I was thinking of taking a year off from Android development and see what IOS is like. I doubt it would be permanent, but am curious as to people's opinions. A developer mentor is switching to an IPad and this got me thinking.
have fun dealing with crApple :silly:
I wouldn`t change to an iPhone even if i got it for free tbh. No root, no costumisation and no app drawer.
Im one of the biggest android nut swingers around (talking **** about apple when the opportunity presents itself.)
That being said, let me be the first to say....
GO FOR IT.
You dont know how much greener the grass is over here until your looking back at it.
As far as something simple that works out of the box as it should, its a great device. your never going to have "facebook crashed" or launcher redraws. Simple and amazingly fluid UI, especially since they come with a single gb of ddr3 ram. (Amazing right?)
Kind of like hondas. every one talks crap about them, but that efficent little 4 cyl will ride on some v8's
The iTunes store was nice when it first came out, but it really draws back on the phone. The google play store is great being able to browse apps and then install them right from the web. Backing up is easier and you aren't tied to one computer. I had the original iPhone then got the iPhone 4 before switching to the Galaxy SIII
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The iTunes store was nice when it first came out, but it really draws back on the phone. The google play store is great being able to browse apps and then install them right from the web. Backing up is easier and you aren't tied to one computer. I had the original iPhone then got the iPhone 4 before switching to the Galaxy SIII
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I was thinking of taking a year off from Android development and see what IOS is like.
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When you like the white-ui design iOS is a good choice, because Apple does not use amoled displays. That means less battery drain and better reading.
Google refuses to give users the option of a dark ui, but with root and layers it is customizable and cheaper.
iOS is nice if you can jailbreak but you still cant modify CPU and GPU or under the hood stuff like you can with Android. You can install unofficial apps from cydia like tweaks but its a different ball park. Android lets you do basic things that you cant do on an Iphone.
Just get an iPad and keep your Android. iPads are still a lot better IMO and you can test iOS throughly.
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iOS is nice if you can jailbreak but you still cant modify CPU and GPU or under the hood stuff like you can with Android. You can install unofficial apps from cydia like tweaks but its a different ball park. Android lets you do basic things that you cant do on an Iphone.
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Jailbreak is carrier unlock not root or bootloader unlock?
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Jailbreak is carrier unlock not root or bootloader unlock?
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A jailbreak is modifying the system with a custom OS that's been changed. Carrier unlock requires you to be jailbroken. Most LTE phones are unlocked by carrier anyway. Root and jailbreak are similar but not the same. It's like running with administrator privileges on a Windows based system.
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A jailbreak is modifying the system with a custom OS that's been changed. Carrier unlock requires you to be jailbroken. Most LTE phones are unlocked by carrier anyway. Root and jailbreak are similar but not the same. It's like running with administrator privileges on a Windows based system.
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There's a lot of f-u-c-k-e-r-y in that post.
First of, both of you need to go here and read up some.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/IOS_jailbreaking.
If you're to lazy, then I'll just tell you. Jailbreaking is VERY similar to root. It allows access and modification to the system. With this you change basic or advance features. You CANT and never will be able to install a "custom OS" on an iPhone. There is maybe 1 semi working Android port. Everything else is all iOS.
Also carrier unlocked does not require you to be jail broken. You can have your carrier unlock it, or pay and give someone your imei for a network unlock code.
And another thing, most LTE phones are NOT carrier unlocked. For example, look at almost everyone of Verizon's phone. Sprint also likes to carrier lock things. But just like an iPhone, the carrier can unlock, or you can pay and give your imei code to get an unlock code.
Please do not try to pass off your assumptions as facts.
I been thinking the same thing, something different. Why not ???
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I been thinking the same thing, something different. Why not ???
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That is my current idea, maybe for a year. Might depend on the fall Nexus models.
Also depends on what jailbreak tools exist here for IOS 9.
Read about jsilbreaking, so there is some potential for modding. Anyone else with suggestions or advice?
Both of my older kids (college age) have iPhones, but I don't think I could ever go that route. That being said, if you just want a phone that works, has unparalleled 3rd party support with an excellent warranty, then an iPhone is the phone for you. I wouldn't recommend buying one if you plan on dinking around with it like we all do with our Android phones. Jailbreaking is sketchy and honestly doesn't get you that much. Most people go to Apple for the excellent ecosystem (and not to mention the warranty that jailbreaking will void), but jailbreaking pops you right out of that and basically puts you completely on your own, sort of defeating the purpose for an iPhone. A lot of carriers have really nice "iPhone for Life" type programs where every year you automatically get the latest iPhone. It's actually all a pretty sweet deal, but it's just not what I want from a phone. I'm a 20 year career network engineer, so anything and everything Apple has been the bane of my professional existence for a really long time, so I don't really care for anything Apple. But opinions vary!
