Has anyone tried using a Verizon sim in this phone since the specs do say it supports band 13? I saw where someone said that data would work, but no phone since the phone doesn't support CDMA. Just curious because the new HTC One A9 is going to have no CDMA with LTE band 13 and will support Verizon LTE only. Any thoughts or comments? I hate being on Verizon sometimes, they got great coverage but hopefully they will kill off the CDMA in 2016 like has been stated before and use VOLTE only.
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I bought a Axon Pro just to test this. Previously I wrote the bible on using the Xperia Z3 Compact on Verizon as a VoLTE-only phone:
http://www.christopherprice.net/sony-xperia-z3-compact-lte-phone-verizon-wireless-3199.html
I can confirm the Axon Pro works on Verizon similarly. But, unfortunately, ZTE removed the VoLTE option - or hasn't added it as of 5.1.1.
It seems Verizon is aggressively discouraging this path for now. The HTC A9 had to drop Verizon certification, and HTC had to refund anyone that bought it intending to work on Verizon. I still haven't been able to test the Z3 or Axon with Marshmallow VoLTE, either.
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hi really want the new droid 4 coming out but im going to uk in a couple of weeks and just want to know if it will be realeased in the UK or Australia and will the U S version work in Australia
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will motorola droid 4 work in uk or aus?
will motorola droid 4 also work in hk??
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I think the title sure is..
will motorola droid 4 work in uk or aus?
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Is that better or is there a problem
GSMArena have it listed as supporting 900/2100MHz UMTS 3G. That means Optus/Voafone/Virgin in Australia, all UK networks, and any UMTS provider in Hong Kong except NTT DoCoMo.
In my experience, GSMArena usually f*ck up their frequency listings a lot.
It would be a huge departure for Verizon to make their new world phones 900/2100MHz when ALL the other world phones they've released are 850/1900/2100. Plus it would make the majority of their roaming agreements with partners useless.
I think it's pretty safe to say it will be at least 850/1900, perhaps 850/1900/2100. That means if your network uses 900MHz you're out of luck.
EDIT: Old thread, sorry. Have no idea why this one popped up!
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will motorola droid 4 also work in hk??
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you are from hk?? me too.
Droid 4 can be working in hk because it is a cdma/gsm device, BUT verizon has locked down the gsm.
so basically, it wont work
DROID 4 is not a GLOBAL phone. It will only work on Verizon network.
ifixit's teardown has a chip identification:
http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Motorola-Droid-4-Teardown/7759/2
Has a Qualcomm MDM6600 chip:
from wikipedia:
MDM6600™:
Multi-mode modem
HSPA+ with data rates of up to 14.4 Mbit/s
CDMA2000® 1xEV-DO Rev. A/Rev. B support
GPS functionality, including support for Assisted GPS
I'm out of my element here, but that suggests global capability....as to whether it can actually be used, I haven't a clue.
Found some info here http://www.gobi.com/resources#Documentation
Specifically the Gobi3000 product sheet http://www.gobi.com/sites/default/files/Gobi3000r4.pdf
It seems like the chipset can support everything, but CDMA and GSM support are in two separate firmware images. Also even if the chipset has support, there's no guarantee that the requisite antennas and such are connected. But I've already read a few places that Motorola/Verizon plans to enable global roaming with a firmware update in the future, so I'd guess the hardware support is already in place.
The doc doesn't list support for 1700MHz AWS in the frequency list, but it does say "Prepared for UMTS-AWS" which implies that it could be supported with additional tweaks. So probably no US T-Mobile 3G support out of the box, dunno.
Hi,
i'm from italy, anyone know if motorola & verizon release Droid 4 for Europe ( milestone 4 ) with all gsm band? same the droid 1 and 2 released for EU with name milestone 1 and 2.
i read some rumors about a possible declaration of milestone 4 on Mobile World Congress 2012.
thnx
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hi really want the new droid 4 coming out but im going to uk in a couple of weeks and just want to know if it will be realeased in the UK or Australia and will the U S version work in Australia
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I'm not sure, but the Droid 4 does use a GSM Sim, and that would make me think that you could pic up a Sim in country and put it in your phone. I mean if you don't have to unlock your phone first.
I'm interested in this one too!
My carrier uses 900 and 2100mhz for hsdpa...
Apparently, the Droid 4 will have GSM roaming eventually.
http://www.theverge.com/2012/1/12/2...-and-lg-spectrum-will-have-global-gsm-roaming
There are a lot of possible show stoppers.
First, I don't think that this was an official VZW statement.
And, even if they will make GSM/HSPA work, it's unclear if and how SIM unlocking will work.
Let's see how it will work out with the xyboard tablets ...
