[Q] N920C vs N920i - Galaxy Note5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Anyone managed to understand what is the difference between these two unlocked models?

benyben123 said:
Anyone managed to understand what is the difference between these two unlocked models?
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*2.5G (EDGE, GSM/GPRS ) MHz:850, 900, 1800, 1900 3.5G (HSPA+, UMTS/WCDMA ) MHz:850, 900, 1900, 2100 4G (LTE ) Bands:1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 17, 18, 19, 26, 28, 40 = I variant
*2.5G (EDGE, GSM/GPRS ) MHz:850, 900, 1800, 1900 3.5G (HSPA+, UMTS/WCDMA ) MHz:850, 900, 1900, 2100 4G (LTE ) Bands:1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 17, 18, 19, 20, 26 = C variant

megatooth said:
*2.5G (EDGE, GSM/GPRS ) MHz:850, 900, 1800, 1900 3.5G (HSPA+, UMTS/WCDMA ) MHz:850, 900, 1900, 2100 4G (LTE ) Bands:1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 17, 18, 19, 26, 28, 40 = I variant
*2.5G (EDGE, GSM/GPRS ) MHz:850, 900, 1800, 1900 3.5G (HSPA+, UMTS/WCDMA ) MHz:850, 900, 1900, 2100 4G (LTE ) Bands:1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 17, 18, 19, 20, 26 = C variant
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Very small different then in terms of bands.
THANK YOU!!!
It seems I can purchase either then
Hmm.... although now I see there's a N920 model as well. Probably different LTE bands as well.....

Yes, first the N920C did get the marshmallow update, also your going to get Samsung pay, but your going to get carrier bloat ware homever you can disable it with package disabler pro. Also you get better reception in USA and Canada. N930I comes without any Carrier bloat ware, you have better reception in Asia or Oceania . Also you may get a bit better battery life (a bit noticeable).
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Hey,
Just doing a bit of research. Wanted to get an unlocked version either the N920C or N920I so I can use it on AT&T.. I would get the AT&T variant but I hate carrier branded/modified software and additional bloat.. From what I'm understanding, either should be fine but the C variant comes with bloat correct? I've seen a lot of people using the N920I model and have had no issues and says it works great.. What carrier are you on?
jonnyszt said:
Yes, first the N920C did get the marshmallow update, also your going to get Samsung pay, but your going to get carrier bloat ware homever you can disable it with package disabler pro. Also you get better reception in USA and Canada. N930I comes without any Carrier bloat ware, you have better reception in Asia or Oceania . Also you may get a bit better battery life (a bit noticeable).
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XavierD8188 said:
Hey,
Just doing a bit of research. Wanted to get an unlocked version either the N920C or N920I so I can use it on AT&T.. I would get the AT&T variant but I hate carrier branded/modified software and additional bloat.. From what I'm understanding, either should be fine but the C variant comes with bloat correct? I've seen a lot of people using the N920I model and have had no issues and says it works great.. What carrier are you on?
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My network is a Canadian one called telus. And works ok, some low reception from time to time (3G) and also the c model got marshmallow something that the I model didn't get.
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Cool, thanks.. Gonna open a thread and see if anyone has experience with either on AT&T
jonnyszt said:
My network is a Canadian one called telus. And works ok, some low reception from time to time (3G) and also the c model got marshmallow something that the I model didn't get.
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XavierD8188 said:
Cool, thanks.. Gonna open a thread and see if anyone has experience with either on AT&T
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Go ahead no one is stopping you (except for admin)
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So will one model work on ALL major carriers unlocked?

Really really hoping for this [emoji24][emoji24][emoji24][emoji24]
http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/1...of-the-worldhere-are-all-the-supported-bands/
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Yeah, the North American version will work on the four major in the U.S. with full LTE support.
Carriers will likely still lock the device (except Verizon which keeps their phones GSM unlocked)
Americas Model (XT1103)
Global Model (XT1100)
Americas Model (XT1103)
GSM/GPRS/EDGE (850,900,1800,1900 MHz)
CDMA (800, 1900, secondary 800 MHz)
WCDMA (1, 2, 4, 5, 8)
LTE (2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 12, 13, 17, 25, 26, 29, 41)
CA DL (B2-B13, B2-B17, B2-29, B4-B5, B4-B13, B4-B17, B4-B29)
Global Model (XT1100)
GSM/GPRS/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
WCDMA (1, 2, 4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 19)
LTE (1, 3, 5, 7, 8, 9, 19, 20, 28, 41)
CA DL (B3-B5, B3-B8)
Sentrix27 said:
Yeah, the North American version will work on the four major in the U.S. with full LTE support.
Carriers will likely still lock the device (except Verizon which keeps their phones GSM unlocked)
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Oh no I'm sure AT&T and the like will lock theirs but will the one sold by Google and Moto be fully unlocked and able to be used on all major carriers including sprints? [emoji39][emoji39]
when you say "global model" is that in a sense like a Nexus phone can be bought from any shelf and have any sim inserted into it and work?
cnotes2019 said:
Oh no I'm sure AT&T and the like will lock theirs but will the one sold by Google and Moto be fully unlocked and able to be used on all major carriers including sprints? [emoji39][emoji39]
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Yep. It'll have the bands.
T-Mobile will likely remain unlocked, they have in the past with the N4 and the N5, I do not see any reason why they would start doing things differently for the N6.
Caniv said:
when you say "global model" is that in a sense like a Nexus phone can be bought from any shelf and have any sim inserted into it and work?
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There are 2 versions of the Nexus 5. One that Works on most of the carriers in North America. Another that works on most of the carriers, everywhere else. Typically called "international". The 6 will be similar.
The US Model will also work with MANY international carriers.

