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It seems really slow getting things off the ground. Apart from decdexed and roto who seem to have hit a brick wall, no-one else appears to be developing. To me, this seems really odd considering Samsung claim to have shifted a million plus units. Is there an underlying reason that devs haven't got behind the tab? Is it proving a difficult beast to master?
The whole reason i got the tab was because i assumed the dev community would fully back it. It doesn't seem to be the case which is making me consider jumping ship to a tab which i know will be supported.
What is everyone's thoughts?
I fully appreciate the work Rot and decodexed have done and hope they have more success in the near future.
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For sure there will be devs to focus the mod of ROM. But frankly speaking, after compared with the performance of my galaxy s, I can say only that the original tab rom is good enough even without deodexed an zipaligned.
Of course if there is better ROM, I feel happy too.
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I tend to agree - unlike other phones, stock performance is pretty good and there's little else that I personally need from the Tab.
Regards,
Dave
I think this device is absolutely perfect for cyanogenmod. With its speed and opensource goodness, this thing will truly hit its stride.
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Price of tab
A few of the devs I spoke with pretty much said they would love to work on it, but its a bit pricey and none of them had one. Maybe once a few of them get ahold of one, they will start developing for it.
i agree. Development has been slow. But i kind of figured it would be. Its because of the price of the device. i think the tab is good but not great. I was expecting more, i feel like it needs to be tweaked. i mean the hardware is there its just the software, imo, thats lacking or not keeping up. I multitask like crazy on this thing! I feel like it cant keep up with me which is a shame. I think we should start a mini pot. Meaning everyone donates a couple bucks. We gather the money and buy a tab. then we give the tab to one capable dev who cant afford one. This will kickstart development. Kinda like how google gave nexus' to devs. What you think?
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I think it is because the device with stock rom is fairly good and since jm6 it is very close to being perfect unlike the sgs who needed so many tweaks and hacks to get to this stage.
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What new features or improvements do you imagine in an alternative ROM for the Tab?
If you can't name a few, then what exactly is the point of developing one? As soon as the juicy new features of Gingerbread and maybe even Honeycomb start spreading around a bit, I'm sure a lot of Tab users will see stuff they'd like a piece of. That's when the dev scene will take off.
I would like a modified kernel. One that undervolts and overclocks the processor. I would like to see better memory management. I don't know what they can do there but my RAM is almost always full and I need to kill tasks. Didn't think I would need to do this but I do. Maybe include BFS (I heard its better for multitasking). I would to see a modified modem.bin file. One that allows both 3G and phone. That's about it. I'm on JM6 and it does run well but I have been having a few issues with this tab. Not enough for me to return it or anything close to that. I do love it. But I feel like it has more to offer.
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Thought of something else. Maybe push the camera to record better videos. Enable video recording from the front facing camera would be nice.
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Slow going
I thought for sure would see some great roms by now. This is the reason i picked up the tab. I'm hopeful development will pick up soon!
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What new features or improvements do you imagine in an alternative ROM for the Tab?
If you can't name a few, then what exactly is the point of developing one? As soon as the juicy new features of Gingerbread and maybe even Honeycomb start spreading around a bit, I'm sure a lot of Tab users will see stuff they'd like a piece of. That's when the dev scene will take off.
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Here are a few:
- working nandroid backup/restore (amon ra)
- integrated openvpn
- quiet hours settings
- fix for current home screen artefacting
- better inbuilt camera
- better music app / music widget
- phone function for all and correct APNs
- smoother scrolling and window transitions
- improved battery life
- inbuilt status and notification bar customizations
- flexible performance settings
- fix for exchange email start up and listing lag
- inbuilt torch
- improved stock browser
Etc. (CM nightlies)
Practically all that has been done for Nexus One, and Nexus was awesome when its came out stock either
From the little info i've seen on the Nexus S it seems that Gingerbread does the Hummingbird justice and it would be nice to see the Tab a bit smoother and better front camera implementation.
All the things that shmigao listed...
I've come to this from a Nexus One like others. The mod community really pushed that little fellow to be one of the best pocketable Android devices that currently exists. Just a bit of that love aimed at the Tab would be awesome . Still early days yet...
i think too that alternatives roms development is too slow...i dont know why especially since sgs and sgt are identical platforms..i have seen insanity rom on an sgs and i cant wait to flash it to my taqb too...please xda-dev an insanity rom 4 my tab!!!
build in cifs would be nice
rom based on 2.3 as we will have to wait few months for Samsung..
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Native SIP
This is my first Android device and the only thing I miss so far is native SIP which is promised already in 2.3:
http://developer.android.com/sdk/android-2.3-highlights.html#UserFeatures
The most important feature to me is making/taking VoIP calls using bluetooth headset.
