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[Q] usb cable and current

Hi,
I have bought an usb cable on the market and i found it very slow to charge the phone compared to the lg cable. I found out that maybe it was because some usb output 1A, some 500ma, some 200ma.
Each time I ask a seller how much intensity the usb output, they don't know. How I am supposed to know this if I don't have a multimeter? (and a computer + 2 filaments each time I am in the market)
Thank you.

It depends on the charger, not the cable. Computer usb output is always 500ma
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Unless you have a new motherboard with a dedicated charging port, the max you can get over USB is 500mA.

Well well, this night I checked again if I was wrong and no.
Indeed, I charged my phone which was at 2%. It raised to around 70% in 7 hours! I used a market usb charger, in my pc usb port. And the phone was off (android not started).
Now, if I use my LG stock usb in the same usb port, I can charge at least 30% in 1~2 hours, phone with android started.
Moreover, I googled and found out that if you hacked you usb cable, something with the data pin thing, you can have an 1A current. So the 500mA is a specification limit, but in practice you can have more I think.
Or... maybe my phone displayed a wrong battery status? How can I know if I buy a cable, that it charges fast?

NONONONONONO!!!!
Do not try and draw more than 500mA from your USB port, this is a terrible idea, stop now.

I am not wanting to draw more than 500 mA, thank you for that. I know that it may break my usb card or something like that. No I just want to get an usb that charges my phone in one night. I have one cable that does that, one that doesn't. It means either:
case A:
Lg usb cable = 500 mA
cheap usb cable = 200mA
case B:
Lg usb cable = 1A
cheap usb cable = 500mA
case C:
my computer likes the Lg usb and gives it more current.

Yes, but turning your cable into a charge only cable (shorting the data pins) will make the phone think it's on AC when it's plugged into a USB port and try to draw 1A.

Well it is possible that you got lousy quality cable, meaning it has high resistance (bad copper quality, maybe it even isn't copper, who knows) and/or very thin wires inside, which makes it hard to transfer high current. Although 0,5 A is not really "high". This needs some measuring, but if you don't have multimeter and some practice with that, you're better of with new cable
I can recommend this one, charging with it right now: http://www.dealextreme.com/p/designer-s-micro-usb-data-cable-for-htc-g7-120cm-length-48714 - there are cheaper ones but wouldn't recommend. While you're at it, DX has some micro HDMI cables too

Out of curiosity, if your main concern is to charge your phone in 1 night then why not....
A. Use the supplied cable with your computer.
Or....
B. Use the supplied AC adapter.
Now for your question:
In my experience cheap cables typically don't work as well for either charging or data throughput as their higher quality counterparts. I have cut a few of them for various projects and cheap cables usually have cheap, high gauge wire (higher gauge wire means smaller diameter for anyone not familiar with the AWG standard.) The smaller diameter translates into higher resistance and ultimately lower current through the cable. That is probably why your phone charges slowly on the cheap cable.
As others have said its not recommended to modify the cable to draw more current. Best case it could cause something to stop working like the port on your computer or phone or the cable its self. Worst case it could cause an electrical fire.
If you want to test my hypothesis as well as another cable before you buy it then get a multimeter and test the resistance. I never cared enough to test my theory so it isn't confirmed, just a very probable theory (this is the same reason why really cheap jumper cables take a long time to jump start your car when higher quality ones generally let you start the car right away.) I would test for you on some usb cables I have laying around but my multimeter is burried somewhere in a box at the moment from when I moved.
Sent from my V6 Supercharged GSB Eris

Dac0908 said:
Well it is possible that you got lousy quality cable, meaning it has high resistance (bad copper quality, maybe it even isn't copper, who knows) and/or very thin wires inside, which makes it hard to transfer high current. Although 0,5 A is not really "high". This needs some measuring, but if you don't have multimeter and some practice with that, you're better of with new cable
I can recommend this one, charging with it right now: http://www.dealextreme.com/p/designer-s-micro-usb-data-cable-for-htc-g7-120cm-length-48714 - there are cheaper ones but wouldn't recommend. While you're at it, DX has some micro HDMI cables too
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Lol you posted this as I was typing my reply.
At the end of the day a high quality USB cable is not much more expensive than a low quality one. Its usually best to spend a little more for one that works as it should.
Edit* I looked back at the time stamp and I guess I just overlooked your post.
Sent from my V6 Supercharged GSB Eris