AT&T VoLTE

Does anyone know if the Nexus 6 sold through Google Play will support AT&T LTE, and VoLTE for that matter? I am in an HD Voice market and my mom's iPhone 6 can make calls over LTE. Of course AT&T's website says only the 6/6+ support this. I also can't seem to find any information about whether or not the Google Play Nexus 6 will support AT&T band 17 LTE. I am sure it does. If it does, what is the incentive to buy directly from AT&T?
Hopefully someone can clear this up for me. This looks like a great device.
I believe I saw B17 in the list. I'm sure it will connect for ATT. The VoLTE is unknown right now, as far as I know anyway. Hopefully the reviewers getting them will include that information. The hardware could certainly handle it. The question is if the carriers are letting it connect up. I don't see any reason not to, VoLTE is good for them. But they ARE carriers...
The chipset supports VoLTE, but whether it is enabled or not in the ATT firmware IDK. Lots of devices have supported VoLTE already, but almost none have the feature actually enabled.
B17
MattMJB0188 said:
I also can't seem to find any information about whether or not the Google Play Nexus 6 will support AT&T band 17 LTE. I am sure it does. If it does, what is the incentive to buy directly from AT&T?
Hopefully someone can clear this up for me. This looks like a great device.
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B17 is listed on Motorola's N6 Site under Specs: www motorola com /us/Nexus-6/nexus-6-motorola-us.html#nexus-6-specs":
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Americas Model (XT1103)
GSM/GPRS/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
CDMA (800, 1900, secondary 800 MHz)
WCDMA (1, 2, 4, 5, 8)
LTE (2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 12, 13, 17, 25, 26, 29, 41)
CA DL (B2-B13, B2-B17, B2-29, B4-B5, B4-B13, B4-B29)
Currently there are only a few devices that have VoLTE enabled (and only in a couple of markets), not to mention that both devices (calling and receiving) have to support (and be enabled) for HD Voice to work.
--JamesT

[Q] Does Pure Edition support Fido/Rogers 3G/LTE bands?

I'm thinking of getting the pure in the US and using it up in Canada. Wondering if it'll work. I've heard mixed things about the LTE bands and some saying that 3G won't work at all.
Much obliged.
busywaffles said:
I'm thinking of getting the pure in the US and using it up in Canada. Wondering if it'll work. I've heard mixed things about the LTE bands and some saying that 3G won't work at all.
Much obliged.
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It will work perfect, 100%
Telus sells the XT1097, your looking at the XT1095 out the US just don't pick the AT&T model as it has a locked boot loader that seems cant be unlocked at all..... The Telus model, supposed to have the quickest updates... well thats a lie.... there is no update as of today... and no indication of when either...
I was able to buy a XT1095. I still haven't received it but now all I can think about is "What if I need to use the warranty for some reason?". Did anyone in Canada have to go through that?
busywaffles said:
I'm thinking of getting the pure in the US and using it up in Canada. Wondering if it'll work. I've heard mixed things about the LTE bands and some saying that 3G won't work at all.
Much obliged.
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I asked a similar question (but for Telus) on howard forums. This is the response i received o0vL
"Moto X - Pure Edition (GSM Unlocked with T-Mo SIM - XT1095):
GSM/GPRS/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
UMTS/HSPA+ (850, 900, 1700 (AWS), 1900, 2100 MHz)
4G LTE (2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 17)
Telus Moto X Specs
4G LTE: (Bands 2, 3, 4, 5, 7,17, 29)
4G (HSPA): 2100MHz (Band I) / 1900MHz (Band II) / 1700MHz (Band IV) / 850MHz (Band V) / 900MHz (Band VIII)
Seems like the Pure Edition is missing band 29, where its available on the Telus version. Not sure if it will affect the LTE connection"
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On another thread on this site, someone mentioned that the hardware is the exact same on the canadian model as it is on the pure edition model, the only difference is the firmware. So it seems to me that a radio flash might be required in order to receive the proper bands. I'd love confirmation on this, as I plan on using motomaker in the US to build my phone.
BMelz said:
I asked a similar question (but for Telus) on howard forums. This is the response i received o0vL
On another thread on this site, someone mentioned that the hardware is the exact same on the canadian model as it is on the pure edition model, the only difference is the firmware. So it seems to me that a radio flash might be required in order to receive the proper bands. I'd love confirmation on this, as I plan on using motomaker in the US to build my phone.
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You can't actually change the modem files, you must you the original meant for the phone. The XT1095 supports all of the 2G,3G and 4G bands that Rogers/Bell/Telus/Fido/Virgin/Koodo/Wind/Mobilicity use in Canada. You don't need to do anything but insert your nano sim and possibly program the APN to get network data.
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You can't actually change the modem files, you must you the original meant for the phone. The XT1095 supports all of the 2G,3G and 4G bands that Rogers/Bell/Telus/Fido/Virgin/Koodo/Wind/Mobilicity use in Canada. You don't need to do anything but insert your nano sim and possibly program the APN to get network data.
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thanks for the reply Steve, so the lack of band 29 shouldn't be an issue? LTE speeds should be achievable?
thanks again,

