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P9 Lite "plastic flat" camera jpegs (P9 Lite vs P8 Lite comparison)

Just done the "in good light" comparison of camera in P9 Lite vs P8 Lite and... there is no detail in P9 Lite
Everything looks plastic and flat, little details are gone due to strong and agressive demosaic alghoritm in P9 Lite jpeg engine.
P8 Lite is far far better in image quality
Here is the comparison, please view it in 100% and just look for structure in this paving
https://s32.postimg.org/xp9jtww4z/structural.png
Please look close at the structure of the paving.
The same same happens with grass or leaves or forests in landscape and every minor detail in pictures done with P9 Lite
You can also see the "plastic flat" pictures done with P9 Lite in this comparison
http://www.tabletowo.pl/2016/06/15/fotograficzne-porownanie-huawei-p9-vs-huawei-p9-lite/
Do You think will be there any update of camera firmware or some RAW saving option or just some presets or settings with detail structure to restore small details?

ring.ring said:
Just done the "in good light" comparison of camera in P9 Lite vs P8 Lite and... there is no detail in P9 Lite
Everything looks plastic and flat, little details are gone due to strong and agressive demosaic alghoritm in P9 Lite jpeg engine.
P8 Lite is far far better in image quality
Here is the comparison, please view it in 100% and just look for structure in this paving
https://s32.postimg.org/xp9jtww4z/structural.png
Please look close at the structure of the paving.
The same same happens with grass or leaves or forests in landscape and every minor detail in pictures done with P9 Lite
You can also see the "plastic flat" pictures done with P9 Lite in this comparison
http://www.tabletowo.pl/2016/06/15/fotograficzne-porownanie-huawei-p9-vs-huawei-p9-lite/
Do You think will be there any update of camera firmware or some RAW saving option or just some presets or settings with detail structure to restore small details?
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I didn't test p9 lite camera in good light conditions, but from my opinion, it sucks....
In every photo is a terrible lack of detail and a good amount of noise.
I've tested "pro mode" on 2 software version b104 and b131 which I've received earlier today.
Change log don't provide any information about camera improvements.
About raw... Definitely isn't an option for this device.

lzimbrea said:
I tested Open Camera , and after I've enabled camera 2 api I was able to save raw files
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God bless You! Now I can use the Lightroom and the other software

Is there any chance for newer updates that fix the jpeg engine?

Marakora said:
Is there any chance for newer updates that fix the jpeg engine?
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In the new update, they will fix this bug.
And that update will be Android N

Johnny TDN said:
In the new update, they will fix this bug.
And that update will be Android N
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sir, is that true? They will fix the camera and the bad quality of the photos ?

yordan.86 said:
sir, is that true? They will fix the camera and the bad quality of the photos ?
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I'm not sure.
It matters HOW you take the pictures

yordan.86 said:
sir, is that true? They will fix the camera and the bad quality of the photos ?
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Honestly, I doubt it. There were no users that complained to Huawei directly, so I think it won't be resolved.
I remember for one of my previous devices, Xperia M2, Lollipop update messed up the camera quality, so I, and a number of other users, complained to Sony, and they rolled out a specific update that solved the issue.
Personally, if you "take care" of how you shoot photos, results can be amazing.

Johnny TDN said:
I'm not sure.
It matters HOW you take the pictures
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Memovic said:
Honestly, I doubt it. There were no users that complained to Huawei directly, so I think it won't be resolved.
I remember for one of my previous devices, Xperia M2, Lollipop update messed up the camera quality, so I, and a number of other users, complained to Sony, and they rolled out a specific update that solved the issue.
Personally, if you "take care" of how you shoot photos, results can be amazing.
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hello and thank you for answers, i have the phone for two weeks and i tried all settings, the the i have the same opinion like OP i had alot of phones, perosnaly i like this one, but the camera just killed me, my previous phones were lenovo k4, huawei p8lite, lg d820, sony z2 and i stoped on p9 lite, the p9 lite have the worst camera actually the p9 lite have more similar camera to xperia z2, im going to complain now on huawei website, i hope someone follow me so they can do something, its amazing phone but the camera just remove the stars from the phone.

