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My Note 4 will be my last phone from Samsung.
Now thinking of the LG G4 Pro when it comes out or there's the new Motorola X Style coming out next month for only £359.99:
http://blog.clove.co.uk/2015/08/14/pre-order-motorola-x-style-359-99-coming-september/
When you compare the specs of this phone and the price to the Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge+ 32GB – £600 including VAT (£500+VAT) 64GB – £680 including VAT (£566.67+VAT) you can see how Samsung are rapidly becoming the new Nokia.
Perhaps they shouldn't rely on 'focus groups' so much?
Don't know if cheaper but I'll be moving to LG g4 pro hopefully if it has what I want. Contract expires soon
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Galaxaster said:
My Note 4 will be my last phone from Samsung.
Now thinking of the LG G4 Pro when it comes out or there's the new Motorola X Style coming out next month for only £359.99:
http://blog.clove.co.uk/2015/08/14/pre-order-motorola-x-style-359-99-coming-september/
When you compare the specs of this phone and the price to the Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge+ 32GB – £600 including VAT (£500+VAT) 64GB – £680 including VAT (£566.67+VAT) you can see how Samsung are rapidly becoming the new Nokia.
Perhaps they shouldn't rely on 'focus groups' so much?
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Yes, the G Pro 4 as the lad above me said, it will be a really heavy hitter. Or...
...the previous Notes, 3 and 4.
True, no 64 bit processors, but the Note 4's camera is comparable to the one in the Note 5, also removable battery, also the same 2K screen.
The Note 3 - camera is obviously weaker, but due to the screen not being 2K, doesn't drain the battery so much, plus we have ports of the Note 4 and S6. The phone is still powerful even today. And these days it's dirt cheap.
Or if you don't care about battery life too much, wait for the new Nexuses. I'm eyeing the Nexus 5 (2015) cause rumors claim it will be Full HD screen instead of 2K + the Snapdragon 820 inside.
Thanks, Samsung, for a 3000 mAh battery in a phone that could have had 4000 easily, and this bull***t "why use your phone for longer when you can charge it faster"? F*** logic.
If my only upgrade options are with pathetic battery life, I think I'll get pathetic battery life with pure Android.
I've also read that the Nexus 5 (15) is going to have the 620 snapdragon.
Yes... The Moto X PE
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sirobelec said:
Yes, the G Pro 4 as the lad above me said, it will be a really heavy hitter. Or...
...the previous Notes, 3 and 4.
True, no 64 bit processors, but the Note 4's camera is comparable to the one in the Note 5, also removable battery, also the same 2K screen.
The Note 3 - camera is obviously weaker, but due to the screen not being 2K, doesn't drain the battery so much, plus we have ports of the Note 4 and S6. The phone is still powerful even today. And these days it's dirt cheap.
Or if you don't care about battery life too much, wait for the new Nexuses. I'm eyeing the Nexus 5 (2015) cause rumors claim it will be Full HD screen instead of 2K + the Snapdragon 820 inside.
Thanks, Samsung, for a 3000 mAh battery in a phone that could have had 4000 easily, and this bull***t "why use your phone for longer when you can charge it faster"? F*** logic.
If my only upgrade options are with pathetic battery life, I think I'll get pathetic battery life with pure Android.
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I don't think we're going to see a phone with the Snapdragon 820 until 2016. I'd love to be proven wrong though. It just got announced.
Best hope we have is a G4 Pro with the full Snapdragon 810 that doesn't overheat and with all we wanted in the Note (removable battery, SD card) and of course what you would expect in a flagship (awesome screen - probably with LG it will be IPS, top end camera, and the other features). I'd love for a return to a Nexus with a removable battery and storage but I don't think that is happening.
The last LG G pro, the LG G pro 2 wasn't released for the US market. Maybe the LG G pro 3 will be different.
The LG g4 isn't really an option because it has inferior graphics performance vs the note 4 and almost no development support.
Anyway I'm going to give the Note 5 a try. If I don't like it, I have 14 days to return it.
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My Note 4 will be my last phone from Samsung.
