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Camera, Huawei P9 or Samsung S7 Edge?

I need a new phone, and am currently interested in the Huawei P9 Plus or the Samsung S7 Edge.
The main tak of my new phone should be for video and photography (besides me using it as a phone )
Which one is the better camera?
Based on experience

For video the Samsung is the better phone (4K Video). Based on reading the spec sheets.

Moreover the S7E has the optical image stabilization (OIS) that is very useful especially for video recording.
And now the international unbranded S7E can be found with a price slightly lower than the P9+.

Huawei P9 plus
I have used samsung for 6 years .. I never saw any of their cameras that can match that of the P9 or P9 plus .
The P9 line has the Leica double lens technology , it does not need OIS to perform in a superior way .. I am now the proud owner of the P9 plus ..

Video- s7 edge
Photo - p9 plus
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Craleb said:
Video- s7 edge
Photo - p9 plus
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Hello Craleb,
Why do you say that? Is that based on personal experience, or is that based om comparing the specs of both phone?

CheopsChefren said:
Hello Craleb,
Why do you say that? Is that based on personal experience, or is that based om comparing the specs of both phone?
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Personal experience here:
Video : S7 Edge => OIS is a win. P9 Plus come with digital IS but your video will still be choppier and trimmed due to the technology.
Photo : S7 Edge => Much superior autofocus and low-light performance (f/1.7). Both perform admirably during daytime so the difference here come down pretty much to personal preference. I personally like the Leica interface and some of the modes come with that (shoot first, focus later, filters, light photography, night mode etc). P9 tends to get a little too grainy during low-light shots and slow to get a focus on things.
Black&White Photography : P9 Plus, hands down. No B&W filter can come close to the level of details and contrast that the dedicated cam on the P9 Plus can bring. The result is just gorgeous even when you shoot the most random stuff.
As far as the potential of the tech go, P9 Plus has much more potential. The post processing and the lowlight performance can theoretically be improved with a software update but I wont hold my hope for that. As is now, the S7 Edge still has the edge (forgive the pun) when you consider the overall performance for things you use daily. So unless you are a big fan of B&W photography, pick the Edge.

Great review. That confirms pretty much the general opinion on the online reviews I've read elsewhere. Have you played with RAW images at all? Just wondering if that improves things.

The S7 is sharp, detailed and hard to fault
but the P9 has its charms. It leans heavily on artistic styling, where image fidelity comes second. sometimes it has trouble focusing and without ois blur is fairly common in low light situations.

Some people look Samsung oversharpening filter as more detail... but it's really exaggerated on S7/S7E.

psychok9 said:
Some people look Samsung oversharpening filter as more detail... but it's really exaggerated on S7/S7E.
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yer that's valid. tbh the output from the S7 cam doesn't show any improvement over the S6
compared side by side when zoomed right in, P9 pics do show a noticeable lack of detail however

yellowchilli said:
yer that's valid. tbh the output from the S7 cam doesn't show any improvement over the S6
compared side by side when zoomed right in, P9 pics do show a noticeable lack of detail however
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I don't know, some people use auto mode rather than night mode in low light... I have some doubts about it.
In good light it seems great.
I would test it

psychok9 said:
I don't know, some people use auto mode rather than night mode in low light... I have some doubts about it.
In good light it seems great.
I would test it
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One thing to consider regarding the P9 camera is that it has issues with popular apps. As of today, the camera doesn't work properly with WhatsApp or Snapchat. You get odd issues like auto zoom, slowmo videos, audio issues.....and no update from Huawei to fix.

mabco said:
One thing to consider regarding the P9 camera is that it has issues with popular apps. As of today, the camera doesn't work properly with WhatsApp or Snapchat. You get odd issues like auto zoom, slowmo videos, audio issues.....and no update from Huawei to fix.
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dont have those problem with whatsapp. Dont use snapchat so i cant say anything about it.
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Samsung can shoot 120 and 240 fps. Big deal for slow mo lovers.

Huawei p9 plus destroys samsung s7 edge in terms of camera,p9 plus can do manual configuration,just need to study about iso,exposure,shutter etc. just like DSLR,if auto i take S7 edge,but if manual mode,Big YES for Huawei P9 Plus.

P10 Plus Camera Thread

As there seems to not be a camera thread yet, here's one to get us started. I have had my P10 Plus in the UK from its release through carphone warehouse.
I had the p8, P9, p10 and this definitely is the model to get if you are interested in its camera capability.
I took this pic last night through my kitchen window (was very windy outside) propped up against the window pane using the light trails option. Not the best example but I am impressed by its potential for use in night photography.
Great camera phone both day and night.

