Is there an advantage to charging with a USB C to A cable? From what I understand, USB C to C supports 3.0 Amps while USB C to A only supports 2.4 Amps. I currently find no problems with the stock N5X C to C charger other than that it's too short. However, I'm having difficulty finding longer C to C cables? Do they need to be compliant to specific specs?
I ordered a C to A cable for data transfer but unfortunately I found out that it doesn't meet spec. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B017IBHXHG?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00
I still use it right now and it works fine but i'm just worried it might damage my computer so in the future i'll have to order one that Benson recommended.
Like you, I thought the C to C cable that came with the phone is too short. I like to keep my phone on top of my dresser at night, and the cable just won't reach. I've had a 6-ft micro USB cable for years that has been awesome with a couple different phones. So I was a little disappointed when I had to stop using it.
I ordered a 6-ft C to C cable from Monoprice (you can find it easily on their website). I'd highly recommend it. It came packaged nicely, and the quality of the cable feels the same as the original Google cable. My phone says it is rapidly charging when I connect that cable to the Google charger. I'm not a hardware expert, but I would expect it's getting the full 3 Amps because both ends are type C. Benson has not reviewed this cable, but it is to spec as far as I can tell. As far as I know, the issues with cables being out of spec are only really problematic for C to A cables, where the phone will attempt to draw more current than the A spec is rated for.
mkasberg said:
Like you, I thought the C to C cable that came with the phone is too short. I like to keep my phone on top of my dresser at night, and the cable just won't reach. I've had a 6-ft micro USB cable for years that has been awesome with a couple different phones. So I was a little disappointed when I had to stop using it.
I ordered a 6-ft C to C cable from Monoprice (you can find it easily on their website). I'd highly recommend it. It came packaged nicely, and the quality of the cable feels the same as the original Google cable. My phone says it is rapidly charging when I connect that cable to the Google charger. I'm not a hardware expert, but I would expect it's getting the full 3 Amps because both ends are type C. Benson has not reviewed this cable, but it is to spec as far as I can tell. As far as I know, the issues with cables being out of spec are only really problematic for C to A cables, where the phone will attempt to draw more current than the A spec is rated for.
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Thanks, i'll check it out. I've heard the same thing about USB C to A so that's why i'm going to stick to charging with C to C when possible.
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Wanted to do a shoutout to TechMatte Inc for giving me a free sample unit of these micro usb to usb C adapters. I got them in exchange for my unbiased review. So:
First: This is a two pack for a pretty reasonable price. Right now, it's $5 a piece. Not bad.
Second: Quality: These are plastic, but very functional. I have a multitude of micro USB cables from previous phones, and it's nice to be able to have backups laying around, instead of having to buy a bunch of USB C cables now. I leave the adapter plugged into the micro usb cable, and plug the adapter into the phone. Pretty handy at making the old cables still work.
Caveats: Size. This is a plus and a minus-- they would be very easy to lose. Also, the plastic feel. These work very well, but I can also see them starting to fall apart with heavy daily use. Not sure, but it looks like they wouldn't survive abuse.
Thanks, Techmatte, for the sample, and I would recommend these adapters!
Can you tell us what chargers you've used this with? Any of the Anker IQ chargers at all? I was looking at these (or similar items) to reuse the Micro USB chargers I have everywhere. Does the phone report that it's plugged into AC (in the Battery info screen), and does it report "Charging" or "Charging Slowly" if you look at the lock screen?
I'd be concerned about using an adapter like this since it could be potentially placing more stress on the phone's USB-C female connector than it was designed to handle. I'd much rather see a short (say 3" or so) Micro USB F to USB-C M adapter cable, so the stress gets relieved a bit by the cable.
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Can you tell us what chargers you've used this with? Any of the Anker IQ chargers at all? I was looking at these (or similar items) to reuse the Micro USB chargers I have everywhere. Does the phone report that it's plugged into AC (in the Battery info screen), and does it report "Charging" or "Charging Slowly" if you look at the lock screen?
I'd be concerned about using an adapter like this since it could be potentially placing more stress on the phone's USB-C female connector than it was designed to handle. I'd much rather see a short (say 3" or so) Micro USB F to USB-C M adapter cable, so the stress gets relieved a bit by the cable.
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I bought this four pack a while ago, and just use them around the house/ office. It reports Charging when plugged in.
Hi,
Do they work as data/sync with the computer?
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Hi,
Do they work as data/sync with the computer?
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Yes.
Hey I just got these today! They are small and go charge at a decently fast pace even though it only says "charging". I like that it comes in packs of 2 so I can have one in my car and one at home.
