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Nexus One market life span?

Hey guys,
I've been looking to buy a Nexus, however Im hesitant because of all the rapid improvements to smart-phones lately. Seems like just yesterday my G1 was the **** because of its 528mhz processor.. But if I were to lay down the $500+ for it, I would hate for the "Nexus 2" to come out a month later.. accompanied by the regret and face palms. Of course, I'm not expecting that specific scenario to unfold, but how long do you think the specs for the N1 will last as a competitive player in the field? And do you think it's safe to say the upcoming android updates we have yet to experience will be compatible with it?
-Thanks for your input!

The Nexus One is a great phone, but as with the G1 ALL technology is eventually replaced, I chose the nexus one becuase its Googles phone, which means if any phone has a chance to still be the beta tester for all android things to come it would be the nexus one. The Evo and Incredible are all basically re-branded Nexus One's, same hardware different software. The nexus one was my first smartphone, actually my first phone ever (my parents hate tech lol) and I've seen people with their iphones and bberries and I pull out my nexus one and KNOW without a shadow of a doubt I have the best phone. If the nexus one looks appealing to you and you are happy with what it can do, I say you wont be dissapointed. But, if you are hesitant and iffy on the purchase, perhaps wait and see whats around Androids corner. I love my nexus one and from what I see from competitive android smartphones and still think mine is the best.
-Cheers with your decision

Sell your G1, use the money towards the N1... Do it soon, buying the N1 via google won't last much longer, once retailers get ahold of it it'll cost considerably more.
The rumor/heresay is that the N2 will be out in Nov. Then just repeat the cycle of selling old, use money towards the new one.
Kind of like you're leasing the best phone at the moment

If you say n2 will come and will wait, and when the n2 comes out ou can wait for the n3. you can do two things.
Buy a new phone, and sell it after few months to buy a new one. if you sell it before a newer version comes out you can sell it almost the same price you bought it. put some extre $ and buy a new one. I do this > i had over 30 phones in my life > i'm 22 years now
or what you also can do is skip a generation. so if you buy n1 skip n2 and wait for n3 (for example). so you can use you don't have to switch phones that often.

I bought the N1 as my first smartphone and have been very happy with it. I would say it will last a while since Google demonstrated their new OS (Android 2.2) on it and also previewed the release after that on a N1. That gave me hope to know that it will work with the release of 2.2 and also the release after that. Whether they will continue to release the new OS for it after that is unknown, but there are always custom ROMs that could add functionality.

Go For It
I say buy the N1 if you like it. Yeah, there's no front-facing camera, gyroscope, or whatever else the next line of premium Android phones will all contain. It is still going to receive Google's updates first for at least another year. Also, as with the G1, the dev community is doing excellent work and should have no problem extending it's life even further beyond that. If the G1 is still going almost 2 years and numerous updates later, Nexus owners have nothing to worry about.

Namuna said:
Sell your G1, use the money towards the N1... Do it soon, buying the N1 via google won't last much longer, once retailers get ahold of it it'll cost considerably more.
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I don't think so. It will be aggressively priced once it hits retailers. Or may be bundled with some accessories.

Either act today, or wait 6 months. This market moves fast.

seriously this thread has been posted so many times before. just search. the nexus will be the flagship until next january for sure. it still has a long life left, so buy it and enjoy it. nexus two isnt even a rumor yet, and wouldnt be out till next year.

Motorola has a 2ghz phone hitting store before the end of the year, with 1080P vide out.
You're never gonna be "top of the line" for more than 6 months.

subramanianv said:
I don't think so. It will be aggressively priced once it hits retailers. Or may be bundled with some accessories.
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I already see it listed at various other places for $650+.
Somehow, I doubt that will come down once buying straight from the "manufacturer" for "cheap" is no longer an option.

