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Ok I'm really frustrated with this.
On 2.1 eclair the youtube app only streams in HQ, not HD.
I updated to 2.2 and even installed the newer YT ported over from gingerbread and it STILL only streams in HQ, not HD.
WHY??? Why does google not want us to stream in HD? YT is like my favourite app yet you can't stream in HD even over WIFI. Even the iphone 4 can stream youtube in HD.
Second of all, what's with people confusing HD and HQ? Looking through posts online people seem to mistakenly say you can stream in HD when in reality they mean HQ. Do people not see the difference? It's night and day....
of course it can
just click the HD button and it will display in HD if the stream is has a higher resolution file to display
is there something I'm missing then?
I've tried many videos that have HD (on computer) on my phone and it's only HQ.
THe quality difference is noticeable.
Because it makes no sense streaming in hd on 800x480 screen unless you have set-up for hd tv output. And as far I know your galaxy sh*t ( ;-) ) can't do that. And if it could, the YT app would allow you to do that.
There is no difference between 480p and 720p on your phone. Go ahead and try it, download an yt video in both variants and see! Apparently the only difference would be in 1080p, where the audio quality would be greater, but practically, just a waste of battery and server time and... everything.
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And ye forgot, even then the videos should be optimized for that, the channel should be YouTube partner and ye, optimized for mobile. I think some videos shot in 720p with smartphones and directly uploaded to yt allow that.
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in the vibrant forum, they hacked a Froyo version of the new YouTube app, you can try that and see if you get better quality.
aside that, there are many other better 3rd party apps that can download & stream video from youtube site on HD
just type in the name of the video you want to watch and it goes straight in HD
like Tube-Mate for YouTube
i made that as my default youtube app
there is also another one that also always plays/downloads only HD versions like Tube-Mate for YouTube, but forgot the name of that other app
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Because it makes no sense streaming in hd on 800x480 screen unless you have set-up for hd tv output. And as far I know your galaxy sh*t ( ;-) ) can't do that. And if it could, the YT app would allow you to do that.
There is no difference between 480p and 720p on your phone. Go ahead and try it, download an yt video in both variants and see! Apparently the only difference would be in 1080p, where the audio quality would be greater, but practically, just a waste of battery and server time and... everything.
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Umm no.
I'm not one for all the technical details on what the phone can or can't display but there is a CLEAR difference when it comes to streaming youtube. HD vids I load on my phone are CRISP. So-called HD on youtube when streamed on the SGS is not even near crisp, while on the iphone (my sister has one) it is crisp.
A VERY good example is this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdtejCR413c
using the youtube app on the phone, if you search up "lebron commercial" and stream it in "HQ" note the quality. Then use Tube Mate another app to download the video in 720p quality and watch it on your video player.
HUGE difference in quality. It's noticeable.
I'm sorry but I don't understand how people can not notice the quality difference. HQ and HD is a big difference. I've never streamed an HD youtube video and had it appear sharp on my phone. The words HQ appear at the top and the lower quality is definitely noticeable.
AllGamer said:
in the vibrant forum, they hacked a Froyo version of the new YouTube app, you can try that and see if you get better quality.
aside that, there are many other better 3rd party apps that can download & stream video from youtube site on HD
just type in the name of the video you want to watch and it goes straight in HD
like Tube-Mate for YouTube
i made that as my default youtube app
there is also another one that also always plays/downloads only HD versions like Tube-Mate for YouTube, but forgot the name of that other app
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hey just wondering, I used Tube-Mate but even when streaming that lebron commercial it only shows up as HQ, not HD.
If I download it with Tube-mate in 720p and watch it in video player, THEN it's in HD....
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Umm no.
I'm not one for all the technical details on what the phone can or can't display but there is a CLEAR difference when it comes to streaming youtube. HD vids I load on my phone are CRISP. So-called HD on youtube when streamed on the SGS is not even near crisp, while on the iphone (my sister has one) it is crisp.
A VERY good example is this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdtejCR413c
using the youtube app on the phone, if you search up "lebron commercial" and stream it in "HQ" note the quality. Then use Tube Mate another app to download the video in 720p quality and watch it on your video player.