The problem is D4 has dedicated LTE radio now which requires SIM card. My guess ia the Verizon's SIM is only compatible with their own network and can't do roaming just yet. Issue could not be technical at all. To be safe they decided to lock down GSM/HSPA radio for now. Once they figure out how their SIM cards can roam properly on other providers, they will likely push OTA update to enable the HSPA settings.
Verizon doesn't care if we want to use another sim card. Will likely make everything possible to prevent us from doing so. They however want their clients to pay for roaming badly. I am sure the matter will be resolved as this is a big revenue point for them.
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Yeah, LTE uses GSM... there is no CDMA LTE connection which is why all the 4g phones have GSM frequency capability, but Verizon has them on a tight lock. It is possible for them to allow you to use in certain GSM areas but I don't think they would unlock it to be used with any other service.
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Droid 4 can be working in hk because it is a cdma/gsm device, BUT verizon has locked down the gsm.
so basically, it wont work
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The challenge isn't the hardware, but rather that the Droid 4 is a Verizon exclusive currently.
Thomas is correct; the radios have more flexibility than Verizon has allowed it. They have announced that sometime this year they will enable global roaming for the phone via their networks, which to me says firmware push.
I am hopeful that Moto will eventually release a GSM-friendly unlocked version, a la the Milestone vs the original Droid.
I know the Verizon version has a locked bootloader but Verizon phones do come unlocked. Does anyone know if the 2014 Moto X will work on T-Mobile? I know it has the correct bands but the LTE/HSPA switchoff has issues maybe? I tried searching but couldn't find anything beyond a video saying they could get up to 3G and that was it.
Asking because someone is selling a Verizon Moto X to me for 250 and it seems like a great deal.
I wish I could give you a definitive answer. I had my VZ note 3 running on T mobile with full LTE band 4. I am not sure whether you can add the new VPN without root. Here is the thread for adding the T mobile VPN. Hopefully someone can expand on this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2582747
From what I can tell, the CDMA version doesn't have the 1700 band for 4G (HSPA+). Without that, you'll only have 4G (HSPA+) in areas where the 1900 spectrum was refarmed, which is usually major cities. Looks like it definitely has 4G (LTE) on band 4 though.
Short answer: Yes it should work. Also, for 250, you might as well try it and then sell it if it doesn't work out for you.
I noticed on the specifications list that the international LTE version has some of the same LTE bands as the Verizon LTE version. Would the international LTE version of the S2 be at all usable on Verizon's network?
Which variant? I don't remember seeing any international variants with LTE B13 support. In any case, there is no CDMA in the international variants and I strongly doubt you could use them on Verizon.
Is B13 the one Verizon uses in the U.S.? I was just looking at the one on amazon listed as "international LTE". I didn't realize there were multiple versions of that. I also got the impression from reading around here that Verizon's LTE was more or less the same as everyone else's because CDMA just isn't capable of the modern band width requirements. That was a long time ago though and I may have misunderstood.
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Is B13 the one Verizon uses in the U.S.? I was just looking at the one on amazon listed as "international LTE". I didn't realize there were multiple versions of that. I also got the impression from reading around here that Verizon's LTE was more or less the same as everyone else's because CDMA just isn't capable of the modern band width requirements. That was a long time ago though and I may have misunderstood.
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Yes, B13 is Verizon's main LTE band in the US.
You say main as if there are others. Does Verizon use other bands too? At all?
In certain areas Verizon also supplements coverage with bands 2 and/or 4. Eventually they are also expected to deploy on band 5.
Thank-you for repeatedly taking the time to answer my questions. I appreciate it.
I live around the Baltimore area so I imagine they might have need to supplement with the additional bands around here. The international Tab S2 being sold on Amazon does support bands 2, 4, and 5. No 13 though. So assuming Verizon has deployed band(s) 2, 4, or 5 in the area the question remains: Would the international Tab S2 receive LTE service? Someone must have tried it by now.
Have any other "international" samsung devices been able to receive Verizon service in the US?
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Thank-you for repeatedly taking the time to answer my questions. I appreciate it.
I live around the Baltimore area so I imagine they might have need to supplement with the additional bands around here. The international Tab S2 being sold on Amazon does support bands 2, 4, and 5. No 13 though. So assuming Verizon has deployed band(s) 2, 4, or 5 in the area the question remains: Would the international Tab S2 receive LTE service? Someone must have tried it by now.
Have any other "international" samsung devices been able to receive Verizon service in the US?
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What you are trying to do is just a bad idea unfortunately. Even if you could activate it (which I doubt you could in the first place), the supplemental bands are high frequency bands and you may well run into situations where you won't have any coverage at all because you couldn't pick up band 13 (which is a low frequency band that penetrates into buildings much better than bands 2 or 4).
Why not just buy the Verizon model?
That is very helpful and insightful info. Thank-you.