Things to do while waiting for my Nexus 7 to arrive

I admit being a complete noob on the Android subject. I ordered my Nexus 7 16GB on july 9th and it will be (finally!) delivered tomorrow (the 30th). I live in Canada, and the wait has been agonizing. I ordered directly from Google Play.
So, what to do while I was waiting and impatiently checking my emails from Google? I've learned a lot from these forums. First, getting prepared for rooting this device:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1766475
I've read all the thread and since I'm using Windows 7 64-bits, I think I'm ready to cope with the driver issue some users have.
Secondly, I'm aware that I could get a N7 that has the screen separation issue so I also prepared myself to deal with it if it's the only problem and it's not too severe to return the device:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1800418
This fix seems to be the most promising one amidst the ton of threads and posts I've read.
I've also learned how to make a nandroid backup with the CWM recovery and I may spend a part of my $25 Google credit on Rom Manager Pro.
I plan to use the N7 mostly as an ebook reader, retrogaming through emulators, light surfing. Any other suggestions from you, Android experts?

Yup when I waited for my nexus 7. I got all the tools ready, rom, kernel, and root toolkit.
I ordered mine on the 7th and was able to pick it up on the 13th. From Gamestop

Moto Announcement Today

Did anyone else come across this today and feel at all "not forgotten" by Moto for once?'
http://www.mobileburn.com/20436/new...es-soon-100-credit-for-non-upgradeable-phones

What about non US people who have a droid 3... ?
Also: can't get updated?? If hash can get 512mb ducati/kernel stuff for D3 you're not telling me motorola can't.

That may not be a bad thing.

not forgotten? how about forgotten and abused. (unless of course you spend good money with us again to replace a phone you shouldnt have to)
so you release a phone. in less than 6 months you release its successor. then you fail to provide any support or updates. you leave it off the ics upgrade path.
then you come out with another phone less than a year later, and offer $100 off? screw you moto.
sorry we completely screwed you on your prior purchase, but please buy another of our phones. it has what yours should have. no thanks.
the only way moto would get a positive point in my book is if they kept the promise to unlock the D3 bootloader, which we all know will never ever happen.

redsox985 said:
Did anyone else come across this today and feel at all "not forgotten" by Moto for once?'
http://www.mobileburn.com/20436/new...es-soon-100-credit-for-non-upgradeable-phones
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I wonder how the 100 dollar credit will work. I know it will only work on Moto phones.
If it's for an upgrade at a Verizon store, it's worthless. I would lose my unlimited contract.
If it's for an upgrade at wholesale, it's a better than nothing, but I wouldn't likely go for it (unless they have an unlocked kickass phone coming out in the next 3 months).
If it's a 100 dollar upgrade from any store, including a used one on E-bay, I would actually consider it.
Until then, 250 for a used Galaxy Nexus, is very tempting.

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What about non US people who have a droid 3... ?
Also: can't get updated?? If hash can get 512mb ducati/kernel stuff for D3 you're not telling me motorola can't.
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Well Motorola/Verizon have to add all of the bloatware on top so it would probably not run the smoothest. Stock GB with all of its bloatware struggles with RAM. I have Android ICS x86 with Gapps in Virtualbox and set the RAM to the total amount that the Droid 3 reports ~375MB. ICS has quite a bit more free RAM than my stock GB which has all bloatware frozen.
As far as the $100 upgrade offer, the Droid 3 is still going for over $100 on ebay used but that may change by next year. The Razr M does look pretty nice, I can't stand the big screen phones that are coming out and the Razr M manages to pack a 4.3" screen with smaller dimensions than the Droid 3. If they come out with a keyboard version it would be tempting.

vbhokiefan said:
not forgotten? how about forgotten and abused. (unless of course you spend good money with us again to replace a phone you shouldnt have to)
so you release a phone. in less than 6 months you release its successor. then you fail to provide any support or updates. you leave it off the ics upgrade path.
then you come out with another phone less than a year later, and offer $100 off? screw you moto.
sorry we completely screwed you on your prior purchase, but please buy another of our phones. it has what yours should have. no thanks.
the only way moto would get a positive point in my book is if they kept the promise to unlock the D3 bootloader, which we all know will never ever happen.
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$100 off is completely worthless. If I want to upgrade now in the middle of a contract cycle Verizon lists a Droid 4 for $549 so even at $100 off its still $449 and I'm way better off just waiting another year for my next contract renewal. The only way it helps me is if I can file away that discount to be used in September of 2013.

