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Droid X Security Measures

As outlined by Droid dev Steven Bird: http://stevenbird.info/2010/07/10/the-droidx-security-and-discovery/
I know absolutely nothing about Android development, but here's hoping that another dev here can make sense of it.

I love the confidence.

Even worse news: http://www.mydroidworld.com/forums/...-locked-down-let-me-tell-you-what-i-know.html

Mikerrrrrrrr said:
Even worse news: http://www.mydroidworld.com/forums/...-locked-down-let-me-tell-you-what-i-know.html
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An "efuse" hardware chip? Wow Motorola!

I like the screen of the droid x, I like the size, but there is no way I could in good conscience buy this phone. Motorola has just slapped the dev community in the face.

Even Iphone doesn't have this BS , i guess Motorola one upped apple by kicking customers twice in the balls.

couldn't they run into some legal issues with this efuse method?

what about women?
ghost77 said:
Even Iphone doesn't have this BS , i guess Motorola one upped apple by kicking customers twice in the balls.
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What we need to do is setup a site called "WeWant2RootDroidX.com" and make all tech blogs in the world link to it.
Well, just an idea.

zedomax said:
What we need to do is setup a site called "WeWant2RootDroidX.com" and make all tech blogs in the world link to it.
Well, just an idea.
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i like it. Lets really get people to notice that Motorola is really screwing with our "Open Source" phones

zedomax said:
What we need to do is setup a site called "WeWant2RootDroidX.com" and make all tech blogs in the world link to it.
Well, just an idea.
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Done deal. Give DNS a few hours to propagate and it's live!

The Droid X is already rooted though. The bootloader is what everyone is concerned about.

E30kid said:
The Droid X is already rooted though. The bootloader is what everyone is concerned about.
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Link to news of root?

http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2010...-the-droid-x-may-not-lead-to-a-bricked-phone/
Apparently the original Droid has the same "eFuse". I think we need to reserve judgement until we find out if Moto is utilizing it or not. Just because it's there doesn't mean it's in use.

I was about to say the same thing, this chip is nothing new and doesn't stop you from rooting, get real, they even advertised the ability to root this phone in their ads

cyberhedz said:
I was about to say the same thing, this chip is nothing new and doesn't stop you from rooting, get real, they even advertised the ability to root this phone in their ads
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I don't know if I've seen an ad talking about root, but...
I talked to a device tester today and apparently there is something VERY different about the Droid X bootloader. They had VERY specific instructions from Moto that if the bootloader (MBM) didn't match exactly what they required to send the phone back to have the MBM updated. If it wasn't it would corrupt the phone.
Not sure if this is the same as the "eFuse", but should be interesting to see what happens the first time someone tries to mess with the bootloader.

Sorry for any misunderstanding. I dont have anything that works.

LegionTHEFecalExcretion said:
I have an X and rooting files(I wont say what they are) ready to go, but you know what? Im not gonna be the first person to try this. Im sure someone out there will take the leap off of the proverbial cliff for us. Lets just hope moto didnt cut that persons parachute strings!
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Send them, I will help, i will be in irc, #DroidXRoot

Wow
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Done deal. Give DNS a few hours to propagate and it's live!
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Wow, that was quick!

i hear a lawsuit coming

Legion, Where are you?

does root void warranty in Wp8

does rooting in windows void warranty ?

Rooting violates warranty in any and every phone...

That aside: there currently is no way of rooting a WP8 device.

StevieBallz said:
That aside: there currently is no way of rooting a WP8 device.
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Yea, I was going to say the same thing. You can't void you warranty if you cant root your device.....YET..

Here's a silly question, is someone currently working on a root or is all hope given up? Just asking.

Most people working on WP have tended to stay rather quiet until there was something concrete to anounce. But given that they deemed most of the original Lumias unhackable unless they came from the factory with an unlocked Bootloader (as some did due to an error in manufacturing) it is entirely possible they are not working on trying to break Secure Boot.
But in the end: we simply don't know.