Wtf dude, daytime camera is freakin' awesome, and I had LG G3 and Xperia Z3 before this. Nighttime camera is excellent with Pro or Night mode. Calm your tits.

yordan.86 said:
hello and thank you for answers, i have the phone for two weeks and i tried all settings, the the i have the same opinion like OP i had alot of phones, perosnaly i like this one, but the camera just killed me, my previous phones were lenovo k4, huawei p8lite, lg d820, sony z2 and i stoped on p9 lite, the p9 lite have the worst camera actually the p9 lite have more similar camera to xperia z2, im going to complain now on huawei website, i hope someone follow me so they can do something, its amazing phone but the camera just remove the stars from the phone.
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It isnt that bad. And what do you except from a budget phone? And I barely make any photos so Im all happy about this device.
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Memovic said:
Wtf dude, daytime camera is freakin' awesome, and I had LG G3 and Xperia Z3 before this. Nighttime camera is excellent with Pro or Night mode. Calm your tits.
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fisrt of all, hello!
Second, its rude to talk like this, did you see for what OP is complaining, THIS IS THE PROBLEM, thats why i and other people discuss this, the camera is not good, i had p8 lite and like in the photo the camera of p8 lite is better and with strong detail and contrast, not to mention rich colors, like you see is not only me, if you have something useful to say let me read it, otherwise your opinion dont matter, and again look at the OP photos to see diffrence.

Hi, everyone.
I agree, for me, oficial camera overprocess and get plastic efect on low ligth conditions. I try many camera apps ( proshot, footej camera, snap camera, htc10 camera , google camera, freedcam) and all they get TOO MUCH noise in all conditions. In official camera, obviously the overprocess is for erase the noise , but you get plastic efect, and other apps, get more detailed images but very noisy in all conditions even day light.
Its my experience, hope some app could process and disapear noise with out plastic efect.
Sorry for my english

Johnny TDN said:
In the new update, they will fix this bug.
And that update will be Android N
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heribruc said:
Hi, everyone.
I agree, for me, oficial camera overprocess and get plastic efect on low ligth conditions. I try many camera apps ( proshot, footej camera, snap camera, htc10 camera , google camera, freedcam) and all they get TOO MUCH noise in all conditions. In official camera, obviously the overprocess is for erase the noise , but you get plastic efect, and other apps, get more detailed images but very noisy in all conditions even day light.
Its my experience, hope some app could process and disapear noise with out plastic efect.
Sorry for my english
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hello, you cant make better photos with apps, the problem is not the camera is the software wich stop the full potential of the camera, i send a complain to huawei about the problem, they send me mail to make hard reset and try pro mode, i tell them i tried everything the the result is the same, i chated with support of my coutry, they tell me that they will send that to huawei devs, suggest every one who own p9 lite to send a compalin, in other thread of xda are talking for the new andoird N but there is not fix for the camera.

The camera is good...other cams are just better...

Camera on nougat has improved ALOT

p9 lite camera supports Raw capture.just biy manual camera app and choose raw option

jody2k said:
Camera on nougat has improved ALOT
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can you make photos and show us ?
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x1988 said:
p9 lite camera supports Raw capture.just biy manual camera app and choose raw option
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strange i dont see it.

yordan.86 said:
can you make photos and show us ?
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strange i dont see it.
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Why dont you install and try it yourself?

jody2k said:
Why dont you install and try it yourself?
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im waiting the official update. i dont trust leaked versions.

Is there any GCam port for the P20 Pro?

I know that if you mess around with pro mode it can take outstanding photos but I want to improve the point and shoot skills of the P20 Pro, especially the front facing camera.

Also interested. I used it on my s8 and it was my go to camera.

I've tried handful of ported GCam-s, even the one that somehow worked on P10, but none of them work on P20

bicinitup said:
Also interested. I used it on my s8 and it was my go to camera.
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I find some posts saying that the Exynos port works with the Mate 10 pro. My P20 Pro hasn't arrived yet, but as soon as it arrives I'll test the ports. Could you test too?

JadranB said:
I've tried handful of ported GCam-s, even the one that somehow worked on P10, but none of them work on P20
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Have you tried any that works with the Mate 10 pro?

Ezito said:
Have you tried any that works with the Mate 10 pro?
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This is the only only one that doesn't actually crash, but hdr+ doesnt work, and I don't think that it works at all that well.
https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/...874.41362666__A7.0-8.1_MI5S_v2b_SG7Exy_v4.apk
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JadranB said:
This is the only only one that doesn't actually crash, but hdr+ doesnt work, and I don't think that it works at all that well.
https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/...874.41362666__A7.0-8.1_MI5S_v2b_SG7Exy_v4.apk
Sent from my HUAWEI CLT-L29 using XDA Labs
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Ok, I did some quick&dirty compaction, and this GCam port is not that bad at all. It has much more natural color rendering, and I would say that details at on pair with P20 pro cam in Pro mode on 10MP. Of course P20 Cam has much more tricks in its sleeve, like other modes etc. It would be best if you would try it yourself and see if it suits you

JadranB said:
This is the only only one that doesn't actually crash, but hdr+ doesnt work, and I don't think that it works at all that well.
https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/...874.41362666__A7.0-8.1_MI5S_v2b_SG7Exy_v4.apk
Sent from my HUAWEI CLT-L29 using XDA Labs
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Ok, I did some quick&dirty compaction, and this GCam port is not that bad at all. It has much more natural color rendering, and I would say that details at on pair with P20 pro cam in Pro mode on 10MP. Of course P20 Cam has much more tricks in its sleeve, like other modes etc. It would be best if you would try it yourself and see if it suits you
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Can you post some comparison?

