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Hey Everyone,
I'm fairly new to the Android community. I got an R1 and have since rooted it and de-bloated it. But I was wondering what the state of Cyanogenmod is. I've heard they've stopped development on it. Is there any chance they (or someone) will add support for the Blu R1 HD?
I'm interested in getting a full AOSP experience without the closed source google services kit software.
-Jeff
Don't hold me to this, but I personally believe CM13 support will not be too difficult. It'll be later versions of Android that will pose a problem.
Also, CM13 for the R1 HD is being worked on. It's just a matter of time.
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Don't hold me to this, but I personally believe CM13 support will not be too difficult. It'll be later versions of Android that will pose a problem.
Also, CM13 for the R1 HD is being worked on. It's just a matter of time.
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Oh, it is? Thats great. I have plenty of patience
I'm in the same exact boat, have rooted/de-bloated and installed trebuchet and other features, but really would like to see CM support.
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Hey Everyone,
I'm fairly new to the Android community. I got an R1 and have since rooted it and de-bloated it. But I was wondering what the state of Cyanogenmod is. I've heard they've stopped development on it. Is there any chance they (or someone) will add support for the Blu R1 HD?
I'm interested in getting a full AOSP experience without the closed source google services kit software.
-Jeff
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ss2man44 said:
Don't hold me to this, but I personally believe CM13 support will not be too difficult. It'll be later versions of Android that will pose a problem.
Also, CM13 for the R1 HD is being worked on. It's just a matter of time.
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I don't understand too much about android ROM development, but what would prevent CM14 development/future versions from being developed?
contacted Blu and they told me that they are looking forward to working on updating as many devices as they can to the new platform as soon as possible!......righhtttt!!!
Once the dev. on the kernel is in line for a cm13 port , cm14 (which is already being worked on) hopefully might be a possibility.
Fullmetal99012 said:
I don't understand too much about android ROM development, but what would prevent CM14 development/future versions from being developed?
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Me either, but I think it would be the drivers. I would suspect with CM13 they can use it's current drivers but with anything Android 7.0 they would need new drivers.
Blu has updated a few devices haven't they? They have to develop the drivers and then run it through the carriers approval I believe? I'm sure they are looking at how much money they expect to make from the R1 HD in 4-6 months. Some of this might depend on their plans of a new phone they plan to release. R1 HD is a big seller.... but what about in 6 months?
A device tree is very likely being compiled for this device now that the kernel source has been released. A CM 13 build I'd imagine is also in the works with other custom roms likely to follow. I would just sit back and keep your eye out. As soon as customs ROMs are released you should easily find them in R1 HD Forums on XDA. I wouldnt hold your breath for anything beyond android 6.0 on this device tho! Marshmallow ROMs will be more then sufficient for these devices and most devs really don't like to hear when this or that will be updated or released.
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I wouldnt hold your breath for anything beyond android 6.0 on this device tho! Marshmallow ROMs will be more then sufficient for these devices and most devs really don't like to hear when this or that will be updated or released.
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No, I'm pretty sure once devs can build AOSP 6.0 for this device, it'll get 7.0, even if BLU abandons it. I mean, you do realize that you're on a website famous for, among other things, providing unofficial updates to unsupported devices, right?
cmason37 said:
No, I'm pretty sure once devs can build AOSP 6.0 for this device, it'll get 7.0, even if BLU abandons it. I mean, you do realize that you're on a website famous for, among other things, providing unofficial updates to unsupported devices, right?
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Yeah I know exactly where I am bro. The fact that its such a low cost device and the unlikely hood of Blu updating the kernel source to 7.0 makes it very very unlikely there will ever be any kind of 7.0 update on these phones. Plenty of unofficial updates of ROMs are released but not many are above the "official" releases like going from 5.0 to 6.0 or 6.0 to 7.0. Were still waiting to see how Devs react to the R1 HD now since its not a big name mainstream device. So like I was saying if we don't see Blu update to 7.0 which is doubtful, we prob won't see any kind of Nuaget. Not saying its impossible without a Blu update just wouldn't hold my breath waiting on a Dev to take on that task on this particular device....