HUGE difference in quality. It's noticeable.
I'm sorry but I don't understand how people can not notice the quality difference. HQ and HD is a big difference. I've never streamed an HD youtube video and had it appear sharp on my phone. The words HQ appear at the top and the lower quality is definitely noticeable.
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This is a function of the Youtube app itself and NOT something merely SGS related. Want to get mad about it...Write google. This occurs on all android phones running the Youtube app...
video quality difference is definitely there
the problem comes with the 3G/3.5G speeds
HD plays fine on WiFi, but not on 3.5G (HSPDA)
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This is a function of the Youtube app itself and NOT something merely SGS related. Want to get mad about it...Write google. This occurs on all android phones running the Youtube app...
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I realize that. I did ask why wont google let us stream in HD.
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video quality difference is definitely there
the problem comes with the 3G/3.5G speeds
HD plays fine on WiFi, but not on 3.5G (HSPDA)
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HD plays fine on WIFI for you?
seriously?
errr I can't possibly have a worse YT app then yours, mine is 2.0.26.
The button says HQ, not HD at the top of the video.
As mentioned, if I stream it's high quality, but not sharp.
Use Tube-Mate to download same vid in 720p, then watch in video player = HD quality and very very sharp.
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I realize that. I did ask why wont google let us stream in HD.
HD plays fine on WIFI for you?
seriously?
errr I can't possibly have a worse YT app then yours, mine is 2.0.26.
The button says HQ, not HD at the top of the video.
As mentioned, if I stream it's high quality, but not sharp.
Use Tube-Mate to download same vid in 720p, then watch in video player = HD quality and very very sharp.
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Well it's probably due to the carriers. If you were a carrier with a 3G network would you want to stream 480p or 720p video to phones with 480p resolutions??
It makes sense for the carriers, so it probably made sense to Google as well.
There are also QOS (Quality Of Service) issues to consider. It's safe to say that google and your carrier cannot reliably guarantee that you could have the bandwidth via 3g/3.5g to always and reliably be able to stream HD video. Users in this scenario would likely make the mistake of blaming the carrier, google and youtube for making a crap system and crap app, rather than making the reasoned leap that perhaps the network isn't always going to be up to the task. It's best to impose a limitation few would complain out, to guarantee more reliable service and a more reliable perception of that service for everyone.
In my experience the difference in quality between streamed and directly downloaded (and higher resolution) video is minimal, and usually dependent on the source material as well as how old the youtube video is..
But you can directly download them with apps like Tube Mate....so I'm unsure of the problem, other than it merely being a lack of patience. But if patience is the issue(due to the amount of time it takes), it'd likely have trouble streaming in a timely manner anyway.
yeah I'm aware of the amount of bandwidth required to stream HD over 3G but that's not my concern. My concern is over WIFI because I can't seem to stream in HD over WIFI. There are people here saying they can stream HD through WIFI (not sure if it's more confusion with HQ and HD) but there DEFINITELY is no option to stream in HD through wifi for my youtube app, which is the latest one (the eclaire 2.1 app wasn't able to either).
I can only stream in HQ, not HD. The quality diff is noticeable. That lebron james commercial I posted is a very good example. Just dl it with tube-mate in 720p and watch it. Compare the quality with streaming the same video in "HQ" on the youtube app...big difference. I don't get why we can't even stream in HD through WIFI?
I also don't get why some people are saying they CAN stream in HD....
Unless for some reason my youtube app is gimped (highly doubt it), these people are still mistaking HQ for HD...
and yes the whole point of youtube is to stream, so of course I would want to stream in HD. Why would I want to have to search up the video, then download it, then watch it. That's not how youtube is supposed to work....
again bandwidth/speed isn't an issue since I'm on WIFI
sorry just had to get this off my chest.
Just an update.
I found what appears to be the best app to stream HD youtube vids.
It's JetVD, available for free from the market.
It streams 720p PERFECTLY. That lebron commercial above is crystal clear.
If you choose mp4 high quality, you get the same quality as what the youtube app streams. You can also download if you want.