Sadly front camera not working. Main reason I wanted it. Anyone know a dev that may help?

Ezito said:
Can you post some comparison?
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I tried it again this morning, but sadly it doesn't work any more. Just chrashes
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subscribed. Have been using ported gcams on my LG G6, V30, Note 8... can't beat google's post processing magic. Will definitely look to get it for my P20 pro as well, once someone ports it over.

+1 for this pleasssseeeeeeee

bicinitup said:
Sadly front camera not working. Main reason I wanted it. Anyone know a dev that may help?
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Front camera works on HuaweibP20 pro
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Sadly front camera not working. Main reason I wanted it. Anyone know a dev that may help?
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Front camera works on HuaweibP20 pro
Update:
But now the camera app crashes and wont open anymore

yeah, waiting for an update to Huawei P20 PRO for hdr+ gcam

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1x9Nnk4OpySU4IE4_4Wux07ybjEYIF2Pr/view?usp=sharing
Try this it works perfectly with both cams front and rear but without hdr

kgian2007 said:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1x9Nnk4OpySU4IE4_4Wux07ybjEYIF2Pr/view?usp=sharing
Try this it works perfectly with both cams front and rear but without hdr
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I get this error
There's a problem parsing with the package

@kgian2007
playstore version without hdr+ etc.

Any news here? does any of the existing ports work with Huawei P20 Pro?

all the pugs said:
Any news here? does any of the existing ports work with Huawei P20 Pro?
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Guessing we won't see a port with working HDR+ at least until/unless full or level 3 Camera2 API is supported.
Highly recommend checking out the HedgeCam 2 app in the Play Store (it's an Open Camera fork); processing is a bit slow but it takes really nice full 40mp hdr photos and gives a ton of control over exposure, sharpness and dynamic range (slower capture but much wider range -- almost night mode good -- with the Camera2 API setting off).

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Highly recommend checking out the HedgeCam 2 app in the Play Store (it's an Open Camera fork); processing is a bit slow but it takes really nice full 40mp hdr photos and gives a ton of control over exposure, sharpness and dynamic range (slower capture but much wider range -- almost night mode good -- with the Camera2 API setting off).
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thanks! Had been toying around with it but the results are very grainy and have color bands or tonal distortions. Not sure what I‘m doing wrong.

kgian2007 said:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1x9Nnk4OpySU4IE4_4Wux07ybjEYIF2Pr/view?usp=sharing
Try this it works perfectly with both cams front and rear but without hdr
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Thanks this one works really great! Where did you get it from? The only thing that does not works perfectly ist Video, it looks kinda stretched bc of the 18:9 Display but the Videos you take are 16:9 and not streched. Its just the Video 'preview' that does not work 100% perfect but overall a great port!

anyone used gcam?

Seems this forum is rather silent but has any a80 users tried a gcam?
It's the same sensor as the OP7 pro, zenfone 6 etc so hopeful someone has had some luck

AndroidUK2016 said:
Seems this forum is rather silent but has any a80 users tried a gcam?
It's the same sensor as the OP7 pro, zenfone 6 etc so hopeful someone has had some luck
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Just got the phone today and I'm using this GCAM port, for the S10 https://androidfilehost.com/?fid=1395089523397913303 it seems to work fine, haven't done any test, just a quick pic and it does seem better quality over the stock Samsung.
I've been using it for about 4 hours and the camera does not fully turn every time, most times it does, but I've had that happen a few times already, where it almost flips all the way to selfie mode, but stops at about 80% of the flip. Interested to know if this is common, I've seen a Youtuber with this issue as well, so just wondering if it's "normal" or not.

hugoprh said:
Just got the phone today and I'm using this GCAM port, for the S10 https://androidfilehost.com/?fid=1395089523397913303 it seems to work fine, haven't done any test, just a quick pic and it does seem better quality over the stock Samsung.
I've been using it for about 4 hours and the camera does not fully turn every time, most times it does, but I've had that happen a few times already, where it almost flips all the way to selfie mode, but stops at about 80% of the flip. Interested to know if this is common, I've seen a Youtuber with this issue as well, so just wondering if it's "normal" or not.
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I'm using the latest arnova on my sd55 10 plus and it seems to work without issue

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I'm using the latest arnova on my sd55 10 plus and it seems to work without issue
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Had a bit more time to test it out and wow, GCam for the win, the difference is massive in low light, stock camera is very noisy, GCam, clean pic, makes this a great camera phone now.