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There's a lot of f-u-c-k-e-r-y in that post.
First of, both of you need to go here and read up some.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/IOS_jailbreaking.
If you're to lazy, then I'll just tell you. Jailbreaking is VERY similar to root. It allows access and modification to the system. With this you change basic or advance features. You CANT and never will be able to install a "custom OS" on an iPhone. There is maybe 1 semi working Android port. Everything else is all iOS.
Also carrier unlocked does not require you to be jail broken. You can have your carrier unlock it, or pay and give someone your imei for a network unlock code.
And another thing, most LTE phones are NOT carrier unlocked. For example, look at almost everyone of Verizon's phone. Sprint also likes to carrier lock things. But just like an iPhone, the carrier can unlock, or you can pay and give your imei code to get an unlock code.
Please do not try to pass off your assumptions as facts.
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Notice I said changed not installing a custom OS. By jailbreaking and modifying with tweaks and other tools, it's definitely not stock once you change it. I also stated that you cannot do any under the hood changes like CPU or GPU in an IPhone. Jailbreaking is similar to root by gaining access but not the same. I have Verizon and I have always been able to take the phones I bought with them to any carrier with the exception of Sprint because they suck. The att iPhone I had once only had GSM chip in so not CDMA carriers for it. I was told when I had my iPhone that I could unlock it from my carrier (which is hell) or do the other way, but was also told that I need to jailbroken for anything. I have modified the ipcc file before and when you backup your stuff, its a custom ipsw file. This is why I have an Android again.
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Moving to iOS ? Sounds more like a punishment than a benefit.
The nice thing about iOS is that they pre-determine everything in advance for you like icon layout, interface, etc, etc without giving you option b/c obviously they know what's best for you. Being told what's good for you.....reminds me of the Federal Government actually.
This sounds like good advice. Is the claim that even with jail breaking, I will not be satisfied?
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This sounds like good advice. Is the claim that even with jail breaking, I will not be satisfied?
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Why do you want to modify in the first place?
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This sounds like good advice. Is the claim that even with jail breaking, I will not be satisfied?
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Is it possible to create an android iphone emulator, like we have wine in linux, and then rape there market place, so that not only do we have all our apps available but all iphone apps as well?
you might wanna look up the abreviation "wine", it stands for Wine Is Not an Emulator, which tries to tell you that wine is not an emulator.
and no, it is not possible. too complicated and not enough computing power.
I laughed at this.
Sounds like this thread should be in a completely different forum/website
I was almost confused as to what the OP was getting at, based purely on your Thread subject title
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Sounds like this thread should be in a completely different forum/website
I was almost confused as to what the OP was getting at, based purely on your Thread subject title
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that also. everybody tries to use a decent voice around here, and then this.
Maybe make a prayer to the Mobile OS GODS?
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Maybe make a prayer to the Mobile OS GODS?
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or sacrifice a virgin (phone)...
Even if this was EVEN possible, Apple's just going to take being raped in the ass? Don't think so.
IMO, the iPhone has an iron clad ass that can't be "raped".
I have a 32gs and just got a Hero...android has alot of catching up to do...
On a side note, Mozilla is releasing "Fennec" which will be available for WM, Android, and the iPhone that will use universal web apps...Thats the only shot at leveling the app store playing field.
Iphone has great media capability, and I admire that but I do like the way I can customise and get apps that are virtually impossible on the Apple store. Android does have catching up but it's seems to be doing that pretty fast.
I can do anything with my 3gs that i could realistically do with my hero...
wifi router, tethering, multitasking (with a much better gui), download torrents, smart dialer, folders, themes, a cracked app store, much more conveinent toggles,mobile terminal, firewall, ad-blocker, flash drive, file explorer, stream media, download youtube vids,etc...there's even a different interface for the homescreen itself available..the only main diff i see is custom roms, which isnt even any kind of set back for the iphone...
A stock iphone really cant be compared to an Android device (especially one with a custom rom)in terms of out-of-the-box-functionality and abilities, but a jailbroken iphone is right on the same playing field from a user standpoint.
Your response is correct, to a point. A jailbroken iphone is a totally different device, I can flawlessly multitask with a beautiful interface, have a flash drive app/very easy ftp access, folders on homescreen, insane themes that change the entire look or even a different homescreens all together (Pogoplank), landscape homescreen, mobile terminal, file explorer,toggles,an "app store" with only cracked apps...blah blah blah..the list goes on and on..
point being is that an out-of-the-box iPhone really cant be compared to an Android device, but once you jail break its a level playing field-from a user stand point.
i said **** in a thread once and got given out to haha you make one called i phone rape and are still going strong... kudos!