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Yeah I know exactly where I am bro. The fact that its such a low cost device and the unlikely hood of Blu updating the kernel source to 7.0 makes it very very unlikely there will ever be any kind of 7.0 update on these phones. Plenty of unofficial updates of ROMs are released but not many are above the "official" releases like going from 5.0 to 6.0 or 6.0 to 7.0. Were still waiting to see how Devs react to the R1 HD now since its not a big name mainstream device. So like I was saying if we don't see Blu update to 7.0 which is doubtful, we prob won't see any kind of Nuaget. Not saying its impossible without a Blu update just wouldn't hold my breath waiting on a Dev to take on that task on this particular device....
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"Not a big name mainstream device"
Totally man. The number 1 selling phone on Amazon isn't a "big name, mainstream device." If anything this phone is proving how Android development is dwindling.
There was a article that said Blu would release Android 7.0 for the R1 HD. I don't know how reliable or legitimate it is.
dba415 said:
There was a article that said Blu would release Android 7.0 for the R1 HD. I don't know how reliable or legitimate it is.
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They probably did say it, BLU has a history of promising upgrades, they rarely deliver. I don't know if the blame is theirs or their Chinese partners, not delivering. But even at that if BLU was smart they would hire a team of developers to actually develop roms instead of just simple branding tweaks on the manufacturer supplied firmware. BLU needs to tweak their sales routine, currently they sell flashy looking phones on the cheap, but if they would change their focus to selling entry to mid level phones with better support, they could really make a name for themselves.
Has BLU committed to a 7.0 update in any way? That would make it a nice value.
Nintonito said:
Has BLU committed to a 7.0 update in any way? That would make it a nice value.
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BLU does not have a very good track record with maintaining or updating their devices... If not for Amazon that variant would still be stuck on 6.1.... But it is a nice phone for the price.... We would stand a better chance of getting Nougat if everyone that bought the device contributed to a fund, and paid Tinno to develop it....
Never mind Nougat! I want the damn voLTE update that they promised and never delivered. http://forum.xda-developers.com/r1-hd/how-to/amazon-reviews-influence-blu-to-release-t3470582
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Never mind Nougat! I want the damn voLTE update that they promised and never delivered. http://forum.xda-developers.com/r1-hd/how-to/amazon-reviews-influence-blu-to-release-t3470582
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Well you know technically we could sue them for false advertising and not going through with promises made to the end user. However, that is more hassle than its worth.
Nintonito said:
Has BLU committed to a 7.0 update in any way? That would make it a nice value.
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They promised Android 7.0 last I heard .
Autolounge said:
They promised Android 7.0 last I heard .
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Source?
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Source?
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I'm not too sure. I'll look into it and see if I can get the source.
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Has BLU committed to a 7.0 update in any way? That would make it a nice value.
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I don't think so, the only phones receive the Android 7.0 OS Update are of Nexus, Samsung, LG, Motorolla, HTC and OnePlus. There is no mentioning of BLU. But if you want to see in detail then here is the source :
Name of site :- Techtimes.com
Topic name :- Android 7.0 Nougat: Here's A List Of Phones That Will Receive The Android 7.0 OS Update
I am a newbie on Xda and unable to insert the link in the post that's why I do like this but anybody who see this can give a link
I'm really liking some of the nougat feature modules coming out for xposed framework. Like Android N-ify and Assistant Enabler.
yaconsult said:
I'm really liking some of the nougat feature modules coming out for xposed framework. Like Android N-ify and Assistant Enabler.
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How did you get the assistant enabled ? I tried but no go ;(
I don't know if this article is right but I hope it is: https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...2KHnKai9JXiPC2yeQ&sig2=yVlX8vvx2WrBa4TUEXzyIQ
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How did you get the assistant enabled ? I tried but no go ;(
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Those are the names of the two Xposed modules that I installed.
Lukebluetiger said:
I don't know if this article is right but I hope it is: http://thegadgetsfreak.com/blu-r1-hd-is-a-budget-smartphone-upgradable-to-android-nougat/
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Better not expect it. Marshmallow still respectable, especially for general users who don't care if their phones got current version.