AndroidUK2016 said:
Seems this forum is rather silent but has any a80 users tried a gcam?
It's the same sensor as the OP7 pro, zenfone 6 etc so hopeful someone has had some luck
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The latest Gcam based on the Pixel 4's sensor works much better. I spent a lot of time trying and getting the best out of this sensor. Might compare it to the iP11Pro soon.

Xtergo said:
The latest Gcam based on the Pixel 4's sensor works much better. I spent a lot of time trying and getting the best out of this sensor. Might compare it to the iP11Pro soon.
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can you pm me a link to which one your using? thanks

My friend @Xtergo can you give as a link for the Pixel 4 version you mentioned before?

already tried bsg arnova version & it's much better than stock in normal or portrait conditions but there's still missing features like live mode who give us actual bokeh effect. as far my experience gcam still lack on response time to open up / switching between mode camera maybe many more must be fixed considering that there has not been ported special for this device

Urynox Google Camera 7 for Samsung Galaxy A80
Almost all modes work

Hi guys, a have running Gcam for A70 (downloaded from same forum) in my A80 without problems its very good the Android 10 version, all right.

Can anyone post pics taken with GCAM especially the night sight pics

Why there are no GCAM mods for every Xperia flagship starting from XZ1?! A year ago there's a working GCAM for my Xperia X dual! Someone should request the developers to make mod for XZ1, XZ1C, XZ2, XZ2C, XZ3, XZ2P!
Yeah i know there's no connection to title and the description message!

sandeepxperia said:
Why there are no GCAM mods for every Xperia flagship starting from XZ1?! A year ago there's a working GCAM for my Xperia X dual! Someone should request the developers to make mod for XZ1, XZ1C, XZ2, XZ2C, XZ3, XZ2P!
Yeah i know there's no connection to title and the description message!
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Simple answer being Sony devices have a small user base compared to others, no point investing time

Mackay53 said:
Simple answer being Sony devices have a small user base compared to others, no point investing time
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For the sake of Sony fans, developers should share their interest in Sony mobiles. Pleaaaaseeeeee ohhh goddd. Please someone make MOD for all of these devices. Please someone care about Sony users. ?????

sandeepxperia said:
For the sake of Sony fans, developers should share their interest in Sony mobiles. Pleaaaaseeeeee ohhh goddd. Please someone make MOD for all of these devices. Please someone care about Sony users.
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All simply because gcam is ridiculous compared to stock. Much more noise, smoothing of the photo, overesposition, mediocre quality in night photo ... The tests were done with GCAM 5 which is in a discussion on the forum...
In my opinion the reduction of raw noise is incompatible with gcam. The photos taken with gcam have almost the same quality as with open camera.

doungmli said:
All simply because gcam is ridiculous compared to stock. Much more noise, smoothing of the photo, overesposition, mediocre quality in night photo ... The tests were done with GCAM 5 which is in a discussion on the forum...
In my opinion the reduction of raw noise is incompatible with gcam. The photos taken with gcam have almost the same quality as with open camera.
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Why why but why? Why is it happening to only Sony devices?

sandeepxperia said:
For the sake of Sony fans, developers should share their interest in Sony mobiles. Pleaaaaseeeeee ohhh goddd. Please someone make MOD for all of these devices. Please someone care about Sony users.
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There's already a port for gcam on xperia 1, however it's gcam 5, so no night sight yet.
It'll come eventually (or not). Just a matter of patience. If you want gcam so bad, then get another phone or get a pixel.

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Why why but why? Why is it happening to only Sony devices?
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gcam is not necessarily better it may change for low-end smartphones but in high-end smartphones the results were worse with gcam than the Stock camera. gcam will work like any open camera and will never have the code and therefore the optimizations related to the camera. on the screen of the smartphones it looks good but on a larger screen we directly see the loss of quality with gcam

sandeepxperia said:
Why there are no GCAM mods for every Xperia flagship starting from XZ1?! A year ago there's a working GCAM for my Xperia X dual! Someone should request the developers to make mod for XZ1, XZ1C, XZ2, XZ2C, XZ3, XZ2P!
Yeah i know there's no connection to title and the description message!
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Maybe because these ports are done via the good will and graciousness of the developers, who often do this for free, on their own time? Don't be immature about this. It takes work, and just because your particular phone isn't supported doesn't mean that people aren't trying to get it to work.