And now compare it in .raw format with at least the P9, and when others with a Mate 9 join let's compare against those as well. The hardware isn't that much different from Mate 9, for a much higher price. So saying that this is the model to get would be a bit wrong IMHO.

I look to be getting one of these pretty soon if TWRP and ROOT is already available... So i'll reserve this spot and later edit with my pictures.

Swan Princess said:
And now compare it in .raw format with at least the P9, and when others with a Mate 9 join let's compare against hose as well. The hardware isn't that much different from Mate 9, for a much higher price. So saying that this is the model to get would be a bit wrong IMHO.
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I disagree... I was talking about the camera specifically. I had the mate 9 and I do rather prefer the p10 plus for sure. There's a distinct difference in quality especially in low light.
So on that note my comment still stands...in your eyes wrong but not in mine.

A couple of day shots from beamish museum at the weekend.

Just a random shot to see if it can handle the sky
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Here's a couple of shots in auto, both black and white then colour. Both focus and exposure smack in the middle of the light.

Again all untouched straight out of camera. Light was really bright and harsh today, plus handled it pretty well. Lots of detail to be had.

Scann69 said:
Just a random shot to see if it can handle the sky
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Nice Cu/Cb clouds! I'd like the .raw for it, if you have one. Storms are <3

Here's a couple I took last weekend. Not difficult lighting or anything but just nice sharp images.
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Swan Princess said:
Nice Cu/Cb clouds! I'd like the .raw for it, if you have one. Storms are <3
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Thanks but i don't have the .raw file as i did not enable it on my device.
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Scann69 said:
Thanks but i don't have the .raw file as i did not enable it on my device.
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What a shame! Whenever and wherever, please always try to shoot in raw. Such a great feature of the cameras shouldn't go wasted!

Swan Princess said:
What a shame! Whenever and wherever, please always try to shoot in raw. Such a great feature of the cameras shouldn't go wasted!
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Most people won't shoot in raw. However, I do agree raw is generally the way to go and the P10 series captures a lot of data with raw. This is a shot from my Mate 9 original taken in raw.
Frosty morning on Dartmoor #huaweimate9 by Gavin Fabiani-Laymond, on Flickr

stargate1000 said:
I disagree... I was talking about the camera specifically. I had the mate 9 and I do rather prefer the p10 plus for sure. There's a distinct difference in quality especially in low light.
So on that note my comment still stands...in your eyes wrong but not in mine.
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Hi what differences have "your eyes" observed? i curious cause i have a mate 9 and am about ready to pull the trigger on a p10 plus.

shanec2k3 said:
Hi what differences have "your eyes" observed? i curious cause i have a mate 9 and am about ready to pull the trigger on a p10 plus.
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The P10 plus definitely has cleaner, brighter and more detailed low light shots compared to the mate 9 (not saying the mate 9 is bad at all by the way).

Here are just a few of mine, I adore the camera on this phone.

gavinfabl said:
Most people won't shoot in raw. However, I do agree raw is generally the way to go and the P10 series captures a lot of data with raw. This is a shot from my Mate 9 original taken in raw.
Frosty morning on Dartmoor #huaweimate9 by Gavin Fabiani-Laymond, on Flickr
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That looks amazing!

how do i enable raw mode?..i dont see any option under camera...

doki81 said:
how do i enable raw mode?..i dont see any option under camera...
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When your in auto mode simply swipe up from the bottom of the screen - you will see a little solid line to pull up.

stargate1000 said:
When your in auto mode simply swipe up from the bottom of the screen - you will see a little solid line to pull up.
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ok..found this option...only accessible when in pro mode then swipe the right edge for option.. thx!

Google Camera Port by miniuser123

Hey there,
I used to use the @miniuser123 Google Camera Port for Exynos on my S8+.
Since the original port only supported snapdragon devices this guy figured he might aswell port it for other chipsets (exynos).
Surprisingly this version also works on my Mate 10 Pro BLA-L29.
The HDR+ although has a blueish tint, maybe this will work in the future since the pictures (portraits i took) look a lot more detailed.
Its like Googles post-processing utilizes your sensor much better. Especially when zooming in I can see a lot more detail in my hair and texture on my jacket.
Go check it out, maybe he will release a fix for this blueish tint if we ask nicely.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8/themes/google-camera-app-portrait-mode-rear-t3732762
PS: I like to take portraits with the rear cam since its much better quality on any phone... check it out even though the color arent right, the quality is much better imo.