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Don't be so dramatic . Enjoy your note4, it's a great phone, the s6 is a great phone too, the note5 is a mistake when you consider its predecessors only. Next year Samsung might wisen up and make a great phone again
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Don't be so dramatic . Enjoy your note4, it's a great phone, the s6 is a great phone too, the note5 is a mistake when you consider its predecessors only. Next year Samsung might wisen up and make a great phone again
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HTC and Motorola have both done the same thing. They both removed expandable storage and then restored it.
The HTC M7 and Moto X both lacked microsd card support. The HTC restored expandable storage in the M8 and M9 while motorola restored it in the Moto X style.
The best alternative to the Note 5? You already own it, it's called the Note 4!
With that said, if you really don't need the Wacom pen (I do), I'd also have suggested the LG G4 or the Moto X Style/Pure if you can also do without a removable battery, with the latter's strongest selling point being that it works on just about any network you can imagine, no countless variants with locked-out bands like everyone who isn't Apple or Google tends to do.
I still don't believe the LG G4 Pro is a thing until it gets officially announced, but if they stop faffing about with capacitive styluses and put a proper Wacom digitizer in there, they're gonna steal all of the Galaxy Note users ticked off by the Note 5 in one fell swoop.
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The best alternative to the Note 5? You already own it, it's called the Note 4!
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I'm using a Note 3 and its wonderful. I bought TWO Note 1's. The first one got flakey after a year and I didn't like the Note 2 cause of the narrower screen so I got another Note 1. Now I've upgraded to the Note 3 and the software (AryaMod 7.2 + a kernel with memory compression) is really maturing, I have a 128GB SD which I'll soon upgrade to 200GB, 256GB or 512GB depending on prices at the end of the year. The Note 3 was the great leap forward.
The Note 4 was an incremental step over the Note 3. I bit of a step backwards losing USB 3.0. But otherwise its a Note 3+
The Note5 is an evil degenerative troll. They should just cancel it and wait till next year.
Hopefully sales will be so bad that they will be compelled to release a fixit version of the Note 5 with SD, and either removable battery or make the silly thing water proof to give you a reason the battery can't be removed.
The Note5 is an abomination. Stick with the Note 3 or 4 till the Note 6 comes out.
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The Note5 is an abomination. Stick with the Note 3 or 4 till the Note 6 comes out.
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Really I think it will be a good phone, one of the best on the market but for note4 and s6 owners this phone won't be a straight upgrade more of a sidegrade, where you sacrifice some functionality for other functionality. It shouldn't have been, it should have a clear upgrade
The Note 5 has a lot of competition
The Huawei Mate 8 is launching next month.
Add this to the growing list of Note 5 alternatives:
http://vinereport.com/article/huawei.mate.8.mate.8.to.be.officially.released.in.ifa.new.phone.will.have.front.facing.led.flash.for.front.cam/2344.htm
That mate 8 phone sounds really impressive but these phones need to have some kinda pen especially since their bigger .. I hope the g4 pro ends up releasing
Biggest problem is every damn phone out there have somefunction wich is missing compared to N4
Exempel. Most phones dont have IR like moto
Removabale battery
The S pen and muti window
Support for my Gear S
No wireless charging
And other small stuff... So whatever damn phone i look at is missing functions
Im stickning with my N4 and dont know why we all Gotta chnage phones..mine is great.
Btw. Note 3 owners. Uppgrade to N4 i have them both at Home and n4 is better and worth it.
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For me, the main festure I want that Samsung has now failed on with both the Note 4 and Note 5, is a larger screen than my Note 3. All the things they did taking steps backwards with the Note 5, is just adding insult to injury for me. I don't care what the hell was in the phone, if it still a has a "small ass" 5.7 inch screen, I don't want it. Now I'm completely ready to jump to another manufacturer, after having the original Note and then Note 3, as long as someone comes out with a high end phone with a larger screen than 5.7 inches.
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I'm using a Note 3 and its wonderful. I bought TWO Note 1's. The first one got flakey after a year and I didn't like the Note 2 cause of the narrower screen so I got another Note 1. Now I've upgraded to the Note 3 and the software (AryaMod 7.2 + a kernel with memory compression) is really maturing, I have a 128GB SD which I'll soon upgrade to 200GB, 256GB or 512GB depending on prices at the end of the year. The Note 3 was the great leap forward.