No.
No one is working on anything. Fact is, no one is interested.
You pick your poison, work on Lumia or work on a HTC device, but fact is there aren't enough modders/developers with devices to support any effort if there is any to begin with. Each device would require a different method , and the fact this secure boot is so different only adds to the dilemma.

vetvito said:
You pick your poison, work on Lumia or work on a HTC device, but fact is there aren't enough modders/developers with devices to support any effort if there is any to begin with. Each device would require a different method , and the fact this secure boot is so different only adds to the dilemma.
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Valid points, though I wonder if heathcliffs Samsung gen2 unlock can be used or modified to work, I think it uses some Microsoft exploit in conjunction with the network setup apps
vetvito said:
No.
No one is working on anything. Fact is, no one is interested.
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Ignore this constant pessimism from this user, his a bit like a broken record

dazza9075 said:
Valid points, though I wonder if heathcliffs Samsung gen2 unlock can be used or modified to work, I think it uses some Microsoft exploit in conjunction with the network setup apps
Ignore this constant pessimism from this user, his a bit like a broken record
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Sorry , but you quoted me twice. Keep on dreaming.

vetvito said:
Sorry , but you quoted me twice. Keep on dreaming.
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yes I did, because you made a good point but ruined it by passing your unwanted opinion along with it we all can dream, some dreams turn in to reality, those who do not dream end up sounding like a defeatist broken record with nothing better to do than moan
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dazza9075 said:
yes I did, because you made a good point but ruined it by passing your unwanted opinion along with it we all can dream, some dreams turn in to reality, those who do not dream end up sounding like a defeatist broken record with nothing better to do than moan
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Cute story but I'm a realist. There is no interest in these phones.
New phones will come out and these will be forgotten.

vetvito said:
Cute story but I'm a realist. There is no interest in these phones.
New phones will come out and these will be forgotten.
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Stating the obvious aren't we. There is interest in the phones otherwise we wouldn't be here, even your good dear self has an interest tho I've yet to work out what it is other than belittling wp and its users.
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dazza9075 said:
Stating the obvious aren't we. There is interest in the phones otherwise we wouldn't be here, even your good dear self has an interest tho I've yet to work out what it is other than belittling wp and its users.
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.......hmm ok? I'm a WP user.
Look at the developing forums, look at every single developing forum you can find on the web. There is nothing happening.

vetvito said:
.......hmm ok? I'm a WP user.
Look at the developing forums, look at every single developing forum you can find on the web. There is nothing happening.
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Well rather than wait for someone else to do it all why don't you try and contribute rather than just moan all the time, your wee pic is very appropriate!
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Stating a fact is moaning now? Ok....

Stating a fact is moaning now? Ok....
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Its not a fact, its an opinion, your stating an absolute when its not, what is a fact is that there doesn't appear to be much going on with WP
And even if it was a fact its still moaning? yes, knowing something negative and constantly going on about it is moaning, being proactive would be more useful and would actually contribute something meaningful
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dazza9075 said:
Its not a fact, its an opinion, your stating an absolute when its not, what is a fact is that there doesn't appear to be much going on with WP
And even if it was a fact its still moaning? yes, knowing something negative and constantly going on about it is moaning, being proactive would be more useful and would actually contribute something meaningful
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Lol
Moaning is what you are doing about my post.
No one is constantly going about anything except...you.
I'll be proactive , and let you post another post about what someone else is doing because I don't have the same viewpoint as you.
Cheers.

Fact matter is there is now begin to have a interest in WP. But you still look at there user base normal every day people I class WP like iphone yea they jailed break the phone but still most of the users would not have a clue to do that. Unlike android where it is open source and you have developer coming from every direction so it's easy to creak device after another. I love my 8x it's nice not to have that option to flash or unlock bootloader is a phone in the end of the day and that is what I have been looking for all this time
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Stock ROM+HOW-TOs+Root+Mods[All-In-One]

This thread will be updated once Note4 is available. This thread will contain all guides and mods pertaining to Note4. Plus,it will have Stock ROMs and will have the root guide.