Can you please specify the version you used and the settings please.

It also works on Mate 10 ALP-L29 except the blueish tint issue.

not working on mate 10 ALP-L09C432... dont even finish installation

valerio.tosti said:
Can you please specify the version you used and the settings please.
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V4,
Settings are the standard ones, recommended by miniuser123.

Hi, how do you verify its taking pictures in hdr+?
On my previous phone where its fully working once I take a picture and switch to preview, there'll be a processing time of about 5 secs and it will say "processing" on top of the screen but I don't find all these in this version.
Thanks for any help

On regular Mate 10 is working, but really bad, flash is out of sync and pictures are awfull indors with low light.

lopusina said:
On regular Mate 10 is working, but really bad, flash is out of sync and pictures are awfull indors with low light.
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+1 here. But I also noticed that its the case with any other app apart from the Huawei stock camera app.
If you try taking a pic with flash on WhatsApp or Viber you will notice the same issue.

V6 doesn't work on my device m10p. Blackscreen :crying:

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V6 doesn't work on my device m10p. Blackscreen :crying:
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I am using the v4 still

@miniuser123 would you be able to take a look? Thanks!

Hey, just wanted to share some samples. since i do not want to show my face i simply zoomed in on the hair, you can see how much it differs.
Left gcam, right stock cam
also the lighting is much better and you can actually see the texture (pores etc) of my skin. The stock cam makes my skin washed out (beauty on 0)

Any update about this camera? I tried v4 but I really don't like the blue tint on portraits... Except that, it works fabulously!

mariosun38 said:
Any update about this camera? I tried v4 but I really don't like the blue tint on portraits... Except that, it works fabulously!
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As I said, in gallery I adjust settings, skin tone up, saturation up, color temp up
Seems a lot of work but I only use it sometimes for portraits so I can live with it.

Mate 10 Pro BLA-L29
I just tried it on my Mate 10 Pro BLA-L29 with stock EMUI 8.0.0 and sadly it just shows up a black screen ...

Hannestilt said:
I just tried it on my Mate 10 Pro BLA-L29 with stock EMUI 8.0.0 and sadly it just shows up a black screen ...
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Change to Selfiecam and than back to the main camera.

Yeah, finally found a version that works partially on my Mate 10 Pro (Kirin 970).
GoogleCamera-Pixel2Mod-Arnova8G2-V7beta-2.apk is amazingly fast.
So far the Portrait Mode is already working on front an back. But it lags a bit of saturation, i don't know, maybe because of the secondary monochrom camera.
The other problem is the pink tint in the highlights.
And i can't find a way to enable the hdr+ toggle in the interface.
@Arnova8G2 Do you think there a way to fix that? It would be so awesome, it works as fast as on Pixel2XL!

madphone said:
Yeah, finally found a version that works partially on my Mate 10 Pro (Kirin 970).
GoogleCamera-Pixel2Mod-Arnova8G2-V7beta-2.apk is amazingly fast.
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Can't find this version, could you tell me where you found it?

Wildfear said:
Can't find this version, could you tell me where you found it?
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It's from the Xiaomi Mi 6 thread.
Here you go: https://drive.google.com/open?id=16iKsF2RpHAixxcAkne_kyS9VuWFg0zc3

madphone said:
It's from the Xiaomi Mi 6 thread.
Here you go: https://drive.google.com/open?id=16iKsF2RpHAixxcAkne_kyS9VuWFg0zc3
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Thank, meanwhile I got it on my own
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi...era-modded-t3591177/post75748915#post75748915

Moto G5s Plus correct camera sensor and chipset

Hello everyone!
Creating this thread in order to clarify some details about our device.
I recently bought it (Europe version-xt1085,3Gb RAM/32gb) but instead of a SD625 it has a SD626. How is it possible? And giving the fact that there are rumors that also note that our camera sensor is a Sony IMX 258 Bayer and not a samsung CMOS makes me doubt much of the initial information provided or found. Can somebody please post different screenshots from the first page of CPU-Z and also to check system/etc/camera for camera msm Sanders XML for those who have the device rooted? I do not want to root it yet as Oreo updates are rolling in a couple of days.
I also want to find a solution to exceed the limitations of the software processing of the camera to the full potential of the sensor (if it is a Sony one indeed).
Thank you

Also take a look at the attachment.

Ok

SD 626 too

Mine also says Snapdragon 626, it's a CPU-Z bug. But regarding the camera sensor I have no idea if there's any way to improve the image quality via modifying the image processing.