The Note 4 was an incremental step over the Note 3. I bit of a step backwards losing USB 3.0. But otherwise its a Note 3+
The Note5 is an evil degenerative troll. They should just cancel it and wait till next year.
Hopefully sales will be so bad that they will be compelled to release a fixit version of the Note 5 with SD, and either removable battery or make the silly thing water proof to give you a reason the battery can't be removed.
The Note5 is an abomination. Stick with the Note 3 or 4 till the Note 6 comes out.
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I definitely agree in that the Note 3 was the biggest leap forward, given the jump to 1080p, USB 3.0, S800, IR blaster and so forth.
The Note 4 lost USB 3.0, ambient temp and humidity sensors for whatever dumb reason, but I do like the fast charge, pen tilt sensitivity and Gear VR it brought to the table. It probably helped that I was coming from an S3 (would've been a Note 2 if I had my way); coming from a Note 3, you'd gain a lot less, even losing a little.
But you'd lose a lot less than going to the Note 5. Samsung really screwed us this time, and I can only hope they realize their error by bringing back everything with the Note 6.
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Im planning to upgrade and was wondering if there are any similar phones that are like the note 4 and the 5 . What I'm saying is that I want the latest and greatest device that has great battery life, micro sd slot, removable back, fast charging, a good camera, good software and BEAST specs. LG v10 is a good alternative but only has 3000 mah battery... Also don't like the 2 front cameras, and the secondary screen... It's weirdly useless is someways and, hard to reach.... I mean I would get the note 4 but I don't like the fingerprint scanner it has, the old touchwiz, and it's a year old device. Not sure what to get.. Any suggestions?...
Nothing out there that will match the Note 5 unfortunately.
Nexus 6p?
Nexus 6p has been facing a lot of flak for the quality. In fact I cancelled my pre order for it & it was over a month without confirmed dispatch dates. Also the screen has issues.
I upgraded from Note 4 to Note 5 due to cracked screen. The new Touchwiz is lite. What is important is whether the pen functionality is important for you. I use it as my primary note taking device in meetings.
To make it simple. If you can wait for a bit & dont require pen funtionality the Nexus 6p will be a good choice as they will sort out the build in their coming batches.
Note 5 is the most powerful device right now. I would suggest it over note 4 only because you will get faster update than note 4. Rest device is almost same.
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Nexus 6p has been facing a lot of flak for the quality. In fact I cancelled my pre order for it & it was over a month without confirmed dispatch dates. Also the screen has issues.
I upgraded from Note 4 to Note 5 due to cracked screen. The new Touchwiz is lite. What is important is whether the pen functionality is important for you. I use it as my primary note taking device in meetings.
To make it simple. If you can wait for a bit & dont require pen funtionality the Nexus 6p will be a good choice as they will sort out the build in their coming batches.
Note 5 is the most powerful device right now. I would suggest it over note 4 only because you will get faster update than note 4. Rest device is almost same.
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Thing about 6p is that it uses the snapdragon 810 processor, which is known to have overheating issues.. Speaking of processors; The 820 is almost here. So I'll probably wait and get the s7...
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Thing about 6p is that it uses the snapdragon 810 processor, which is known to have overheating issues.. Speaking of processors; The 820 is almost here. So I'll probably wait and get the s7...
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I tried the 810 in a one plus 2. I never saw any sign of overheating. It looked to me last Le a great platform. I just prefer the Spen and Note Screen so moved up to a note 5. Must sell the OP2 sometime......!
Edit - I should add that the V10 looks interesting to me – I might have gone for it if it weren't for the note 5
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Is it me, or have literally NO phones come out that are worth upgrading to?
It is not you ?
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You are not alone my friend, I was thinking about note7 but I'd prefer my house not to burn down.
I even heard of 1 instance that the s7edge started on fire in guys pocket so i dunno.
Note 5 is still a beast and with note 7 roms, not much reason to upgrade. Keeping my eyes on those PIXEL phones tho....maybe
S7 edge made me jump. As much as I loved using the Note 5 as my daily, the battery life and compact body is what brought me to the S7 edge. Still have the note 5 kicking around though.
One thing that annoys me about the s7 edge is the lack of any really competent and worthwhile screen protection. Even wet application is peeling for me. But I much prefer the micro sd expansion and larger battery to care.