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IMO, the iPhone has an iron clad ass that can't be "raped".
I have a 32gs and just got a Hero...android has alot of catching up to do...
On a side note, Mozilla is releasing "Fennec" which will be available for WM, Android, and the iPhone that will use universal web apps...Thats the only shot at leveling the app store playing field.
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Fennec will never be released on the iPhone
Apple never would accept it to the App Store like they did it on Opera
Why do you have to Root android phone's to do anything good to them??????, is what my iPhone friend just told me. I need a really good comeback. Any suggestions?
come on guys....
Call him a dumbfuck. Alternatively, ask him what exactly what these "good things" are that you need to root to access. Multi-tasking? Yeah, been able to do that since forever. Customization? Same. Install a home replacement. Wallpapers? Ditto. The latest iPhone OS only brought to the table features Android has been able to do out of the box from the beginning. Flash? Get your Froyo on via official OTA, no need to root.
Oh, and ask him what he can do with an unjailbroken iPhone. Out of the box, it's a crippled piece of ****.
You can do a lot of "good" things to your phone without rooting.
With froyo comes the LED flashlight and tethering.
Ask him if he can tether or install 3rd party apps (w/o iTunes) without jailbreaking his iPhone and see what he says
lol thanks guys...keep it coming!!!
I have to answer this question at least once or twice a week when asked by many of my co-workers who gave up their crackberries for android. I give them the basics: Overclocking, undervolting, unrestricted tethering etc....But it's best put this way: Imagine having a car that can do 150 MPH but its restricted to 60 MPH. You may not have to go over 60 MPH but you should be able to if needed right? I hacked every smartphone I have owned because I refuse to get less than what my money is worth. If your heart pumps kool-aid or you like being pimped by manufacturers/service providers, then don't jailbreak/root.
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Why do you have to Root android phone's to do anything good to them??????, is what my iPhone friend just told me. I need a really good comeback. Any suggestions?
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Tell him it's actually the opposite. Personally I could NOT use an iPhone if it wasn't Jailbroken. This is coming from someone who used an iPhone 3GS for 10 months exclusively. Personally iPhone jailbroken is pretty good. It's pretty useless without jailbreaking, turning on/off wifi/gps/bt, is slow, multitasking, folders/categories/contact picture hack, better sms app, etc..etc..
Ask him to load up some widgets, live wallpapers, google Nav. etc etc etc.
... there's a reason they call it "JAILBREAKING" and "ROOTING".
Jailbreaking = iPhone is useless without it, a lonely condemned soul waiting to be released. And even after you jailbreak it, it's horny, hungry and dumb as hell.
Rooted = getting access to additional features that require admin level access. Personally, I had only 2 reasons to root at all - wifi hotspot and flashlight. BOTH are now available for NON-rooted N1s. So.. Unless you got specific reasons to root.. your phone is already a powerhouse that can do anything.
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Rooted = getting access to additional features that require admin level access. Personally, I had only 2 reasons to root at all - wifi hotspot and flashlight. BOTH are now available for NON-rooted N1s. So.. Unless you got specific reasons to root.. your phone is already a powerhouse that can do anything.
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Honestly, the flashlight was the only real reason I ended up rooting. I've since installed other root-only apps, but they do have non-root equivalents.
duh to load custom roms
Be able to uninstall Twitter is all the reason I need to root. Seriously Google, stop doing that, if I want it I'll go find it. Don't start messing your phones up like AT&T does.
I've gone from the At&T Tilt to the Captivate and it is the best phone I've ever owned. I don't like everything that Google does but business is business. As far as the droid os is concerned I wholeheartedly love it. I'm an oldskool Linux user and it is a nice to have a phone that has a similar architecture.
Quick question, since I have rooted my phone does that make my phone more vulnerable to the nasty stuff out there?
Love the XDA community, thanks for the help!
Regarding your question about rooting, as long as you have the whitelist application SuperUser, you should be fine from anything as that app will ask your permission every time something asks for root access. But beware what you allow root. If you run some app that wasn't supposed to get root access from a source you're unsure about, deny it and see what happens. You can also go into the app and clear it later.
Thanks for the advice, I noticed that the Market has an allow in SU for 'various packages'. I disabled that as I have no idea why they need root access.
I just got my Otterbox Commuter case and at&t screen protector. Google should be arrested for serving up crack in the form of hardware devices.
klepto said:
Thanks for the advice, I noticed that the Market has an allow in SU for 'various packages'. I disabled that as I have no idea why they need root access.