Not holding my breath
Would be nice. Sucks to buy a new phone only to find the NEXT android OS version comes out with new functionality like google assistant right after, and the phone MFR is all "sorry not upgrading that model" :silly:
Yeah, but it's much easier to take lack of updates on a $60 phone than a $600 phone!
Lenovo dropped updates on my, then $230, Moto G LTE xt1045 only 10 months after it was released. And that update from kitkat to lollipop was reported to have lots of problems.
Really? It's a 60 dollar phone it's already a heck of a value. It's not like 7 has any must have feature.
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Not yet xD
BLU did promise (actually "with a guaranteed update to Android 7.0.") to Android Authority during an interview about the BLU r1 HD, http://www.androidauthority.com/blu-r1-hd-announced-700951/
"US based, BLU Products, announced a new budget smartphone to its lineup for the US market. The BLU R1 HD is sold unlocked, backed by a 2500mAh battery and is currently one of the few devices yet, confirmed to run the upcoming Android 7.0 Nougat when it arrives later this year."
Will be interesting if we actually see Nougat since we haven't even seen LTE band 12 yet and that was promised by both Amazon and BLU R1 HD (shortly after release) 5 months later no update yet.
I would expect an CM rom or something to be completed and working perfectly before BLU officially releases a Nougat update.
oponewbie said:
BLU did promise (actually "with a guaranteed update to Android 7.0.") to Android Authority during an interview about the BLU r1 HD, http://www.androidauthority.com/blu-r1-hd-announced-700951/
"US based, BLU Products, announced a new budget smartphone to its lineup for the US market. The BLU R1 HD is sold unlocked, backed by a 2500mAh battery and is currently one of the few devices yet, confirmed to run the upcoming Android 7.0 Nougat when it arrives later this year."
Will be interesting if we actually see Nougat since we haven't even seen LTE band 12 yet and that was promised by both Amazon and BLU R1 HD (shortly after release) 5 months later no update yet.
I would expect an CM rom or something to be completed and working perfectly before BLU officially releases a Nougat update.
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http://www.tmonews.com/2016/11/blu-r1-hd-update-adds-support-t-mobile-volte-band-12-lte/
There's the new band. So have faith!
I'm thinking buy this phone this week, it will recieve a Nougat's update ?
I'm thinking of buying P9+.
I've been looking xda and I'm wondering, why aren't there custom ROM's for this phone?
Is it not interesting to developers? It's not so new, that can't be it. Is it so good no-one want's to tweak it?
It can be rooted. Is it fairly easy? Root helps
But I really like trying different ROMs and "make it mine"
it's so good out of the box!
After years with Sammy devices, those i flash directly out of box, hardly start them stock ever.
But with P9+ i don't need that, this **** fit me perfectly!
That is not an xda answer...
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terhiha said:
I'm thinking of buying P9+.
I've been looking xda and I'm wondering, why aren't there custom ROM's for this phone?
Is it not interesting to developers? It's not so new, that can't be it. Is it so good no-one want's to tweak it?
It can be rooted. Is it fairly easy? Root helps
But I really like trying different ROMs and "make it mine"
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You know how it is... The more attention a phone gets, the more it attracts new developers and that equals new roms and stuff
Also the fact is that it is rather difficult for developers to actually make new roms for phones that haven't released a "working" source code slash libs for it.
Masze has right though, it works really well with it's EMUI4.1(1), smooth as Google vanilla firmware. Not much bloat at all. And it has a very good theme engine, there is already themes here which used together with Nova launcher Beta looks/behaves very close to stock Android. The phone is very speedy and with a great screen(S-AMOLED), only thing really sucking is the unpossibility to use Googles latest security patches. I use leaked firmware for my region(B181) so at least I have the September patch, but I would really like to have the latest patches shortly after they arrive. That's the biggest con of Huawei.