In DX case, there is 1$ difference between cheaper and ok quality cable. Not really worth to even think about it . I've got 2 of those, very satisfied.
Yesterday I forgot to charge my LG, it was completely empty and turned off when I woke up. Plugged in to PC via USB extender cable and it was charged to 50% in 3 hours while turned on, did some surfing, emails 'n stuff.

ergosum said:
Well well, this night I checked again if I was wrong and no.
Indeed, I charged my phone which was at 2%. It raised to around 70% in 7 hours! I used a market usb charger, in my pc usb port. And the phone was off (android not started).
Now, if I use my LG stock usb in the same usb port, I can charge at least 30% in 1~2 hours, phone with android started.
Moreover, I googled and found out that if you hacked you usb cable, something with the data pin thing, you can have an 1A current. So the 500mA is a specification limit, but in practice you can have more I think.
Or... maybe my phone displayed a wrong battery status? How can I know if I buy a cable, that it charges fast?
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There is a telling that says: "You get what you pay for"
The only reasons I can think of is that ether the cables contacts are broke, its poorly soldiered, and or they have used a extremely cheap metal inside it to make it cheaper. As most should have learned in school all electricity goes by V=R*I (almost all). By looking on that we easily see that the only possible way for it to be as you describe it is that the other cable have a lot more of resistance that "eats" up the electrical current.
Conclusion: Don't buy the cheapest crap you find you'll end up regretting it any way.

USB cable that can run at 1800mA

I've managed to find some chargers (both car and wall) that will charge with 1800mA (according to Galaxy Charging Lite app).
I have not managed to find an aftermarket cable that will charge at more than 1amp. Anyone know of an aftermarket cable that actually is capable of 1800mA? I've tried nGear and monoprice, and while they are very well constructed cables, they will only charge at 1amp or less with the n7100
Thanks for the help in advance, but please only respond to this if you've actually tested the cable with with the Galaxy Charging app or a current meter of some sort. I'm not interested in cables that only work anecdotally.
-PW

I'm breaking your rules (gasp) but as far as I'm aware, it's not the cable that manages the charge, it's the power adapter that feeds the usb, right? I've used all sorts of random cables on my travels for work, but always sticking to my 2+ amp output charger, and they've always worked.

pacificwing said:
I've managed to find some chargers (both car and wall) that will charge with 1800mA (according to Galaxy Charging Lite app).
I have not managed to find an aftermarket cable that will charge at more than 1amp. Anyone know of an aftermarket cable that actually is capable of 1800mA? I've tried nGear and monoprice, and while they are very well constructed cables, they will only charge at 1amp or less with the n7100
Thanks for the help in advance, but please only respond to this if you've actually tested the cable with with the Galaxy Charging app or a current meter of some sort. I'm not interested in cables that only work anecdotally.
-PW
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Find a very short cable and you'll see rates up to 2100 ma (as measure by battery monitor widget). I use the short usb cable that came with my jambox combined with the the phones stock charger. The charger gets so hot due to the high current that I worry if it might burn out. The cable is very short, like 6 inches. I use this one when i need a quick bump before going out.
At this low of voltage plus high current, the shielding on most cables is not enough to protect against the voltage fluctuations caused by the high magnetic field. The longer the cable the more shielding is needed. Additionally, the cable shielding gets less effective as the cable gets older due to general wear. My original usb cable can only due around 740 - 1250ma, where it used to do 1800ma when new nearly 2 years ago.
If you could find a cable where there the positive and negative wires are separated in parallel strands like traditional AC power cords, it would also help. I have a cheap charger with built in cord like this and it charges consistently fast.

