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Death of grandfathered unlimited data

I'm not sure if this has been discussed here or not so I will post it. After June, if you want to continue your unlimited data, you will have to pay full price for the phone. If you take the standard subsidized phone, you will lose your unlimited data. It doesn't matter if your on 3g or 4g. If you want to keep your unlimited data, you will be paying $500-600 for your next phone (unless you buy it used) if you don't buy it before the end of the month.
I have already received confirmation email from Verizon verifying this as there has been much debate about the impact this will have. Basically what I'm saying is, if your eligible for and upgrade, get it now, don't wait, especially if you want to keep the peace of mind of not having to watch your data usage.
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Have they said anything about after you buy the phone for full price if you will have to keep paying full price for new phones or will it just be a 1 time thing?

Gel Pen6 said:
Have they said anything about after you buy the phone for full price if you will have to keep paying full price for new phones or will it just be a 1 time thing?
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At this point, you will have to keep paying full price, or buy a used one. Anything subsidized comes with new contract and death of unlimited data for you.
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smokedkill said:
At this point, you will have to keep paying full price, or buy a used one. Anything subsidized comes with new contract and death of unlimited data for you.
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I'd probably rather pay full price so I'm not locked into a contract on the same phone even though it's more expensive.

The smartphone era was cool while it lasted.
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darthanubis said:
The smartphone era was cool while it lasted.
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Just don't get a new one, or get a used one. You can find them on Craigslist a few months after they come out from the people who are always getting a new phone.
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smokedkill said:
Just don't get a new one, or get a used one. You can find them on Craigslist a few months after they come out from the people who are always getting a new phone.
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This. I looked on Craigslist for the Samsung Galaxy Nexus and I found one for $185 in my area. Well worth it if I had the money.

this is gonna just come back and bit them in the ass, I will wait it out since I can't upgrade until March 13 anyway and I will see what happens but I will not pay full price for a phone, if I need a new one I will just switch providers and get a better deal for being a new customer and have to play that game, just like I do for cable tv

jaymazz13 said:
this is gonna just come back and bit them in the ass, I will wait it out since I can't upgrade until March 13 anyway and I will see what happens but I will not pay full price for a phone, if I need a new one I will just switch providers and get a better deal for being a new customer and have to play that game, just like I do for cable tv
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All depends on how you view the situation since on contracts they're making more money off of you since you're paying more than what the phone actually costs usually and have you locked in for 2 years unless you early terminate it.

Went in and talked to a Verizon rep today and they said I average 7gb a month. If I get the the 10gb data plan I will be paying right around the same amount for my monthly payment.
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[Q] At a fork in a road, need help with a decision for GN3

I'm stuck with an LG Optimus G Pro and I'm starting to notice that they aren't that great with upgrading software. I want to get the Galaxy Note 3... like really badly. My normal upgrade is 5 months away. So I have two or three options. Which would you choose if you were in my shoes, and why?
Option A: Sell LG Optimus G Pro for a few hundred, go onto AT&T Next Plan for 20 months and then use phone w/o contract. Use money from LG Pro to make most of the monthly payments.
Option B: Sell LG Optimus G Pro and Tablet, and buy the Galaxy Note 3 flat out w/o using AT&T next.
Option C: Wait 5 long months, while the worth of the Optimus G Pro and Tablet go down.
Option D: (Your plan if you have a better one.)
I'm really stuck in the mud with this one. What would you do and why? Thanks in advance!