I just got my Otterbox Commuter case and at&t screen protector. Google should be arrested for serving up crack in the form of hardware devices.
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I agree with your crack comment. These phones are way to much fun, and definately addictive to play with.
I went from the iphone to the captivate and I love it so far. There is a few glitches but it has to do with Samsung more than the OS.
yeah just wait till you start flashing roms just follow the instructions and you will be hooked ....i mean fine....lol these phones are real fun to play with i have three and my family loves them especialy the sound when you flash a rom that has support for voodoo sound.
Heh I went from a really crappy dumb phone (Sony k790) straight to my Rogers Captivate.. And man what a change lol.
After just one or two days I got a custom ROM on there.. And now I'm just addicted to trying different ROMs
klepto said:
I'm an oldskool Linux user and it is a nice to have a phone that has a similar architecture.
Quick question, since I have rooted my phone does that make my phone more vulnerable to the nasty stuff out there?
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You would be amazed how do those devices hook up with linux OS. I personally used ubuntu all the time and I'm discovering new things about this phone almost everyday yet a long way ahead.
Rooting is just like "sudo" command on linux, have to think twice when you grant super user access particularly item s you get out of the market, otherwise it is safe.
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I've gone from the At&T Tilt to the Captivate and it is the best phone I've ever owned. I don't like everything that Google does but business is business. As far as the droid os is concerned I wholeheartedly love it. I'm an oldskool Linux user and it is a nice to have a phone that has a similar architecture.
Quick question, since I have rooted my phone does that make my phone more vulnerable to the nasty stuff out there?
Love the XDA community, thanks for the help!
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Your post reminded me of this thread.
Android != Droid
A Droid is an Android, but an Android is not a Droid (See: Square; Rectangle).
DAMN YOU VERIZON AND YOUR MARKETING!
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Android != Droid
A Droid is an Android, but an Android is not a Droid (See: Square; Rectangle).
DAMN YOU VERIZON AND YOUR MARKETING!
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Agreed, DAMN THEM!
I HATE! when people say "I have a Droid phone" annoys me so much.
MikeyMike01 said:
Android != Droid
A Droid is an Android, but an Android is not a Droid (See: Square; Rectangle).
DAMN YOU VERIZON AND YOUR MARKETING!
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+1 Thank you!
hey i noticed how ios has amazing hacks once you jailbreak it. things that you didnt even know would be possible with the device. are there hacks like this with android? i love my droid and wanna see everything it can do. post your top hacks to help me out :]
Search the word "root" or go to the android development area of the D3 forum and your mind will be blown..
i have steeldroid 3.0 its great. i mean things lik cydia for the iphone, where its a market that just features thousands of user developed mods
Ha! Oh yes my friend. We have "root" our jailbreaking term, and much more. We have more stock that we can do that you cannot do on a jailbroken iPhone. But yes, to theme it and have super user access you need to root.
Definitely look into rooting. just know that 1) it voids your warranty if something gets messed up(but same with jailbreak of iphone anways so who cares) 2) RESEARCH before your start messing with things and read up on things because i can tell u from firsthand experience, your going to brick your phone if you do not put some solid time into research. i bricked my phone because i just wanted my phone to look cool and i didnt care about the effects it would have. I flashed a "non flashable" zip on my phone and that was the end of that haha. I am by no means a pro. I only recently got into the rooting of the phones this past year and a half or so. But XDA is a great way to learn what you dont know already. I learned almost everything on this website. The people here are extremely knowledged(a lot more than me lol) and someone will always be there to answer questions you have. Once you root.. a whole new lifestyle emerges
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jailbreaking is nothing compared to root acess
acess to system files basically able to modify anything you want. ios has "live wallpapers" once you jailbreak not! more like looped mp4s. android is open source has widgets flash. ios doesnt compare.
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Benjamin150 said:
Ha! Oh yes my friend. We have "root" our jailbreaking term, and much more. We have more stock that we can do that you cannot do on a jailbroken iPhone. But yes, to theme it and have super user access you need to root.
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wut he said ^^ XD
Im guessing you guys missed it but i have rooted already. i have SteelDroid3. its great but i meant things like running different OS's, emulators, and the simple tweaks like modding the actualy system, to like make the camera focus faster. stuff like that. and cydia ofcourse. i heard there were emulators just dont know where to get stuff liket aht though :/ You are definitely rigth about it having more access without even rooting though, droid kills iphone. I just miss all the customizations of ipod
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Im guessing you guys missed it but i have rooted already. i have SteelDroid3. its great but i meant things like running different OS's, emulators, and the simple tweaks like modding the actualy system, to like make the camera focus faster. stuff like that. and cydia ofcourse. i heard there were emulators just dont know where to get stuff liket aht though :/ You are definitely rigth about it having more access without even rooting though, droid kills iphone. I just miss all the customizations of ipod
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You can find most emulators on the market or online. I have a nintendo64, gameboy color, and gameboy advance emulator I found on the market.