[Q] URGENT - Compatibility of Moto X 2014 with O2 in the UK

Hi, guys!
I am flying to the States for work and I am thinking about getting a 64gb Moto X 2014 and I was wondering if it´s a good idea.
I am living in the UK and I´m an O2 user, and according to this website, O2 has only 800 band right here:
"O2 spent £550,000,000 to secure 2 x 10MHz of 800MHz spectrum, but didn’t come away with any 2.6GHz and has no 1.8GHz either."
Moto X, according to the website, is compatible only with this LTE networks:
"Moto X - Pure Edition (GSM Unlocked with T-Mo SIM - XT1095):
GSM/GPRS/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
UMTS/HSPA+ (850, 900, 1700 (AWS), 1900, 2100 MHz)
4G LTE (2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 17)
So, my question is... Will I be able to use this mobile here in the UK? Will I find issues with the calls, the 3g or the 4g? Any problem with the bands, at last?
I swear I have been reading this morning a lot of articles but I'm a NERD in telecommunications
I would really appreciate if you guys could give me a hand here because I´m departing quite soon
Thanks in advance!
As far as I can 4g will not work because the phone does not support O2 bands but 3g should work fine.
hasm_747 said:
As far as I can 4g will not work because the phone does not support O2 bands but 3g should work fine.
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Thanks, dude... Isn´t there any way to make that work? Here they don't sell the 64gb and I really need that amount of space
Thanks again!
luismix said:
Thanks, dude... Isn´t there any way to make that work? Here they don't sell the 64gb and I really need that amount of space
Thanks again!
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It is a physical limitation rather than a software one. So most likely, there is no way to change/fix it.
EDIT: It seems that 3's and EE's 4g have compatible bands so if you are willing to switch to one of them it might work.
3 supports band 3 (1800 Mhz) same with EE.
SOURCE: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks
NOTE: haven't 3 proposed a buyout of O2?
SOURCE: http://www.engadget.com/2015/01/23/three-uk-acquisition/
hasm_747 said:
It is a physical limitation rather than a software one. So most likely, there is no way to change/fix it.
EDIT: It seems that 3's and EE's 4g have compatible bands so if you are willing to switch to one of them it might work.
3 supports band 3 (1800 Mhz) same with EE.
SOURCE: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks
NOTE: haven't 3 proposed a buyout of O2?
SOURCE: http://www.engadget.com/2015/01/23/three-uk-acquisition/
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Correct! I heard that 2 weeks ago and it's going to be great for O2 customers... 3 is now a HUGE company here in the UK.
It looks like I will end up getting it because it will work... And I don´t want to stay with O2 anyway
Thanks, guys!
Hey! Let´s go for the next level...
What about the Droid Turbo?
Bands
LTE Cat 4 (Bands 2, 3, 4, 7, 13)
CDMA/EVDO Rev A (850, 1900 MHz)
UMTS/HSPA+ (850, 900, 1900, 2100 MHz)
GSM/GPRS/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
Carrier Aggregation (B4+13)
Any idea? I already decided to leave O2 and go to EE or 3, will I be able to use it with 1800 band?
Thanks again!
The Turbo have band 3, which should be compatible with 3 and EE, BUT I think it is carrier locked to Verizon and I am not sure if you can unlock it or not.
hasm_747 said:
The Turbo have band 3, which should be compatible with 3 and EE, BUT I think it is carrier locked to Verizon and I am not sure if you can unlock it or not.
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Awesome! Thanks! Moto X is my choice

International Note 5?