rpride84 said:
I'm stuck with an LG Optimus G Pro and I'm starting to notice that they aren't that great with upgrading software. I want to get the Galaxy Note 3... like really badly. My normal upgrade is 5 months away. So I have two or three options. Which would you choose if you were in my shoes, and why?
Option A: Sell LG Optimus G Pro for a few hundred, go onto AT&T Next Plan for 20 months and then use phone w/o contract. Use money from LG Pro to make most of the monthly payments.
Option B: Sell LG Optimus G Pro and Tablet, and buy the Galaxy Note 3 flat out w/o using AT&T next.
Option C: Wait 5 long months, while the worth of the Optimus G Pro and Tablet go down.
Option D: (Your plan if you have a better one.)
I'm really stuck in the mud with this one. What would you do and why? Thanks in advance!
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A: I see no real benefit of the Next plan unless you want to swap phones every year. You pay tax on the full price, then monthly payments. Sure, there's no contract, but more than likely the remainder of the device's purchase price would be more than an ETF if you canceled the Next plan.
B: If you don't want to be under a contract, then this would be your best bet. Also, you would have a lot more pull with getting a reduction in your bill since you don't have a contract and retentions will do their best to keep you. I.E. the Mobile to Any Mobile w/ Unlimited Messaging on a family plan is available for $20/month through rentions.
C: Nah bro, just nah xD
D: Give retentions a call (611, option 4, option 5 IIRC) and tell them that you are thinking about going to XX carrier to get the Note 3 and just buy out of your current contract. Given that you are 5 months away, they definitely should be willing to work with you. I was offered the $299.99 price on a line that wasn't due for an upgrade until July 2014, so it's definitely possible. Then, you could sell the LG phone and/or the tablet to reduce the cost of the Note 3.
I would try D first and see where that gets you. If the first rep isn't willing to help, then call back and try again, although I've never had to call for back for a second rep. If all of that fails, then I would sell the phone and tablet and have a net out-of-pocket cost of next to nothing for the Note 3. Hope this helps.

Suggestion:
Sell what you got and buy it with a 2 year contract this phone is bad a F will be powerful for a while IMO
I would call At&T and tell them you been a customer for this long and basicly kiss some ass this has worked in the past where they will let you get the discounted 2 year price early if you play your cards right
P.s. if you are into ROMs and all that I would hold tight on that stuff until the boot loader is unlocked you can read up about that on the forums.
Good luck
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Would definitely call customer service. I wasn't due for an upgrade until May 2014. They went ahead and approved the exception upgrade and even mistakenly misquoted me a price of $199. Good luck.
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First off, the Next plan is a ripoff, you're essentially paying full retail for a phone that isn't yours when the year is up. The payments are just spread out, and you're always under AT&T 's thumb. I am a firm believer in never getting tied into contracts, especially with phone companies. If you are out from under your AT&T contract I would seriously take a look at some of the mvnos out there. Compared with AT&T prices for comparable plans you can save anywhere from $45-$75 a month. Yes you have to pay retail for a phone, but it's yours to do with as you wish, and you're saving $540-$900 a year by going with one of those guys. And if you decide to sell your phone when the next version comes out, you will get a good return. That is my option D. I left AT&T two years ago and haven't looked back.
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Please take this conversation here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=46091359
It has no place in a Q&A section development thread.
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T-Mobile Jump: All Hype

Last time I was in the T-Mobile store, the clerk told me about their "Jump" program. It sounded great: You give them your old phone, they give you a new one, your monthly payments stay the same. No brainer. Go for it.
Something, however, didn't feel right. I went over the words again in my mind. You give them your old phone, they give you a new one, your monthly payments stay the same. What could possibly be wrong with that?
I took it apart:
1) You give them your old phone.
No problem. It's old. I want a new one.
2) They give you a new one.
Trade in your old, obsolete phone for a band new, cutting edge device. Cool.
3) Your monthly payments stay the same.
Paying the exact same amount for a brand new phone as what I was paying for my old phone. I can afford that.
Sound too good to be true?
It is.
When you do the math, it becomes obvious that when you jump, you lose money.
Think about "You give them your old phone". Notice the word "give". That means you get nothing in return. You may be thinking, "No, I AM getting something in return - a band new phone!
Wrong. T-Mobile makes it seem like it's all one big happy transaction. The Jump, however, actually consists of two separate transactions: giving them your old phone, and, getting a new phone.
1) Giving them your old phone
T-Mobile makes you think that when you give them your old phone, you get a new one in return. It sounds great because we think that the value of the old phone necessarily is less than that of the new phone. You say to yourself, Wow! I can't believe they're doing that! Well, they're not.
You have been paying off the old phone for quite a while, and have built up "equity" of a few hundred dollars, which is the basis for the true value of the old phone. When you jump, you give T-Mobile those hundreds of dollars as a gift. It seems like you get back the amount still left on the loan because T-Mobile "pays" it for you. That amount is always smaller than what you've already paid. It has to be, otherwise, T-Mobile wouldn't pay it. They make sure that they never lose money on the deal in two ways. 1) THEY tell YOU how much your old phone is worth, and, 2) You can jump only every six months (after which the amount you've paid on the loan exceeds what's left).
Now, what is the value of their payment of the balance of the old phone? Zero. When you give them the phone, you no longer owe the balance. You don't have the phone any more, they do. If you were to continue paying the loan off, you would be building up T-Mobile's equity rather than your own.
What is really happening is the following:
- You pay full price for your old phone, and then you give it away for nothing.
2) Getting a new phone
When T-Mobile says, "You get a brand new phone but the payments stay the same", they are drawing your attention away from the fact that when you jump, you take out a loan on the new phone for its full price. The payments don't "stay the same". The same as what? The loan you had on the old phone, which, as we've seen, is a separate transaction. So, the fact that the payments "stay the same" doesn't put a dime in your pocket. Ironically, you are the one ensuring that the payments stay the same by putting down a couple of hundred dollars. Oh, wait a minute, I forgot something. T-Mobile charges $10/mo to jump. So the payments actually increase.
What is really happening is the following:
- You pay full price for the new phone, and pay T-Mobile $10/mo for the privilege.
I didn't jump.