It's only been a day, but so far I approve of these.
got this one on ebay:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/40100033237...49&var=670529660301&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
$1.49 each and works great. Shipping took 9 days from China
rickyray9 said:
got this one on ebay:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/40100033237...49&var=670529660301&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
$1.49 each and works great. Shipping took 9 days from China
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Nice, does it fast charge or charge at a good speed?
buru898 said:
Nice, does it fast charge or charge at a good speed?
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I just tested using 3 configurations:
Stock LG charger and Cable 5V3A:
"Charging Rapidly" at +2621mA/h
Anker 5V2.4A charger and USB-A to C cable:
"Charging Rapidly" at +1285mA/h
Anker 5V2.4A charger and USB-A to Micro USB cable with USB C adapter:
"Charging" at +1225mA/h
Any thoughts on what the software engineer from Google has to say about the adapter and what potential impact it may have on our devices?
I'm a Software Engineer on the Chrome OS team at Google on the Chromebook Pixel and Pixel C teams.
I bought these two USB-C to Micro USB adapters from TechMatte and found they do not work properly with the Chromebook Pixel.
Upon closer inspection by our engineering team here, we have determined that this adapter is not correctly following the USB Type C specification.
The specification can be found here :
http://www.usb.org/developers/docs/usb_31_102015.zip
Specifically, these adapters do not charge the Chromebook Pixel 2015 because the adapters leave the C-C lines floating, where the specification requires a Rp pullup to Vbus to identify the cable as a legacy adapter or cable.
Please see the document named "USB Type-C Specification Release 1.1.pdf"
section 4.5.3.2.4 for a description of why the Rp pullup is necessary.
Please also see Section 4.11 and the following note :
1. For Rp when implemented in the USB Type-C plug on a USB Type-C to USB 3.1 Standard-A Cable
Assembly, a USB Type-C to USB 2.0 Standard-A Cable Assembly, a USB Type-C to USB 2.0 Micro-B
Receptacle Adapter Assembly or a USB Type-C captive cable connected to a USB host, a value of 56 k'
± 5% shall be used, in order to provide tolerance to IR drop on V BUS and GND in the cable assembly.
In other words, since you are creating a USB Type-C plug to a USB 2.0 Micro-B receptacle assembly, you must use a resistor of value 56k' as a pullup to Vbus. This cable does not do this.
Please let me know if there is any more information I can provide about why these adapters are problematic.
If you are a consumer looking for a cable that is compatible with Pixel, do not use this one.
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Hello,
So I just ordered a Nexus 5X. I am trying to figure out what the deal is with the issues with some USB C cable and what is the best option for aftermarket chargers.
Correct me if I am wrong, but it seems USB A to USB C cables are 2.4A max. USB C to USB C are 3A max. So the way to obtain the fastest charging possible is to have a 3A wall plug and a 3A capable USB C to USB C cable?
I am content with the OEM charger for the house, so I am mainly trying to figure out what to get for a charger for my car. Should I be looking for a 3 Amp car plug and a 3 Amp cable? Or am I looking for 2.4A / 2.4A? I am totally confused.
Also, I read somewhere that the Nexus 5X has a chip on the logic board that makes it fully compatible for Qualcomm Quickcharge 3.0, and that it may be available later on through an update. Anyone heard this? If so I may as well get Quickcharge 3.0 products.
If someone could please explain this whole USB C ordeal I would greatly appreciate it. Thank You!
EDIT:
I figured it all out. I ended up order the following:
Cable Matters 3.3ft USB to USB C Cable ( This will be my data / sync cable)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00S8GU2OC?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=od_aui_detailpages00
Cable Matters 3.3ft USB C to USB C Cable ( This will be for my car)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00WAKL4TY?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=od_aui_detailpages00
Vinsic 3A USB C Car Charger (This has a USB C and a USB Port)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B014F2NQ36?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=od_aui_detailpages00
The Cable Matters USB to USB C has been confirmed compliant by Benson Leung so I wont have to worry about it frying any USB ports on my computer. lol
Rektifying said:
Hello,
So I just ordered a Nexus 5X. I am trying to figure out what the deal is with the issues with some USB C cable and what is the best option for aftermarket chargers.
Correct me if I am wrong, but it seems USB A to USB C cables are 2.4A max. USB C to USB C are 3A max. So the way to obtain the fastest charging possible is to have a 3A wall plug and a 3A capable USB C to USB C cable?
I am content with the OEM charger for the house, so I am mainly trying to figure out what to get for a charger for my car. Should I be looking for a 3 Amp car plug and a 3 Amp cable? Or am I looking for 2.4A / 2.4A? I am totally confused.