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Maybe because these ports are done via the good will and graciousness of the developers, who often do this for free, on their own time? Don't be immature about this. It takes work, and just because your particular phone isn't supported doesn't mean that people aren't trying to get it to work.
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I haven't asked it particularly for my mobile. The thing is i haven't asked at all for my mobile. I just said there are no GCAM mods at all for at least a single Sony flagship. I never demanded i am saying that just request the developers!

Can't force any developer to support an specific device. Like some people already mention, there isn't really an improvement using gcam over the stock camera (maybe there is certain circumstances that get better results, but nothing really special). Xperia 1 camera already is great. I haven't tested much the gcam version already available, will try today some night scenes
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Why there are no GCAM mods for every Xperia flagship starting from XZ1?! A year ago there's a working GCAM for my Xperia X dual! Someone should request the developers to make mod for XZ1, XZ1C, XZ2, XZ2C, XZ3, XZ2P!
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There are gcam version for that phones (just yesterday tested the XZ1 version) BUT gcam only supports AOSP custom roms, and nothing stock based. With the Xperia 1 onwards, there is API 2 support, and gcam works in stock.
XZ1 GCam take worse photos than stock

snake218 said:
Can't force any developer to support an specific device. Like some people already mention, there isn't really an improvement using gcam over the stock camera (maybe there is certain circumstances that get better results, but nothing really special). Xperia 1 camera already is great. I haven't tested much the gcam version already available, will try today some night scenes
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There are gcam version for that phones (just yesterday tested the XZ1 version) BUT gcam only supports AOSP custom roms, and nothing stock based. With the Xperia 1 onwards, there is API 2 support, and gcam works in stock.
XZ1 GCam take worse photos than stock
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Wow. Ok thanks for the info. Everyone says mobiles need API 2 support and i agree but i feel every Sony flagship supports that API 2 thing. I am saying this because i used a GCAM mod for my old Xperia X dual stock OS that actually worked. But the MOD doesn't had the Night Sight feature as it's an old version. i luckily somewhere found that MOD. It's a long time ago and there after i tried many GCAM versions and none of them worked. They just not opened even for a second.

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Wow. Ok thanks for the info. Everyone says mobiles need API 2 support and i agree but i feel every Sony flagship supports that API 2 thing. I am saying this because i used a GCAM mod for my old Xperia X dual stock OS that actually worked. But the MOD doesn't had the Night Sight feature as it's an old version. i luckily somewhere found that MOD. It's a long time ago and there after i tried many GCAM versions and none of them worked. They just not opened even for a second.
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Older gcam versions work. Even on XZP stock, gcam 4(?) was working. For the Xperia 1/5 we have Gcam 5 working. Either wait, donate to the dev to help support them, or create your own port.

Gcam video stabilization question

Hello. This is my first thread in XDA sooo... greetings! I'd just like to ask a quick question...
The video stabilization on my installed Gcam doesn't seem to work even though it is enabled in the settings. I tried different configuartions (1080p 60/30 fps, 4k 30/60fps) but still with no signs of stabilization.
The apk I installed is Gcam 7.2.010 Ver. 2.3 by urnyx05.
I was just wondering if there are other apks (for Mi 9T Pro) with working video stabilization or do i need to use Magisk or TWRP to make this work... or this feature doesn't work yet on Gcam ports just like the slowmotion feature.
I tried searching about this but with no luck (at least on Mi 9T Pro forums). That's why I made this thread as a last resort
Answers and suggestions are deeply appreciated!

Welcome to xda mate. I was looking for the same gcam and finally found one. Actually it doesn't work great in 60fps but still better at stabilization. It is the onfire version and here the link: https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/dev-onfire/

tunado said:
Welcome to xda mate. I was looking for the same gcam and finally found one. Actually it doesn't work great in 60fps but still better at stabilization. It is the onfire version and here the link: ***
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Thank you for the suggestion, but this port still doesn't seem to work on my phone, but its OK!
I actually found an apk that works for me and its still by urnyx. Apparently he has an updated version which fixes the EIS problem. It's this one: GCam_7.3.018_Urnyx05-v1.5.apk (I cant post links because I'm still a newbie, just search it). So EIS does work, it just depends on the port (and phone? lol), I think. Well that answers my question I guess :laugh: