Differences in pricing at launch vs actual price - OnePlus 3T Questions & Answers

Hey guys,
I am looking to buy a Oneplus 3T as soon as it launches. However, I have a question regarding its pricing.
Since, Oneplus 3 launched in China with the pricing in their currency, how close is the actual sale price (in usd or inr), when compared to the launch price in RMB?
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Well it takes roughly 6 RMB (RMB and Yuan are the samething, found that out when I went there) to make 1 USD. So once you factor that at the moment the OP3 is 2,499 RMB which equates to roughly $416.5 USD. It's somewhat hard to compare the Chinese model to the other models since they're made for different markets with different frequencies. But from the trend it looks like Chinese is roughly $15 USD more than the global version.
When I bought my OP3 along with my dads OPO and mine the prices stayed relatively the same from launch to purchase date up to 6 months later.

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Are You Willing To Spend $650.00 On A Nexus 6 ?

Well You Kinda Knew It Was Going To Happen..
When Google announced their " Silver Line " of products.. and these new products were going to go main stream retail and now it seems with the Big Four carrier's as well.. that, the price of entry was going to go up.
But an 83% increase in price over the 16 Gb entry model and roughly 62% over the 32 Gb version of the previous Nexus 5 to a whopping $650.00+ Tax.
And.. I'm sure the carrier's will offer the N6 @ $199.99 down with a commitment.. ( T-Mobile of course will go $0.00 down and 24 equal payments ) but you know the carrier versions will come with bloatware.. and will AT&T , Verizon and Sprint lock them down like they did their versions of the LG-G3 which all but halted development for that device on those carrier's?
If you can still get a *bloat free* version of the N6 directly from Google.. are you willing to pony up $650.00+ Tax & Shipping cost for the Nexus 6?
RaiderWill said:
Well You Kinda Knew It Was Going To Happen..
When Google announced their " Silver Line " of products.. and these new products were going to go main stream retail and now it seems with the Big Four carrier's as well.. that, the price of entry was going to go up.
But an 83% increase in price over the 16 Gb entry model and roughly 62% over the 32 Gb version of the previous Nexus 5 to a whopping $650.00+ Tax.
And.. I'm sure the carrier's will offer the N6 @ $199.99 down with a commitment.. ( T-Mobile of course will go $0.00 down and 24 equal payments ) but you know the carrier versions will come with bloatware.. and will AT&T , Verizon and Sprint lock them down like they did their versions of the LG-G3 which all but halted development for that device on those carrier's?
If you can still get a *bloat free* version of the N6 directly from Google.. are you willing to pony up $650.00+ Tax & Shipping cost for the Nexus 6?
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I am pretty sure they will do the same like Motorola and keep the price relatively low
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$650.00 is the price..
I'm in Canada, and it's 750$. It's a little too steep for me. I'll hold off for as long as my Nexus 4 is still relevant.
Price of the phones here are pretty much all the same anyway (mostly $600+) so I'm used to that [emoji19]
But the N6 looks like a direct competitor to the Note4… Hmm hard decision.
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Nope I'm not paying
Nope. Was hoping to buy the 64gb one, but $700 is too much for me on a phone. I might have paid $600. Some day maybe, when the resale price drops. Hopefully there's no supply/production issues, and new resales don't get inflated like they did with the OnePlus One.
Bought a used Note 3 off Swappa for $350 instead. T-Mobile one too, so at least I can root it easily and if I get flash-happy and feel like setting the KNOX counter to 0x1, at least I can try some ROMs and kernels.
I've seen it live, it's an amazing phone! It feels great in hands and it's moving like the wind on the web and apps!
I'm still hoping the new and/or "cheaper" companies will push into the western market and stop this inflational pricing, like the Moto G or OnePlusOne
definitely won't pay 500 bucks or more for a phone
If I had the money I would have not paid $650 even for a Nexus phone plus this is too much considering I could get a phone with almost the same specs half of the price. I'll just get a Nexus 5 or Nexus 9(depending on the price)
650USD...That's about 500 Euro.
Do you lot realize that's what the Nexus 5 cost when they finally managed to import it to the Netherlands, several bloody months after the release?...
Ths Nexus 6 doesn't even have a price here yet, but if you think 640 is bad, the average price for a high-end smartphone here is 800 euro, 1025USD.
So yes, I would happily pay 500 euro for it. If it had a MicroSD slot, anyway.
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It's hard decision to make, I have a Nexus 4 and skipped N5 for N6, but completely in splits right now. There is no official info on price here in India, but 650 USD translates to Rs. 39,750 and 699 USD means Rs. 42,750, I guess there will be local taxes, if I consider other flagships, S5 Exynos is down at Rs. 37,000, G3 at Rs. 40,000, Z3 is at Rs. 49,999, so taking these into consideration the asking price for N6 is okayish, but when I consider the reported OPO launch in India at the end of the year at Rs. 22,000 and the Moto X (2014) at Rs. 31,999.. I am not able to make my mind up.. both of these are great devices and they will eventually get Lollipop.
PS: I almost forgot the monstrous Lenovo Vibe Z2 here with 801, 3GB, 16MP OIS Cam, a 6" QHD Screen and a healthy 400 mAh battery available at Rs. 32,999/- Its hard decision to make!
Short answer: Hell no.
Long answer: Considering how expensive new smartphones are, its no surprise how expensive the N6 is. Some rather rich people or Nexus fans will get it, but I have never bought a smartphone over €300.-
My current phone, the Z Ultra, fulfills everything I want and I bought it for only €250.- 3 months ago. The difference between Snapdragon 800 and 805 are not that big, at least in everyday use.
Well, at least I hope this nexus will have a better quality and purchase availability.
Considering that the new nexus is 6 coll, well...
My Z ultra isnt that out of standard anymore.
shadowcore said:
Short answer: Hell no.
Long answer: Considering how expensive new smartphones are, its no surprise how expensive the N6 is. Some rather rich people or Nexus fans will get it, but I have never bought a smartphone over €300.-
My current phone, the Z Ultra, fulfills everything I want and I bought it for only €250.- 3 months ago. The difference between Snapdragon 800 and 805 are not that big, at least in everyday use.
Well, at least I hope this nexus will have a better quality and purchase availability.
Considering that the new nexus is 6 coll, well...
My Z ultra isnt that out of standard anymore.
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^ this. I still own a GNexus, skipped n4/n5 for a n6 (to be honest, 6 was not meant as "6 inch display" but as n5 successor)
I think I will get a One Plus Two (?) or something like that
Willing? Yes
Able? HAH! :laugh:
not really
Paying that much for a device, which decreases in price pretty quickly is like buying a new car: if you really like it and you won't get buyers remorse, feel free. Not for me, though.
The price is a bit high.
What I really don't like about the Nexus 6 is the long hole below, it looks too much like a Moto and it just doesn't look good with it.
Price in Norway is $865 for the 32GB version.
Hopefully the price will go down a bit when it's available in the Play store and other stores here.
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N6 vs N6P price