Where can I buy a international note 5 for germany?
Thanks
seems its available in singapore, anyknows where it can be bought online
Yes, it is available in Singapore... I bought mine in a samsung-shop on saturday. Not sure about online ordering.
Maybe you can try here...
http://www.expansys.com.sg/mobile-phones/brand/samsung/
check ur PM
Does anyone know which Version Supports german language and celluar bands?
Hey, I have not looked at asian note 5 yet, I will do so soon.
For Europe, you need gsm and lte 3, 7, and 20 (1800, 2600, 800 MHz) [no26-800MHz # no20-800MHz! ...]
To use US phones for Europe, this is what i have come up with.
http://imgur.com/1yPhyFQ
I based that on what I found for SM-N920 A/V/P (AT&T, Verizon, Sprint), German/UK LTE network requirements, and the Galaxy S6 (SM-G920 A/V/P/F, F=Europe/Int). I guess the Note 5 is pretty much a S6 with larger screen and pen, so network capabilities should not differ too much between the S6 and the Note 5, hopefully.
I will get a AT&T device soon, hopefully only bootloader unlocked and just KNOX (don't care too much about warranty for US phone since I import it...). AT&T should work for most of Europe, or respectively for LTE 3, 7, and 20....
I see what I can find for the Asian Note 5 ('s) and msg back
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Haven't found much info on the SM-N920S / SM-N920K (Korea, Asia?), but based on the SM-G920S/K or Galaxy S6, versus the SM-G920F Europe, there are some minor differences, but I think these should work just fine in Europe as well... http://www.mobosdata.com/samsung-galaxy-s6-sm-g920f (k, s).
g/l
Ill also need to import one, since it wont come here to brazil...needs to be lte band 7...id like to buy it today if possible...
How you can use a Galaxy Note 5 from U.S in Europe? is the region block...
the at&t one, unlock via website, not straight forward potentially, but seems possible espc as non-customer - https://www.att.com/deviceunlock/
but what bothers me is this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/note5/general/verizon-att-samsung-note-5-knox-root-t3183641 - i guess will hold off the note 5 at&t for now, same with verizon, and sprint might not have full lte capabilities.
i might get the surface phone lol (if i can get full access to registry and group policies and have some way of turning all the phoning home off)...
Man, why you speack about Note with carriers?
On eBay there are a lot model FACTORY UNLOCKED, are they good? they have the region block if i buy them and i use in Italy?
I have the singapore one.
And it works just fine here in the netherlands.
At my home I don't have 4G.
Outside there is no problem.
I think the singapore one misses the 800 band.
4G is working only in the big cities here for now with this note 5.
Later this year the phone company release another bands.
800Mhz is to 1800 and 2600MHz LTE - loosely compared - as 5GHz Wifi is to 2.4GHz -- higher transfer speeds at the higher frequencies but shorter range and less signal through obstancles, generally speaking.
Would explain why inside you would not get a great LTE signal, if the 800MHz band is missing.... imho
You are right.
But the seller told me the 800 is there.
And now I know there is not a 800.
But here in the netherlands the provider also uses the 1800,but only in the big cities.
That's why the phone picks up 4G when I am outside.
yh, most european countries use all 800, 1800, and 2600, depending on region/area/whatnot...
just saying, without 800 capability, and when you happen to have 800 mast outside your area, you might not get signal, especially inside... ofc you can still have lte via 1800 and 2600, provided you are close enough and have a mast nearby, more likely in the cities (lots of data over short ranges)
Still I am happy with the note 5.
I am not saying anything about that
Apart from the obvious things everyone knows about vs the Note 4, it's a great looking piece of kit!
Also, Seller MIGHT have said 800 is there, as in 800MHz B26, but what you'd need in Europe is 800MHz-B20...
I saw it on ebay.
It's 800 B26.
My mistake.
I don't bother.
I read about Samsung region block and we can't put a different SIM respect the SIM of the contry model. Don't you have problem?
Does anyone have an SM-N920I?
It probably has more / less bands than you think. What's posted online doesn't actually reflect much about the actual phone. Does anyone have an SM-N920I?
In your dialer could you please type *#2263# and naivate to Band Selection. Post here what's in WCDMA and LTE.
On the S6 SM-G920I:
WCDMA: 2100, 900, 1700, 850, 1900
LTE: 1,2,3,4,5,7,8,12,13,17,18,19,20,25,26,28,29,40
on my N920I I have the following:
WCDMA: 2100, 900, 850, 1900
LTE: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 13, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 25, 26, 28, 29, 30, 38, 39, 40, 41
Let me know if you want something else too.
I bought this device to use on AT&T in the USA. So far it is working perfectly.

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