Aptony said:
SD 626 too
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Do you have a XT1085 or XT1084?
And could you please pull out the files i requested?
The ones in the camera foldee that write Msm sanders or so. The ones who show the real camera sensor.

AhReLocazo said:
Mine also says Snapdragon 626, it's a CPU-Z bug. But regarding the camera sensor I have no idea if there's any way to improve the image quality via modifying the image processing.
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I checked with different applications. You might be right. It is very odd tho.
What about the camera files?
If you go to Moto G5 Plus's theming and modding forum, you'll see a thread explaining how. And how it gives rise to possibilities of other devices as well.

Sniper Killer said:
I checked with different applications. You might be right. It is very odd tho.
What about the camera files?
If you go to Moto G5 Plus's theming and modding forum, you'll see a thread explaining how. And how it gives rise to possibilities of other devices as well.
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Mine is an XT1806, and it's not rooted so I don't think I can get those files. Let me see

Sniper Killer said:
Do you have a XT1085 or XT1084?
And could you please pull out the files i requested?
The ones in the camera foldee that write Msm sanders or so. The ones who show the real camera sensor.
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XT1800 Latam

Aptony said:
XT1800 Latam
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I just checked the file. It shows S5K8L3 which unfortunately is a ****ty Samsung CMOS sensor. I don't think there is much to be done with this sensor. We're ****ed.

Sniper Killer said:
I just checked the file. It shows S5K8L3 which unfortunately is a ****ty Samsung CMOS sensor. I don't think there is much to be done with this sensor. We're ****ed.
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Btw I remember you from the Galaxy Ace i days

Aptony said:
Btw I remember you from the Galaxy Ace i days
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Wow that is so nice! And nostalgic. Its been a few years of my absence. I am back with this device now and it is intriguing me a lot to develop again. Currently waiting for the Oreo update and then I'll do my full research on the device.

Sniper Killer said:
I just checked the file. It shows S5K8L3 which unfortunately is a ****ty Samsung CMOS sensor. I don't think there is much to be done with this sensor. We're ****ed.
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Are you sure thats not the selfie cam? Pretty sure the dual camera has been 100% confirmed a sony sensor already
(Link) This guy contacted moto directly and they said it was the IMX258 / IMX258 Mono

William1020000 said:
Are you sure thats not the selfie cam? Pretty sure the dual camera has been 100% confirmed a sony sensor already
(Link) This guy contacted moto directly and they said it was the IMX258 / IMX258 Mono
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You can see clearly the name S5K3L8 as the rear sensor (mono&rgb). And at the other screenshot, the name S5K4H8 which is a selfie samsung sensor. You can google both of these sensors and their details are going to match our device's details.
There are also two files of the IMX258 in the camera folder but they're useless or maybe they put it to fake the users who, like me and many more, would be pissed off if they found out what a crap of a sensor they would have in their device.
The dev of the camera improvements of G5 Plus told me that the only way of improving it is by copying the tuning of other S5K3L8 sensors used in other devices. But it is used in Xiaomi Redmi 4 and its camera is worse than ours so i don't think that is going to be a good idea. Another way actually is by modifying the libs yourself. Which i cannot do at the moment.
Just use Google Camera for taking pictures atm. Its HDR+ mode is a touch of magic.

Sniper Killer said:
You can see clearly the name S5K3L8 as the rear sensor (mono&rgb). And at the other screenshot, the name S5K4H8 which is a selfie samsung sensor. You can google both of these sensors and their details are going to match our device's details.
There are also two files of the IMX258 in the camera folder but they're useless or maybe they put it to fake the users who, like me and many more, would be pissed off if they found out what a crap of a sensor they would have in their device.
The dev of the camera improvements of G5 Plus told me that the only way of improving it is by copying the tuning of other S5K3L8 sensors used in other devices. But it is used in Xiaomi Redmi 4 and its camera is worse than ours so i don't think that is going to be a good idea. Another way actually is by modifying the libs yourself. Which i cannot do at the moment.
Just use Google Camera for taking pictures atm. Its HDR+ mode is a touch of magic.
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The only way to confirm properly is to look at the hardware. Any idea where we may be able to find images of just the Samsung camera module so I can compare it the the one in my G5S+?
To be honest I'm very happy with the way my HDR+ photos turn out.
My family are convinced this has a better camera than the iPhone SE from using gcam, so the phone must be somewhat capable of good photos Low light photos are crap though, tons of noise.
EDIT: Samsung specs say the S5K3L8 sensor is capable of only 30fps. Given we can record 1080p/60fps maybe it isn't that sensor?

