops/Samsung-Parts/Products/GH82-15090A
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Thanks, I'll definitely give it a look when I buy my next battery!