Looking to buy a new nexus. The prices are both $499 for the N6 and the N6P. Called google to get an answer as to why they are priced the same if one is this year's model and one is last years model. Got an answer that Google's higher ups set the pricing. That was it. Can anyone find out more info as to why this is true.. Is there something wrong with the N6P that Google decided to keep last years model in the running at the same price?
The N6 is cheaper in a lot of shops than the $500 you say. But the N6 is still a very good phone, and the N6P only beats it in the camera quality.
Avasta said:
Looking to buy a new nexus. The prices are both $499 for the N6 and the N6P. ......... Is there something wrong with the N6P that Google decided to keep last years model in the running at the same price?
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Here in NL the prices are: 610 euro (N6p 32Gb) and 375 euro (N6 32Gb).
the only real up side for the 6P (to me) is the slightly narrower frame, and the camera. I didn't think i would care about wireless charging, until the used n6 i bought came with 2 cheotech chargers. I use it as my primary charging method for both my n6 and my wife's s6.

so, where to buy in USA without getting price gouged?

So, I've checked out the pages in blackphantom's list of 'where to buy' (https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3514744) this phone, but of those sites that I have examined, the prices being charged are all several hundred dollars higher than the base price (supposed to be around five hundred, with most sites charging 700-800 and up). any suggestions? i bought my oneplus one for 350, even here in the states, and i love it. i honestly still do not have an actual 'reason' to buy another phone right now, even though my phone is 2.5 years old (still works like a freaking champ, and it's gorgeous, imho). the mi mix is the first phone in a while that looked like something i would consider upgrading to, but i'm not going to spend more than five hundred dollars on a phone, particularly when my phone is still kicking it.
any suggestions?
Just wait until after CES & MWC 2017 pass by,along with the usual Q1-early Q2 phone announcements/releases.
Limited production quantities of 10k/month is the reason for the 3rd party mark-up.
If you live outside of China, it's the price you're gonna pay.No one here has paid the MSRP w/o a mark-up & that will be the case until other mfgs emulate this design.
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Holding out for CES 2017 is a good idea. Xiaomi will be there. There is a white variant that has been leaked on the Xiaomi official forum, which is quite ugly. Personally, I would prefer a North American version of this thing. If they don't release one, hopefully the buzz about other devices will bring the prices down a little.
Yup. There isn't one. Best I found was on Swappa.
http://www.xiaomidevice.com/xiaomi-mi-mix-pro-6gb-256gb.html
Swappa.com. Got mine for $500 in like new condition. Arrived at my house 2 days after purchase.
Swappa, got my 256 GB gold edition Mint like new for 580

Price in EU (<€1200 now).