Also, I read somewhere that the Nexus 5X has a chip on the logic board that makes it fully compatible for Qualcomm Quickcharge 3.0, and that it may be available later on through an update. Anyone heard this? If so I may as well get Quickcharge 3.0 products.
If someone could please explain this whole USB C ordeal I would greatly appreciate it. Thank You!
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Sounds like you got the info just right. What's important about A to C is the resistor used and that it meets specifications. If not it'll be asking a charger for 3.0A when it can't give it possibly leading to burning out the charger. For me, I got the Elegiant A to C cables (which are compliant) for older ports since C isn't as readily available. Good for old car chargers, old wall chargers, hotel rooms, shopping center charging stations, etc. C to C is necessary for full rapid charging so I'm waiting for a car charger and compact battery bank that support 3.0A type C.
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Interested in your point about QC 3.0 being future ready. Where did you read that? Link?
Here is a good list of compliant cables, I wish I saw this before I ordered my cable.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...1V4-eP_sfNVNzbA/htmlview?usp=sharing&sle=true
EeZeEpEe said:
Sounds like you got the info just right. What's important about A to C is the resistor used and that it meets specifications. If not it'll be asking a charger for 3.0A when it can't give it possibly leading to bring out the charger. For me, I got the Elegiant A to C cables (which are compliant) for older ports since C isn't as readily available. Good for old car chargers, old wall chargers, hotel rooms, shopping center charging stations, etc. C to C is necessary for full rapid charging so I'm waiting for a car charger and compact battery bank that support 3.0A type C.
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Thank you for clarifying. I thought I had it right I just wanted to make sure.
Also, I came across a 3A car charger. I already ordered it. There were a couple reviews that stated it wouldn't run at 3A, but there were also reviews stating that it does run on 3A IF you use the USB C port only. (It has a USB and a USB C Port) So I am assuming the people who had issues were probably using the USB side.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B014F2NQ36?redirect=true&ref_=ya_st_dp_summary
gleggie said:
Here is a good list of compliant cables, I wish I saw this before I ordered my cable.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...1V4-eP_sfNVNzbA/htmlview?usp=sharing&sle=true
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Thank you for the link! Everything I just ordered is on that list as approved! lol
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Interested in your point about QC 3.0 being future ready. Where did you read that? Link?
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I'm trying to hunt down the article where I read it. I will update when I find it. (with a new post)
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Interested in your point about QC 3.0 being future ready. Where did you read that? Link?
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I can't find the article I read that stated QC 3.0 (I think they were wrong anyways), but I did hop over to the iFixit Nexus 5X tear down page. I remembered that they always list the IC's on logic boards for their tear downs. Sure enough, the Nexus 5X has the Qualcomm SMB1358 Quick Charge 2.0 IC.
https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Nexus+5X+Teardown/51318
Not a great looking review for the Elephone P9000 USB C type by the well respected Benson Leung
on Google+ as part of their ongoing trawl through the dodgy cables being sold as safe. (See previous https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/s0Inv)
Here Benson is suggesting that there are potential risks with using the USB Type C cable supplied with the Elephone P9000.
Disclaimer : though I am linking to a brand new Type-C phone this is NOT a phone review. As I mentioned previously, I do not review phones. Instead, this is an accessory warning, for the cable that ships with that phone.
One of my colleagues recently bought a brand new P9000 from +Elephone Mobile. It came with a USB A-to-C cable and he was curious if it was a good cable, so he brought it to me.
My testing shows that this cable violates the #USB #TypeC specification. It uses a 10kΩ resistor where it should have used a 56kΩ resistor as mandated by the USB Type-C Specification.
This cable is potentially dangerous, as when combined with a Type-C device that can fast charge, it may damage Type-A chargers, hubs, or PC USB ports that are not designed for the current draw from new USB Type-C devices.
Please see my FAQ for more info :
https://plus.google.com/+BensonLeung/posts/HakwCMmd346
+Elephone Mobile, please immediately stop bundling these cables, and let your customers know to be very careful with the A-to-C cable that ships with this device.
By the way, this all may be very familiar to other users, because another phone manufacturer from China, +OnePlus, shipped a bad cable with their phone last year as well.
http://www.elephonestore.com/elephone-p9000-deca-core-4g-phone.html
As you can see there also may be an issue with the charger.
I bought some Anker USB C adaptors for now (quite cheap and work) but will raise this on the ELEPHONE forums.
Anybody else had issues?
Andy
[email protected] said:
Not a great looking review for the Elephone P9000 USB C type by the well respected Benson Leung
on Google+ as part of their ongoing trawl through the dodgy cables being sold as safe. (See previous https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/s0Inv)
Here Benson is suggesting that there are potential risks with using the USB Type C cable supplied with the Elephone P9000.