That's strange, my g5s plus can only shoot 1080p/30fps. I don't know if it was after the latest camera update or not.
Edit: my mistake, apparently i was looking at the front camera settings. The rear camera can shot 1080p/60 just fine and are up to 30fps 4k

William1020000 said:
The only way to confirm properly is to look at the hardware. Any idea where we may be able to find images of just the Samsung camera module so I can compare it the the one in my G5S+?
To be honest I'm very happy with the way my HDR+ photos turn out.
My family are convinced this has a better camera than the iPhone SE from using gcam, so the phone must be somewhat capable of good photos Low light photos are crap though, tons of noise.
EDIT: Samsung specs say the S5K3L8 sensor is capable of only 30fps. Given we can record 1080p/60fps maybe it isn't that sensor?
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The samsung sensor is capable of shooting 4k videos but it is not enabled in most devices that are using it. For example in Xiaomi Redmi devices. I do not know precisely why and how but any speculation would bring no improvement to the camera whatsoever.

Is it possible to install newer GCams (5.1<)on rooted p30 pro?

Hello guys.
Me and my friend bought two huawei phones, nova 5t and p30 pro, and then we realized we can't use gcam on neither of the phones because huawei limited the camera2api and worse, huawei will not give you unlock code for bootloader and...
So the question is, if we can get the code, then somehow root the device and enable camera2api, is there a way to install newer versions of GCam with HDR+ and nightsight? Or because of the kirin processor, it is pointless?
We have both android 10 with emui 10
Thanks.

Not sure about if camera2api can be enabled by achieving root or by using a custom kernel, I will let devs answer on this one.
I found that the new Google camera Go works perfectly on my P30 EMUI 10 all is good and portrait works, except no HDR, no video recording. However I'm not sure if quality is better than stock app
https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/dev-parrot043/

korom42 said:
...... I found that the new Google camera Go works perfectly...... except no HDR, no video recording. However I'm not sure if quality is better than stock app
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Not working perfectly then.
So why bother?

korom42 said:
Not sure about if camera2api can be enabled by achieving root or by using a custom kernel, I will let devs answer on this one.
I found that the new Google camera Go works perfectly on my P30 EMUI 10 all is good and portrait works, except no HDR, no video recording. However I'm not sure if quality is better than stock app
https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/dev-parrot043/
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Do you mean enabling cam2api is impossible for this specific phones? Because there is a lot of guides are out there for doing this task on other phones. And even there is some dedicated apps for checking and enabling after root.

Im so disappointed buying this phone really,
Is it so hard really? no progress att all since huawei not provide the codes?

Why disappointed, Huawei camera app it's one of the best apps out there ,a lot of features nice quality,AI works great and can recognize a lot of scenarios i have one year with my P30 pro and im very happy and Huawei night mode it's one of the best out there
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Im so disappointed buying this phone really,
Is it so hard really? no progress att all since huawei not provide the codes?
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Huawei will not provide you with any code since they will not unlock the bootloader and they do it for a good reason ,for more security Everything it's encrypted by default and your personal data and things are safe.

l2ezad said:
Im so disappointed buying this phone really,
Is it so hard really? no progress att all since huawei not provide the codes?
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This is why people should do research first before buying or it will ended up like this...

xhoi287 said:
Why disappointed, Huawei camera app it's one of the best apps out there ,a lot of features nice quality,AI works great and can recognize a lot of scenarios i have one year with my P30 pro and im very happy and Huawei night mode it's one of the best out there
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Huawei will not provide you with any code since they will not unlock the bootloader and they do it for a good reason ,for more security Everything it's encrypted by default and your personal data and things are safe.
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Exactly... There's one channel on YouTube and he literally have every possible way to make best pic on p30pro in each mode. He making moon pics with "AI" off. You can make really good photos in Pro mode so please, stop complaining. Overhauled Samsung s20 Ultra supposed to have 5z optical zoom but have like 3.7x and came out one year later. Huawei have worse stabilisation because on s20u videos with stabilisation looks really amazing. You can run and this thing working so well that it's like you riding skateboard. Yes, it have 8k but its 24fps and grainy. You should be happy with your phone.

"There's one channel on YouTube and he literally have every possible way to make best pic on p30pro in each mode."
would you mind sharing the channel?
Thanks!

korom42 said:
I found that the new Google camera Go works perfectly on my P30 EMUI 10 all is good and portrait works, except no HDR, no video recording. However I'm not sure if quality is better than stock app
https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/dev-parrot043/
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Have you updated to EMUI 10.1, does this work on updated version?