So Sipdroid is not doing it properly.
shmigao said:
Here are a few:
- working nandroid backup/restore (amon ra)
- integrated openvpn
- quiet hours settings
- fix for current home screen artefacting
- better inbuilt camera
- better music app / music widget
- phone function for all and correct APNs
- smoother scrolling and window transitions
- improved battery life
- inbuilt status and notification bar customizations
- flexible performance settings
- fix for exchange email start up and listing lag
- inbuilt torch
- improved stock browser
Etc. (CM nightlies)
Practically all that has been done for Nexus One, and Nexus was awesome when its came out stock either
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i would be happy once i am able to use my Tab for voice and data with my current Vibrant SIM. I am able to use voice after flashing the Euro Rom but still no data. COME ON SOMEONE PLEASE GET THIS WORKED OUT!!!! that is all i need nothing else....
I could be wrong but I think the main thing that is holding back development on the Tab is the lack of a stable recovery ROM. Just today, Koush from ClockworkMod tweeted that he would be happy to write a custom recovery for the Tab if someone would be willing to send him their Tab for a few days.
I don't have a Tab yet or I would send him mine. Perhaps a better idea would be to buy him one. Then not only would we get a good stable custom recovery but we would reap the benefits of his future development using the before mentioned TAB.
Put me down for $25. Anyone else?
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I could be wrong but I think the main thing that is holding back development on the Tab is the lack of a stable recovery ROM. Just today, Koush from ClockworkMod tweeted that he would be happy to write a custom recovery for the Tab if someone would be willing to send him their Tab for a few days.
I don't have a Tab yet or I would send him mine. Perhaps a better idea would be to buy him one. Then not only would we get a good stable custom recovery but we would reap the benefits of his future development using the before mentioned TAB.
Put me down for $25. Anyone else?
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I'd happily lend him mine, but what with me being in the UK it's unlikely. I'd put about £20 to getting him one.
shmigao said:
Here are a few:
- working nandroid backup/restore (amon ra)
- integrated openvpn
- quiet hours settings
- fix for current home screen artefacting
- better inbuilt camera
- better music app / music widget
- phone function for all and correct APNs
- smoother scrolling and window transitions
- improved battery life
- inbuilt status and notification bar customizations
- flexible performance settings
- fix for exchange email start up and listing lag
- inbuilt torch
- improved stock browser
Etc. (CM nightlies)
Practically all that has been done for Nexus One, and Nexus was awesome when its came out stock either
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+1 on the list
The tab isn't that expensive, it's practically the same $$$ for an iPad. I agree that the Tab is pretty darn good out of the box, but being an avid XDA- Dev poster and follower for all ROM's on the Droid Incredible, rooting and flashing ROM's is essential in which a simple animation here and there keeps the look and feel of the device feel brand new like is the case with my D-Inc. For a while I was considering switching to a Fascinate, but it only runs Android 2.1 plus other differences, but being rooted and flashing the most up to date version of Android keeps things fresh and helps me wait out for the newest version of the Incredible (Incredible HD).
Hey CDMA Tab Owners,
Hopefully we get off to a good foot this time but I was really curious what some of your thoughts and ideas would be for a new ROM? I notice the selection is a bit thin with a single ROM for each. I've been dabbing around the last couple days and I think I have a fair idea of where development stands for the Tab right now. Primarily GSM but I'd like to start some CDMA development of my own. Anyone looking for something besides what is already out there? (Don't say a HC port , not happening, yet.)
I'd love to hear some ideas. My thoughts on this are to start easy and have a primary focus of making the tablet a better, well tablet. I like AOSP/CM6/CM7 as much as the next guy but they just don't feel right on a tablet. So I definitely am leaning towards trying to optimize the tablet experience as much as possible to differentiate it further from a phone. Maybe look into some custom apps, nothing is off the table.
Please keep this clean and thoughtful.
Thank you.
I've been so confused as to why there is such a small amount of development for the CDMA tabs.
Anyways, thanks for taking a leap...I think a custom ROM, for starters, should be something that is deodexed for theming capabilities and has all of the bloatware removed to save space. I'm not too worried about having an OC kernel, yet, since I tried the one that is out for CDMA tabs and my phone bricked
I am willing to test what you put out, so let me know what you are able to come up with
Liberty or something like it !
I own a Droid x as well as my tab and would love to see Liberty or something like it. I would love to see a pulldown bar text editor, the Liberty toolbox where you can tweak settings yourself. I like the Khasmek orange theme and Im running it now with Voodoo rom with lag fixes and running like 2200+ quadrant, it's silky smooth I love it but would love to see more color options and more attention to the device. Something that optimizes the system as much as possible to save the battery and make the device last longer between charges. Nothing too specific just want Liberty, Apex, Rubix (which I haven't tried on my X but hear its good) Doesn't even have to be named any of those names, can be a mix of all of them with a different name...I would really love to see more development for this device my hope was restored when i saw Khasmeks orange theme and put it on my tab !!
ok
apparently only like 3 of us care ! lol
OK, its time to upgrade my trusty DHD.....
...but what gets my hard-earned (no, really) pennies?
To me there are 4 options........
1) HTC One X
2) Samsung Galaxy Note
3) Wait until the 30th and get the Samsung Galaxy SIII
4) Keep the DHD for another 12 months and benefit from a cheaper contract.
So, if it was your pennies getting spent, where would they be going?
I'm looking for views from existing SGN users here. Do you love the Note? Hate it? What do you like most about it, and what drives you potty?
Thanks in advance for your comments.
Rob
I love my note. It's definitely my favorite phone out of the 8 smartphones I've owned (iPhone 2G, 3G, 3GS, 4, HTC Sensation, Samsung Vibrant, LG G2X). The downside? It is the most disappointing phone development wise. There doesn't seem to be any good ROM out there. Stock is painfully slow. There is no CM7 which is really disappointing. Any of the ICS I've seen out has had major problems which is why I haven't upgraded yet. There are horror stories about people bring their phones when upgrading to ICS and so far it doesn't seem to be a small number of people which is really sad. Samsung is JUST rolling out ICS now but I've heard stock ICS is also very slow and if you have CWM on or from what I understand have rooted your phone at all, you run a huge risk of bricking if you try put ICS on.
TL DR; If you don't mind staying stock for a WHILE, get the Note because it's awesome having a huge screen, resolution, and the SPen.
EDIT: Spelling
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I love my note. It's definitely my favorite phone out of the 8 smartphones I've owned (iPhone 2G, 3G, 3GS, 4, HTC Sensation, Samsung Vibrant, LG G2X). The downside? It is the most disappointing phone development wise. There doesn't seem to be any good ROM out there. Stock is painfully slow. There is no CM7 which is really disappointing. Any of the ICS I've seen out has had major problems which is why I haven't upgraded yet. There are horror stories about people bring their phones when upgrading to ICS and so far it doesn't seem to be a small number of people which is really sad. Samsung is JUST rolling out ICS now but I've heard stock ICS is also very slow and if you have CWM on or from what I understand have rooted your phone at all, you run a huge risk of bricking if you try put ICS on.
TL DR; If you don't mind staying stock for a WHILE, get the Note because it's awesome having a huge screen, resolution, and the SPen.
EDIT: Spelling
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Exactly my thoughts! Thanks for saving me the trouble of typing. I am lazy as hell.
I flashed tons of ROMs and back to stock. At least I won't be bricking my phone this way.
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To the OP: If I were you, I would get the One X or the S3, depending on the needs. Like I need the sd card and removable battery so it would rather be the S3 for me. Assuming you haven't used the note for long, both these phones must feel great to you. For almost all of us here, they are just too darn small. Once you use a note, you just get addicted to it.
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Thanks guys. Keep them coming.
I played with the Note and the HOX today and liked them both, but the huge Note battery is drawing me towards it.
I'm 6'1" and have hands like pan-shovels so the size of the Note isnt a -ve to me.
love mine too!
Yeah loving the bigger screen. I'd never go back to something smaller.
On a different note.. (haha) had mine a month and have rooted and switched the rom and Kernel.. wasn't very hard just had to get over the mind set of bricking it.
Buy one!
Note, large screen, s-pen apps (if you're inclined to use them), some good roms, ICS development with the new builds should be on their way soon
the rest? S3, rather than 1x. or at least wait till reviews come out comparing the 2.
wait
wait for Galaxy S3 - I allready have it and It's awsome!!!
RobTheRover said:
OK, its time to upgrade my trusty DHD.....
...but what gets my hard-earned (no, really) pennies?
To me there are 4 options........
1) HTC One X
2) Samsung Galaxy Note
3) Wait until the 30th and get the Samsung Galaxy SIII
4) Keep the DHD for another 12 months and benefit from a cheaper contract.
So, if it was your pennies getting spent, where would they be going?
I'm looking for views from existing SGN users here. Do you love the Note? Hate it? What do you like most about it, and what drives you potty?
Thanks in advance for your comments.
Rob
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The Note is fabulous - better than the GNex I came from. Why? The screen principally - the Galaxy nexus screen just seemed so small compared!
I think the answer is this:
1. If you want the latest tech - go for the One X or the S3.
2. However, as it's so early in their life cycle you don't know what problems they will have (other than we already know the OneX has cr*p battery life) and we all know that no phone is perfect. Each phone I've had (and I've had a few) has had it's own unique issue.
3. If screen size is important, forget the other two and go for the Note. There is just simply no question of that (until Note II is announced in future!)
Maybe quad core will be a bit faster than dual core but I doubt it will make much of a difference in everyday use. In any event, I hate TW / Sense etc so always remove that bloatware and, hey presto, android flies on the Note (not that it was sluggish with TW).
And the lack of reliable ICS at the moment? In the words of Catherine Tate (look her up if you're not British!) - am I bovvered? There's such a clamour for it and, yes, it's a bit prettier and more logical in places but GB is absolutely fine for 99.98%.
Just my £0.02. Good luck with the decision.