Disclaimer : though I am linking to a brand new Type-C phone this is NOT a phone review. As I mentioned previously, I do not review phones. Instead, this is an accessory warning, for the cable that ships with that phone.
One of my colleagues recently bought a brand new P9000 from +Elephone Mobile. It came with a USB A-to-C cable and he was curious if it was a good cable, so he brought it to me.
My testing shows that this cable violates the #USB #TypeC specification. It uses a 10kΩ resistor where it should have used a 56kΩ resistor as mandated by the USB Type-C Specification.
This cable is potentially dangerous, as when combined with a Type-C device that can fast charge, it may damage Type-A chargers, hubs, or PC USB ports that are not designed for the current draw from new USB Type-C devices.
Please see my FAQ for more info :
https://plus.google.com/+BensonLeung/posts/HakwCMmd346
+Elephone Mobile, please immediately stop bundling these cables, and let your customers know to be very careful with the A-to-C cable that ships with this device.
By the way, this all may be very familiar to other users, because another phone manufacturer from China, +OnePlus, shipped a bad cable with their phone last year as well.
http://www.elephonestore.com/elephone-p9000-deca-core-4g-phone.html
As you can see there also may be an issue with the charger.
I bought some Anker USB C adaptors for now (quite cheap and work) but will raise this on the ELEPHONE forums.
Anybody else had issues?
Andy
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Oh dear! Thanks for raising awareness. I was going to buy the fast charger anyway - this will speed that decision up!
good to know. im waiting for some usb c cables that should be benson approved. Tronsmart 2pack.
so, is the cable bad to use with qualcomm 2\3 chargers?
It looks bad with everything. Shame really as it seems to work but judging from the research carried out it looks really dodgy. Elephone need to rethink this.
How do you know if you have a bad cable?
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Well the risk is from the notes....damage to charger, damage to phone, fire you name it
Check out this
http://www.theverge.com/2016/2/4/10916264/usb-c-russian-roulette-power-cords
ok, will be using the wireless charger until the tronsmart cables arrives
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ok, will be using the wireless charger until the tronsmart cables arrives
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My bundled elephone cable didn't connect to the phone properly, the metal shroud covered part of the connector so it couldn't seat home fully. I had to slide the metal back, after heating it, to get the phone to charge. Couldn't get the PC to connect to the phone at all! I was very worried that the phone was faulty when I first got it, and was hoping that the cable was the problem.
I've since bought an "elephas" brand qi wireless charger and that's great! A well made piece of kit that doubles as a nightstand. It runs on a standard microusb connector.
I also bought a braided type "C" cable for the PC, its a brand called KNIPS, it feels like a good quality cable heavy and fairly inflexible, though it tends to hold shape if bent. That works very well to charge, and to transfer data between the phone and the PC.
My next purchase will be a QI charger for the car - more when that arrives, later.
Hot battery?
If anybody suffers from a very hot battery (heißer Akku) while charging, you should consider to buy a correct USB C cable vor one of these little Anker adaptors (see thr reviews at the top).
Which cable?
Please could somone post the part number for a cable that I'd safe - anker or tronsmart. I'm not clear on the USB version for the p9000
Where can I buy a compitable charger? The one that came with the phone isn't compatible according to Checkr.
Any good quality with max. 2000mah MicroUsb adapter (I use at work an Samsung travel adapter one on both USB-Type C phones) with corresponding USB-Type C adapter is suitable to charge you're phone or directly an USB-Type C adapter.
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Last night I put my phone on the charger using the supplied wall plug and a USB cable I bought from Amazon (linked below). After a few minutes there was a spark and a loud bang with a burning smell from the socket. I have now tried to charge the phone with the actual cable supplied by Elephone and a different wall plug but the phone no longer charges. It still works though as the battery isnt yet dead. I plan on returning it to Amazon with the hope of getting a new one. This time around getting an Anker wall plug and USB cable to hopefully avoid these problems in the future.
mr.claude said:
Any MicroUsb adapter (I use at work an Samsung travel adapter one on both USB-Type C phones) with corresponding USB-Type C adapter is suitable to charge you're phone or directly USB-Type C adapter.
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Any microusb to type c adapter is safe?
Do you have any further discussion to support that statement? I would have assumed that cheap adapters can be just as dangerous as cheap cables.
A normal MicroUsb Charger not have more than 2000mah power so an adapter from MicroUsb to Usb tip C will not be a problem to charge the Usb C phone only will take more time depending on chargers power. From Usb C charger to MicroUSB I DO NOT RECOMMEND!