Jarm3r said:
I'm breaking your rules (gasp) but as far as I'm aware, it's not the cable that manages the charge, it's the power adapter that feeds the usb, right? I've used all sorts of random cables on my travels for work, but always sticking to my 2+ amp output charger, and they've always worked.
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Most USB cables will work with the charger, but some cables (usually longer or smaller gauge wires) will restrict the charge to a lower amperage. I still haven't quite figured out how the phone knows what cable is being used, because, realistically, in a simple DC circuit, the consequence of using a cable that is too small is heating up or burning out. A cable that is too small alone will not prevent too much amperage from going through itself. This is why they invented fuses. Somehow the phone detects the gauge/length of cable being used and restricts the amperage being pulled from the charger by changing its own resistance on the circuit.
nswenson said:
Find a very short cable and you'll see rates up to 2100 ma (as measure by battery monitor widget). I use the short usb cable that came with my jambox combined with the the phones stock charger. The charger gets so hot due to the high current that I worry if it might burn out. The cable is very short, like 6 inches. I use this one when i need a quick bump before going out.
At this low of voltage plus high current, the shielding on most cables is not enough to protect against the voltage fluctuations caused by the high magnetic field. The longer the cable the more shielding is needed. Additionally, the cable shielding gets less effective as the cable gets older due to general wear. My original usb cable can only due around 740 - 1250ma, where it used to do 1800ma when new nearly 2 years ago.
If you could find a cable where there the positive and negative wires are separated in parallel strands like traditional AC power cords, it would also help. I have a cheap charger with built in cord like this and it charges consistently fast.
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I suspect you're right. The impedance of a cable is the only thing that would change over a period of time that would result in a cable that could once pull 2A to start pulling less than that. Still, it would be nice to have a list of chargers/cables that consistently pull 2A before dropping $15-$30 on one of them. There exists such a list on this forum, but it is filled with comments like "It's good enough for me", without any real data as to what performance they are getting. Hence my rules above.

The charge rate depends on your kernal not the cable. I use Agni and get over 2 amp charges from a USB cable I paid 12 cents shipped for on eBay.

I purchased this cable about two weeks ago and it delivers!! I can charge my 9300mah Zero Lemon battery from 0-100 in just under 4 hours. Stock battery in about 1.5-2hrs. Of course I'm using a 2.1 amp charger, but NONE of my other cables come close. I'm averaging 1800-1900mah charge rate with it. Next highest rate cord only gets about 1200 max. I plan on ordering 2-3 more. $5 and change with PRIME.
2.1A Micro USB Sync & Charging Cable (1M) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B009Z94PV2/ref=cm_sw_r_udp_awd_7MD2tb08CY1N7R0J

carlz28 said:
I purchased this cable about two weeks ago and it delivers!! I can charge my 9300mah Zero Lemon battery from 0-100 in just under 4 hours. Stock battery in about 1.5-2hrs. Of course I'm using a 2.1 amp charger, but NONE of my other cables come close. I'm averaging 1800-1900mah charge rate with it. Next highest rate cord only gets about 1200 max. I plan on ordering 2-3 more. $5 and change with PRIME.
2.1A Micro USB Sync & Charging Cable (1M) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B009Z94PV2/ref=cm_sw_r_udp_awd_7MD2tb08CY1N7R0J
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Thank you! This is exactly the type of review I was looking for!
:laugh:

Check this out. http://voyager8.blogspot.com/2013/04/how-to-choose-good-usb-data-and.htmlI found it while looking for the 6ft cable I used to use until it shorted from heavy use (bending a lot) and I got a pack of 10 short flat wire style 3ft cables. My 6ft one has a ferrite end and printed on it: 28agw/1p and 26awg/2c. It could handle 2A just fine, but this requires any wall outlet adapter that can output that amperage. The oem outlet adapter that comes with the phone says 2.0A output, but you can fine any 'reliable' one that has 2.0A output.

if the original cable is not 1800mA, there must be a reason

Get one of these
http://www.monoprice.com/Product?c_id=103&cp_id=10303&cs_id=1030307&p_id=5457&seq=1&format=2

anyone have this cable... or know if it is a 28AWG/1P + 24AWG/2C (i.e., 24AWG/2C for charging)
http://www.amazon.com/Mediabridge-U.../B004GF8TIK/ref=pd_cp_e_1/186-6092214-7798820

Hi
Hard to get something original for samsung nowadays

I have those monoprice cables but get different results every time I plug in (1698ma, 1300ma, 600ma, 460ma, etc...)

carlz28 said:
I purchased this cable about two weeks ago and it delivers!! I can charge my 9300mah Zero Lemon battery from 0-100 in just under 4 hours. Stock battery in about 1.5-2hrs. Of course I'm using a 2.1 amp charger, but NONE of my other cables come close. I'm averaging 1800-1900mah charge rate with it. Next highest rate cord only gets about 1200 max. I plan on ordering 2-3 more. $5 and change with PRIME.
2.1A Micro USB Sync & Charging Cable (1M) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B009Z94PV2/ref=cm_sw_r_udp_awd_7MD2tb08CY1N7R0J
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Which 2.1 amp charger are you using? I have one for my car, looking for one for home use. I also have the 9300mah ZeroLemon battery in my T-Mobile Note 2. Thanks!