Edit: Just seen that you're a brit - no need to look up Catherine Tate! More importantly, just realised you've got a DHD. Move on, you won't be disappointed. Sure, tech will move on over the next few monts, years etc but it always does.
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In the words of Catherine Tate (look her up if you're not British!) - am I bovvered?
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We Americans also know who Catherine Tate is, and not just because she's on our version of The Office now
Clicked as soon as you said "am I bovvered?".
Go for the Note,mate. You won't regret it
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apd said:
The Note is fabulous - better than the GNex I came from. Why? The screen principally - the Galaxy nexus screen just seemed so small compared!
I think the answer is this:
1. If you want the latest tech - go for the One X or the S3.
2. However, as it's so early in their life cycle you don't know what problems they will have (other than we already know the OneX has cr*p battery life) and we all know that no phone is perfect. Each phone I've had (and I've had a few) has had it's own unique issue.
3. If screen size is important, forget the other two and go for the Note. There is just simply no question of that (until Note II is announced in future!)
Maybe quad core will be a bit faster than dual core but I doubt it will make much of a difference in everyday use. In any event, I hate TW / Sense etc so always remove that bloatware and, hey presto, android flies on the Note (not that it was sluggish with TW).
And the lack of reliable ICS at the moment? In the words of Catherine Tate (look her up if you're not British!) - am I bovvered? There's such a clamour for it and, yes, it's a bit prettier and more logical in places but GB is absolutely fine for 99.98%.
Just my £0.02. Good luck with the decision.
Edit: Just seen that you're a brit - no need to look up Catherine Tate! More importantly, just realised you've got a DHD. Move on, you won't be disappointed. Sure, tech will move on over the next few monts, years etc but it always does.
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Thanks for that. I agree with your assessment, especially ICS which is definitely leaving me underwhelmed in terms of how "un-different" (new word!) it is to GB, especially after having used Honeycomb on my tablet for the past 6 months.
I've decided (with a feeling of I'm cheating on a loved one) to get a Note online, then I can return it under distance selling laws if I find it unbearable to live with. I suspect it wont be going back.
Genuinely, many thanks to all who have contributed to this thread. Your insight has been much appreciated.
Rob
I love the large screen and battery of the Note.
The S3 is more future proof, but only because of the processors. RAM is the same.
One thing in the s3's favor is the LED notification light! w00t! I have been missing this on EVERY device that wasn't a blackberry!
The s3 also has a large battery, but .. the Note takes the cake.
The One X is out of the picture. Why? Removable battery. Also, they pushed the device so fast to get it out on the market as one of the first quadcore devices that ... well, to me it doesn't seem that attractive. The s3 on the other hand looks mighty fine!
The Note is awesome for its screen and battery size (as well as the S-Pen).
It's really your call... Sometimes I wish my note were a tiny bit smaller, but I don't regret it when I'm actually using it! hehe.
I upgraded from DHD to galaxy note and can say it was the upgrade. Absolutely amazing display over DHD, much better battery life, faster, smoother, much better camera, etc. When I look back now to already my wife's DHD, it seems to be a nice small phone ... Was able to replace most of work on my laptop with note thanks to Swype ...
I have both on stock ROM, didn't find need to go for ICS on my note. Everything is working flawlessly, maybe will change my mind half year later when there will be more positive reaction from community ... my few cents .
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One thing that's driving me mad is the sluggishness of the stock Gingerbread ROM. Is the official ICS ROM still sluggish?
If so, would rooting the phone and deleting some of the bloat help? Also, is it possible to remove Touchwiz from the official ROM? I'm a bit scared to try any other ROMs in case I brick my phone.
I've had my note since november and I love it!! The huge screen is so much fun and great to surf the web!!! It doesn't feel bigger in my pocket than my previous phone (iPhone). Even though it has a huge screen the battery life is really good (especially with my actual rom Criskelo)
I haven't tried the other phones you posted but I am still trying to understand why anyone would need a quadcore in his phone today!! I installed spy cpu on my SGN and my CPU almost never rises to 1400MHz so what could anyone do with the extra power maybe 3D games since I don't play any so can't tell about the performances but I doubt it since the note still has one of the best processors out there! The games I play are: solitaire, temple run, fruit ninja,...
joyork said:
One thing that's driving me mad is the sluggishness of the stock Gingerbread ROM. Is the official ICS ROM still sluggish?
If so, would rooting the phone and deleting some of the bloat help? Also, is it possible to remove Touchwiz from the official ROM? I'm a bit scared to try any other ROMs in case I brick my phone.
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I don't really notice the sluggishness, everything seems smooth!! The rom I am using is lighter than the stock rom so there may be a difference! If you wan't to remove Touchwiz you'd better install a new rom on your phone would be easier than to modify the stock rom! In either case you need to root your phone! At first didn't want to do it but in the end I am happy and giving some good feedback about the rom I am using! And the bricking is pretty rare!!