It's now sub 1200 Euros in Germany, if you look around a bit. Nearing 1100 in a few places.
Price has cratered harder and faster than any phone in living memory.
Samsung must be pumping these out of the factory pretty quickly, and not intending for new models to take as long as Fold 1 to Fold 2.
I can see this going below 1000 around Black Friday, and definitely by the New Year. If it's not already replaced by the end of Q1 '21, I'd imagine the phone might see significant development and community involvement, below 1k.
You're insane.
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Really, care to explain why? Lowest retail price has dropped over 700 Euros in less than 2 months.
Samsung are well known for front-loading pricing, and quickly tapering it to distributors and wholesalers, but it's never been quite like this. The device is clearly intended to sell in volume, and not be the flagship for anything like as long as the Fold 1.
Re: development, plenty of 800-1200 Euro devices see lots of development.
mudnightoil said:
It's now sub 1200 Euros in Germany, if you look around a bit. Nearing 1100 in a few places.
Price has cratered harder and faster than any phone in living memory.
Samsung must be pumping these out of the factory pretty quickly, and not intending for new models to take as long as Fold 1 to Fold 2.
I can see this going below 1000 around Black Friday, and definitely by the New Year. If it's not already replaced by the end of Q1 '21, I'd imagine the phone might see significant development and community involvement, below 1k.
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Some links as evidence of brand new / unused prices as per your post?
The €1200 price you mention is a scam. No one is getting the phone for that price.
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In the next two days I am going to buy a brand new in box Z Fold2 for €1.000 or less in Germany.
Not from a shop (several are offering them for €1.150 already) granted, but in Germany a lot of Z Fold2 have been included in a subscription renewal package where people just keep their current phone and monetize the Z Fold2.
I see the prices going down almost daily. It's a simple matter of supply and demand.
Check out https://www.ebay-kleinanzeigen.de/
The same thing happened with previous Samsung flagships.
LG devices also depreciate very quickly, but that is because noboby wants them and LG has to lower the RRP to sell them.
Flavio said:
In the next two days I am going to buy a brand new in box Z Fold2 for €1.000 or less in Germany.
Not from a shop (several are offering them for €1.150 already) granted, but in Germany a lot of Z Fold2 have been included in a subscription renewal package where people just keep their current phone and monetize the Z Fold2.
I see the prices going down almost daily. It's a simple matter of supply and demand.
Check out https://www.ebay-kleinanzeigen.de/
The same thing happened with previous Samsung flagships.
LG devices also depreciate very quickly, but that is because noboby wants them and LG has to lower the RRP to sell them.
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No phones at that link.
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Wow, never used a search box?
https://www.ebay-kleinanzeigen.de/s...+handy_telekom.device_equipment_s:only_device
StormCell said:
The €1200 price you mention is a scam. No one is getting the phone for that price.
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I know it's probably a foreign concept, but supply chains and retail channels are relatively competitive in Europe .. particularly Germany.
Probably seems unreal to you when informal price fixing in a hugely non-competitive market rules in the US ... and you just got a Verizon Fold 2 for $$$$$$$$$$, with no hope of waiting for discounts.
Why do you think anyone with a clue in the US buys from European retailers? Price including tax in Europe (which you don't pay) is usually much cheaper than price excluding tax at US retailers, save for Apple. That's what no competition does.
And now you're mad and refuse to believe anything.
Flavio said:
Wow, never used a search box?
https://www.ebay-kleinanzeigen.de/s...+handy_telekom.device_equipment_s:only_device
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Those are pretty much all either used or branded / locked to a network.
Show me a link to a commercial seller who sells sim free new sealed box Fold2 including full 2 year official Samsung warranty ... if you can't then just delete this thread
Not true, as I have explained most of them are new in wrapped box with full Samsung European warranty.
And as far as I know no German provider sells these branded and/or SIMlocked.
dezborders said:
Those are pretty much all either used or branded / locked to a network.
Show me a link to a commercial seller who sells sim free new sealed box Fold2 including full 2 year official Samsung warranty ... if you can't then just delete this thread
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Lol.
Are you really not able to use price comparison sites or enter search terms and use filters on Ebay?
Rhetorical question. Evidently not.
Flavio said:
Not true, as I have explained most of them are new in wrapped box with full Samsung European warranty.
And as far as I know no German provider sells these branded and/or SIMlocked.
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I don't think any contract phones have been branded / locked for 5-6 years in DE ... and he appears to be implying these are secondhand contract phones. I'm not even sure heavily subsidised pay as you go phones are branded anymore.