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damianmcr said:
Last night I put my phone on the charger using the supplied wall plug and a USB cable I bought from Amazon (linked below). After a few minutes there was a spark and a loud bang with a burning smell from the socket. I have now tried to charge the phone with the actual cable supplied by Elephone and a different wall plug but the phone no longer charges. It still works though as the battery isnt yet dead. I plan on returning it to Amazon with the hope of getting a new one. This time around getting an Anker wall plug and USB cable to hopefully avoid these problems in the future.
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Bad charger Quality (high voltage or else) or problems with sockets (dust or water in sockets from wear in pockets) or bad cable. I used an original Samsung charger with 500mah power and my cheapest MicroUSB to USB-Type C adapter and never had problems with it.
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I know there was a big issue with some of these and the Note 7 where the cables had issues with the amps or something and I-Orange cables were recommended, I want to pick up some more of them now for the Note 8 and apparently I-Orange has had some quality control issues or something happened where they are changing their name and I am seeing allot of customers giving them bad reviews now.
So Who has the best (preferred) USB 3.0 to USB C charging cables?
Snowleopard1900 said:
I know there was a big issue with some of these and the Note 7 where the cables had issues with the amps or something and I-Orange cables were recommended, I want to pick up some more of them now for the Note 8 and apparently I-Orange has had some quality control issues or something happened where they are changing their name and I am seeing allot of customers giving them bad reviews now.
So Who has the best (preferred) USB 3.0 to USB C charging cables?
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I-Orange is now Veckle and you can't go wrong with Anker Powerline Cables. I bought a couple Veckle cables on special and they seem to work fine.
as mentioned in another accessories thread...
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01N8U9075/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1
i exclusively use these.
JawjaBill said:
I-Orange is now Veckle and you can't go wrong with Anker Powerline Cables. I bought a couple Veckle cables on special and they seem to work fine.
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I've heard the QC for the Anker cables are pretty bad. Going to try CHOETECH this round.
I've stuck with Anker as their quality has seemed to remain high and these USB 3.0 and 3.1 type A to C cables are no exception.
To be fair though, the phone fast charges just fine with an old Blackberry usb 2.0 cable and micro A to C adapter as well. I am guessing you'd need a pretty awful cable to fail.
Good morning. Thank you for this site.
Wanting to replace original aawireless cable.
Is the cable USB 3.0 Type C into a USB Type A 2.0?
Thanks in advance. Mike.
I've had a tough time trying to replace my original cable, which works the best for me, it's just longer than I need in my car.
The cable type for you depends on your car, as it's USB C on the AAW end, and USB A for MOST cars on the other end. Some cars might be USB C on the other end as they are more recent.
The big issue is if it's a high quality data cable, not just a charging cable.
I'm on the lookout for a 30cm or 1 foot cable, USB C - USB A.
Genebaby said:
I've had a tough time trying to replace my original cable, which works the best for me, it's just longer than I need in my car.
The cable type for you depends on your car, as it's USB C on the AAW end, and USB A for MOST cars on the other end. Some cars might be USB C on the other end as they are more recent.
The big issue is if it's a high quality data cable, not just a charging cable.
I'm on the lookout for a 30cm or 1 foot cable, USB C - USB A.
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Thanks for your reply
This is the one I got from Amaxon. So far, so good.
CERRXIAN 9 inch Gold Plated USB Left & Right Angle 3.0 Type C Male to Left Angle USB Type A 2.0 Male Fast Charge and Data Sync Cable L
Amazon.com
Larraldem11 said:
Is the cable USB 3.0 Type C into a USB Type A 2.0?
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There is no such thing. It's either 3.1 or 2.0, the ends can't be different. Either should work.
Just buy a quality cable. Anker and Monoprice are well respected.
mike.s said:
There is no such thing. It's either 3.1 or 2.0, the ends can't be different. Either should work.
Just buy a quality cable. Anker and Monoprice are well respected.
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This is the one I purchased and so far it works fine.
CERRXIAN 9 inch Gold Plated USB Left & Right Angle 3.0 Type C Male to Left Angle USB Type A 2.0 Male Fast Charge and Data Sync Cable L
Amazon.com
Ever had the feeling of Déjà Vu? I hear it smells like spam.
This model works perfect, at least the 25cm one that I bought
https://es.aliexpress.com/item/32844394210.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.3da263c0KUubtT
Thanks for these specific cable recs. Hopefully saved me some hassle
If you don't need an actual cable, I've been using one of these https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0936PJC2J/ and it's been great.
I have this cable for my car - https://satechi.net/products/usb-c-to-usb-c-gen-2-flat-cable?variant=29948515057752