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Masze has right though, it works really well with it's EMUI4.1(1), smooth as Google vanilla firmware. Not much bloat at all. And it has a very good theme engine, there is already themes here which used together with Nova launcher Beta looks/behaves very close to stock Android. The phone is very speedy and with a great screen(S-AMOLED), only thing really sucking is the unpossibility to use Googles latest security patches. I use leaked firmware for my region(B181) so at least I have the September patch, but I would really like to have the latest patches shortly after they arrive. That's the biggest con of Huawei.
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agree, i'm still on freakin June patch. Still waiting for OTA.
B181 OTA downloading just now
terhiha said:
B181 OTA downloading just now
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Model?
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masze said:
Model?
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VIE L09, finland
masze said:
agree, i'm still on freakin June patch. Still waiting for OTA.
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Flash it manually?
I'm on B190, Oct 1 patch.
Although supposedly that was only a partial patch, with Google release a full one on Oct 5 fixing more critical bugs.
Would be nice if OEMs (not just Huawei) at least released security updates soon after release.
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Masze has right though, it works really well with it's EMUI4.1(1), smooth as Google vanilla firmware. Not much bloat at all. And it has a very good theme engine, there is already themes here which used together with Nova launcher Beta looks/behaves very close to stock Android. The phone is very speedy and with a great screen(S-AMOLED), only thing really sucking is the unpossibility to use Googles latest security patches. I use leaked firmware for my region(B181) so at least I have the September patch, but I would really like to have the latest patches shortly after they arrive. That's the biggest con of Huawei.
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Yes I also agree with u. The phone is just amazing. I don't need any custom rom for it as the original functions are so good and so practical.
I saw many people mentioned about security patch but not quite sure what is it and how would it affect our phone? Is it easier to be hacked or ? Anything if we don't update the security patch?
Yes, Google releases security patches monthly mostly because they have been forced to do so by EU and US authorities. The reason is that Android is constantly under heavy attack from hackers and there is several new exploits each month. The most severe is those which takes over your phone just by connecting to a website. Anyway, Google monthly releases patches for those new exploits, the problem is Android is severely fragmented so the only really updated phones are Goggle vanilla Android on Nexus/Pixel or AOSP. Huawei is not the worst offender on being slow, but certainly not the quickest. And there is no known active developer of AOSP for P9 Plus.
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Huawei is not the worst offender on being slow, but certainly not the quickest. And there is no known active developer of AOSP for P9 Plus.
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I would say that Huawei is one of the slowest manufacturer to bring security updates.
Samsung is nowadays one of the fastest.
One bad example is P9 Plus. Huawei flagship (before Mate 9) and still the latest security update is from June and we are already on December.
That's six month after Google releases.
Pay 700$ for a phone and have no support from manufacturer afterwards. Welcome to Huawei customer...
sobelixtus said:
I would say that Huawei is one of the slowest manufacturer to bring security updates.
Samsung is nowadays one of the fastest.
One bad example is P9 Plus. Huawei flagship (before Mate 9) and still the latest security update is from June and we are already on December.
That's six month after Google releases.
Pay 700$ for a phone and have no support from manufacturer afterwards. Welcome to Huawei customer...
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They do have reasonably quick support, but only for certain markets. Earlier today I installed a rom with security patches for November made for the operator Telekom. It works alright but it's certainly not official for my country. For the Chinese market they are already on Android 7 Nougat. One wishes they could synchronize their releases a LOT better.
Recently, we noticed lots of OP3/3T users asking questions related to future software support for their devices. To better keep everyone in the loop, we invited @oliver Z. , our Head of Product to answer some of the most commonly asked questions from the community.
David: Hi Oliver. First, could you please explain why many more updates were released for the OP5 than the OP3/3T in recent times?
Oliver: Sure, we have been gathering plenty of user feedback on the OP5 following the launch in mid-June. We dedicated our efforts in the first 1-2 months after release to better satisfy users’ needs and boost our latest product’s capabilities.
Normally, we release a new Official Release (OTA) update every 1-2 months. If you’d like to taste some of the latest OxygenOS features earlier, and receive updates more frequently, you’re more than welcome to join our Open Beta Program. Currently, we release Open Beta updates for the OP3/3T approximately once every month.
David: Some users asked why some new features, which are available through the Open Beta Program, are not implemented in the stable build releases on the OP3/3T?