Lowest retail price for sealed NIB Fold 2 in DE is 1149.99 today. It has been lower. Trend is still downwards quickly though.
I bought one of these z fold 2 of Germany.
1215€ and came sealed... I activated Samsung care+
I dont know the reason of the low prize of those phones, but are real and legal.
ricksmad said:
I bought one of these z fold 2 of Germany.
1215€ and came sealed... I activated Samsung care+
I dont know the reason of the low prize of those phones, but are real and legal.
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Another one that bought the phone on ebay on the german market.
At the beginning I thought it was not real, but it cames everything brand new and the price with the discount of 50€ you can get it for 1.215€.
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santjust said:
Another one that bought the phone on ebay on the german market.
At the beginning I thought it was not real, but it cames everything brand new and the price with the discount of 50€ you can get it for 1.215€.
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I bought this Fold 2 for one month ago too in Germany ebay kleinanzeigen 1350 Euro) . some people buy buissness phone cards with a fold 2 and they sell the fold 2 and use the phone card.
Now it is sometimes a little bit cheaper but ok .... I use it for over a month now and I love this phone ! So great stuff Samsung did here ...
You can buy these used for around $1400 US off of Ebay (which is around 1250 Euro, which is what I see it for on the German eBay site). Hoping for a slight bit more of a price drop from Black Friday, but I noticed that Samsung is still selling it for its original price, and they've dropped the price of trade ins by around $200.
I don't know why anyone would have paid full price in the US as it was on sale the opening day at every possible outlet and you would have had to literally give them more money than they were asking for the device in order to pay MSRP; I paid 1600 directly from Samsung's site on pre-order for the unlocked variant and others did better. Day one the latest greatest is always going to be more expensive than it will be just a short time later; you all know that, I'm not telling you something you didn't know. You do need to put it on a level playing field though, you can't compare the MSRP here to the actual price somewhere else at a different time, you have to compare actual price at the same specific time in order to get a valid comparison.
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I don't know why anyone would have paid full price in the US as it was on sale the opening day at every possible outlet and you would have had to literally give them more money than they were asking for the device in order to pay MSRP; I paid 1600 directly from Samsung's site on pre-order for the unlocked variant and others did better. Day one the latest greatest is always going to be more expensive than it will be just a short time later; you all know that, I'm not telling you something you didn't know. You do need to put it on a level playing field though, you can't compare the MSRP here to the actual price somewhere else at a different time, you have to compare actual price at the same specific time in order to get a valid comparison.
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I'm looking to buy it again, and I'm not seeing all these great deals. Samsung's site is $1999, unless you trade in a device. The deals on eBay are ok for a used device, but not great. Amazon has some refurbs for $300 off, which is ok, but again, it's a refurb, to which they only promise that you won't notice a problem "holding it at arm's length". I haven't seen any sign of a new unit coming down in price from $2k.
Flavio said:
In the next two days I am going to buy a brand new in box Z Fold2 for €1.000 or less in Germany.
Not from a shop (several are offering them for €1.150 already) granted, but in Germany a lot of Z Fold2 have been included in a subscription renewal package where people just keep their current phone and monetize the Z Fold2.
I see the prices going down almost daily. It's a simple matter of supply and demand.
Check out https://www.ebay-kleinanzeigen.de/
The same thing happened with previous Samsung flagships.
LG devices also depreciate very quickly, but that is because noboby wants them and LG has to lower the RRP to sell them.
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Be very wary of purchasing a phone tied to a network contract.
These phones may get blacklisted a few months down the line if the original owner doesn't pay the bill, or if they have insurance and claim a month or two later that it has been lost or stolen.
... I know this from experience ... you could end up with a 1000 euro "tablet" that cannot use a sim card anywhere in EU
dezborders said:
Be very wary of purchasing a phone tied to a network contract.
These phones may get blacklisted a few months down the line if the original owner doesn't pay the bill, or if they have insurance and claim a month or two later that it has been lost or stolen.
... I know this from experience ... you could end up with a 1000 euro "tablet" that cannot use a sim card anywhere in EU
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It's good advice, and I am worried about it. I see a number of devices for sale that say they're on a contract. Kind of terrifying that someone decides to switch providers and suddenly my phone is blacklisted.
Starting to hope for a Black Friday sale!