For my purposes the tablet will be used mostly for entertainment purposes. I have a galaxy S4 (mdk bootloader) phone for serious communication needs. I was just thinking that there may be a performance advantage if I could swap the sim card from my S4 into the tablet and get internet (where available on bands 2, 4, 5) directly from LTE rather then from the wifi hotspot on the S4. I figured it may not work all the time but if it did some of the time it would justify buying the device with capability, all else being equal.
I would absolutely buy the verizon model if it wasn't boot-loader locked. It sounds like noone has been able to hack a ssmsung/verizon device for the last few generations so I'm not holding my breath.
(The info you've been giving will also be handy when it comes time to replace my & wife's S4 phones which will probably be in the next year.)
Oh, ok, I see, your issue is with the bootloader. Yeah, that's a problem.
I am also using an S4 on a CDMA carrier (Sprint). Planning on getting a Nexus 5X soon. It's nice in that unlike Samsung and their plethora of variants of the same device for each country, there is just one Nexus model for all carriers in the US, and it's also unlocked right out of the box.
Not sure if this is the correct forum but I can't seem to find anything about using VZ G4 on T-mobile? I don't mind if it need to be rooted, just want a stable setting that I can do. TIA.
Unless something has changed lately, you can't. Verizon uses CDMA for its voice network and T-Mobile uses GSM.
With that being said, the only way I've seen any Verizon phone being used on a GSM network is if the phone supports a SIM card (and I'm not sure the SIM card for the LTE counts) and the phone is unlocked to use international SIM cards (which, by default, will allow it to use T-Mobile). There's a catch to that, however. You may not be able to use the optimum frequencies T-Mobile uses if the Verizon phone doesn't support them, which may cause a less than desirable experience with your phone.
An unlocked AT&T G4 would be a better bet. Some international versions of the phone may also be better than the Verizon version. You'll have to do some research on the last one.
In the past I know Verizon would let their cdma/gsm phones work with international sim cards but not att or t-mobile. The verizon g4 supports lte bands 2 and 4 and that's the two main bands that t-mobile uses. It's not clear from the tech specs if the phone supports wcdma but if it does not you might drop to edge while on a call.
like tkirton said you would be much better off with a phone that's intended mainly for GSM. t-mobile branded phones, newer nexus phones(6 and later), and the iphone also have the advantage of volte and wifi calling.
My Verizon G2 worked on T-Mobile and Cricket which as both GSM. I got LTE also, but you'll loose LTE on calls, and probably won't have HD voice. So, G4 might be the same.
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My Verizon G2 worked on T-Mobile and Cricket which as both GSM. I got LTE also, but you'll loose LTE on calls, and probably won't have HD voice. So, G4 might be the same.
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i can backup/confirm this, i was using the G2 (VS980 Verizon) with T-mobile and i was getting nice LTE Speed in my area but loose some T-Mo features of course....
For users of Laser 2 - ZE551KL (Z00T) : T-Mobile US uses in some areas the Band 12 LTE, and our devices officially have only Band 17 LTE - they are both 700MHz bands (LTE 12 includes blocks A, B and lower C, while LTE 17 includes only blocks B and lower C).
I wonder if the latest firmware (Version WW_1.17.40.1234 with radio baseband 202c10_10.0.0_160304) did anything about the compatibility with band 12 (the release notes said something about "Improve 4G connectivity" and "Suggest to update for connection quality improved").
Does anyone have experience with T-Mobile US on the above phone? Is LTE available in all the areas where it should be (based on T-Mobile map) or you get dropped to 3G (H+) in some areas?
Supposedly the radio supports Band 12, but T-mobile doesn't think it supports VoLTE, so T-Mobile won't allow you to use Band 12. Something to do with not being able to make a voice call to 911 over LTE as an alternate means of connecting to 911, which they require their Band 12 phones to have.
People seem to think the Snapdragon 615 supports voice over 4G and can support VoLTE which could be implemented by Asus if they wanted to . Why they didn't or haven't no one seems to know.
Yeah, T-Mobile uses VoLTE exclusively in band 12:
http://www.fiercewireless.com/story...ur-network-must-support-volte-e911/2015-08-28
More info:
http://www.spectrumgateway.com/compatible-phones
Asus doesn't support that (at least not on this firmware). MotoX 2015 got the VoLTE in Marshmallow update, Nexus 5X and 6 got the update too in last December...
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... MotoX 2015 got the VoLTE in Marshmallow update, Nexus 5X and 6 got the update too in last December...
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You would think that gives ZF2 Laser owners with the Snapdragon 615 and 616 chip a chance, but that's exactly the type of thing Asus is extremely unlikely to do. If they manage to get the promised Marshmallow update to all Zenfone 2 models before the end of Q2 without major bugs that would exceed their normal level of service for products after sale.