We also just found out about the camera app rom the Atrix. If we replace our camera app with that one, everything about the camera speeds up.
Its also all about looking in the right place for stuff. Instead of having Cydia, we have XDA.
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Here's you answer. Flashing ROMs and Rooting is like jailbreaking. I see no purpose for rooting unless you want to flash a custom ROM.
Rooting also allows you to use apps that need to be rooted, like Titanium backup and one of those screen shot apps.
As for hacking after rooting? I have no idea. Just install personalization and productivity apps.
Many apps that would be in Cydia are already in Google's Market since it is not as restrictive as Apple's. You can find console emulators there. For phone specific tweaks and programs this forum is a good place to check. Its harder to find hardware tweak programs since there are so many Android phones and only one iPhone. But for software there is a lot out there, custom stuff and beta apks if you want to try them.
I really don't think there is much you can do with iOS
I mean yeah there's some customizing
but I've never seen a fully customized ipod or iphone
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Many apps that would be in Cydia are already in Google's Market since it is not as restrictive as Apple's. You can find console emulators there. For phone specific tweaks and programs this forum is a good place to check. Its harder to find hardware tweak programs since there are so many Android phones and only one iPhone. But for software there is a lot out there, custom stuff and beta apks if you want to try them.
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i forgot about that. that makes since of why a cydia like app wouldnt work. well it would but it would take some work. But thanks that cleared most of the stuff up for me. Im going to look up the emulators and see if there are any tweaks on here :]
Jerminator617 said:
I really don't think there is much you can do with iOS
I mean yeah there's some customizing
but I've never seen a fully customized ipod or iphone
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youtube. most people dont know everything the iphone can do but their customizations are crazy in numbers compared to android.
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i forgot about that. that makes since of why a cydia like app wouldnt work. well it would but it would take some work. But thanks that cleared most of the stuff up for me. Im going to look up the emulators and see if there are any tweaks on here :]
youtube. most people dont know everything the iphone can do but their customizations are crazy in numbers compared to android.
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I don't think so. I think there are many customizations on the hacked iPhone because it's restricted some features in the first place.
I think to you Android doesn't have any customizations because there are so many customizations in the first place without the need for rooting that you're convinced that rooting it doesn't do much at all (besides custom Roms).
Call it an illusion?
Otherwise show us some things the jailbroken iPhone can do that a non-rooted Android device can not.
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I really don't think there is much you can do with iOS
I mean yeah there's some customizing
but I've never seen a fully customized ipod or iphone
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I don't think so. I think there are many customizations on the hacked iPhone because it's restricted some features in the first place.
I think to you Android doesn't have any customizations because there are so many customizations in the first place without the need for rooting that you're convinced that rooting it doesn't do much at all (besides custom Roms).
Call it an illusion?
Otherwise show us some things the jailbroken iPhone can do that a non-rooted Android device can not.
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YOutube this stuff:
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barrelroll 3d [the ability it has to switch animations without having to flash]
cydia elite pro theme [compare that to a normal iphone theme. they can change their signal bars to be wateva symbol or picture, color of their time, how many icons on the screen, everything, without having to flash their device]
thats just a couple. im not saying iphone better but it has better customizations.
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YOutube this stuff:
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barrelroll 3d [the ability it has to switch animations without having to flash]
cydia elite pro theme [compare that to a normal iphone theme. they can change their signal bars to be wateva symbol or picture, color of their time, how many icons on the screen, everything, without having to flash their device]
thats just a couple. im not saying iphone better but it has better customizations.
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Barrel 3D (do you mean Barrelroll 3D or Barrel 3D?)
Try LauncherPro by Federico and change the transition effect to whatever you like.
Graviboard
Here are some similar stuff: "Shake Them All!" by YOUGLI and "Seeds of Life" Live by We Like CAPS!
Cydia Elite Pro
The hard way: flash a custom ROM or design your own ROM
The incomplete way: download a custom launcher like LauncherPro, or some apps that appear in the notification tray like Quick Settings.
The best way: create demand for it, start asking for it, petition for something like Cydia Elite Pro.
BTW, with LauncherPro you can: change scroll animation, set number of columns/rolls/icons, change your dock at the bottom, hide notification bar on top. And LauncherPro is only one of many launchers.