Oliver: We’ve always positioned the Beta Program as a public laboratory for new features, feedback, and bug testing. This helps us improve the code of all of our MP builds. We unfortunately, cannot guarantee every feature present in the Open Betas will transition to the Official releases. Often times, even though the feature seems stable enough in the Beta builds, they are not ready or do not meet our quality standards for public release. (And yes, sometimes we test the value of upcoming features through the Open Beta Program for release in new or upcoming devices or later software updates.) In some situations, our limited development and QT resources force us to bring these features to one device first. These features are then introduced on other older devices further down the road. We love how the program has grown, but we do have to admit that we still have room to improve and better optimize the Open Beta Program.
Also, I’d like to take this opportunity to thank our users who have joined either our Closed Beta Program or our Open Beta Program. You have all helped us shape the functionalities and quality of OxygenOS.
David: What are you planning with regards to security updates for the OP3/3T?
Oliver: In keeping with the original schedule, we planned to update OxygenOS on the OP3/3T to version 4.5, with the latest security patch level update, in the next 1-2 months. However, some feedback from the community caught our attention and we decided to tweak it a little bit. We’ll split the update into two parts. First, we’ll update the security patch level to August, which will be released soon. The OxygenOS 4.5 update will be released at the scheduled time.
David: So the OP3/3T will soon catch up with the current version on the OP5, but some features on the OP5 will not be available on the OP3/3T, right?
Oliver: Yes, those missing features are mainly a result of hardware differences, such as the availability of Reading Mode on the OP5, which depends on the RGB sensor. The OP3/3T don’t have that hardware interface, so we are unable to release this feature on these two devices. The same reason applies to the new off-screen gestures and DCI-P3 screen calibration.
David: My last question is very important to OP3/3T users. How long will the OP3/3T continue to receive software support?
Oliver: Android O is going to be the last Android version update we’ll release for OP3/3T. We’ll continue to release security patch updates for the foreseeable future, and offer support for individual application updates. After the OP3/3T have been updated to Android O, we’ll start moving the Open Beta Program from OP3/3T to OP5.
Alright that's all I wanted to ask. Did you find answers to all of your questions? If not, leave your questions in the comments below and we’ll get back to you soon. Thank you all and enjoy the upcoming weekend!
Yours,
David
Friends I am sharing this just FYI that OP3/3T support is going to receive O and few updates after that and then the open beta program will move to OP5 and slowly the support for OP3/3T will end as usual with older models.
With in a year the OP3 has turned as old device ..?[emoji22] ..opting OP3 is very bad experience.
Stop selling the product in Amazon India..
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android.reddy143 said:
With in a year the OP3 has turned as old device ..?[emoji22] ..opting OP3 is very bad experience.
Stop selling the product in Amazon India..
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Not sure what you really expected. This has been the companies MO since day one. If you thought it would be different then no one is at fault other then you. Do the needed research and you will be fine. Also just a news flash but the every device is old by the time you get it. Heck unless you compile the OS your selfe then your software is outdated as well.
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Not sure what you really expected. This has been the companies MO since day one. If you thought it would be different then no one is at fault other then you. Do the needed research and you will be fine. Also just a news flash but the every device is old by the time you get it. Heck unless you compile the OS your selfe then your software is outdated as well.
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I did not understand what exactly you would like to convey.
You mean that , OP no exception , compare to any other organization? If you agree that ..all other companies respect thire flagship devices at most recent, even though they release different flagships in a year.
And other vendors are not able to provide software update very frequently due to various reasons ex. Hadware compatibility, upcoming model in the same price...etc. Here they did not annouce anything from company for flagships.
OP had releases flagship devices and no support get from company? Strange...[emoji15][emoji24]
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I did not understand what exactly you would like to convey.
You mean that , OP no exception , compare to any other organization? If you agree that ..all other companies respect thire flagship devices at most recent, even though they release different flagships in a year.
And other vendors are not able to provide software update very frequently due to various reasons ex. Hadware compatibility, upcoming model in the same price...etc. Here they did not annouce anything from company for flagships.