No. My rooted Note 5 runs just fine, so I'll stick with it. I'll wait for the Note 8 or 9 before I upgrade.
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Has the Note 5 been discontinued?
In South Africa it seems that stock is running low? GSMarena says "Status = available". My Note 4 got stolen and I don't know whether to wait and hope that Samsung will do the sensible thing and produce the Note 5 in a 128gb version or to go out and reluctantly buy the Note 5 64gb.
Micro sd slot is non-negotionable but now I am stuck.
Love the Note functionality, also have a Note 8 and 12.2.
Anyone with some inside knowledge what Samsung's plans are with the Note range?
phones are discontinued a few months after launch to retool machines to build the new phones so yeah, the note 5 stoped production a long long time ago
Thanks Cachanilla86,
So guess, I should jump and get one or risk not getting a new Samsung Note phone again - thanks
So... The Note 8 is out... Its a great Device! But 1000€ its exaggerated!!
How many Note 4 users will go to the 8? I think not so many...
I'm still happy with my 3 years old Device... (Already with Dr.Ketan's Rom)
Can we hope to a Note 8 porting or witch Rom can you recommend?
Or should i start to save money? [emoji39]
I just ordered a Mate 9 from Newegg today. I seen the price of the Note 8 and my thought was the same ($1200 + tax Canadian here). I'm on my 2nd Note 4 now and this one has the eMMC issue too. So from the reviews the Mate 9 seems like a close contender with the S8 (At this point I don't care about custom roms for it)
Moniclock said:
So... The Note 8 is out... Its a great Device! But 1000€ its exaggerated!!
How many Note 4 users will go to the 8? I think not so many...
I'm still happy with my 3 years old Device... (Already with Dr.Ketan's Rom)
Can we hope to a Note 8 porting or witch Rom can you recommend?
Or should i start to save money? [emoji39]
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I like Samsung note, but I'll don't pay this price to got it...
Too is too!
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i will go N8 if same price with N4 lmao
is too expensive with 128gb or 64gb
or i must wait until my N4 die forever
I was going to buy one but I really think the Note 4 is still doing the business for me and can not see the benefit
Note 4 is doing great job for me for now. Even if my phone dies, wont give so much money for a phone.
i ended up preordering the n8 at 12:01 AM on the 24th. I love my note 4, and now even more so since I picked up the 10000 mha zerolemon extended battery. But I really want a new phone. I will hang on to the note 4 for a long time, it has a special place in my heart.
Was happy with my Note 4 (running Norma V20) untill my girlfrien got a Samsung S8+.
Then my note suddenly was crap
Bought the Oneplus 5, and daaaaaaamn this phone is fast and smooth! Kinda miss the S-Pen and bigger screen but daaaaaaamn the speed on the Onepluss overweights everything. Much faster than the S8+ to my girlfriend also.
i have the motherboard freezes and reboots and my camera front glas is damaged. i realy need a new phone
i paid for the N8 600$ with provider bonus, i think thats a nice price.
Well my note 4 is still better , infrared is an essential tool for me and note 8 dont have it... I guess I will wait until note 9[emoji14]
Way too overpriced, so I am gonna pass on that. My note 4 is still running like day one, minus the battery which can be replaced easily replaced.
I'm extremely disappointed with Note 8.
Curved edges (without any alternative) mean that the screen will be much more fragile, and will give you glares on the edges. It is both more fragile AND more expensive to replace than flat screens (we've seen that since S7 edge). If that's not enough, the back is now not durable, it's made of glass and you can break it too.
For me personally, one of the biggest NOs of Note 8 is its heavy weight: 200 grams is much more than already too heavy 167 grams of Note 4. About 3 years ago i have changed Galaxy S3 (100 grams) to Note 4 (176 grams) and the change was drastic... It hurts to talk half an hour or more on Note 4, and in general it's too heavy. I sense its weight all the time, every day, and every day wish it were lighter.
The battery is not removable, and it's real PITA. In my Note 4 a battery fully lasts only 1 year, then starts degrade like crazy (overheating during charge; phone turns off at 5, then 10, then 30% etc). I have got my 3rd battery already! With Note 4, maybe would be able to replace it via service center, but it will be more time consuming, more expensive, you will get your device disassembled so it will no longer be like new (lots of glued parts inside), and you will have to trust all your confidential or sensitive data to be given to the service center with your phone.