Asquared said:
Which 2.1 amp charger are you using? I have one for my car, looking for one for home use. I also have the 9300mah ZeroLemon battery in my T-Mobile Note 2. Thanks!
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I was using the 2A charger that came with my Nexus tablet. But I bought an additional one for work.
iXCC ® Dual USB 4.2 Amp (20 Watt) SMART High Capacity [High Power] ... http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00HPTU0OU/ref=cm_sw_r_udp_awd_PR7.tb01EM5CB
$11.99 thru PRIME.
Had this one for almost 3 months now and it works VERY well. I get a full 1900-2000mah charge rate on the Note2 and can charge my tablet at quick speeds simultaneously.

ElDuez said:
The charge rate depends on your kernal not the cable. I use Agni and get over 2 amp charges from a USB cable I paid 12 cents shipped for on eBay.
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some fake cable limit current.

Got similar problems as the OP. I wanted to charge my phone in my car and using the phone as a navigation device without depleting the battery (which occured a few time).
Tried several usb cables, even did some mods like shorting the white and green data wire in the cabel at the phone side, but that all didn't help.
Then i came to Kopi who sells usb cables which can deliver a full current.
http://kopi-d.com/?recent_works=553
Bought a few for 6 dollar each and am now a happy camper.

shizuku said:
Got similar problems as the OP. I wanted to charge my phone in my car and using the phone as a navigation device without depleting the battery (which occured a few time).
Tried several usb cables, even did some mods like shorting the white and green data wire in the cabel at the phone side, but that all didn't help.
Then i came to Kopi who sells usb cables which can deliver a full current.
http://kopi-d.com/?recent_works=553
Bought a few for 6 dollar each and am now a happy camper.
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We're sorry, but there are no items available in the Micro USB (Android) category lol on the web site

linkhunter said:
We're sorry, but there are no items available in the Micro USB (Android) category lol on the web site
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I just saw it. Why don't you email them and ask about availability? I had contact with Victor Leung ([email protected]).

Quickcharge 2.0 and charge-only cables

Does Quickcharge 2.0 work with heavy duty charge-only cables, or is there a data component that is needed to get Quickcharge to work properly? I'm about to buy an Incipio Quickcharge 2.0 car charger which doesn't come with a cable, and I would like to get a fast charge cable like this one.

I haven't checked with my meter but a standard cable seems to be working as expected with the Motorola provided QC 2 charger.

Any cable will work as far as I know. I just used my old N7 2013 cable with he quick charger and it worked the same as the Motorola one.

Thanks for the replies but I am talking about a non-standard cable., one that only supports charging, but I think I have an answer now.
I asked a cable vendor, PortaPow, and their response is:
"Quick Charge 2.0 requires a charger designed to Qualcomm's specs and a sync+charge cable. A charge only cable such as this one will only work for charging at 5V."

I see that I misunderstood the question. Yes something has to handle the voltage/current handshake if you want anything to happen. I hadn't thought about it but it would seem that even "charge only" cables must do something with the D pins or you'd see an "incompatible charger" message on most devices.

ok so if we must have specific cables to use with the qualcomm chargers, post them up so i can purchase a couple...

According to the patent (http://www.google.com/patents/US20140122909) it uses the data pins. You don't need a special cable, but you'll need a standard usb cable that has all 4 pins intact.

Monoprice carries cables with 28/24AWG for data/power lines, but only with a bulky ferrite choke on them. Looks like most manufacturers don't list wire gauge for their products.
I would like to find a nice 3FT cable with 22AWG copper wire for power, with low voltage drop.

Roundabouts said:
Monoprice carries cables with 28/24AWG for data/power lines, but only with a bulky ferrite choke on them. Looks like most manufacturers don't list wire gauge for their products.
I would like to find a nice 3FT cable with 22AWG copper wire for power, with low voltage drop.
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Voltage drop isn't worth mentioning with a 3' cable and 22AWG seems like overkill. If anything it'd be adding resistance, no? I realize it's stranded, but still. 24AWG should be more than enough, I'd think.
Edit: Got confused on my gauges.