We were never in the pipeline for ICS let alone Jellybean. This is the "carrot before the horse" trick. Not even well played, Moto is dead in the water. Nexus is the future of Android. Still love my brick though.

I feel like Moto realized that they just might be able to squeeze a little bit more money out of us. Sort of a "who else is there to exploit?" kind of thing. Not sure I like it better.

Anyone Pre-order a Galaxy Tab S From AT&T?

I pre-ordered an 8.4 and it's due to ship September 23. I've been salivating over the Tab S ever since the WiFi models dropped a couple of months ago. Just a few more days and the wait is finally over!

I just pre ordered after playing with the tab s 8.4 at bestbuy... Excited!!!

I don't understand "Pre-ordering"
So let me get this straight. Manufacturers want us to pay now for something they are not even selling yet. They want to take our money now but not actually give us anything for it until later. All for the "privilege" of owning it a few days before other people. Does that about sum it up?
I fully understand why the manufacturers like this arrangement. Get the money now and deliver later makes great sense for them. To me though, it makes absolutely no sense for the consumer.
Every time I watch the iSheep line up outside an Apple Store I think: "So what? Are they going to run out? Actually they might if you feel you must have one the first day (though I fail to see the practical advantage of that - they will keep making them after all). If I wait until next week will I not be able to buy one (hint: Yes I will be able to buy one next week)? Will they say, no you did not pre-order or stand in line all night so you don't get one?" I sort of doubt that will happen. They will still want my money next week. In fact, wait a little longer (for anything that's not an "i" product) and the price will actually go down.

ratman6161 said:
So let me get this straight. Manufacturers want us to pay now for something they are not even selling yet. They want to take our money now but not actually give us anything for it until later. All for the "privilege" of owning it a few days before other people. Does that about sum it up?
I fully understand why the manufacturers like this arrangement. Get the money now and deliver later makes great sense for them. To me though, it makes absolutely no sense for the consumer.
Every time I watch the iSheep line up outside an Apple Store I think: "So what? Are they going to run out? Actually they might if you feel you must have one the first day (though I fail to see the practical advantage of that - they will keep making them after all). If I wait until next week will I not be able to buy one (hint: Yes I will be able to buy one next week)? Will they say, no you did not pre-order or stand in line all night so you don't get one?" I sort of doubt that will happen. They will still want my money next week. In fact, wait a little longer (for anything that's not an "i" product) and the price will actually go down.
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If you continually wait for a lower price or the new device that's just around the corner, you'll never own anything. I pre-ordered because I could. I've been waiting for an LTE Galaxy Tab S ever since the WiFi models launched 3 months ago. I pre-ordered so that I can save myself the 20 minute drive to my closest AT&T corporate store and instead have my tablet shipped to my house and have it a couple of days early. There is no premium to be paid for pre-ordering. Sure, you're giving them money before you get the device, but there's no risk there. You'll get your device.

oldblue910 said:
If you continually wait for a lower price or the new device that's just around the corner, you'll never own anything. I pre-ordered because I could. I've been waiting for an LTE Galaxy Tab S ever since the WiFi models launched 3 months ago. I pre-ordered so that I can save myself the 20 minute drive to my closest AT&T corporate store and instead have my tablet shipped to my house and have it a couple of days early. There is no premium to be paid for pre-ordering. Sure, you're giving them money before you get the device, but there's no risk there. You'll get your device.
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Or you could just get it from Amazon with (typically) free two day shipping. No 20 minute drive required and (also typically) notably cheaper than getting the device elsewhere. For example, a Verizon Galaxy s5 phone is currently $199 with contract direct from Verizon but $79.99 on Amazon.