I love the YT interface and being able to view my account, my favourites, see related videos...etc.
I guess I'l have to use both and switch to JetVD to stream 720p.
Shame for some reason Google decided to gimp the YT app (even on WIFI).
+1 for JetVD
Been using it since Hero days, used to let me download while streaming another video, or download multiple videos at once, but the most recent updates are missing this useful ability.
Still, its free and works great for viewing HD and saving them to ur phone for offline use as well!
i have jetVD installed too
still can't decide which one is better
I don't see 4k as an option in my Netflix app and the HDR videos, the blacks aren't black. It's like grey. I'm confused. I have data usage to Max, I've reinstalled the app, I have 110 mbps down with Comcast.
Is this all by design?
I think it is region and content dependant, I dont see it in my samsung tv either,
Pardon me for asking but what's the point of 4K content when you dont have a 4K display?
I didn't think Netflix content would show available as 4K unless the app detects a 4K screen which the Note doesn't have .Same as their television apps.
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You have to subscribe to 4k content as well.
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According to this site Note 8 has "3K Higher Resolution 2960 x 1440" & it is certified by the "UHD Alliance for Mobile HDR Premium, which allows it to play all of the latest content produced for 4K UHD Premium TVs" it means it is HDR ready I can clearly see a difference between HD & HDR content on Netflix and on downloaded videos!
But tell me why Netflix is incompatible with my device?
I have Netflix istalled on my phone and one time when I opened it the app was asking for update. Took me straight from Netflix to Play store and there it said something "This app is incompatible with your device". After that I couldn't even find Netflix from Play anymore.
I got stock international Exynos version, N950F/DS
Spere said:
But tell me why Netflix is incompatible with my device?
I have Netflix istalled on my phone and one time when I opened it the app was asking for update. Took me straight from Netflix to Play store and there it said something "This app is incompatible with your device". After that I couldn't even find Netflix from Play anymore.
I got stock international Exynos version, N950F/DS
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Rooted ? If it's the case, don't look further... And install Netflix from apkmirror
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Rooted ? If it's the case, don't look further... And install Netflix from apkmirror
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Like I said, stock. So no root.
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According to this site Note 8 has "3K Higher Resolution 2960 x 1440" & it is certified by the "UHD Alliance for Mobile HDR Premium, which allows it to play all of the latest content produced for 4K UHD Premium TVs" it means it is HDR ready I can clearly see a difference between HD & HDR content on Netflix and on downloaded videos!
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To be honest, watching 4K downscaled instead of 1080p upscaled on a 3K display kinda makes sense, at least. But the HDR is a top argument, enough said.
I'm not even that mad at the resolution. It might actually be showing in 3k but just not labeled as so. I'm more made I'm getting a washed out black level when watching HDR. That's the opposite of HDR. Complete opposite. If you watch your nav bar right as it switches to HDR Netflix you can see it turn from black to grey almost. Why Netflix, why.
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I'm not even that mad at the resolution. It might actually be showing in 3k but just not labeled as so. I'm more made I'm getting a washed out black level when watching HDR. That's the opposite of HDR. Complete opposite. If you watch your nav bar right as it switches to HDR Netflix you can see it turn from black to grey almost. Why Netflix, why.
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Ok, so the question really is why Netflix isn't showing hdr content?
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Ok, so the question really is why Netflix isn't showing hdr content?
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Or showing it wrong. It's labeled HDR and does look very bright and colorful. The blacks are wrong and sometimes the highlights are a tad off. Like on skin. Can anybody test and confirm this grey black effect?
Dud you try to switch Screen Mode to AMOLED Cinema to see if it makes any difference?
No difference. Still makes the blacks turn grey.
In Brazil too don't work HDR in Galaxy Note 8 and my speed internet is 100mb I try contact support Netflix but they don't know way don't work.
Lets post some links / examples of the best videos to show off this amazing display. Just note whether it's Netflix, Hulu, Amazon Prime, YouTube, or whatever other source you can find. I know YouTube has an HDR Channel, but wanted to see what else you've found out there.