To install a new rom if you literally follow instructions you can't run into problems!! A bit of research and in the end it just takes 10/15min to change rom!
joyork said:
One thing that's driving me mad is the sluggishness of the stock Gingerbread ROM. Is the official ICS ROM still sluggish?
If so, would rooting the phone and deleting some of the bloat help? Also, is it possible to remove Touchwiz from the official ROM? I'm a bit scared to try any other ROMs in case I brick my phone.
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That's an easy one. Root and install one of the stock rooted GB Roms. No need to 'remove' TW. Just install another launcher (let's not start the 'which launcher is best' argument here) and then set that as default. TW will fade into the background and won't be used and your Note will be faster.
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zkyevolved said:
The s3 also has a large battery, but .. the Note takes the cake.
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Only 2100mah I think? Not that big - nearly 20% smaller than the Note.
2) Samsung Galaxy Note
Wow, my head is about to explode after the last hour reading different threads on here. I have some experience rooting and using Odin if needed but not sure where to begin. All I want is a less bloated rom of lollipop and runs real smooth. The stock has way too much junk I don't want. Unfortunately I got excited for a min when I saw the dark note 5 rom port but I guess that's not for at&t version because of the locked bootloader. So I looked at a few roms on here and some seem decent enough but not sure which ones I want. Like I said, I want closest thing to stock Android as possible but with the Samsung s pen features also. Also it seems to me I have to downgrade to NC2 and then do the recovery and install the roms from there?
Alot of work coming from a guy who is used to nexus and oneplus one type phones. ..
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Wow, my head is about to explode after the last hour reading different threads on here. I have some experience rooting and using Odin if needed but not sure where to begin. All I want is a less bloated rom of lollipop and runs real smooth. The stock has way too much junk I don't want. Unfortunately I got excited for a min when I saw the dark note 5 rom port but I guess that's not for at&t version because of the locked bootloader. So I looked at a few roms on here and some seem decent enough but not sure which ones I want. Like I said, I want closest thing to stock Android as possible but with the Samsung s pen features also. Also it seems to me I have to downgrade to NC2 and then do the recovery and install the roms from there?
Alot of work coming from a guy who is used to nexus and oneplus one type phones. ..
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Yeah, it is a bit more complicated getting things done with this device than some others, unfortunately it seems that is the way a lot of device mfg's are headed.
Once you get the method down it isn't all that difficult to get a ROM installed.
There are 2 ROMS that work really well for me
I'm currently running, and have been for a few weeks now is a S6 Edge port from Carl1961 located HERE
The other is a Darkloard Note 4 port from sanguinevn located HERE
Not that the other few we have aren't good, it's just that these 2 give me best battery/functionality combo
Carl had just reminded me that we are currently faced with a problem that 5.1 and up is a problem for us since we have no bootloader, so we're a bit stuck on how far our fine dev's can take us.
kangi26 said:
Yeah, it is a bit more complicated getting things done with this device than some others, unfortunately it seems that is the way a lot of device mfg's are headed.
Once you get the method down it isn't all that difficult to get a ROM installed.
There are 2 ROMS that work really well for me
I'm currently running, and have been for a few weeks now is a S6 Edge port from Carl1961 located HERE
The other is a Darkloard Note 4 port from sanguinevn located HERE
Not that the other few we have aren't good, it's just that these 2 give me best battery/functionality combo
Carl had just reminded me that we are currently faced with a problem that 5.1 and up is a problem for us since we have no bootloader, so we're a bit stuck on how far our fine dev's can take us.
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Thanks for the reply. How do I root the 5.0 update? Is there a walk thru guide anywhere? I can't find one.
Also is there a big performance difference between this and stock? I disabled some of the stock apps but in still curious about the s6 rom you talked about
lol I know I am asking a lot but hoping y'all can help
I had the OPO (One Plus One) and the Op2 is not to my liking because my OPO filled up and ran out of storage. I have over 500 apps (don't ask lol) and use a lot of them.
That being said my OPO finally died. After almost 2 years I accidentally lost it in a buggy and the gears got the case and phone quite well unusable. I used to LOVE Samsung because of the external SD and easy ROM flashing with included root (superuser) in the rom. The S6 is nice but here we go again no external SD. The Note 5 is nice, but again no External SD.,
Sooooo.... Onto the Note 4. Quad core because t-mobile does not have the octa-core version for sale. Which is cool in many benchmarks I see ran for it the Snapdragon outperforms the Exyos. Also 4gb memory vs 3gb is not that much to write home about I won't miss too much. PLUS the Note 5 has no IR emitter for remote use so yea. I liked that feature. NOTE 4 IT IS.
The more I read up on it though the more I find issues and I want to be sure I can resolve them NOW vs later. Did many searches here so please do not tell me to search. Been there done that. I am overwhelmed and actually pretty happy that there is so much good development for the phone. But I find myself hours and hours of reading and still on the sideline wondering what I want.