From my understanding if you owe money on the 6 month or less "old phone" then it is paid off. If you don't owe money on the "old phone" you get the trade in value of the phone. Which is what you would get anyways. And for someone who likes to switch there phone up every 3 or so months when a new "interesting" phone comes out, its a pretty good thing....
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You're wrong on the "Jump every six months part". You initially wait 6 months after signing up to be able to use Jump, after that you can get two new devices within twelve months with no wait time in between. I verified that with three T-Mobile reps. Say I buy the Nexus 5 this week (which I am) and the Galaxy S5 comes out next month and I want that.. Guess what? I can go trade my device in for that S5. But then I'm out of upgrades for almost a year..

jump program from what i was also told is that it comes with warranty, so if i lost my phone or what not, it will be covered.....

Dude the $10 replaces your old php/ warranty which could be higher . so no its not a separate charge. I was paying 15 for insurance/ warranty and when I registered for jump it REPLACED that charge for $10. So I saved $5 a month. Also when you trade in your old phone any balance left is paid off and yes you are technically leasing a phone but you don't have to JUMP every six months. It actually works out better than their previous plan. I have two separate payment plans before jump because I didn't realize they were actually starting a new credit line for every phone you financed. I thought it was adding to the total. This plan leaves you with one balance to pay and not multiple.
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jbreeze228 said:
You're wrong on the "Jump every six months part". You initially wait 6 months after signing up to be able to use Jump, after that you can get two new devices within twelve months with no wait time in between. I verified that with three T-Mobile reps. Say I buy the Nexus 5 this week (which I am) and the Galaxy S5 comes out next month and I want that.. Guess what? I can go trade my device in for that S5. But then I'm out of upgrades for almost a year..
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Sorry that's not how it works either. If you buy your nexus device with jump you have to wait six months in between for the twice a year upgrade. I've also been told this by a few reps. I'd like to know the specifoc s of this.
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monkeypaws said:
Dude the $10 replaces your old php/ warranty which could be higher . so no its not a separate charge. I was paying 15 for insurance/ warranty and when I registered for jump it REPLACED that charge for $10. So I saved $5 a month. Also when you trade in your old phone any balance left is paid off and yes you are technically leasing a phone but you don't have to JUMP every six months. It actually works out better than their previous plan. I have two separate payment plans before jump because I didn't realize they were actually starting a new credit line for every phone you financed. I thought it was adding to the total. This plan leaves you with one balance to pay and not multiple.
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Sorry that's not how it works either. If you buy your nexus device with jump you have to wait six months in between for the twice a year upgrade. I've also been told this by a few reps. I'd like to know the specifoc s of this.
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That's very possible for it to be that case. But for me to be misquoted by three reps is pretty bad on T-Mobile's part. The last time I called was to verify my Jump Upgrade date last week and the guy went through all the specifics of the program and said after you wait the initial 6 months, after that you can upgrade two times in one year regardless of the time between the upgrades. But I just like the fact that I can upgrade two times in one year and have it added to monthly bill.