OP had releases flagship devices and no support get from company? Strange...[emoji15][emoji24]
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When O comes out the device will be about 18 months old. The same cut off point that other flagships offer. Some flagships never even see an update.
What I mean to convey is simple. If you are worried about updates then the only way to be sure is to get a device that you can build the OS for yourself. Most devices (even Flagships) come with outdated kernels and to be up to date you would have to flash every single day and sometimes a few times a day.
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I did not understand what exactly you would like to convey.
You mean that , OP no exception , compare to any other organization? If you agree that ..all other companies respect thire flagship devices at most recent, even though they release different flagships in a year.
And other vendors are not able to provide software update very frequently due to various reasons ex. Hadware compatibility, upcoming model in the same price...etc. Here they did not annouce anything from company for flagships.
OP had releases flagship devices and no support get from company? Strange...[emoji15][emoji24]
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Actually you get a damm lot support. Look how many updates there have been. Samsung still runs 7.0 if you have a Huawei you get 6 updates spreaded around 2 years, those updates contain minor bug fixes nothing special at all. And so on. You paid €400 for a phone and expect everything!
People complain at anything, Every device is supported for 24 months or less.. in most cases 18 or less Be glad it's getting O and not the sh!t show OP2 was.. But I give credit where it's due to OP my OP3 has had way more updates and fixes than my S7 Edge and that costs twice the price.. and still running outdated sh!tty 7.0.. So all isn't bad as long as OP keeps their devices up to date and fast with source code I can see them being the device to go to for Modding as such
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With in a year the OP3 has turned as old device ..?[emoji22] ..opting OP3 is very bad experience.
Stop selling the product in Amazon India..
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We got or will get 3 major android versions on op3, thats actually pretty good for a manufacturer. What did you expect?
MarcTremonti said:
We got or will get 3 major android versions on op3, thats actually pretty good for a manufacturer. What did you expect?
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The device did not get 3 major android versions as that would mean it came out with 5.0 but it came out with 6.0 even though 7.1 had been out when it was released.
Either way. The device should be ok for unofficial updates for atleast another year or 2 before the lack of updated kernel source will make the updates less.
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The device did not get 3 major android versions as that would mean it came out with 5.0 but it came out with 6.0 even though 7.1 had been out when it was released.
Either way. The device should be ok for unofficial updates for atleast another year or 2 before the lack of updated kernel source will make the updates less.
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Read my post. I said we got or will get 3 versions.
Marshmallow, nougat und the new O. So 3 versions. And thats pretty decent.
Besides that its an ex flagship, so we will enjoy good custom rom support.
Even my old Htc One S (jellybean latest official update) recently got nougat ressurrection remix which is working flawlessly.
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Read my post. I said we got or will get 3 versions.
Marshmallow, nougat und the new O. So 3 versions. And thats pretty decent.
Besides that its an ex flagship, so we will enjoy good custom rom support.
Even my old Htc One S (jellybean latest official update) recently got nougat ressurrection remix which is working flawlessly.
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I wouldn't call it a flagship but close enough.
It shipped with 6.0 when it should have shipped with 7.0 at least. So I don't count that at all.
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I wouldn't call it a flagship but close enough.
It shipped with 6.0 when it should have shipped with 7.0 at least. So I don't count that at all.
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OP3 Shipped in June 2016, 7.0 didn't release till August 2016..
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I wouldn't call it a flagship but close enough.
It shipped with 6.0 when it should have shipped with 7.0 at least. So I don't count that at all.
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What else to call it? It directly competed with other flagships.
And it coulndt be shipped with 7, when 7 wasnt even available to that point, lol. So you can count 6.
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What else to call it? It directly competed with other flagships.
And it coulndt be shipped with 7, when 7 wasnt even available to that point, lol. So you can count 6.
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I call it a high midrange.
No I never count the OS it comes with.
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I call it a high midrange.
No I never count the OS it comes with.
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Totally agree. The OS the phone comes with out of the box is never counted as an update. :highfive:
If we get Android O, that will be our 2nd major OS update.
I agree with others that we've definitely had better support than Samsung Flagships in the past year.