Thus I figured I would ask you all, who have been there done that and find out what the differences are in what I want and what would fit me best. NOTE THIS IS A NOT WHATS BETTER THAN OTHER THREAD - JUST WANT SOME FACTS AND IDEAS WHAT WOULD SUIT ME BEST IN CHOOSING A CUSTOM ROM WITH ROOT ACCESS BUILT IN HOPEFULLY AND A KERNEL TO GO WITH THAT ROM.
I will be adding a zerolemon extended battery. I know after reading I need a Rom and/or kernel that supports this to show the right battery percentage. This has to be factored in.
Here's some other stuff I would like (not need, just a wish list) that may help you find me a nice rom and kernel combo. REMEMBER I AM JUST ASKING WHAT YOU THINK WOULD WORK FOR WHAT I NEED/WANT AND WHY. Thanks in advance for the help.
I would LIKE a nice black background texting and phone and contact look. In my Galaxy S4 I had a few years back one rom I installed was black with neon phone pad keys and a neon look to the contacts and even the texting was black with yellow and blue and red and green text bubbles - was so cool. I HATE white backgrounds or light color backgrounds, but alas if there is nothing avail it is what it is. I do use swiftkey and it has some cool dark keyboards but I mean the actual texting app and phone screen backgrounds.
As stated need a rom/kernel that has extended battery support
Do NOT need all the fancy CPU tweaks. Its cool to overclock and such but not needed. Either way - with or without overclocking is cool. I have rom toolbox pro so I can do most anything in there anyways.
Would LOVE extended volume controls and extended power menu so I have screenshot and boot into recovery and such on the power menu - but hey isn't that what xposed framework is for and I just install an app there that does it. lol Been there done that I LOVE xposed - but if a rom has this built in why not get it and save me a step
Speaking of xposed do any roms have xposed pre-installed? I know, asking for a lot here but if some do please top of the list. Otherwise will install xposed myself That's why I am doing a custom recovery. DO YOU suggest CWM or TWRP or?
NEED TO KNOW HOW ROM WORKS. Some I see are based on 5.1 lollipop some on older 4.4. I am all for upgrading to 5.1 (woohoo) my OPO was on 5.1 and loved it. I am thinking its easy to keep phone NO updates brand new out of box keep the 4.4 stock and put my own recovery and I can use a custom rom to jump to 5.1 so that way there is NO Samsung or t-mobile updates to lock anything. I remember in my Galaxy s4 my 1st one I made the MISTAKE of upgrading the stock o/s then my custom recovery showed the yellow 1 in the corner after I added my custom rom. After that did the rom 1st NO system updates - I figure its best to do the same here with Note 4 right? or??? PLUS I read the note 4 gets kinda buggy on 5.1 so hoping some awesome developers have fixed this and maybe some newer roms or older roms now updated have fixed this and the note 4 does 5.1 as smooth as 4.4 lol
Any other info? I am not locked on the Zerolemon - any ideas there too would help - but amazon has it for $55 now thats cheap for zerolemon and it has a case like otterbox with the belt clip so yayyyy Ultimately I would LOVE a waterproof case with extended battery but been searching a while for that no luck lol.
Thanks again people. I just got tired of searching all the roms and the reading hundreds of posts - some thousands of posts for extended battery support, then there's 100 ideas on best kernel to match and I find myself 20 pages from the last thread trying to see the most recent posts from past month or 2 seeing what is best now vs what was best when the rom 1st came out and comparing which is really best and its just too UGH! I am a technical guy and will be here for weeks checking everything out. I am finally just asking for your advice and what you think is best for what I want and narrow down my search a lil to keep me from being here so long doing it on my own.
MAINLY I AM JUST ASKING AFTER TRYING SEVERAL ROM AND KERNEL COMBINATIONS WHICH DO YOU FEEL ARE BEST SUITED FOR MY NEEDS AND WHAT DO YOU RECOMMEND AND WHY - I DON'T WANT THIS IS BETTER THAN THIS JUST RECOMMENDATIONS ON GOOD ROMS WITH A KERNEL FOR THAT ROM OR MAYBE STAY STOCK KERNEL IDK.... U TELL ME WHAT YOU ALL FOUND THAT WORKS GOOD. THAT FIT THE ABOVE CRITERIA AND I WILL LOOK AT ALL AND CHOOSE WHAT I WANT.
you posted a question in the development section. Bruhh
Just read the rom ops
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you posted a question in development thread. Bruhh
Just read the rom ops
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Yes posted the Q here as my Q is about development (roms and kernels) lol
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Yes posted the Q here as my Q is about development (roms and kernels) lol
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Lmao. Trust me it's in the wrong place. Development section is for the posting of Roms and kernels. Not questions.
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What you want is either note 4 general section or Q and a section
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Lmao. Trust me it's in the wrong place. Development section is for the posting of Roms and kernels. Not questions.
