AOSP here? No wait... There??? - Xperia Z1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I ask this because we are now in December. I have recently fired up an old Z1 and want to breathe new life into it. So I have been looking around for a while now. A few things I gathered.
: Sony supports custom roms and supplies everything needed for a rom.
: fxp.co makes roms but they have been inactive since October, does this mean their latest rom is stable?
: Sony have released some camera stuff yesterday but nobody has come forward and said they will take it and build with it.
Everything seems dead and as if no one wants to build further. I don't know how to build otherwise I would of done it my self by now and shared it.
Is this device dead? Is there someone who knows what they are doing going to release a build? I'm still on stock waiting for my first AOSP build to flash.
Coming from a motorola (Moto G 2014) that has a million roms build a day. This is weird for me to not have a rom to flash and use as a DD.
I'm coming off as a snotty kid here I know. I just want to flash some AOSP's... So thats the question... Are there any AOSP's that can be flashed and used as DD?
Thanks for at least trying to read this... Pece

Yeah it is a little dead around here unfortunately hahaha. I've tried all the CM/AOSP ROMs and from my experience almost all of them are good as daily drivers with no issues with the exception of the Marshmallow one currently being worked on.

tomascus said:
Yeah it is a little dead around here unfortunately hahaha. I've tried all the CM/AOSP ROMs and from my experience almost all of them are good as daily drivers with no issues with the exception of the Marshmallow one currently being worked on.
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So whick ROM do you suggest then?
On FXP they have this one : AOSP_L_MR1_151203_honami... I guess that is the latest one with the camera thingy that was published. 151203 means 3rd of Dec 2015. Right???
I guess I should just download and flash and answer my own questions
Thanks

ljoao77 said:
So whick ROM do you suggest then?
On FXP they have this one : AOSP_L_MR1_151203_honami... I guess that is the latest one with the camera thingy that was published. 151203 means 3rd of Dec 2015. Right???
I guess I should just download and flash and answer my own questions
Thanks
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Yea it does.
Up to you man, I personally just grab CM12.1 off the nightlies website http://www.cmxlog.com/12.1/honami/ and maybe also flash M5 kernel on there, which you can find in the development section.

I just want to say... I've been at it for about 4hours now... This is harder than I expected. I finally have a AOSP rom. FXP latest build... Finally have TWRP recovery... About to flash open g apps stock package... I hope it all goes well... This is way harder than the hundreds of other android phones I've done this with.
Edit : It seems that cyanogenmod is the only stable ROM I could get past setup with. After I installed Gapps. I installed Aroma Gapps and selected the apps I use. The Gapps run perfectly and Google camera seems to be pretty good and taking full 20mp shots. I'm impressed with CM12.1. It runs good. After doing an antutu benchmark to see if the performance is close to stock I see that it ,"Benched", Way more that stock. 43288 is my score on Antutu. I know bechmarks tell half a story but it seems to tell an interesting one... It seems CM12.1 is really great and with the Gapps I'm getting my ,"stock android", feels anyhow.
This was the toughest device for me to get a working custom ROM with. There should be a new thread detailing how, late 2015. To get a custom ROM working.
AOSP with FXP in no good for actual use. CM12.1 is really good.
I answered my own questions I wanted details too. I'll be using this CM12.1 Xperia Z1 as my DD and see if it works.

ljoao77 said:
I ask this because we are now in December. I have recently fired up an old Z1 and want to breathe new life into it. So I have been looking around for a while now. A few things I gathered.
: Sony supports custom roms and supplies everything needed for a rom.
: fxp.co makes roms but they have been inactive since October, does this mean their latest rom is stable?
: Sony have released some camera stuff yesterday but nobody has come forward and said they will take it and build with it.
Everything seems dead and as if no one wants to build further. I don't know how to build otherwise I would of done it my self by now and shared it.
Is this device dead? Is there someone who knows what they are doing going to release a build? I'm still on stock waiting for my first AOSP build to flash.
Coming from a motorola (Moto G 2014) that has a million roms build a day. This is weird for me to not have a rom to flash and use as a DD.
I'm coming off as a snotty kid here I know. I just want to flash some AOSP's... So thats the question... Are there any AOSP's that can be flashed and used as DD?
Thanks for at least trying to read this... Pece
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The first thing to do to stop projecting the image of a snotty kid is to read original development thread. You may surprise yourself finding plenty of custom roms including CM, Paranoid, Slimrom, DU and others. You can find kitkat and both versions of lollipop and every time custom roms were several months ahead of stock.
So, don't be shy and read.

optimumpro said:
The first thing to do to stop projecting the image of a snotty kid
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I think this is a little harsh, flashing a new device can be quite overwhelming, especially if the forums are as inactive as they are here in the Z1 section.
But OP, there is a super long thread pinned about flashing and rooting for newcomers, you should check that out.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2440565