I've found https://4kmedia.org is a good start with hdr TV demos from different brands.
What I've been trying to find for a while is a company that you can buy 4k movies from. Google Play/Amazon ect. seem to only do HD and with current phone storage I wouldn't mind a film taking up 20GB+ if it's in 4K.
Anyone else experience issues with Standard Video on applications such as YouTube TV or Amazon Video? BOLD support is useless, sent ticket in on this 2 weeks ago and then called and the girl was clueless.
Too bad seems like s software issue otherwise the phone is great but its getting returned, no point with this amazing screen to watch 480p video...oddly enough regular YouTube does support 1080p.
Yes. YoutubeTv is 480p on mine as well. I wonder why. Normal YouTube does 1080p so I don't see why tv couldn't.
Hi. Just quick question: is this device hdr compatible? Netflix says that no, youtube shows no hdr ( i can play hdr videos but with no hdr efects ). Anyone?
maderos said:
Hi. Just quick question: is this device hdr compatible? Netflix says that no, youtube shows no hdr ( i can play hdr videos but with no hdr efects ). Anyone?
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Should be it is listed many places as having HDR 10+. I haven't tried but will now.
Edit yea Netflix says it is not compatible....
Quoted from reviews "One thing worth noting is that Netflix does not support HDR playback on the FE as of writing this - YouTube and Amazon Prime Video, on the other hand, do, so the phone definitely supports HDR, but it will be up to Netflix to enable the streaming support in HDR. The DRM Info app reports the phone is indeed capable of HDR10, HDR10+, and HLG playback, and it has Widevine Level 1." They need to support it. The hardware is there.
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Thx...i know it already
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Neither Netflix nor Prime shows in HDR for me on the S20 FE. Youtube detects the display is HDR capable, but does not seem to activate HDR (e.g., by maxing the brightness). My guess is Samsung caught these content providers by surprise with the release of the S20 FE, so they haven't had time to certify the display and make sure it works correctly with their services.
try the original youtube App not a modded Version.
It does HDR for me with high Brightness.
But sometimes the brightness stutters a bit.
maik005 said:
try the original youtube App not a modded Version.
It does HDR for me with high Brightness.
But sometimes the brightness stutters a bit.
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I can confirm HDR works. Just blinded myself watching some Costa Rican video.
It is no for me. Youtube app or vanced, no hdr effect.
Edit. Youtube app shows me hdr content but brightness changes too frequent.
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Hi!
This issue is fixed?
I want to purchase the device and before that I want to know if the HDR support exists on Netflix.
Can someone please share a screenshot at "App settings - Reproduction specification" in the Netflix app?
Best Regards
jhobc said:
Hi!
This issue is fixed?
I want to purchase the device and before that I want to know if the HDR support exists on Netflix.
Can someone please share a screenshot at "App settings - Reproduction specification" in the Netflix app?
Best Regards
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just looked on my S20 FE 5G EU Model (SM-G781B)
It says there
HDR possibilities:
None.
maik005 said:
just looked on my S20 FE 5G EU Model (SM-G781B)
It says there
HDR possibilities:
None.
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Thanks!
What's the software version of your device?
jhobc said:
Thanks!
What's the software version of your device?
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and the info from Netflix App an Netflix App version.
Thanks a lot @maik005 !
Samsung/Netflix forgotten about the HDR support for this device.
I will buy the device. Have nice specs for the price ratio.
Let's hope for some fix in a early future
But at least have Full HD... Better than nothing
Other than Netflix can HDR10 file be played with regular video players like MX Player and the Android stock video player?
HDR UHD 4K Demos | 4K Media
UHD 4K demos with HDR (high dynamic range), this expands the range of both contrast and color significantly.
4kmedia.org
I can play them without a problem.
But the display stays at low brightness and it does not look like HDR even with B
max brightness.
Tested with VLC and Samsung Video Player.
Now the S20 FE is on the Netflix HDR supported devices list
Maybe after a system update we can finally watch HDR content
How to use Netflix on your Android phone or tablet
To watch Netflix, download the app from the Google Play Store, open it, then follow the instructions.
help.netflix.com