Looking forward to buying the Note 4 and use this thread as well

mzakirh said:
Looking forward to buying the Note 4 and use this thread as well
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Me too

subscribe to this :good:

Looking forward to be using this forum.
very sad to see so many people talking s**t about the note 4.
It might not be a huge difference from note 3 but is definitely a big upgrade from my note 2.
I think everyone expect to have extreme changes in the devices every year and that is not possible anymore.
I think now the upgrade should be every 2 years.
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@mannyvinny good to see you in this section! Let's start working on this device an few weeks.
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Pafcholini said:
@mannyvinny good to see you in this section! Let's start working on this device an few weeks.
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How about I join too
Well obviously some time till I get the device, but till then I can try and help you guys with some things
And @mannyvinny nice thought of having everything in one place.
I'll try to contribute some mods in themes and apps section after the system dump is out and if I get some time

KNIGHT97 said:
How about I join too
Well obviously some time till I get the device, but till then I can try and help you guys with some things
And @mannyvinny nice thought of having everything in one place.
I'll try to contribute some mods in themes and apps section after the system dump is out and if I get some time
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Everyone is welcome. Will be buying Note4 ASAP once it get launched.

mannyvinny said:
Everyone is welcome. Will be buying Note4 ASAP once it get launched.
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Though I'm gonna be a bit late due to my last year if school, count me in for any help or other things you find me worthy of
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I'd love the phone, but I'd miss having an unlocked bootloader.

LegoFarmer said:
I'd love the phone, but I'd miss having an unlocked bootloader.
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Someone told me that if you get the TMO version it won't have a locked bootloader, and can be usedon ATT. I'm not sure if this is true, but considering going that route.

ewingr said:
Someone told me that if you get the TMO version it won't have a locked bootloader, and can be usedon ATT. I'm not sure if this is true, but considering going that route.
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Verizon :/ I really am getting tired of it from them tbh. I buy the phone, why should they lock the bootloader. (Yes, I know there are reasons, but still) they are not leasing the phone to me, You buy the device and use it on their network.I am paying for a service. That's just how I look at it.

LegoFarmer said:
Verizon :/ I really am getting tired of it from them tbh. I buy the phone, why should they lock the bootloader. (Yes, I know there are reasons, but still) they are not leasing the phone to me, You buy the device and use it on their network.I am paying for a service. That's just how I look at it.
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I sure understand that thought. But I also understand the carriers not wanting to warranty phones that we hose trying to mess with them.
It's probably too much effort to position themselves to offer an unlock code for the bootloader, which would cost 'loss of warranty'. If they don't have to warranty them, then why should they care?

ewingr said:
I sure understand that thought. But I also understand the carriers not wanting to warranty phones that we hose trying to mess with them.
It's probably too much effort to position themselves to offer an unlock code for the bootloader, which would cost 'loss of warranty'. If they don't have to warranty them, then why should they care?
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probably because so many people lie when they call for warranty service, saying they dont know why their phone suddenly "stopped" working..
Now, what could be done, is to sell an unlocked phone/boot loader, NO WARRANTY AT ALL, and see how many folks buy that model...
Not many I bet..

guys
noob question
how straightforward to root flash samsung notes please?

I hope Skipsoft Android toolkit will be updated and work with note 4 ^^

Did anyone try towelroot yet?
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RiNo808 said:
Did anyone try towelroot yet?
Sent from my Note3 Rocking DynamicKat or my G3
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The vulnerability of towelroot was patched on all kernels deployed after 6th June.
It has very less chances of working.
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daproject said:
Looking forward to be using this forum.
very sad to see so many people talking s**t about the note 4.
It might not be a huge difference from note 3 but is definitely a big upgrade from my note 2.
I think everyone expect to have extreme changes in the devices every year and that is not possible anymore.
I think now the upgrade should be every 2 years.
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im upgrading from my note 1

--Off Topic Thread--

I'm posting this for all Note 4 Off Topic talk. We had one in the Note2 forums so thought it was a good idea for one here!!!
If the Mods don't want it they can kindly remove it...
I'll start with I can't wait for me to get my hands on this new device. Been waiting 2 years for this phone...

I want to get the international version 64bit to use on tmobile USA.. but it dont have 4GB still.. all good as long it supports the 64bit android L.. them lines on the front of the screen looks like a paper note lines lol..
I might get white again as I have a white note 3.. I wish the black one was more black with no lines like the GS5

Yeah I'd like a 64bit myself but I'm in the US.... Gotta wait to see what's actually released to the public ya know. Time will tell all ya know..

Yeah.. but first I must play with one at a tmobile store.. hope I dont walk out with it hahaha

markysd said:
Yeah.. but first I must play with one at a tmobile store.. hope I dont walk out with it hahaha
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LOL : )
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Is it October yet. Haha

eksoccer99 said:
Is it October yet. Haha
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Yeah I know right.. waiting patiently[emoji52]! ONLY 26 more days of torture lol...
Hopefully we'll see it early October??
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Wait... There actually is a 64-Bit version? Can someone post a link up please?