Question Where to buy?

Where is everyone picking these up at? Sale Prices?
Nice question.
I bought it on AliExpress when the early bird discount was on, you can still purchase it for the normal retail price, they ship from China, Spain, France and/or Poland.
Ok, Thanks. I will wait for it to go back on sale in the future... shouldn't take long to be back on sale with all the new phones being released.
I've been keeping an eye on Aliexpress these days and found the price fluctuating a lot. Alarmingly so.
And there're not many sellers having this phone, so the choices are limited.
I have a feeling that Xiaomi is spitting new phones way too fast that the retailers and consumers can't keep up.
I bought from Aliexpress launch special at https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Wor...108MP-Camera-Snapdragon/1005002136612866.html
Arrived yesterday so ~16 days after ordering to Brisbane, Australia
came to AUD$379 after local cashback rewards applied on top of special
Xiaomi’s $260 Redmi Note 10 Pro has a 120Hz screen and a 108-megapixel camera
It’s the Redmi Note 10 Pro Max in India
www.theverge.com
$260 sounds good but everywhere I look online it's well over $300
SirDigitalKnight said:
Xiaomi’s $260 Redmi Note 10 Pro has a 120Hz screen and a 108-megapixel camera
It’s the Redmi Note 10 Pro Max in India
www.theverge.com
$260 sounds good but everywhere I look online it's well over $300
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That's the Indian price though, other regions have different pricing.

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