Support has been great. Look how much updates we got, next to that how many of them where useful? Alot! We got alot better support then Samsung and Huawei at least. If they bring us a proper and stable Android 8.0 I am completely fine with it! Keep in mind this only is a €399/429 phone .
Basically the title! I know the Snapdragon variant for Oreo is out and we can flash via Odin, but as far as I know all those builds get you bloatware and boot animations. I'm wondering if Oreo build is out for the unlocked version, one where you get the pure Samsung firmware without any carrier third parties.
not yet
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Sad. Thank you
You figure the unlocked phones would be the first ones to get it since there is no extra crap in the ROM, but it's not the case.
KryogenikX said:
You figure the unlocked phones would be the first ones to get it since there is no extra crap in the ROM, but it's not the case.
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It used to be that way, certainly in Europe. I expect that providers in USA have made deal with Sammy to wait with the FW updates for the unbranded/ unlocked until the providers have pushed out their updates, this to lure customers to buy phones and services from the big providers.
OnnoJ said:
It used to be that way, certainly in Europe. I expect that providers in USA have made deal with Sammy to wait with the FW updates for the unbranded/ unlocked until the providers have pushed out their updates, this to lure customers to buy phones and services from the big providers.
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Yea, does make sense.
ptheguy said:
Basically the title! I know the Snapdragon variant for Oreo is out and we can flash via Odin, but as far as I know all those builds get you bloatware and boot animations. I'm wondering if Oreo build is out for the unlocked version, one where you get the pure Samsung firmware without any carrier third parties.
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Oreo for the Snapdragon is not out yet. Just the Exynos. The Oreo builds for the Snapdragon all come from leaked OTA zips. It has not been officially released so no Oreo ODIN files exist for the N8.
Mr. Orange 645 said:
Oreo for the Snapdragon is not out yet. Just the Exynos. The Oreo builds for the Snapdragon all come from leaked OTA zips. It has not been officially released so no Oreo ODIN files exist for the N8.
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Well I wouldn't say they don't exist at all. There's an xda thread on how to flash N8 to Oreo. Issue is the build is carrier build so you get bloatware and boot animations even on an unlocked phone. But if you meant the unlocked version, then yeah I don't think there's a build out yet.
ptheguy said:
Well I wouldn't say they don't exist at all. There's an xda thread on how to flash N8 to Oreo. Issue is the build is carrier build so you get bloatware and boot animations even on an unlocked phone. But if you meant the unlocked version, then yeah I don't think there's a build out yet.
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I would say that. The thread for flashing Oreo involved using ODIN to flash a specific version of NOUGAT. Then, as I stated, you use a leaked OTA zip to update to Oreo.
So no, ODIN files for OREO are NOT available.
KryogenikX said:
You figure the unlocked phones would be the first ones to get it since there is no extra crap in the ROM, but it's not the case.
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OnnoJ said:
It used to be that way, certainly in Europe. I expect that providers in USA have made deal with Sammy to wait with the FW updates for the unbranded/ unlocked until the providers have pushed out their updates, this to lure customers to buy phones and services from the big providers.
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ptheguy said:
Basically the title! I know the Snapdragon variant for Oreo is out and we can flash via Odin, but as far as I know all those builds get you bloatware and boot animations. I'm wondering if Oreo build is out for the unlocked version, one where you get the pure Samsung firmware without any carrier third parties.
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This is actually pretty upsetting. I went out of my way, avoiding all the carriers great buy one get one deals, to buy direct from Samsung thinking I was going to get priority updates. I really honestly would have bet money on getting Oreo before the carrier Note 8's did.
Naivety at its best I guess. Meanwhile I've been running Android P on my Pixel 2 XL for almost a month now. My Note 8 will never see Android P, at least not while I own it. Kinda sad.
I wouldn't expect Oreo until near when the Note 9 comes out (in the US)
supergear said:
I wouldn't expect Oreo until near when the Note 9 comes out (in the US)
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No, that's months away, and Oreo is already rolling out for Note 8. Definitely won't be that long.