Well, it sounds like if you consistently jump you're basically leasing your phones...
Pay monthly for it, JUMP to a new one, and continue paying. Might be okay for some people, might not. Really depends on how often you upgrade and whether or not you really need to. I love having the latest stuff, but the Nexus 5 seems to satisfy me in every way possible. Don't know how it could get much better right now (camera, MAYBE - I never really take pictures anyway), so I may end up keeping this phone past my typical year of owning a device.
I haven't paid insurance on my devices in quite some time. Waste of money for me considering how cheap the Nexus line is nowadays, plus I've never broke, damaged, or lost a phone in the past 10 years. Wouldn't really like paying the $10/mo, plus the new phone payments, even with a value plan.

craigbailey1986 said:
From my understanding if you owe money on the 6 month or less "old phone" then it is paid off. If you don't owe money on the "old phone" you get the trade in value of the phone. Which is what you would get anyways. And for someone who likes to switch there phone up every 3 or so months when a new "interesting" phone comes out, its a pretty good thing....
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This is correct. When you first sign up with jump you have to wait six months to"jump". After that you can jump twice a year whenever you want, you can jump twice in one week but then have to wait another year to do it again. There are pros and cons to this plan and depends on the person to decide if it is useful to them. Remember OP just like flashing it's your choice, don't try to blame T-Mobile for a choice that you make.
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Let me break it down for you a bit:
Person 1 buys an HTC One at full price through T-Mobile at $600 (price when I purchased mine) no JUMP.
Person 2 buys the same HTC One for $0 down with payments equalling $25 beginning in Month #2 with $10 per month for JUMP.
Both parties pay the tax for the full price of the device so that's a mute point.
6 months down the road (when you are JUMP eligible for the first time) you trade in the HTC One for a Nexus 5.
Person 1 sells the HTC One for $369 (the current avg selling price according to Swappa.com) and buys a Nexus 5 from Google for $350 (again we ignore tax) making the total outlay:
0-600+369-350 = -$581
Person 2 walks into T-Mobile and trades the HTC One in and walks out the door with a new Nexus 5 for $0 down and $16.50 per month. Saving $8.50 per month from the HTC One. Total outlay:
0-150(payments of $25 x 6) - 60 = -$205
Let's also mention that JUMP gives you the insurance as well.
With the cost of mobile devices depreciating head over heels it makes no sense to purchase your devices outright if you plan on upgrading on any sort of routine. The equity drops too fast, almost 40% in 6 months. T-Mobile will make its money in 2 places:
1- people who dont want to upgrade
2- people who put money down on their device due to bad credit or when a 0 down deal isn't running
Also its a 1 time 6-month buffer period until you can use JUMP. After that point you may use it 2 times per 12 month period starting with your first JUMP date
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moose1313 said:
This is correct. When you first sign up with jump you have to wait six months to"jump". After that you can jump twice a year whenever you want, you can jump twice in one week but then have to wait another year to do it again. There are pros and cons to this plan and depends on the person to decide if it is useful to them. Remember OP just like flashing it's your choice, don't try to blame T-Mobile for a choice that you make.
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My bad then. That sounds great. My six months will be up in march and I'll be able to do my first jump.
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Guess I should have jumped.... Or, should I have?

PhilipTD said:
I didn't know you could get a phone with no money down.
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$0 money down and 0 signal in any area not within the confines of a very large city.
You get what you pay for

jdk2 said:
$0 money down and 0 signal in any area not within the confines of a very large city.
You get what you pay for
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That's true. Reception is pretty bad in the countryside. Good thing I'm not into nature.

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$0 money down and 0 signal in any area not within the confines of a very large city.
You get what you pay for
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Depends on the area for sure. I'm in the Lakeland area (between Tampa and Orlando FL) and I've had LTE for a long time now and Verizon can't match it. T-Mobile has really taken off within the past 3 years
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altimax98 said:
Depends on the area for sure. I'm in the Lakeland area (between Tampa and Orlando FL) and I've had LTE for a long time now and Verizon can't match it. T-Mobile has really taken off within the past 3 years
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Here's hoping they keep up the momentum. They could bring AT&T and VZW to their knees.

Nice post altimax :thumbup::beer:
I jumped the day it came out. Haven't used yet. Glad I have it though
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jbdan said:
Nice post altimax :thumbup::beer:
I jumped the day it came out. Haven't used yet. Glad I have it though
Nexus5
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No problem, just trying to clarify it... The key is to only JUMP when they do the $0 down deals which is quite often.
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altimax98 said:
Person 1 sells the HTC One for $369 (the current avg selling price according to Swappa.com) and buys a Nexus 5 from Google for $350 (again we ignore tax) making the total outlay:
0-600+369-350 = -$581
Person 2 walks into T-Mobile and trades the HTC One in and walks out the door with a new Nexus 5 for $0 down and $16.50 per month. Saving $8.50 per month from the HTC One. Total outlay:
0-150(payments of $25 x 6) - 60 = -$205
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I think it's a worthy mention that person 2 still owes the price of nexus 5.... so it be 396 + 205 if he doesn't upgrade again. He can jump to avoid paying the debt of the current phone, but eventually he'll be paying full price for a phone.
Person 1 can upgrade as soon as the new hot phone comes out. Person 2 has to wait for 0 down promotion or suffer a loss.

neugenusis said:
I think it's a worthy mention that person 2 still owes the price of nexus 5.... so it be 396 + 205 if he doesn't upgrade again. He can jump to avoid paying the debt of the current phone, but eventually he'll be paying full price for a phone. Person 1 can upgrade as soon as the new hot phone comes out. Person 2 has to wait for 0 down promotion or suffer a loss.
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Yeah, you're exactly right, the $396 loss becomes obscured in the verbiage.

I prefer to just stick to buying my phones off-contract. With the Nexus line being so great at such an amazing price, it seems way better than perpetually paying $20+ a month to basically rent a phone.
Not to mention that pre-paid prices are *so* much better. Like, half the price better. And if you want insurance, you can always get it through one of the many phone insurance companies by yourself for cheaper.

Rooting tmobile note 4 and jump plan

Hello everyone, I just switched to tmobile from sprint and I had the jump plan. I will like to root my phone and install some custom roms. But, Idk if I root my phone will void my jump plan. If anyone has the please do not hesitate to reply my question. Thanx for reading
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johnson114 said:
Hello everyone, I just switched to tmobile from sprint and I had the jump plan. I will like to root my phone and install some custom roms. But, Idk if I root my phone will void my jump plan. If anyone has the please do not hesitate to reply my question. Thanx for reading
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I've had T Mobile for about 3 years now and ive traded in 3 or 4 of my past phones, all rooted.
I traded my S3, S4, Note 3, Nexus 5 all rooted.
Just make sure before you turn it in, it's back to factory settings (i.e. Odin a stock Firmware.)
Of course the Knox will still be tripped, but T Mobile doesnt care about that, more of a Samsung Warranty issue rather than T Mobile.
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Thank you @devynbf for your info. I'll go ahead and root my phone.
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OP can you tell me what value you see in Tmobile's JUMP?
Since you're ready talking about trading in your Note 4 it's safe to assume 6 months or 1 year from now you're willing to let it go at half the cost? Half the cost of today's current Tmobile price is $349.
A mint condition Note 3 on ebay or craigslist will sell for that much.
Hence the question what's the value in Jump? Why would I wanna pay someone 10 dollars a month for the benefit of selling my device at half the cost? I think I can do better myself without a monthly fee

T Mobile employee here, rooting your phone will not trigger anything for a tmobile employee while they inspect your phones, the main thing we look for is water damage, screen, and it turns on and runs. Anything outside of that we will pretty much ask you to make an insurance claim and pay the 175 dollar deductible.
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Keep in mind tho, when we mess up, and accept a device that needed a claim, the price of the device comes out of our pockets. Yes it sucks.

Depends on jump program
BAD ASS NOTE 4 & GEAR S

shook187 said:
OP can you tell me what value you see in Tmobile's JUMP?
Since you're ready talking about trading in your Note 4 it's safe to assume 6 months or 1 year from now you're willing to let it go at half the cost? Half the cost of today's current Tmobile price is $349.
A mint condition Note 3 on ebay or craigslist will sell for that much.
Hence the question what's the value in Jump? Why would I wanna pay someone 10 dollars a month for the benefit of selling my device at half the cost? I think I can do better myself without a monthly fee
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I have the very first jump program.
It's amazing.
It's $10/month, and it counts as insurance if ny device decides to fall in the toilet.
It also lets me upgrade my device every 6 months. As long as you trade in the original device and its functional.
Best thing T Mobile has ever done, especially with all the new devices being released.
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devynbf said:
I have the very first jump program.
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My question obviously wasn't directed towards those on JUMP 1

shook187 said:
OP can you tell me what value you see in Tmobile's JUMP?
Since you're ready talking about trading in your Note 4 it's safe to assume 6 months or 1 year from now you're willing to let it go at half the cost? Half the cost of today's current Tmobile price is $349.
A mint condition Note 3 on ebay or craigslist will sell for that much.
Hence the question what's the value in Jump? Why would I wanna pay someone 10 dollars a month for the benefit of selling my device at half the cost? I think I can do better myself without a monthly fee
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I'm assuming since he just switched over that he's on the new JUMP plan. By the time you've paid off 50% of the device on that plan you're 12 payments in. After 1 year I'm not sure if you'd be able to sell the device for more than $325.92 (half of retail) unless it's in 100% mint condition. (I could be wrong). As an example Swappa says the Note 3 is selling for an average price of $335 right now in February 15. I guess it's really a wash. I don't use a case on my devices and they typically get pretty beat up. T-Mobile will take it back all scratched up and beat up looking as long as the screen is not cracked and the water indicator isn't tripped.. You're going to be getting around the same price as trying to sell it online without having to deal with the hassle and shipping issues.
I'm on the old JUMP plan so it definitely makes sense for me. As long as you purchase the phone with 0 down, you're just paying up front taxes and 6 months worth of payments. At $27.16 for 6 months my total investment is $52.14 front tax plus $162.96 equals $215.10. So I'm only paying $430 per year and getting a brand new device every 6 months. I don't count the cost of the monthly JUMP since I would be paying for insurance anyway. T-Mobile is paying $488.88 for my device after owning it for only 6 months. I'm okay with that. You won't get that much selling online after 6 months for a used device that's scratched up.

Scartaris12 said:
I'm assuming since he just switched over that he's on the new JUMP plan. By the time you've paid off 50% of the device on that plan you're 12 payments in. After 1 year I'm not sure if you'd be able to sell the device for more than $325.92 (half of retail) unless it's in 100% mint condition. (I could be wrong). As an example Swappa says the Note 3 is selling for an average price of $335 right now in February 15. I guess it's really a wash. I don't use a case on my devices and they typically get pretty beat up. T-Mobile will take it back all scratched up and beat up looking as long as the screen is not cracked and the water indicator isn't tripped.. You're going to be getting around the same price as trying to sell it online without having to deal with the hassle and shipping issues.
I'm on the old JUMP plan so it definitely makes sense for me. As long as you purchase the phone with 0 down, you're just paying up front taxes and 6 months worth of payments. At $27.16 for 6 months my total investment is $52.14 front tax plus $162.96 equals $215.10. So I'm only paying $430 per year and getting a brand new device every 6 months. I don't count the cost of the monthly JUMP since I would be paying for insurance anyway. T-Mobile is paying $488.88 for my device after owning it for only 6 months. I'm okay with that. You won't get that much selling online after 6 months for a used device that's scratched up.
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Technically they are not paying anything... They have a different math than us "consumers' ... any new device comes out from the factory cost no more than $150 if not less "Google it". Plus when your return the phone they sell it somehow and make money from it. So these companies making billions of dollars anyways from us. But in our math yeah it's good to change the phone every 6 month and so on and we only pay around $250

Nexus 6 - still worth it?

Android - I'm coming home! Now to find a phone.
Been looking at the Nexus 6 pretty hard. I don't want LG, and I refuse to pay premium prices for a Haiwei crash-o-matic piece of junk.
Spent some time at Best Buy today fondling a Nexus 6 - love the screen, love the feel, love the speed.
So, nearly a year after it's release, is it still worth it? Thinking about doing another 2 year with AT&T, which would make it $149, or $349 outright through Best Buy.
THoughts?

Plain and simple: Yes
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Its as cool to have as an Indialantic beach!

People are still happy with their Nexus 4's for that matter, so I'd say yes, it's still worth it for the next 2 years. Although personally I despise 2 year contracts.

Most definitely. I have a Galaxy S6 and this thing blows it out of the water, except the camera. Way faster, much more support, better battery life.. Although I figured I'd get more than what I do. I'm keeping my eye out on the upcoming Nexus(es) but I have a feeling I'll stick with this and the S6 for awhile.
BTW I just purchased this about a month ago from Swappa. Couldn't stand being locked down with the S6 anymore.
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Traded my G4 for a nexus and its so much better so YES ! Great screen, speakers and performance !! I will never use a skinned Android phone again !
Verstuurd vanaf mijn Nexus 6 met Tapatalk

Hmmmm... I just looked at the AT&T website - it was there last night, not there this morning.
I hope this doesn't mean they pulled it.
If they did my only hope is that they make the Moto X Pure available, but I am doubtful.

JWhipple said:
Hmmmm... I just looked at the AT&T website - it was there last night, not there this morning.
I hope this doesn't mean they pulled it.
If they did my only hope is that they make the Moto X Pure available, but I am doubtful.
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Get the unlocked version! That way you have options. IMO, over the next 2-5 years, we are going to see major changes in the way cellular, and probably all technology, services are handled. It would suck to be locked in for the next 2 years.
Im on Straight Talk for $50 a month and using AT&T towers in my area w/ 4g LTE. Unlimited everthing Full speed up to 5g and throttled after that. Unless you are grandfathered in on some amazing deal, being locked in always favors the carrier.
BTW, Best Buy has 6 month interest free financing.

byrdcfmma said:
Get the unlocked version! That way you have options. IMO, over the next 2-5 years, we are going to see major changes in the way cellular, and probably all technology, services are handled. It would suck to be locked in for the next 2 years.
Im on Straight Talk for $50 a month and using AT&T towers in my area w/ 4g LTE. Unlimited everthing Full speed up to 5g and throttled after that. Unless you are grandfathered in on some amazing deal, being locked in always favors the carrier.
BTW, Best Buy has 6 month interest free financing.
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I want the unlocked one, but funding is tight... plus so is the wife's purse LOL
She controls the money in the house so I play by her rules - happy wife, happy life!
Regarding the financing, I tried already - because I had a bankruptcy in the past 3 years Best Buy won't give me any credit (even though every other bank in the free world seems to be throwing it at me!)

My wife about cut me when I ordered our Nexus 6's because of the price haha! But now that she has one I doubt she'll let me get her out of the Nexus lineup from here on out. The Nexus community doesn't seem to die out like our devices often do. The hardware really isn't that dated. I admit the camera is a bit lacking on this device. Finding a case can be a challenge if you're a destroyer of phones like myself. But the speed, screen and speakers on this phone are amazing!
Case wise I had to get a unicorn beetle. It has saved my phone twice now.

I contacted AT&T via Facebook - all they could tell me is that it wasn't available right now - which doesn't necessarily mean that they will not have it again, just that it's not available NOW. Go figure...

JWhipple said:
I contacted AT&T via Facebook - all they could tell me is that it wasn't available right now - which doesn't necessarily mean that they will not have it again, just that it's not available NOW. Go figure...
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New Nexus is coming out later on this month or next month. It's made by Huawei. Guess AT&T have just unloaded all their old stock. Amazon and ebay sellers are doing the same.

JWhipple said:
Android - I'm coming home! Now to find a phone.
Been looking at the Nexus 6 pretty hard. I don't want LG, and I refuse to pay premium prices for a Haiwei crash-o-matic piece of junk.
Spent some time at Best Buy today fondling a Nexus 6 - love the screen, love the feel, love the speed.
So, nearly a year after it's release, is it still worth it? Thinking about doing another 2 year with AT&T, which would make it $149, or $349 outright through Best Buy.
THoughts?
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Thank you for your service!!!

Metalman1020468 said:
Thank you for your service!!!
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Semper Fi!