ratman6161 said:
Or you could just get it from Amazon with (typically) free two day shipping. No 20 minute drive required and (also typically) notably cheaper than getting the device elsewhere.
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You can't buy the AT&T version on Amazon right now, nor will you until some 3rd party seller decides to sell them. Sometimes they're cheaper, sometimes they aren't. There are sellers on Amazon selling the international LTE models, but those are useless to me because they don't work with US LTE bands. What works for you works for you. Pre-ordering works for me. All good.
Also, your example of the VZW Galaxy S5 is pointless in my situation because I don't buy devices on contract. Amazon doesn't compete on full retail price.

ratman6161 said:
So let me get this straight. Manufacturers want us to pay now for something they are not even selling yet. They want to take our money now but not actually give us anything for it until later. All for the "privilege" of owning it a few days before other people. Does that about sum it up?
I fully understand why the manufacturers like this arrangement. Get the money now and deliver later makes great sense for them. To me though, it makes absolutely no sense for the consumer.
Every time I watch the iSheep line up outside an Apple Store I think: "So what? Are they going to run out? Actually they might if you feel you must have one the first day (though I fail to see the practical advantage of that - they will keep making them after all). If I wait until next week will I not be able to buy one (hint: Yes I will be able to buy one next week)? Will they say, no you did not pre-order or stand in line all night so you don't get one?" I sort of doubt that will happen. They will still want my money next week. In fact, wait a little longer (for anything that's not an "i" product) and the price will actually go down.
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They actually don't get the money until the item ships just like any other purchase. You're only reserving a device or place in line if you will. I have to admit thou I enjoy the "privilege" of owning a few days early as most on this site do.
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oldblue910 said:
I pre-ordered an 8.4 and it's due to ship September 23. I've been salivating over the Tab S ever since the WiFi models dropped a couple of months ago. Just a few more days and the wait is finally over!
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I want to pre-order, but I am going to wait until a few days before the Galaxy Note 4 release. I am hoping there will be a bundle deal with the Phone and Tablet. I will probley buy on the 5th of October so that I an return if a bundle happens.

So, do you have it in hand yet? How bad is the ATT bloat? Samsung bloat is bad enough (I have a Note 10 with a load disabled), but the tablets are nice. I'm waiting on the Nexus 9 for comparison, but interested in an ~8" tab by the end of the year.

Note10.1Dude said:
So, do you have it in hand yet? How bad is the ATT bloat? Samsung bloat is bad enough (I have a Note 10 with a load disabled), but the tablets are nice. I'm waiting on the Nexus 9 for comparison, but interested in an ~8" tab by the end of the year.
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Mine will be here Friday.

oldblue910 said:
Mine will be here Friday.
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Did you get confirmation? I preordered the Sept 20th and it still hasn't shipped yet according to the website

Anyone receive their AT&T model yet? Does it have the Snapdragon or Exynos processor?

Mine is due Saturday (tomorrow). Will report back once I get it. I was able to verify that the Sprint Tab S 10.5 has a Snapdragon, though.

It seems like only Sprint/Verizon got the Snapdragon. AT&T lists the Exynos Octa on their website.
Damn.

Got mine yesterday. Can't wait for it to be rooted. It is a quadcore. Not the octocore.
EDIT: I was wrong it is Octo

SB1205 said:
Got mine yesterday. Can't wait for it to be rooted. It is a quadcore. Not the octocore.
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You have the AT&T model and it has the Snapdragon 800? Could you post a CPU-Z screenshot?
Now my wifi version is going back to the store

Correction... The application I used to verify was wrong. Did it with CPU-Z... Verified it is the Octocore.