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V22AWG seems like overkill. If anything it'd be adding resistance, no?
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While increasing volume of wire (lower gauge) won't increase resistance we're talking about 5-13V and .5-5A so any cable you might buy that meets USB spec will be fine.
I used the supplied cable and a 10' cable. Neither got warm and both charged at QC2 speed.

Roundabouts said:
Thanks for the replies but I am talking about a non-standard cable., one that only supports charging, but I think I have an answer now.
I asked a cable vendor, PortaPow, and their response is:
"Quick Charge 2.0 requires a charger designed to Qualcomm's specs and a sync+charge cable. A charge only cable such as this one will only work for charging at 5V."
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I purchased 2 of their compatible cables - http://www.portablepowersupplies.co.uk/portapow-20awg-fast-charge-sync-micro-usb-cable/
and decided to go with Puregear's quick charger - http://www.ebay.com/itm/15149060665...38.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&rmvSB=true
The Puregear quick charger is small and has a rubbery soft finish.

Do the cables work at full amperage?

{Review} Great USB C to Micro USB adapters!

Wanted to do a shoutout to TechMatte Inc for giving me a free sample unit of these micro usb to usb C adapters. I got them in exchange for my unbiased review. So:
First: This is a two pack for a pretty reasonable price. Right now, it's $5 a piece. Not bad.
Second: Quality: These are plastic, but very functional. I have a multitude of micro USB cables from previous phones, and it's nice to be able to have backups laying around, instead of having to buy a bunch of USB C cables now. I leave the adapter plugged into the micro usb cable, and plug the adapter into the phone. Pretty handy at making the old cables still work.
Caveats: Size. This is a plus and a minus-- they would be very easy to lose. Also, the plastic feel. These work very well, but I can also see them starting to fall apart with heavy daily use. Not sure, but it looks like they wouldn't survive abuse.
Thanks, Techmatte, for the sample, and I would recommend these adapters!

Can you tell us what chargers you've used this with? Any of the Anker IQ chargers at all? I was looking at these (or similar items) to reuse the Micro USB chargers I have everywhere. Does the phone report that it's plugged into AC (in the Battery info screen), and does it report "Charging" or "Charging Slowly" if you look at the lock screen?
I'd be concerned about using an adapter like this since it could be potentially placing more stress on the phone's USB-C female connector than it was designed to handle. I'd much rather see a short (say 3" or so) Micro USB F to USB-C M adapter cable, so the stress gets relieved a bit by the cable.

compulov said:
Can you tell us what chargers you've used this with? Any of the Anker IQ chargers at all? I was looking at these (or similar items) to reuse the Micro USB chargers I have everywhere. Does the phone report that it's plugged into AC (in the Battery info screen), and does it report "Charging" or "Charging Slowly" if you look at the lock screen?
I'd be concerned about using an adapter like this since it could be potentially placing more stress on the phone's USB-C female connector than it was designed to handle. I'd much rather see a short (say 3" or so) Micro USB F to USB-C M adapter cable, so the stress gets relieved a bit by the cable.
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I bought this four pack a while ago, and just use them around the house/ office. It reports Charging when plugged in.

Hi,
Do they work as data/sync with the computer?

aiwapro said:
Hi,
Do they work as data/sync with the computer?
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Yes.

Hey I just got these today! They are small and go charge at a decently fast pace even though it only says "charging". I like that it comes in packs of 2 so I can have one in my car and one at home.
It's only been a day, but so far I approve of these.

got this one on ebay:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/40100033237...49&var=670529660301&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
$1.49 each and works great. Shipping took 9 days from China

rickyray9 said:
got this one on ebay:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/40100033237...49&var=670529660301&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
$1.49 each and works great. Shipping took 9 days from China
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Nice, does it fast charge or charge at a good speed?

buru898 said:
Nice, does it fast charge or charge at a good speed?
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I just tested using 3 configurations:
Stock LG charger and Cable 5V3A:
"Charging Rapidly" at +2621mA/h
Anker 5V2.4A charger and USB-A to C cable:
"Charging Rapidly" at +1285mA/h
Anker 5V2.4A charger and USB-A to Micro USB cable with USB C adapter:
"Charging" at +1225mA/h