After a long time I found a worthy upgrade between all the crap OEMs were throwing at the consumers. Definitely getting this device for myself.
But have to wait till march Last year of my school and need to study hard, so not getting it so soon, but definitely getting one as soon as my exams finish.
Who knows I will by myself one while coming back from exam center after the last exam, lol

Blackfyre said:
Wait... There actually is a 64-Bit version? Can someone post a link up please?
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Don't know if it's going to be a 64
bit, but only time will tell. I did read that they're coming out with more phones leaning towards the alpha design...
KNIGHT97 said:
After a long time I found a worthy upgrade between all the crap OEMs were throwing at the consumers. Definitely getting this device for myself.
But have to wait till march Last year of my school and need to study hard, so not getting it so soon, but definitely getting one as soon as my exams finish.
Who knows I will by myself one while coming back from exam center after the last exam, lol
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@KNIGHT97
I can agree finally something I really want to have. But it's still missing a few things that should have been added.
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Bajanman said:
@KNIGHT97
I can agree finally something I really want to have. But it's still missing a few things that should have been added.
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Can agree on missing things, but then, which OEM even thinks of unique ideas with the stylus and big screens, except for stretching the UI.
At least it can be a worthy upgrade from our trusty note 2
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KNIGHT97 said:
Can agree on missing things, but then, which OEM even thinks of unique ideas with the stylus and big screens, except for stretching the UI.
At least it can be a worthy upgrade from our trusty note 2
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So so true for an worthy upgrade from the Note2:good::good::good:

I just want to say I've read through a lot of the post in this general section. And all I can say is wow at some of the comments in here...
It amazes me to how people think something should be, and why it isn't this way...
If you don't like something why are you here in the first place, just to complain. I see nothing but a bunch of complaining in this note 4 threads...
Why this, why that, how come thru didn't do it like this??...
To much speculating and assuming and complaining here imho!
Maybe wait until the device reach store shelves, then go use it, see if you like it, then purchase it if you do... done
Rant over now...
Bajan out...[emoji109]
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Bajanman said:
I just want to say I've read through a lot of the post in this general section. And all I can say is wow at some of the comments in here...
It amazes me to how people think something should be, and why it isn't this way...
If you don't like something why are you here in the first place, just to complain. I see nothing but a bunch of complaining in this note 4 threads...
Why this, why that, how come thru didn't do it like this??...
To much speculating and assuming and complaining here imho!
Maybe wait until the device reach store shelves, then go use it, see if you like it, then purchase it if you do... done
Rant over now...
Bajan out...[emoji109]
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I can't agree more.
Most of the people are like, Exynos is crap or useless, and when asked a question about why, they don't have any answer except for saying that overheats, seriously? My Exynos note 2 never went over 45°C even after 3 hours of asphalt 8. How is their snapdragon? 0°C much?
There is a special thread dedicated to being disappointed by note 4, Because some people just want to act smart and have more threads to their name, like it gonna give them some of the recognized status without giving anything to the community.
I just want to really give a bad mouth to some of the people making those useless thread, but then, courtesy and kindness to everyone, can't really do much about it.
Some of the people aren't even using a Samsung device and come to the forums to just abuse that device.
Well, to all the haters saying bloated Touchwiz, how is your battery backup? Enjoying 3-4 hours SoT with less than a day's usage?
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Bajanman said:
Yeah I'd like a 64bit myself but I'm in the US.... Gotta wait to see what's actually released to the public ya know. Time will tell all ya know..
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The site anandtech confirm that the Exynos 5433 is of fact the first bark A57 / A53 SoC to the market. We see one 4x of the bark A57, configuration of the CPU 4x bark A53 Big.little
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KNIGHT97 said:
After a long time I found a worthy upgrade between all the crap OEMs were throwing at the consumers. Definitely getting this device for myself.
But have to wait till march Last year of my school and need to study hard, so not getting it so soon, but definitely getting one as soon as my exams finish.
Who knows I will by myself one while coming back from exam center after the last exam, lol
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to say to me that version of the note 4 should come to the Argentine one if sera the version exynos or the snapdragon 805? Thank you