Hear that? Thats the sound of you shattering my dreams with a sledgehammer, you monster.
Thanks for looking into it!

ap27 said:
Hear that? Thats the sound of you shattering my dreams with a sledgehammer, you monster.
Thanks for looking into it!
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Haha yeah, my bad.

ap27 said:
Hear that? Thats the sound of you shattering my dreams with a sledgehammer, you monster.
Thanks for looking into it!
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yet another suspect move from samsung i see...so it seems that the only versions of the TAB S to get the snapdragon are the cdma variants although hopefully thats not SUCH a bad thing but please see below for more info
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Got mine yesterday. Can't wait for it to be rooted. It is a quadcore. Not the octocore.
EDIT: I was wrong it is Octo
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oldblue910 said:
Mine is due Saturday (tomorrow). Will report back once I get it. I was able to verify that the Sprint Tab S 10.5 has a Snapdragon, though.
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well...the POSSIBLE good news is that the current root method SHOULD still work with the gsm version as well as my SuperSamsung rom. So which ever one of u brave souls will be bold enough to test that please report back with your results....i'm assuming that the phone is disabled which means no calls on the ATT tab as it always is with every other samsung device? If so then i have created a modem thread which MAY help us out with that so once again whoever attempts to root would also need to flash that (link below)....if either of u guys locate an odin package for the ATT version (sprint/verizon too but for other purposes) then PLEASE provide me a link oh and if ANYONE figued out how to get this tablet to flash with heimdall a lil help would DEFINITELY be appreciated. Hopefully we wont run into locked bootloaders on the SM-T707A (could one of u please confirm if this is the correct/exact model number)...if i find out that flashing the brazillian radio will in fact enable voice with LTE bands then i will throw my T705 in the bushes in a heartbeat :laugh:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-tab-s/development/wip-lte-bands-usa-t2875561
^USA LTE & TALK THREAD

I don't think that CDMA has anything to do with it. I think it's more a question of size. The 10.5" LTE Tab S has a Snapdragon while the 8.4" LTE Tab S retains the Exynos. Why? I have no clue. An easy way to see if I'm right would be to see what T-Mobile's 10.5 has when it launches. If it too has a Snapdragon, then I think it's safe to say it's based on size.

Very disappointing development of CC's

I was very excited when the CC came out. I took the plunge and bought a couple. Then when the exploit was released, I bought another 4, so I have 6 in total and I was really looking forward to seeing how they developed, both from google and devs.
But then it seems to have stagnated. Nothing of real interest has come along. I even updated one of mine with a google unrootable last update as I didn't want to have to wait for the custom to catch up. There is no huge benefit to having root. It is a shame that there has been no big development in a custom rom and it really has no great advantage to what the vanilla CC can do.
For Christmas I bought a amazon fire box and that is absolutely brilliant. Rooted it is a joy and ok, costs twice the CC but it is still cheap. I wish I could trade by CC 2:1 for rooted ATV's, I would get far more use out of them.
Hopefully google will realise that the other sticks are far far more useful and will do something about it. I fear they won't and Amazon will get more of my custom

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I was very excited when the CC came out. I took the plunge and bought a couple. Then when the exploit was released, I bought another 4, so I have 6 in total and I was really looking forward to seeing how they developed, both from google and devs.
But then it seems to have stagnated. Nothing of real interest has come along. I even updated one of mine with a google unrootable last update as I didn't want to have to wait for the custom to catch up. There is no huge benefit to having root. It is a shame that there has been no big development in a custom rom and it really has no great advantage to what the vanilla CC can do.
For Christmas I bought a amazon fire box and that is absolutely brilliant. Rooted it is a joy and ok, costs twice the CC but it is still cheap. I wish I could trade by CC 2:1 for rooted ATV's, I would get far more use out of them.
Hopefully google will realise that the other sticks are far far more useful and will do something about it. I fear they won't and Amazon will get more of my custom
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There really isn't much to develop on the hardware side...
Most of the development has been on the App Support side.