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What you want is either note 4 general section or Q and a section
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ok ur right I guess lol- they can delete this or keep it - I will repost in another area - the right area
You have an addiction, and the fact that note 4 fulfils and surpases what you are looking for. Want help you 6 months down the road when you discover all the red dots all over ur body and start itching for another phonr. So no matter what section you write this on unless it's from rehab, you will not be satisfied with any answers. Take care and good luck!
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lol I know I am asking a lot but hoping y'all can help
I had the OPO (One Plus One) and the Op2 is not to my liking because my OPO filled up and ran out of storage. I have over 500 apps (don't ask lol) and use a lot of them.
That being said my OPO finally died. After almost 2 years I accidentally lost it in a buggy and the gears got the case and phone quite well unusable. I used to LOVE Samsung because of the external SD and easy ROM flashing with included root (superuser) in the rom. The S6 is nice but here we go again no external SD. The Note 5 is nice, but again no External SD.,
Sooooo.... Onto the Note 4. Quad core because t-mobile does not have the octa-core version for sale. Which is cool in many benchmarks I see ran for it the Snapdragon outperforms the Exyos. Also 4gb memory vs 3gb is not that much to write home about I won't miss too much. PLUS the Note 5 has no IR emitter for remote use so yea. I liked that feature. NOTE 4 IT IS.
The more I read up on it though the more I find issues and I want to be sure I can resolve them NOW vs later. Did many searches here so please do not tell me to search. Been there done that. I am overwhelmed and actually pretty happy that there is so much good development for the phone. But I find myself hours and hours of reading and still on the sideline wondering what I want.
Thus I figured I would ask you all, who have been there done that and find out what the differences are in what I want and what would fit me best. NOTE THIS IS A NOT WHATS BETTER THAN OTHER THREAD - JUST WANT SOME FACTS AND IDEAS WHAT WOULD SUIT ME BEST IN CHOOSING A CUSTOM ROM WITH ROOT ACCESS BUILT IN HOPEFULLY AND A KERNEL TO GO WITH THAT ROM.
I will be adding a zerolemon extended battery. I know after reading I need a Rom and/or kernel that supports this to show the right battery percentage. This has to be factored in.
Here's some other stuff I would like (not need, just a wish list) that may help you find me a nice rom and kernel combo. REMEMBER I AM JUST ASKING WHAT YOU THINK WOULD WORK FOR WHAT I NEED/WANT AND WHY. Thanks in advance for the help.
I would LIKE a nice black background texting and phone and contact look. In my Galaxy S4 I had a few years back one rom I installed was black with neon phone pad keys and a neon look to the contacts and even the texting was black with yellow and blue and red and green text bubbles - was so cool. I HATE white backgrounds or light color backgrounds, but alas if there is nothing avail it is what it is. I do use swiftkey and it has some cool dark keyboards but I mean the actual texting app and phone screen backgrounds.
As stated need a rom/kernel that has extended battery support
Do NOT need all the fancy CPU tweaks. Its cool to overclock and such but not needed. Either way - with or without overclocking is cool. I have rom toolbox pro so I can do most anything in there anyways.
Would LOVE extended volume controls and extended power menu so I have screenshot and boot into recovery and such on the power menu - but hey isn't that what xposed framework is for and I just install an app there that does it. lol Been there done that I LOVE xposed - but if a rom has this built in why not get it and save me a step
Speaking of xposed do any roms have xposed pre-installed? I know, asking for a lot here but if some do please top of the list. Otherwise will install xposed myself That's why I am doing a custom recovery. DO YOU suggest CWM or TWRP or?
NEED TO KNOW HOW ROM WORKS. Some I see are based on 5.1 lollipop some on older 4.4. I am all for upgrading to 5.1 (woohoo) my OPO was on 5.1 and loved it. I am thinking its easy to keep phone NO updates brand new out of box keep the 4.4 stock and put my own recovery and I can use a custom rom to jump to 5.1 so that way there is NO Samsung or t-mobile updates to lock anything. I remember in my Galaxy s4 my 1st one I made the MISTAKE of upgrading the stock o/s then my custom recovery showed the yellow 1 in the corner after I added my custom rom. After that did the rom 1st NO system updates - I figure its best to do the same here with Note 4 right? or??? PLUS I read the note 4 gets kinda buggy on 5.1 so hoping some awesome developers have fixed this and maybe some newer roms or older roms now updated have fixed this and the note 4 does 5.1 as smooth as 4.4 lol
Any other info? I am not locked on the Zerolemon - any ideas there too would help - but amazon has it for $55 now thats cheap for zerolemon and it has a case like otterbox with the belt clip so yayyyy Ultimately I would LOVE a waterproof case with extended battery but been searching a while for that no luck lol.
Thanks again people. I just got tired of searching all the roms and the reading hundreds of posts - some thousands of posts for extended battery support, then there's 100 ideas on best kernel to match and I find myself 20 pages from the last thread trying to see the most recent posts from past month or 2 seeing what is best now vs what was best when the rom 1st came out and comparing which is really best and its just too UGH! I am a technical guy and will be here for weeks checking everything out. I am finally just asking for your advice and what you think is best for what I want and narrow down my search a lil to keep me from being here so long doing it on my own.