Furthermore, believe me when I say it's possible. There used to be an app for Windows Mobile to modify the icons and appearance of the notification tray on top of the screen. I think that if Windows Mobile can do it, then Android can do it. So what can you do? Talk to the person who developed the Windows Mobile app and tell him to join Android development. As for the name of the app and the developer; I don't remember who made it or what it's called but I am not lying to you.
What you've asked for are 100% possible on Android. What you need is patience and to be able to ask for it.
Sorry Dri94 but why don't you just use your Droid 3 for a couple of weeks and test and try everything instead of comparing everything with the i*hone. When I switched from Symbian to WinMo 6 I did the same.
If you're worried about having to "flash the device" to get custom features then Android is too advanced for you, get an iPhone. All those Cydia tweaks do is change little pieces of Apple's crappy ass launcher. Flashing a ROM gives us an entirely customized and optimized version of Android. There's hundreds of system wide themes you can apply with Theme Chooser, which is built into CyanogenMod.
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Barrel 3D (do you mean Barrelroll 3D or Barrel 3D?)
Try LauncherPro by Federico and change the transition effect to whatever you like.
Graviboard
Here are some similar stuff: "Shake Them All!" by YOUGLI and "Seeds of Life" Live by We Like CAPS!
Cydia Elite Pro
The hard way: flash a custom ROM or design your own ROM
The incomplete way: download a custom launcher like LauncherPro, or some apps that appear in the notification tray like Quick Settings.
The best way: create demand for it, start asking for it, petition for something like Cydia Elite Pro.
BTW, with LauncherPro you can: change scroll animation, set number of columns/rolls/icons, change your dock at the bottom, hide notification bar on top. And LauncherPro is only one of many launchers.
Furthermore, believe me when I say it's possible. There used to be an app for Windows Mobile to modify the icons and appearance of the notification tray on top of the screen. I think that if Windows Mobile can do it, then Android can do it. So what can you do? Talk to the person who developed the Windows Mobile app and tell him to join Android development. As for the name of the app and the developer; I don't remember who made it or what it's called but I am not lying to you.
What you've asked for are 100% possible on Android. What you need is patience and to be able to ask for it.
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THanks you helped alot ! this is what i was looking for. Well im a photo editor and a java programmer, ill see if i can start my own work on creating in depth themes like that, and ask people here in the community for help. People here seem to be geniuses at coding. its really cool to see!!!
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If you're worried about having to "flash the device" to get custom features then Android is too advanced for you, get an iPhone. All those Cydia tweaks do is change little pieces of Apple's crappy ass launcher. Flashing a ROM gives us an entirely customized and optimized version of Android. There's hundreds of system wide themes you can apply with Theme Chooser, which is built into CyanogenMod.
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If you read, instead of being douchey to the iphone, you woudl see i already flashed my device, its not too advanced for me. I keep getting talked to dumb because i use the word iphone, its not forbidden and its a good device. Android is better but its dumb to say iphone isnt good at all, and to treat me like im dumb because i like both devices... its just an inconvience if im walking around and need to flash my device just to get different things. i often try 20 different things before i choose one. CyanogenMod is still in alpha btw. when it comes out then i will definitely use it tho. it looks awesome
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THanks you helped alot ! this is what i was looking for. Well im a photo editor and a java programmer, ill see if i can start my own work on creating in depth themes like that, and ask people here in the community for help. People here seem to be geniuses at coding. its really cool to see!!!
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Also, I tried to remember the name of the apps that I used to tweak the notification tray, but I just can't find it (not even searching by history on XDA). If I remember the app, I'll tell you and I suggest you contact those developers. Based on my experiences as a consumer, some developers do listen.
I have both iPhone and Note 3
lifehacker (dot) com/5916593/ forget-android-the-iphone-is-a-better-phone-for-hacking-tweaking-and-customization
This link sums it up. I literally have more tweaks and customizations on the jailbroken iPhone than I do with my rooted Note 3. QuickDo, reveal, bitesms, phantom (for snapchat), pandora downloader, mewseek, codescrambler, cyueye, f.lux, flagpaint, folderenhancer, rageboard, quickphoto, locationholic, luna, octopus keyboard (blows any android alternative away) protecti, spotdict, springtomize, and zeppelin.
I love the note 3 though, hands down better in terms of everything. size, speed and specs. I just think that the Cydia/Jailbreak community is much more integrated and tighter. Jailbreak is easy to get rid of and go back to stock without having to worry about any KNOX flags being tripped etc. Simply restore with iTunes and that is it. I would like to see some of the tweaks I mentioned and maybe have a more centralized repository, especially for us new to android from ios
Compared to say the S5, or Note 4 ?
I was shocked last weekend when my friends and I had some bbq afternoon... All 10 of them had a shiny iphone 6 !