Why only QuickCHarge 2 is supported (like in Note 4), why not at least QuickCharge 3??
Where are real innovations? Like no bezels screen (Xiaomi Mi Mix 2, or Sharp Aquos Crystal 2), or stereo speakers (last years' ZTE Axon 7)???
This phone costs 500€ or less. 500€ is an absolute maximum one should pay for note 8 at the start of the sales (assuming all the abovementioned minuses), and then the price should drop. I would probably pay no more than 300€, as curved screen and non-removable battery just impose so much programmed obsolesce, that i refuse to invest more.
Realistically, i'm still on Note 4 with a refreshed battery, with an optimized rooted rom and efficient kernel (android 4.4.4), everything flies, and i do not upgrade as i have seen too many negative complaints about 5.x and 6.x ROMS. The device is fast and fits my needs (except being too heavy), however I really want a new, faster device with more modern OS, preferably Android O.
In the short term, if an Android O ROM will become available for N910F, i'll give it a go.
In the long term, i guess i will be migrating to a reasonably price edgeless device (must be QHD Amoled, preferable 6.2-6.3), very likely Xiaomi Mi Mix 2.
Samsung just leaves no other options, it does ignore its customers' needs.
I'm begrudgingly moving to the Note 8 because I have no other penabled smartphone options on the market; this is a niche Samsung has all to itself until someone dares to compete.
Normally, I'd keep the Note 4 still, but I'm in a bit of an unusual predicament: an unofficially SIM-unlocked Sprint N910P variant on T-Mobile since the end of January, largely because we all know what happened to the Note 7 and I didn't want to chance buying another Note 4 with all this talk of eMMC failures. Lately, I can't even get 3G on T-Mo for some reason despite it having worked before (4G never worked because Sprint locked out the bands on their variant), and my call quality's turned to crap.
In short, my hand was forced due to a carrier switch resulting in subpar network performance on my current phone, and had my family heeded my advice two years ago, we would've switched that much sooner.
At least Samsung will take $200 off for trading in an old S5 in working order, and we've got a pair of Sprint S5s not doing much anyway since the switch. That makes the cost of the Note 8 a bit easier to stomach, alongside the pre-order promo... but only a bit. (Ironically, they wouldn't take Note 4s for trade-in, but there's no way in hell I'm giving up mine like that anyway. I like having an IR blaster for those things I didn't get remotes with!)
As a bonus, I won't have to deal with any carrier branding BS this time. If there's an unlocked variant that costs as much as all the major carrier-locked variants anyway, sometimes even a bit less, why the heck would anyone NOT get the SIM-unlocked version? (Bootloader unlocking is probably a pipe dream for North American models now, though. Thanks a lot, Samsung... if not for import models being even more expensive for a litany of reasons, I would've gone that route.)
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Was happy with my Note 4 (running Norma V20) untill my girlfrien got a Samsung S8+.
Then my note suddenly was crap [emoji14]
Bought the Oneplus 5, and daaaaaaamn this phone is fast and smooth! Kinda miss the S-Pen and bigger screen but daaaaaaamn the speed on the Onepluss overweights everything. Much faster than the S8+ to my girlfriend also.
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Note 8 will be faster
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Note 8 will be faster
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And? Price justified? I think no!
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And? Price justified? I think no!
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Relax. Calm down
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I have a note 4 910c model, i love this phone. I havnt rooted it as yet. Hopefully there will be a note 8 rom soon.
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Relax. Calm down
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Lol. That the problem with messaging. I'm relax.
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I'm still on the original Note 4 and also have a brand new spare one that I have never had to use. That may be going on eBay!
Think I'm gonna wait until my upgrade is due in December to see how this pans out. Not too sure about the lack of capacitive buttons but the dual 12mp camera is a biggie for me. Hopefully a working root will be in place to disable Bixby and all the other Samsung crap.
Found out today I have a permanent 25% discount with Vodafone UK so £45 a month is acceptable.
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Note 8 will be faster
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No. Note 8 has the same hardware as the Oneplus 5, but has bloatware OS instead of "stock" android.
So it will be slower.