OnnoJ said:
It used to be that way, certainly in Europe. I expect that providers in USA have made deal with Sammy to wait with the FW updates for the unbranded/ unlocked until the providers have pushed out their updates, this to lure customers to buy phones and services from the big providers.
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Yeah, I agree. The sufferings of capitalism and putting money before costumers.
Anyhow, I don't get why S8 and S8+ are getting updates and Note 8 isn't. Like I haven't even heard of carriers actually releasing Note 8 OTA for Oreo yet. On the one hand, I want to be optimistic and think that's because they're implementing newer features in N8 version, or perhaps releasing Oreo 8.1. On the other, I think that's not true and they just wanna piss us off. N8 is the latest Note flagship, they gotta take care of it!
ptheguy said:
Yeah, I agree. The sufferings of capitalism and putting money before costumers.
Anyhow, I don't get why S8 and S8+ are getting updates and Note 8 isn't. Like I haven't even heard of carriers actually releasing Note 8 OTA for Oreo yet. On the one hand, I want to be optimistic and think that's because they're implementing newer features in N8 version, or perhaps releasing Oreo 8.1. On the other, I think that's not true and they just wanna piss us off. N8 is the latest Note flagship, they gotta take care of it!
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If you took a moment to search the forums before commenting that Samsung is not taking care of note8 users it would be awesome. Just because it's a flagship does not mean it will get updates first.
Note8 series is not the best selling popular Samsung phone. S series is the main bread and butter for Samsung.
Past couple of years I have been following Samsung and it's update cycle, it's always S series first and then N series.
Just have patience and again learn to use the search function sometimes. This discussion has happened multiple times and answer always is if you need immediate updates get Apple/pixel phone. If you can live with decent delayed updates, go for s series.
If you care for good hardware and build but ok update speed (updates will come for sure) note series helps .
myechophone said:
If you took a moment to search the forums before commenting that Samsung is not taking care of note8 users it would be awesome. Just because it's a flagship does not mean it will get updates first.
Note8 series is not the best selling popular Samsung phone. S series is the main bread and butter for Samsung.
Past couple of years I have been following Samsung and it's update cycle, it's always S series first and then N series.
Just have patience and again learn to use the search function sometimes. This discussion has happened multiple times and answer always is if you need immediate updates get Apple/pixel phone. If you can live with decent delayed updates, go for s series.
If you care for good hardware and build but ok update speed (updates will come for sure) note series helps .
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I know you probably think you were being helpful, but it was peppered with such an absolute undertone of condescension I don't care to read anything you ever write again.
Maybe try reading it out loud before posting next time?
Namolas said:
I know you probably think you were being helpful, but it was peppered with such an absolute undertone of condescension I don't care to read anything you ever write again.
Maybe try reading it out loud before posting next time?
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I am just making a point that people need to search the forums before posting any comments. Also no one should feel entitled that since its a flagship or they paid big bucks, that the manufacturer should drop everything and cater to their needs. Samsung never promised faster updates than s series. It has always been like that.
None the less everyone is entitled to their opinion. You can read it or choose to ignore it and move on.
Got Oreo (OTA) to my unlocked Note 8 (SM-N950F) yesterday - so at least in Europe it is out and deliveries started.
I could be wrong but.. I think this at 1st was about a PHONE. I guess life is a slap in the face to some.. they express it to all..
I manually put it on my phone. Securty update is March 1st. Never had one problem. Runs great...
Zeblade said:
I could be wrong but.. I think this at 1st was about a PHONE. I guess life is a slap in the face to some.. they express it to all..
I manually put it on my phone. Securty update is March 1st. Never had one problem. Runs great...
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I doubt you have the unlocked version one. Is it bloatware free and boot animations free?
myechophone said:
I am just making a point that people need to search the forums before posting any comments. Also no one should feel entitled that since its a flagship or they paid big bucks, that the manufacturer should drop everything and cater to their needs. Samsung never promised faster updates than s series. It has always been like that.
None the less everyone is entitled to their opinion. You can read it or choose to ignore it and move on.
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I know I know, some people will be ok even samsung releases the OREO next year. Because they never promised right... I wonder what they have promised. OMG...some people just....