Mind you these people don't know sh ite about rooting and stuff like that, they just take pictures and post them on instagram and sh itbook, even my cousin and her husband... am I the only one who loves Android and Samsung? or they have not seen the light yet????
Lol. I just look at the sheeple and laugh.
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Mind you, these are the same people that will take their laptop to an "expert" when they have a virus.
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[/COLOR]Mind you, these are the same people that will take their laptop to an "expert" when they have a virus.
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exactly right, they abuse me when they get a virus on their laptop...
iPhones are just popular because they are easy to use and are updated often and quickly. It's a painless process to upload your music, movies and photos. iOS has a huge app library with very nice quality apps. The phones look great and perform well. Using one iPhone means you pretty much know how to use any iPhone. This is unlike Android where music management is a nightmare. The Play store is flooded with low quality apps and poor support. Using one Android phone means you know nothing about all the other Android phones. In short, to the non tech geek iPhones are the go-to. They are popular because they are easy to use. It also helps that Apples products are usually a status symbol.
The downside to not having Android is your limited in customization of ROMs or kernels. That doesn't mean you can't customize iOS. You just can't go as far as you can with Android.
Android Phones gives you more freedom.
Apple iPhones gives you less headaches.
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iPhones are just popular because they are easy to use and are updated often and quickly. It's a painless process to upload your music, movies and photos. iOS has a huge app library with very nice quality apps. The phones look great and perform well. Using one iPhone means you pretty much know how to use any iPhone. This is unlike Android where music management is a nightmare. The Play store is flooded with low quality apps and poor support. Using one Android phone means you know nothing about all the other Android phones. In short, to the non tech geek iPhones are the go-to. They are popular because they are easy to use. It also helps that Apples products are usually a status symbol.
The downside to not having Android is your limited in customization of ROMs or kernels. That doesn't mean you can't customize iOS. You just can't go as far as you can with Android.
Android Phones gives you more freedom.
Apple iPhones gives you less headaches.
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Could not have said that better IPhone is perfect when you just want the phone that works without much hassle. Android is perfect when you love tweaking and playing with your phone and not actually use it that much Because with a android you are never satisfied, there is always something more to tweak, change rom and other stuff so for me it always ends with just messing with it. To much time tweaking and flashing to find the perfect setup
Although the tweaking and flashing is a massive plus with Android for me, an even bigger plus is the ability to download files like mp3s and pdfs etc from the net or a torrent and play them straight away. With IOS you can't. Android is much more like a true mini pc compared to IOS. That's why I could never go back to IOS.
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Although the tweaking and flashing is a massive plus with Android for me, an even bigger plus is the ability to download files like mp3s and pdfs etc from the net or a torrent and play them straight away. With IOS you can't. Android is much more like a true mini pc compared to IOS. That's why I could never go back to IOS.
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Oh yeah, the mp3 download is a big factor for me. My friends ask me where I buy music. I said it's free and I use my phone, and showed a friend once... he just kept quiet. If you reverse the situation, I'm sure they'd be bragging.
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Oh yeah, the mp3 download is a big factor for me. My friends ask me where I buy music. I said it's free and I use my phone, and showed a friend once... he just kept quiet. If you reverse the situation, I'm sure they'd be bragging.
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you dont have to buy anything
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you dont have to buy anything
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Yep it's called stealing ....
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Ive a app called xender which sends all the mp3 & videos from android to iphone without any hassle otherwise I would have said bye bye iphone.I think iphone should reduce some restrictions,would gather more android users.
What do you guys think?
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RISHI RAJ said:
Ive a app called xender which sends all the mp3 & videos from android to iphone without any hassle otherwise I would have said bye bye iphone.I think iphone should reduce some restrictions,would gather more android users.
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Me, NOT at the moment. I am so used to android, just like my PC vs Mac, and my Canon DSLR vs Nikon...
But time will tell, now that Samsung started rolling phones that have irreplaceable battery and no SD card support...
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Yep it's called stealing ....
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Nope i meant it goes same for both os.
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Nope i meant it goes same for both os.
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Given the way the OP phrased his post - I think we were both accurate But yes you are right. There are plenty of people accessing content they haven't paid for on iOS too.
as an ex-iphone user (went from S1 to iphone 4 then iphone 5, back to S3 and every samsung since then) i have a similar view on them.
iPhones are simple to understand - not simple to use. there is always one way to do something, and thats it.
For many people thats preferable to feeling like an idiot when there is 10 ways to do something. go to android and watch a movie "oh it didnt work" - you tell them to try BS player or MX player and they just throw their hands in the air, because the built in video player is holy and sacred.