D33KK said:
I think this is a little harsh, flashing a new device can be quite overwhelming, especially if the forums are as inactive as they are here in the Z1 section.
But OP, there is a super long thread pinned about flashing and rooting for newcomers, you should check that out.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2440565
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Little harsh? I don't think so. I don't appreciate it when freeloaders complain, especially when they don't know what they are talking about. The guy wasn't asking questions on how to flash, he basically came in and proclaimed that there are no custom roms for Z1, everything is dead and he is waiting for the first custom rom to flash. He clearly didn't bother to read and discover a multitude of custom roms for Z1. And by making that ridiculous statement, he has insulted everybody who contributes to Z1 development..
And by the way, what does "dead" mean? Inability to have updates twice a day? Lollipop has just recently became stable and marshmallows won't get there for at least a year. Plus, I am not sure that M is worth the effort: not much changed as compared to LP.

optimumpro said:
And by the way, what does "dead" mean? Inability to have updates twice a day? Lollipop has just recently became stable and marshmallows won't get there for at least a year. Plus, I am not sure that M is worth the effort: not much changed as compared to LP.
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Yeah I agree with you, Lolipop is really good on the Z1, even if we do eventually get M I'm not sure it'll be worth the upgrade.

optimumpro said:
Little harsh? I don't think so. I don't appreciate it when freeloaders complain, especially when they don't know what they are talking about. The guy wasn't asking questions on how to flash, he basically came in and proclaimed that there are no custom roms for Z1, everything is dead and he is waiting for the first custom rom to flash. He clearly didn't bother to read and discover a multitude of custom roms for Z1. And by making that ridiculous statement, he has insulted everybody who contributes to Z1 development..
And by the way, what does "dead" mean? Inability to have updates twice a day? Lollipop has just recently became stable and marshmallows won't get there for at least a year. Plus, I am not sure that M is worth the effort: not much changed as compared to LP.
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You miss understand. Let me explain. I went through all the custom roms threads. And I read the comments. The comments all speak of incomplete roms that have a major flaws in it. Camera not working is the main problem. I also did search the forum to figure out how to flash the Sony. The forum helped but it was scattered everywhere. Some solutions were not even in the Z1 page but in another Sony Xperia page. (The drivers not being accepted by newer windows) This thread : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2440565 would definitely come in handy, I must of over looked it.
I am sorry if you think I'm clueless to this. But I have had about 5 phones that I've flashed custom roms on. Motorola, HTC and samsung. All those phones were easy. The Sony is very complicated because I couldn't get into the recovery, after following instructions from Sony and on this forum. Using EMMA to flash the recovery, Pressing the right buttons. I could not get it to work... But with fastboot I kept trying and somehow got it to flash TWRP recovery. Allowing me to install CM12.1
Flashing the FXP AOSP roms was easy. But that rom didn't work. Neither did the Recovery that came with it.
I Just wanted to know how to get this AOSP that Sony bragged about. But in essence it doesn't exist. Not in a functional form for users.
And I think that was my biggest problem. Understanding that the AOSP thing is not for me. Or others that want it as a DD.
*Edit After reading the replies and felt the need to refreshen my story. I understand there are lots of Custom ROMS. The whole idea here was that I was looking for AOSP that all the articles talk about. Sony releasing AOSP build for their phones. But it isn't exactly the full story. I was just looking for these Sony AOSP Roms... But I did end up with CM12.1... I was thinking about trying this Jaguar one that is so active as well. I'm not trying to rip on the custom roms the community was working on. I was justy trying to find Sony's AOSP. I'm sure the Custom roms are great. And I will eventually find the perfect one for me.

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[HELP] Recovery, Rom, Kernel....