Bajanman said:
I just want to say I've read through a lot of the post in this general section. And all I can say is wow at some of the comments in here...
It amazes me to how people think something should be, and why it isn't this way...
If you don't like something why are you here in the first place, just to complain. I see nothing but a bunch of complaining in this note 4 threads...
Why this, why that, how come thru didn't do it like this??...
To much speculating and assuming and complaining here imho!
Maybe wait until the device reach store shelves, then go use it, see if you like it, then purchase it if you do... done
Rant over now...
Bajan out...[emoji109]
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@Bajanman kicking arse and taking names!
wonder if the mods in here will let this thread get as "bizarre" as the one in the note 2 forum..
Guess we'll have to invite @Judge Joseph Dredd in here to referee!

Bajanman said:
I just want to say I've read through a lot of the post in this general section. And all I can say is wow at some of the comments in here...
It amazes me to how people think something should be, and why it isn't this way...
If you don't like something why are you here in the first place, just to complain. I see nothing but a bunch of complaining in this note 4 threads...
Why this, why that, how come thru didn't do it like this??...
To much speculating and assuming and complaining here imho!
Maybe wait until the device reach store shelves, then go use it, see if you like it, then purchase it if you do... done
Rant over now...
Bajan out...[emoji109]
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Yes Sir, Already making my rounds to the new threads....
wase4711 said:
@Bajanman kicking arse and taking names!
wonder if the mods in here will let this thread get as "bizarre" as the one in the note 2 forum..
Guess we'll have to invite @Judge Joseph Dredd in here to referee!
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Why thank you for the invite, and lets hope there is no need to do any refereeing. But you know me, I will and am around.
btw did you know within your options you can list your devices vice putting them in your signature. Look at mine, under mine Location...

Can't wait for it! I definitely need an upgrade

maksharma231 said:
Can't wait for it! I definitely need an upgrade
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Oh you and me both my friend...
Just not sure where I'm getting mine from!! Dint think I want the att version unless they're going to release a unlocked version! Guess I'll be stuck with the Tmo with an att SIM lol...[emoji14][emoji14]
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Bajanman said:
Oh you and me both my friend...
Just not sure where I'm getting mine from!! Dint think I want the att version unless they're going to release a unlocked version! Guess I'll be stuck with the Tmo with an att SIM lol...[emoji14][emoji14]
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Vzw/AT&T - locked bootloaders.
Keep in mind while buying the note 4
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android 5.1??

When can we expect it and what can we expect from it? Thoughts?

You're asking us to guess or are you wanting facts?

rootSU said:
You're asking us to guess or are you wanting facts?
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Facts are overrated here, go read through one of the Verizon threads for proof

Just curious when it will hit the nexus 6 and what it may fix or included in the update?

Jduncan312 said:
Just curious when it will hit the nexus 6 and what it may fix or included in the update?
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It's not released for anything yet, only Google knows

Jduncan312 said:
Just curious when it will hit the nexus 6 and what it may fix or included in the update?
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I understand that but I still don't know if you want guesses of facts. You'll not be getting facts because we're not Google. Guesses aren't useful

Aren't the android one devices in the Philippines shipped running 5.1? Or are all the articles and pictures wrong.. We should see it by the end of Q1 no?

k.s.deviate said:
Aren't the android one devices in the Philippines shipped running 5.1? Or are all the articles and pictures wrong.. We should see it by the end of Q1 no?
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Shipped with? Probably. Available to the public is another thing. It will push to AOSP first then updates to nexus devices will be next, but we have no time scales.

rootSU said:
Shipped with? Probably. Available to the public is another thing. It will push to AOSP first then updates to nexus devices will be next, but we have no time scales.
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That's a fair answer. Guess we will find out soon enough.

k.s.deviate said:
That's a fair answer. Guess we will find out soon enough.
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Yeah its a waiting game. From my experience, whenever we hear dates, they're almost always not met anyway. I never believe anything until I see tags updates on AOSP or someone actually receiving an OTA.

k.s.deviate said:
Aren't the android one devices in the Philippines shipped running 5.1? Or are all the articles and pictures wrong.. We should see it by the end of Q1 no?
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They will be once available, they aren't out yet AFAIK
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