The reason for the simplicity is simple: On apple, every last thing is designed to come from itunes, and be played by the apple stock apps. there is one source to get the content, one app to play them, and the only thing that seperates the users is how much money you have to throw at the apple ecosystem - once someone has spent a few hundred bucks on iTunes content they'll never leave, because they add that value to offset the cost of a new phone. $900 iphone? pfft,i have $2K in iTunes, it might as well be free!"
on android, you can buy them from a dozen sources, pirate them, copy them from your PC - and you have infinite playback options. its simply too complex for people who bought the phone without knowing *WHY* they bought that phone, since they dont use most of its capabilities anyway. These are the common iSheep, the people who bought it because it's cool and looks fancy, but use it like a nokia.
Everyone i've converted from apple to samsung has followed the same path as well "why? this does the same things as my iphone, but the iphone is prettier and has itunes" - they do a direct comparison without even considering what the phone can do BEYOND the iphones capabilities. Showing them the S-pen, or directly playing files off my NAS/PC over wifi, or MHL/HDMI, or the note 4's super fast charging blows them away.
the iphone is the baseline, and they're so used to having just ONE choice that when presented with two or three or 10, they simply treat all the options as the same.
"i hate android" means "i used one android phone once, and they're all the same right?" - this also goes for themes, keyboards, stock apps and so on.
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they're so used to having just ONE choice that when presented with two or three or 10, they simply treat all the options as the same. "i hate android" means "i used one android phone once, and they're all the same right?"
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Pretty much. I was really over whelmed when I came back to Android. I was used to things just working out of the box. Now I have to rebuild my music collection from Google Play as that is eaiser then attempting to transfer from iTunes. Took a few days before I got the hang of flashing and building from source. Things have changed as if you keep in mind my iPhone is now just a really expensive GameBoy Advance and remote. My Note 4 is my daily driver.
So, on iPhone there is no proper PGP support, no NFC APIs (so no support for secure tokens such as Yubikey, or even NFC tags), no low level network APIs (so you can't implement your own protocol, such as OpenVPN).... (I could go on and on)
It seems like a no-go to me, it is pretty much locked down as well, even though you actually purchased the device you can't do anything on it that's not endorsed by Apple, that's why I strayed away from the iPhone in the first place (I used to own an iPhone 3GS, that's until I swiched to android and never came back).
As someone that works in IT, and need to handle sensitive data, iOS is just not the system for me.
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As someone that works in IT, and need to handle sensitive data, iOS is just not the system for me.
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But that's the thing of course. If you work in IT, you most probably want an android. However if you don't know sh*t about IT, which 98% of the people don't, an iphone really might be the better option. You dont have to worry about battery drains, wakelocks, background apps running, viruses, etc. It just does what it's supposed to do when a monkey operates it.
But if you're in IT, you most likely want to do some more stuff, go more in depth and then Android is clearly the OS of choice.
I like iphone coz everybody knows when u have an iphone.But you have to tell that you have a Note 4 coz there are hell lot of samsung mobile with similar looks.Also there is atleast 1 year surity that apple will not release another phone with similar looks.Also with some restrictions removed like access to files or install from external source could make apple on top.But guess this is how ios will be.Although I can now play movies & songs from external source by an app called xender atleast making it usable
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For me is simple, if I use iPhone I will become dump, if I use android I will be generous because android is for geek not for dump. Yes lol most of the people use apple iPhone but they are totally useless in technology. There are a lot of iPhone user who even don't know simple problems in smart phone world. My company have a lot of previous ios user try to use android and return back to iPhone because very simple problem in android (simple problem for android user) is bothering them, that android user can solve the problem in just few second. I have a lot of friends using iPhone and always come to me with some simple problem I just laugh and says only one word..... useless guys. They always says iPhone is very smart.. ha ha.. i always says ..yes you are dump and go study first.
I am not insulting them, I just want them to not blind and open eye, Technology is changing, iPhone is good but not perfect, android is good but not for normal user same as window phone.
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For me is simple, if I use iPhone I will become dump, if I use android I will be generous because android is for geek not for dump. Yes lol most of the people use apple iPhone but they are totally useless in technology. There are a lot of iPhone user who even don't know simple problem problem in smart phone world. My company have a lot of previous ios user try to use android and return back to iPhone because very simple problem in android (simple problem for android user) is bothering them, that android user can solve the problem in just few second. I have a lot of friends using iPhone and always come to me with some simple problem I just laugh and says only one word..... useless guys. They always says iPhone is very smart.. ha ha.. i always says ..yes you are dump and go study first.
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I do not intend to be rude, but in english the word dump means something different to the way you are using it. Perhaps you meant the word dumb?