Hi there folks!!
This phone dropped on my hands today from a friend of mine you is a excluded in this matters of customizing droid's...
So what I need to know it's the stuff that i should use to root it, like recovery and such, and the best overall rom to put in the phone. IF there is kitkat stable even better... If not Jelly Bean it is.
I'm not an expert, but i workaround pretty well, but i dropped on this forum today, and with so much stuff i don't know where need to look, and don't have the time to read it all.
So please, have some kind of goodness on me.
snake_boss said:
Hi there folks!!
This phone dropped on my hands today from a friend of mine you is a excluded in this matters of customizing droid's...
So what I need to know it's the stuff that i should use to root it, like recovery and such, and the best overall rom to put in the phone. IF there is kitkat stable even better... If not Jelly Bean it is.
I'm not an expert, but i workaround pretty well, but i dropped on this forum today, and with so much stuff i don't know where need to look, and don't have the time to read it all.
So please, have some kind of goodness on me.
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If none of the current data ia needed, then a nice clean full format to the New bootloader would be a good choice.
Use the AIO tool in the Developers section to format the phone to default new bootloader. you can follow the choices to install recovery, and download your choice of Rom.
The most stable and fully featured out of the newer roms are only the CM 10.1 roms. anything made later have camera and bluetooth issues.
Pengus has his own, Look ma no hands. its an excellent rom. along with his M1 kernel. its the latest you'll get to fully stable.
If you'd like more features, Tonyp made a T-build version 5 currently. use the same kernel from pengus again M1. and give that a go if you like customizing a bit more.
there are later roms. and they are all great, but they are still in development, with many bugs still to really work out.
you can also go Stock and try out the few very well made custom stock roms i believe there are 3 different dev's that have done work on ICS and did an excellent job of it.
Or you can stay on the old boot loader, and stick with GB if you really want to stretch out the battery life, and have every feature working.
the first few pages of the dev section would have everything I've just mentioned. but you could also use the Search for anything your having trouble with.
PM me also if you need more detailed assistance.
necrowakker said:
If none of the current data ia needed, then a nice clean full format to the New bootloader would be a good choice.
Use the AIO tool in the Developers section to format the phone to default new bootloader. you can follow the choices to install recovery, and download your choice of Rom.
The most stable and fully featured out of the newer roms are only the CM 10.1 roms. anything made later have camera and bluetooth issues.
Pengus has his own, Look ma no hands. its an excellent rom. along with his M1 kernel. its the latest you'll get to fully stable.
If you'd like more features, Tonyp made a T-build version 5 currently. use the same kernel from pengus again M1. and give that a go if you like customizing a bit more.
there are later roms. and they are all great, but they are still in development, with many bugs still to really work out.
you can also go Stock and try out the few very well made custom stock roms i believe there are 3 different dev's that have done work on ICS and did an excellent job of it.
Or you can stay on the old boot loader, and stick with GB if you really want to stretch out the battery life, and have every feature working.
the first few pages of the dev section would have everything I've just mentioned. but you could also use the Search for anything your having trouble with.
PM me also if you need more detailed assistance.
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Thanks ... Without knowing I did this by myself... Trying pengus cm10.1
The problem with the phone it's that with stock rom the batterylast about 4/6 hours... And right now it's too test if custom rom's help a bit!
Thanks for the info... If I get in trouble I know who to contact!!!
+kudos
snake_boss said:
Thanks ... Without knowing I did this by myself... Trying pengus cm10.1
The problem with the phone it's that with stock rom the batterylast about 4/6 hours... And right now it's too test if custom rom's help a bit!
Thanks for the info... If I get in trouble I know who to contact!!!
+kudos
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New battery can do miracles. LG stock battery is highly recommended.

[q] not a single good rom ?