Any thoughts on what the software engineer from Google has to say about the adapter and what potential impact it may have on our devices?
I'm a Software Engineer on the Chrome OS team at Google on the Chromebook Pixel and Pixel C teams.
I bought these two USB-C to Micro USB adapters from TechMatte and found they do not work properly with the Chromebook Pixel.
Upon closer inspection by our engineering team here, we have determined that this adapter is not correctly following the USB Type C specification.
The specification can be found here :
http://www.usb.org/developers/docs/usb_31_102015.zip
Specifically, these adapters do not charge the Chromebook Pixel 2015 because the adapters leave the C-C lines floating, where the specification requires a Rp pullup to Vbus to identify the cable as a legacy adapter or cable.
Please see the document named "USB Type-C Specification Release 1.1.pdf"
section 4.5.3.2.4 for a description of why the Rp pullup is necessary.
Please also see Section 4.11 and the following note :
1. For Rp when implemented in the USB Type-C plug on a USB Type-C to USB 3.1 Standard-A Cable
Assembly, a USB Type-C to USB 2.0 Standard-A Cable Assembly, a USB Type-C to USB 2.0 Micro-B
Receptacle Adapter Assembly or a USB Type-C captive cable connected to a USB host, a value of 56 k'
± 5% shall be used, in order to provide tolerance to IR drop on V BUS and GND in the cable assembly.
In other words, since you are creating a USB Type-C plug to a USB 2.0 Micro-B receptacle assembly, you must use a resistor of value 56k' as a pullup to Vbus. This cable does not do this.
Please let me know if there is any more information I can provide about why these adapters are problematic.
If you are a consumer looking for a cable that is compatible with Pixel, do not use this one.
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USB Type C Cables and Accessories Review for Elephone P9000 by Benson Leung

Not a great looking review for the Elephone P9000 USB C type by the well respected Benson Leung
on Google+ as part of their ongoing trawl through the dodgy cables being sold as safe. (See previous https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/s0Inv)
Here Benson is suggesting that there are potential risks with using the USB Type C cable supplied with the Elephone P9000.
Disclaimer : though I am linking to a brand new Type-C phone this is NOT a phone review. As I mentioned previously, I do not review phones. Instead, this is an accessory warning, for the cable that ships with that phone.
One of my colleagues recently bought a brand new P9000 from +Elephone Mobile. It came with a USB A-to-C cable and he was curious if it was a good cable, so he brought it to me.
My testing shows that this cable violates the #USB #TypeC specification. It uses a 10kΩ resistor where it should have used a 56kΩ resistor as mandated by the USB Type-C Specification.
This cable is potentially dangerous, as when combined with a Type-C device that can fast charge, it may damage Type-A chargers, hubs, or PC USB ports that are not designed for the current draw from new USB Type-C devices.
Please see my FAQ for more info :
https://plus.google.com/+BensonLeung/posts/HakwCMmd346
+Elephone Mobile, please immediately stop bundling these cables, and let your customers know to be very careful with the A-to-C cable that ships with this device.
By the way, this all may be very familiar to other users, because another phone manufacturer from China, +OnePlus, shipped a bad cable with their phone last year as well.
http://www.elephonestore.com/elephone-p9000-deca-core-4g-phone.html
As you can see there also may be an issue with the charger.
I bought some Anker USB C adaptors for now (quite cheap and work) but will raise this on the ELEPHONE forums.
Anybody else had issues?
Andy

[email protected] said:
Not a great looking review for the Elephone P9000 USB C type by the well respected Benson Leung
on Google+ as part of their ongoing trawl through the dodgy cables being sold as safe. (See previous https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/s0Inv)
Here Benson is suggesting that there are potential risks with using the USB Type C cable supplied with the Elephone P9000.
Disclaimer : though I am linking to a brand new Type-C phone this is NOT a phone review. As I mentioned previously, I do not review phones. Instead, this is an accessory warning, for the cable that ships with that phone.
One of my colleagues recently bought a brand new P9000 from +Elephone Mobile. It came with a USB A-to-C cable and he was curious if it was a good cable, so he brought it to me.
My testing shows that this cable violates the #USB #TypeC specification. It uses a 10kΩ resistor where it should have used a 56kΩ resistor as mandated by the USB Type-C Specification.
This cable is potentially dangerous, as when combined with a Type-C device that can fast charge, it may damage Type-A chargers, hubs, or PC USB ports that are not designed for the current draw from new USB Type-C devices.
Please see my FAQ for more info :
https://plus.google.com/+BensonLeung/posts/HakwCMmd346
+Elephone Mobile, please immediately stop bundling these cables, and let your customers know to be very careful with the A-to-C cable that ships with this device.
By the way, this all may be very familiar to other users, because another phone manufacturer from China, +OnePlus, shipped a bad cable with their phone last year as well.
http://www.elephonestore.com/elephone-p9000-deca-core-4g-phone.html
As you can see there also may be an issue with the charger.
I bought some Anker USB C adaptors for now (quite cheap and work) but will raise this on the ELEPHONE forums.
Anybody else had issues?
Andy
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Oh dear! Thanks for raising awareness. I was going to buy the fast charger anyway - this will speed that decision up!