MAINLY I AM JUST ASKING AFTER TRYING SEVERAL ROM AND KERNEL COMBINATIONS WHICH DO YOU FEEL ARE BEST SUITED FOR MY NEEDS AND WHAT DO YOU RECOMMEND AND WHY - I DON'T WANT THIS IS BETTER THAN THIS JUST RECOMMENDATIONS ON GOOD ROMS WITH A KERNEL FOR THAT ROM OR MAYBE STAY STOCK KERNEL IDK.... U TELL ME WHAT YOU ALL FOUND THAT WORKS GOOD. THAT FIT THE ABOVE CRITERIA AND I WILL LOOK AT ALL AND CHOOSE WHAT I WANT.
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If you post it in Q&A section, you'll get a lots of good reply & suggestions. About your question:
ROMs:
-TEKXodus N4 (most popular here, you have to flash either Emotion & Beast Mode kernel with it)
-N5 Express
-Maximum OvrDriVE
-ABSTRK Rom
-CM Remix
Kernel option:
-Emotion
-Beast Mode
Please remove the post from here, it looks bad in development section.
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If you post it in Q&A section, you'll get a lots of good reply & suggestions. About your question:
ROMs:
-TEKXodus N4 (most popular here, you have to flash either Emotion & Beast Mode kernel with it)
-N5 Express
-Maximum OvrDriVE
-ABSTRK Rom
-CM Remix
Kernel option:
-Emotion
-Beast Mode
Please remove the post from here, it looks bad in development section.
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It does not give me an option to delete my post or I would have. Waiting on a mod to do it
Plus I have this exact same question posted in Q&A - exact copy and no replies at all yet. So I was hoping posting in the correct area would work but alas has not
Thanks for the help. As long as those all do what I mentioned above I will check them all out and see the differences in each outside of what I want and choose what I feel is best! I am thinking, MAYBE if I can find a good Themer for root, I can just upgrade to stock 5.1.1 then root then theme my OS to a dark theme for dialer and sms and such.
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You have an addiction, and the fact that note 4 fulfils and surpases what you are looking for. Want help you 6 months down the road when you discover all the red dots all over ur body and start itching for another phonr. So no matter what section you write this on unless it's from rehab, you will not be satisfied with any answers. Take care and good luck!
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My addiction is finding the perfect phone for what I use them for. I use them for holding my 500+ apps, loads of picture taking, video and movies and just everyday use
If you have not read my original post, The NOTE 5 is out. Sleeker, better body and newer. The Note 4 has a newer, better phone already - or so some think. T-Mobile ONLY has the 32gb. And an unlocked international 64gb or 128gb costs double that of note 4 and still has no SD card slot. On the other hand the Note 4 has 128GB SD and 32 GB Internal for 160 total. More than ANY note 5 will ever have.
Then for the benchmarks, after seeing several antutu and other programs comparing between the 2 phones, I find video and such is way higher on note 4. Sure Note 5 excels in memory but in processor is a lil less. Turns out Snapdragon's 4 core in Note 4 (which is what is in T-Mobile Version) slightly outperforms octa core Samsung Processor in International version. And think of it this way - Octa core breaks tasks up 2 ways 4 cores each. Quad core breaks tasks up into 4 ways single core each. Meaning better battery life as I am using only 1 core at a time for most stuff vs the minimum used ion octa core is 4 cores at once.
I LOVED My OPO - One Plus One - but the lack of an external SD even with all my cloud storage proved a deal breaker and its sad I loved that they were half the price as samsung and just as good The note 4 has SD card, has zerolemon - I will love it for years to come no worries
Depends on what you really want, but for me I like FireKat rom (4.4.4). With LoBoToMy black theme. I also use Xposed modules which work great on 4.4.4. 7 hours SOT is pretty easy on stock battery and one user has hit almost 10 hours (he also posted his method to achieve this and it is not by turning everything off). It's based on TouchWiz so you keep the great camera and spen functionality.
Note that if you are on 5.1.1 DOK2, you cannot downgrade and your options are more limited.
Also, in general, use twrp and cf-autoroot. And just install Xposed yourself.
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Cm 13 Remix if you wants AOSP, it's got a ton of stuff added on top which is why it's "remix". It is probably closet to what would be on a OPO.
TEKHD it you like custom development. His ROM is a Frankenstein version of Touchwiz. Looks beautiful runs great. Great sound enhancing mods.
Also you can try stock systemless rooted, if you just want to get used to TouchWiz.
Really all of the ROMs that have active development right now a good. But the 3 above would be a good place to look first just to narrow down you search.
I am using official CM12. It's not the latest and greatest, but I find CM12 to be nexus stable. I do miss having marshmallow but the CM13 remix rom I had difficulty with getting started.