IS there any good roms for this phone seriously ?
every rom i try has alot of bugs and problems and devs release updates every 6 months and most of them drop the development for the phone anyway
i cant find a single rom that combines performance with battery without sacrificing the LED notification abilities !!!
I've seen comments saying "the best rom" in every rom OP
If 'you' don't like it, it's your view. But don't ask for the best rom as its a violation of xda rules. I hope you get my point and I'm not being rude.
There are many great roms out there, try them for a week or so and then see what's good and what's not, help the dev by reviewing it honestly(not being biased like 'this rom is nothing like xyz rom') this way the dev will help you get a better rom.
aliiahmed.20 said:
IS there any good roms for this phone seriously ?
every rom i try has alot of bugs and problems and devs release updates every 6 months and most of them drop the development for the phone anyway
i cant find a single rom that combines performance with battery without sacrificing the LED notification abilities !!!
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First off - respect others work. Everyone puts a lot of effort in the ROMs.
1. The ROMs for SP are nearly bugless, only stock based ROMs have stock Sony bugs.
2. Of course - updates are released every 6 months - how is that possible if PA, AOKP, PAC, FXP CM are weekly-built, and we also have daily-built CM nightlies. Also who dropped support for a ROM? Last time it happened for OmniROM. After that no one dropped ROM support.
3. All ROMs for SP are nearly on par when it comes to battery and performance.
4. You can get the illumination bar features with Illumination Reciever + Illumination Bar Notification apps
5. Why do you put these exclamation marks in your sentences?
try PA or PAC, smooth,fast , great battery life and stable
2 words: thread reported
please respect the work of others and be patient
Also according to the XDA Rules asking for "What is the best ROM" is not allowed here
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hahahahaha you people are being aggressive and rude and i didnt say the "Best" anywhere i said a good rom
and no there are no good roms and i have used every single rom in the development thread and i know every developer and because i respect them i didnt mention their names but i know everyone who doesnt release a single update and leaves the rom to rot or just drops the whole development
everyone is just sensetive when it comes to respecting developers
MrSteve555 said:
First off - respect others work. Everyone puts a lot of effort in the ROMs.
1. The ROMs for SP are nearly bugless, only stock based ROMs have stock Sony bugs.
2. Of course - updates are released every 6 months - how is that possible if PA, AOKP, PAC, FXP CM are weekly-built, and we also have daily-built CM nightlies. Also who dropped support for a ROM? Last time it happened for OmniROM. After that no one dropped ROM support.
3. All ROMs for SP are nearly on par when it comes to battery and performance.
4. You can get the illumination bar features with Illumination Reciever + Illumination Bar Notification apps
5. Why do you put these exclamation marks in your sentences?
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5. because i can and its not against any rules !!!!!
4. Most of the applications doesnt work when you are on AOSP or CM they only work on stock
3. there are roms that are just slow like stocks and roms that eat battery like miui and aosp and cm
2. I Dont see any updates from any of these
1. Stock roms are the only thing we can call decent other than that its just an FC Festive
aliiahmed.20 said:
5. because i can and its not against any rules !!!!!
4. Most of the applications doesnt work when you are on AOSP or CM they only work on stock
3. there are roms that are just slow like stocks and roms that eat battery like miui and aosp and cm
2. I Dont see any updates from any of these
1. Stock roms are the only thing we can call decent other than that its just an FC Festive
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eXistenZ is the best stock based rom atm,AT LEAST IN MY OPINION,others may find other roms better.it has NO BUGS,it has speed enchantment,and when you turn Stamina mode On,you will have a hard time draining the battery
aliiahmed.20 said:
5. because i can and its not against any rules !!!!!
4. Most of the applications doesnt work when you are on AOSP or CM they only work on stock
3. there are roms that are just slow like stocks and roms that eat battery like miui and aosp and cm
2. I Dont see any updates from any of these
1. Stock roms are the only thing we can call decent other than that its just an FC Festive
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4. Okay, I can agree, but it's proprietary Sony technology so it can't really be used in CM without weird tricks.
3.Stock is pretty fast starting from .205 update. Eat battery? It depends on that how you flash the ROM, I can easily get 3-4+ hours screen on time.
2. I won't even comment about that, your ignorance totally killed me.
1.FC Festive? Custom ROMs based on AOSP are way stabler than stock ROMs.
MrSteve555 said:
4. Okay, I can agree, but it's proprietary Sony technology so it can't really be used in CM without weird tricks.
3.Stock is pretty fast starting from .205 update. Eat battery? It depends on that how you flash the ROM, I can easily get 3-4+ hours screen on time.
2. I won't even comment about that, your ignorance totally killed me.
1.FC Festive? Custom ROMs based on AOSP are way stabler than stock ROMs.
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then you didnt tried them the only stable custom rom is AOSP by vanir and it lacks the notification bar controll and the features
and please amuse me and tell me what is the right way to flash a rom other than flashing the kernel , wiping data and cache and dalvik, flashing the rom then reboot ?
Marionette said:
eXistenZ is the best stock based rom atm,AT LEAST IN MY OPINION,others may find other roms better.it has NO BUGS,it has speed enchantment,and when you turn Stamina mode On,you will have a hard time draining the battery
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existenZ is slow compared to every single rom out there and as i said we didnt get an upate in 3 months or more
i bet that ill find a developer who will comment right now saying that he does this for free and he has a life and he is busy and we should be gratefull
if you are busy and you are doing this for free then why you started it from the beginning ?