good to know. im waiting for some usb c cables that should be benson approved. Tronsmart 2pack.
so, is the cable bad to use with qualcomm 2\3 chargers?

It looks bad with everything. Shame really as it seems to work but judging from the research carried out it looks really dodgy. Elephone need to rethink this.

How do you know if you have a bad cable?
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Well the risk is from the notes....damage to charger, damage to phone, fire you name it
Check out this
http://www.theverge.com/2016/2/4/10916264/usb-c-russian-roulette-power-cords

ok, will be using the wireless charger until the tronsmart cables arrives

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ok, will be using the wireless charger until the tronsmart cables arrives
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My bundled elephone cable didn't connect to the phone properly, the metal shroud covered part of the connector so it couldn't seat home fully. I had to slide the metal back, after heating it, to get the phone to charge. Couldn't get the PC to connect to the phone at all! I was very worried that the phone was faulty when I first got it, and was hoping that the cable was the problem.
I've since bought an "elephas" brand qi wireless charger and that's great! A well made piece of kit that doubles as a nightstand. It runs on a standard microusb connector.
I also bought a braided type "C" cable for the PC, its a brand called KNIPS, it feels like a good quality cable heavy and fairly inflexible, though it tends to hold shape if bent. That works very well to charge, and to transfer data between the phone and the PC.
My next purchase will be a QI charger for the car - more when that arrives, later.

Hot battery?
If anybody suffers from a very hot battery (heißer Akku) while charging, you should consider to buy a correct USB C cable vor one of these little Anker adaptors (see thr reviews at the top).

Which cable?
Please could somone post the part number for a cable that I'd safe - anker or tronsmart. I'm not clear on the USB version for the p9000

Where can I buy a compitable charger? The one that came with the phone isn't compatible according to Checkr.

Any good quality with max. 2000mah MicroUsb adapter (I use at work an Samsung travel adapter one on both USB-Type C phones) with corresponding USB-Type C adapter is suitable to charge you're phone or directly an USB-Type C adapter.
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Last night I put my phone on the charger using the supplied wall plug and a USB cable I bought from Amazon (linked below). After a few minutes there was a spark and a loud bang with a burning smell from the socket. I have now tried to charge the phone with the actual cable supplied by Elephone and a different wall plug but the phone no longer charges. It still works though as the battery isnt yet dead. I plan on returning it to Amazon with the hope of getting a new one. This time around getting an Anker wall plug and USB cable to hopefully avoid these problems in the future.

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Any MicroUsb adapter (I use at work an Samsung travel adapter one on both USB-Type C phones) with corresponding USB-Type C adapter is suitable to charge you're phone or directly USB-Type C adapter.
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Any microusb to type c adapter is safe?
Do you have any further discussion to support that statement? I would have assumed that cheap adapters can be just as dangerous as cheap cables.

A normal MicroUsb Charger not have more than 2000mah power so an adapter from MicroUsb to Usb tip C will not be a problem to charge the Usb C phone only will take more time depending on chargers power. From Usb C charger to MicroUSB I DO NOT RECOMMEND!
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Last night I put my phone on the charger using the supplied wall plug and a USB cable I bought from Amazon (linked below). After a few minutes there was a spark and a loud bang with a burning smell from the socket. I have now tried to charge the phone with the actual cable supplied by Elephone and a different wall plug but the phone no longer charges. It still works though as the battery isnt yet dead. I plan on returning it to Amazon with the hope of getting a new one. This time around getting an Anker wall plug and USB cable to hopefully avoid these problems in the future.
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Bad charger Quality (high voltage or else) or problems with sockets (dust or water in sockets from wear in pockets) or bad cable. I used an original Samsung charger with 500mah power and my cheapest MicroUSB to USB-Type C adapter and never had problems with it.
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