just drop the project and delete your thread instead of making us FC everyday and sink in bugs
@aliiahmed.20
I tried AOKP, PAC, PA, CM10.2, CM11, Stock odexed and deodexed, and also ExistenZ from the first version(based on 4.1.2). So yeah, I didn't try them.
Well, looking at your posts I thought you were dirty flashing from stock to CM11 and other ROMs, because with your issues it's impossible that you clean flashed everything.
And about the developers and their work - they can't do that, why? Because people like you will complain about no updates, bugs and no support...
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@aliiahmed.20
I tried AOKP, PAC, PA, CM10.2, CM11, Stock odexed and deodexed, and also ExistenZ from the first version(based on 4.1.2). So yeah, I didn't try them.
Well, looking at your posts I thought you were dirty flashing from stock to CM11 and other ROMs, because with your issues it's impossible that you clean flashed everything.
And about the developers and their work - they can't do that, why? Because people like you will complain about no updates, bugs and no support...
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Then please amuse me with how i do a clean flash like you ?
aliiahmed.20 said:
Then please amuse me with how i do a clean flash like you ?
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Well, you wrote the correct steps earlier, but you didn't include formatting /system, so in the flashing process some files were left intact thanks by updater-script backuptool.
Anyway, it's not just about the correct or incorrect way. It just seems like a user mistake for me...
Let's end this discussion now, I don't want to fight with anyone about why custom ROMs on their phones perform worse than for happy majority.
MrSteve555 said:
Well, you wrote the correct steps earlier, but you didn't include formatting /system, so in the flashing process some files were left intact thanks by updater-script backuptool.
Anyway, it's not just about the correct or incorrect way. It just seems like a user mistake for me...
Let's end this discussion now, I don't want to fight with anyone about why custom ROMs on their phones perform worse than for happy majority.
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I do format the system and i do wipe battery stats i dont think you would add anything to my knowledge
and happy majority yeah right
aliiahmed.20 said:
I do format the system and i do wipe battery stats i dont think you would add anything to my knowledge
and happy majority yeah right
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Wiping battery stats is completely useless step.
Yes, happy majority on(for example) CM/PA/PAC that enjoys the smoothness, stability and battery life of these ROMs(ofc you will argue about that these ROMs have no updates, no support, ppor battery life and performance, but as I said, the discussion about that is ended).
aliiahmed.20 said:
existenZ is slow compared to every single rom out there and as i said we didnt get an upate in 3 months or more
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I dont even know why we are wasting our time on you...Pls buy another phone,leave us alone.However, I doubt that even the note 3 will be good for you,as you are lost in space and time.eXistenz was updated 1/7/2014,that was 1 month and almost 2 weeks ago,not 3 months.The reason it wasnt updated is that there is no reason for it to be updated at the moment.The illusion that you put yourself in is false and broken,as only ROMs which arent complete need updates every day,or if they added new features.All stock based roms give you the latest SONY UI,and if you dont like them,SONY isnt the right company for you.None of us notice lag on it,or on any custom rom.I dont know what your complex brain expects from a phone this good.If you arent satisfied,try unlocking the bootloader,and installing FXPCM11,that rom is blazing fast,but the bootloader unlock is the price for it.I am honestly using NexusCM11,and it is fast and smooth as butter.try following install instructions completely,and the ROMs wont lag.You cant just pop a thread,with a goal of insulting people who do much more for their property than you.If you think they all suck,you can make one yourself,so we can admire your ambitions.But the bigger chance is simply that you can not be satisfied,even if someone gave you a xperia z2/galaxy s5/note 3 or the lg g3.You would always complain.But I have an idea!
Care only for performance?
Buy a Nokia phone from the previous century,those things dont lag,and can be used as weapons to smack someones head off.
Marionette said:
I dont even know why we are wasting our time on you...Pls buy another phone,leave us alone.However, I doubt that even the note 3 will be good for you,as you are lost in space and time.eXistenz was updated 1/7/2014,that was 1 month and almost 2 weeks ago,not 3 months.The reason it wasnt updated is that there is no reason for it to be updated at the moment.The illusion that you put yourself in is false and broken,as only ROMs which arent complete need updates every day,or if they added new features.All stock based roms give you the latest SONY UI,and if you dont like them,SONY isnt the right company for you.None of us notice lag on it,or on any custom rom.I dont know what your complex brain expects from a phone this good.If you arent satisfied,try unlocking the bootloader,and installing FXPCM11,that rom is blazing fast,but the bootloader unlock is the price for it.I am honestly using NexusCM11,and it is fast and smooth as butter.try following install instructions completely,and the ROMs wont lag.You cant just pop a thread,with a goal of insulting people who do much more for their property than you.If you think they all suck,you can make one yourself,so we can admire your ambitions.But the bigger chance is simply that you can not be satisfied,even if someone gave you a xperia z2/galaxy s5/note 3 or the lg g3.You would always complain.But I have an idea!
Care only for performance?
Buy a Nokia phone from the previous century,those things dont lag,and can be used as weapons to smack someones head off.
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well you gave me a hint who i should be using this nokia on
and if you are just gonna tell me get another phone then please delete this comment and delete yourself
I ASKED A SIMPLE QUESTION AND NO ONE ANSWERED BECAUSE GUESS WHAT !
NO ONE CAN
all you can do is just attack me which is totally okay with me but untill you give ma link of a thread of a good rom you conversation is invaild

How is Cyanogenmod on the Tab S?

I have a Tab S. Great for watching videos. Awful for everything else.
I've been thinking of modding it with Cyanogenmod. And especially to get rid of those capacitive keys on the bezel, worst design decision ever on a tablet.
What is the status of CM on the Tab S? Is it noticably faster? Better? Worth the trouble?
I'm horrible at modding tablets. Last one took me like 4 hours. What is the best distro and method?
taiwwa said:
I have a Tab S. Great for watching videos. Awful for everything else.
I've been thinking of modding it with Cyanogenmod. And especially to get rid of those capacitive keys on the bezel, worst design decision ever on a tablet.
What is the status of CM on the Tab S? Is it noticably faster? Better? Worth the trouble?
I'm horrible at modding tablets. Last one took me like 4 hours. What is the best distro and method?
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I can't speak on the how long it would take to install or anything like that, but based on the CM11 thread in the Galaxy Tab S General section, it seems like its flying and is working very well.
Development for CM is getting some progress, but I would wait till most things on it are almost bug free or at least when its stable is when I would install it. I believe you have to install the kernal and rom with twrp? Personally Im not going to install it since it deals with a custom kernal. Im fine with installing custom roms but installing custom kernals is what scares me since this is my first android tablet. As if now im on stock rooted rom (with debloated and frozen apps)and I get about 8 hours on just watching youtube.
Flashing a custom kernel is no different than flashing a custom ROM. You install a ZIP file through CWM or TWRP. The risks involved are the same. Flash the wrong file and your tablet is a shiny paperweight.
Ceep cool, guys. Flashing is no rocketscience.
Rule of thumb: as long, as you don't flash a recobery image, you always can go back to recobery (from where you can restore your nandroid) - even if you destroy your recoverypartition, you can go in donwloadmode and reflash a recovery from odin. Making a paperweight of your tab by flashing a costumrom (which inderd contains a non-sammy kernel) is quite unlikely.
So go ahead. Knox will be broken permanently - but there are quite a lot threads.
Nvertigo
nvertigo67 said:
Ceep cool, guys. Flashing is no rocketscience.
Rule of thumb: as long, as you don't flash a recobery image, you always can go back to recobery (from where you can restore your nandroid) - even if you destroy your recoverypartition, you can go in donwloadmode and reflash a recovery from odin. Making a paperweight of your tab by flashing a costumrom (which inderd contains a non-sammy kernel) is quite unlikely.
So go ahead. Knox will be broken permanently - but there are quite a lot threads.
Nvertigo
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Thanks for that! But what would happen if odin cant flash stock back on. Like some people had some error in which they needed a pit file so odin can flash a rom on a device. How would you get a pit file?
DUHAsianSKILLZ said:
Thanks for that! But what would happen if odin cant flash stock back on. Like some people had some error in which they needed a pit file so odin can flash a rom on a device. How would you get a pit file?
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You are right. "quite unlikely" implies it's still possibble the some people can do something and some devices have afterwards some errors... For sure: you van brick and even hard brick devices - but it's unlikely, if you do your homework (reading, reading and reading... ). If you don't feel comfortable after research, stay away from flashing. 'Cause - again: youmare right - it is possinle to hard brick an expensive device.
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You are right. "quite unlikely" implies it's still possibble the some people can do something and some devices have afterwards some errors... For sure: you van brick and even hard brick devices - but it's unlikely, if you do your homework (reading, reading and reading... ). If you don't feel comfortable after research, stay away from flashing. 'Cause - again: youmare right - it is possinle to hard brick an expensive device.
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Im fine with flashing with twrp. Its just odin is what i stay away from. I still have my stock rooted rom backup in twrp. Its just the backup has a messed up hosts file in which google servers are blocked. So everytime i restore to my backup i have to download root broswer from the internet browser and delete the hosts file.
Waitin for multirom to be non stocknkernel usable..then illl test cm11
Ok but what about performance CM11 vs stock? CM11 is better? I hate LagWiz.. it's incredibly irritating especially i have LG G2 withCM11 that works fine and really smooth. I'm afraid of knox flag but I'm ready to risk if CM11 change my Tab S and let me forget about lags.
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Ok but what about performance CM11 vs stock? CM11 is better? I hate LagWiz.. it's incredibly irritating especially i have LG G2 withCM11 that works fine and really smooth. I'm afraid of knox flag but I'm ready to risk if CM11 change my Tab S and let me forget about lags.
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I only LagWiz is anoying install Novalauncher or any other third party launcher and delete sammy Launcher with Titanium.
If you want the fullcm-expirience: go for cm. It's development, mic broken, and some other issues (hey, there is a thread where progress on this cm is discussed), but its quit stable and fast. And its true cm.
I only LagWiz is anoying install Novalauncher or any other third party launcher and delete sammy Launcher with Titanium.
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I have Nova but i need root to delete TW launcher?
I will follow cm's thread. Thanks
robson2222 said:
I have Nova but i need root to delete TW launcher?
I will follow cm's thread. Thanks
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Whatever the android related question might be - the answer is nearly always: first you need your device rooted...
Yes you need root for uninstalling system apps.
For cm you need a costum recovery, and cm comes rooted.
nvertigo67 said:
I only LagWiz is anoying install Novalauncher or any other third party launcher and delete sammy Launcher with Titanium.
If you want the fullcm-expirience: go for cm. It's development, mic broken, and some other issues (hey, there is a thread where progress on this cm is discussed), but its quit stable and fast. And its true cm.
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As far as I know the mic is working just fine.
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As far as I know the mic is working just fine.
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Probably on klimtwifi and chagallwifi - but not on chagallwifi. Thats one of the main issues. The sound implementatikn seems to differ on all the 5420 devices.
BTW: Thanx for your work on kimt wifi. From my point of view it lools like crpalmer (cm picassowifi maintainer) started from your work, and I started from picassowifi... So: Thanx.
I had to rewrite a chunk of the audio primary hal and created a mixer_paths.XML from scratch. It even involved some printk love in the kernel to figure out what the kernel driver was expecting. Probably some of the toughtest (though all entertaining) part of the port for me.
If you have questions I might be able to help.
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I had to rewrite a chunk of the audio primary hal and created a mixer_paths.XML from scratch. It even involved some printk love in the kernel to figure out what the kernel driver was expecting. Probably some of the toughtest (though all entertaining) part of the port for me.
If you have questions I might be able to help.
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I come back to your offer. Few days ago I wrote: mixer_paths.xml was invented by a much more complex mind then me... Now I get to now him... At the moment a had tomslow down a little and get some distance, but I would be glad to contact you in a few days. Thank you.
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I come back to your offer. Few days ago I wrote: mixer_paths.xml was invented by a much more complex mind then me... Now I get to now him... At the moment a had tomslow down a little and get some distance, but I would be glad to contact you in a few days. Thank you.
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I totally understand the distance thing. I got lost in getting the initial port up. Probably took me close to 80 hours over the period of three weeks. I now restrict myself to checking the forums twice a week and one night a week coding on the port.
eousphoros said:
I totally understand the distance thing. I got lost in getting the initial port up. Probably took me close to 80 hours over the period of three weeks. I now restrict myself to checking the forums twice a week and one night a week coding on the port.
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It will be really great to see a cm port for the 8.4inch lte model as well.your port for the wifi was really popular.
Honestly,tab s has one of the better hardware out in the marke.but TW is quite another matter.
i dun see any cm in the forums to make me wanna trip that knox crap. and i am holding out for the xperia z3 compact tablet.the pces on that on is comparable with the tab with only the screen losing out.
I find it quite astonishing to read so often about the horrible experiences with the tab s. Maybe im living in a parallel universe, as i love the tab s, and i havent even debloated it yet.
Sure there are micro stutters, but much less then on my iPad 4. The screen is great and everything else is working flawlessly for me... even the apps are nearly on par with iOS. I wont go back,
thats for sure... just wonder whats up with all those complains.

For 1st time, I not sure to install a Custom ROM

Hi,
I got the 1+3 since 3 days, and I must say that from the ROM point of view I quite happy with it ;
It is ...
1. Stable
2. Quick
3. Battery friendly
4. Enough customisation
5. Not Bloatware
Of course there is room for improvement in each points, I know, but ....
Usually I root for point 4. & 5. and I put Custom ROM for point 1. 2. & 3.
But this time, I´m not so hurry
Same here. I have rooted to solve memory management issue but dont really fancy putting a CM rom on it. Will wait until there is a stable oxygen rom I think
I will wait also. Hopefully more CM13 mods will come and improve performance in general.
I got it since 2 days and was very surprised on easy unlocking bootloader and rooting. ROM seems stable and quick enough. I assume that I will wait for an Android N port before I change to a custom ROM. Has someone an idea if there are already devs on the way to cook N-ROMs for different devices?
Same here, only rooted it for the memory fix, OOS have everything I want
I will for sure flash RR and Bliss Flashing Roms is why i bought this device.
andywright1982 said:
Same here. I have rooted to solve memory management issue but dont really fancy putting a CM rom on it. Will wait until there is a stable oxygen rom I think
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I haven't even rooted - but I am quite happy with Oxygen 3, feel no great urge to customise or get CM etc installed. I really like it.
Does Android Pay still work on your device??
Thought I was the only one.
No intention of rooting at the moment.
Have a few apps for work that need a stock phone, plus banking apps etc.
But yep OOS3 seems to have everything with nova launcher.
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Same here, OxygenOS is awesome so far, but I rooted for Xposed.
Those that have been flashing roms for 3+ years pretty much get tired of doing it and want all stock. New people get excited about flashing new roms and do it for 3+ years until they end up getting tired too
Valid points for staying on OOS, it's a good rom that has most all customizations I need and the rest I can get with xposed...
Thing is do you EVER plan on flashing a rom? My answer is of course so I decided to go ahead and decrypt (format data) now as opposed to later after I have all my music, etc loaded on.
Running Grarak's CM13 swimmingly.
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Those that have been flashing roms for 3+ years pretty much get tired of doing it and want all stock. New people get excited about flashing new roms and do it for 3+ years until they end up getting tired too
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Well in my case, I've been flashing rom's for 8 years. This is the first device I've not felt the need out of the box.
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Those that have been flashing roms for 3+ years pretty much get tired of doing it and want all stock. New people get excited about flashing new roms and do it for 3+ years until they end up getting tired too
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+1 here. I've been rooting phones for 5+ years as soon as I got them. But now, I'm wondering if I even need to bother.
Yeah, this is hard one. Thanks devs for quickly coming up with root, unlock, custom, and tweaks. Not sure if rooting is needed. I think we can all agree, if you want more out of the devices, you quickly root. For some reason, that's not necessary for one+3. I'm pretty sure we will get bored and devs will come out with super awesome Roms in the near future with many added tweaks. But this phone is solid. Might need a month's of stock rom usage and more arising issues before I will jump to rooting. Great device no complaints..
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Yes also for me. Great Rom and the first time that I don't want to change the rom!
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I agree, I actually like this stock, I got pretty much everything I need, iI will just miss flashing nightlies but I won't miss all the down time and missed text messages
Been flashing ROMs for 6 years now, always running cm, and I have been seriously considering given oos a few days before flashing, but also I'm to used to cm
I'm waiting for Multiboot/Dualboot patch...keeping Stock-Rom on first "partition" and Custom-ROM on second...

Stock rom or Custom Rom

Hello there,
I am using a google nexus 6. I am on nougat 7.1.1. But from the October security patch my phone is too slow. And now i got an idea to change to custom rom. I want to know which is best.. Stock Rom or Custom Rom? If Custom Rom which one you prefer? Please help me to find a good one.
Thanks!
can you read ?
this is Nexus 6 Android Development thread not Q&A ! go to Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting thread and ask anything you like !
and please read this :
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-10-2014/general/thread-t3603186
@pinkfloyd3: Your response was needlessly harsh, not to mention it being borderline flaming. All you really needed to do is report the post and the moderators would have moved it. So keep that in mind in the future, capisci?
achchu93 said:
I am using a google nexus 6. I am on nougat 7.1.1. But from the October security patch my phone is too slow. And now i got an idea to change to custom rom. I want to know which is best.. Stock Rom or Custom Rom? If Custom Rom which one you prefer? Please help me to find a good one.
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There are no more official updates to the Nexus 6, so if you wish to upgrade the device further you will have little choice but to use a custom ROM. As for what ROM is best for you, that's a question we can't answer. The only thing we can tell you is to try them out to see which one is best for you. Now, as to what custom ROMs we prefer, let's rephrase your question so it reads, "If Custom Rom which one do you use?" as that is what you are actually asking. The responses you get will inevitably fall along the lines of "I use ROM X" anyway.
For example, I use Pure Nexus. It's not Android 8 although the developer has been working on an Android 8 version. However it has the right balance of features for me; it's not stuffed to the gills with features but isn't stock either. Naturally there are Android 8 ROMs out there, and right now the closest to Pure Nexus in having that balance of features is Validus. Even though Validus is officially still in beta it was a very stable ROM when I tried it out. So take a look at the ROMs available, try them out, and choose the one that fits best to you.
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
@pinkfloyd3: Your response was needlessly harsh, not to mention it being borderline flaming. All you really needed to do is report the post and the moderators would have moved it. So keep that in mind in the future, capisci?
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ok i apologize from both of you 
 @achchu93
In my opinion :
7.1.2 : PN (Pure Nexus)
8: currently sixrom v2.1 good for me !
sourcebuilt oreo rom : more stable
GZR Validus : not use it now if your phone is encryption ! you lose all you data
this is my opinion It may not be right
sorry for my bad english
@pinkfloyd3 : I am really sorry. I am not well experienced in this thread stuffs. I was in a curious to upgrade my phone. Thats why i posted here. Sorry if it bothers you.
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
@pinkfloyd3: Your response was needlessly harsh, not to mention it being borderline flaming. All you really needed to do is report the post and the moderators would have moved it. So keep that in mind in the future, capisci?
There are no more official updates to the Nexus 6, so if you wish to upgrade the device further you will have little choice but to use a custom ROM. As for what ROM is best for you, that's a question we can't answer. The only thing we can tell you is to try them out to see which one is best for you. Now, as to what custom ROMs we prefer, let's rephrase your question so it reads, "If Custom Rom which one do you use?" as that is what you are actually asking. The responses you get will inevitably fall along the lines of "I use ROM X" anyway.
For example, I use Pure Nexus. It's not Android 8 although the developer has been working on an Android 8 version. However it has the right balance of features for me; it's not stuffed to the gills with features but isn't stock either. Naturally there are Android 8 ROMs out there, and right now the closest to Pure Nexus in having that balance of features is Validus. Even though Validus is officially still in beta it was a very stable ROM when I tried it out. So take a look at the ROMs available, try them out, and choose the one that fits best to you.
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Thanks alot for your reply. I tried Pure Nexus with Franco kernel. You know both of them impressed me in a great way. after flashing franco kernal my phone is working like a jet. Really happy with this custom rom and kernal.
But still i see lot of people supporting dark rom. It is customized version of Lineage OS right? What do you think about that?
LineageOS is "lipstick on a pig" (look it up). They used Cyanogenmod as a base instead of starting over, meaning they used a base full of untested code. Because of that, it doesn't touch my devices.
The LineageOS devs should have started from scratch. It would have taken longer to get up and running, but the code would be clean and tested.
Well, if you want to keep yourself updated with the latest security patches (and probably features as well) then for this ageing phone, a custom ROM is better than stock all day long.
I'm using Dirty Unicorns 11.7.2, since is most up to date and very stable. PN is a good choice as well.

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