Sony IMX 398 - OnePlus 3T Questions & Answers

Hi,
So what do you think or know about this new sensor?
I'm currently using my Nexus 5X to take photos and I'm hoping the Sony IMX 398 i the OP 3T will at least be just as good or maybe better (although I guess it'll prob be worse then the latest google pixel camera)

The IMX 398 has 1.7 aperture. How could be worse than the Google pixel's camera? If it will has OIS ,I think it will be the best phone camera ever.

G4B33 said:
The IMX 398 has 1.7 aperture. How could be worse than the Google pixel's camera? If it will has OIS ,I think it will be the best phone camera ever.
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Just saw a screen of specs that has been taken down that stated it has both EIS and OIS... we'll have to wait and see.

G4B33 said:
The IMX 398 has 1.7 aperture. How could be worse than the Google pixel's camera? If it will has OIS ,I think it will be the best phone camera ever.
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nope the rear cam remains the same IMX 298
front camera bumped to 16MP Samsung 3P8SP sensor

Ben Ling said:
nope the rear cam remains the same IMX 298
front camera bumped to 16MP Samsung 3P8SP sensor
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Yes, big bummer for me. Really had great hopes for a new sensor. No oneplus 3T for me

same for me, i love taking pictures but the Pixel is too expensive

I have a doubt
There is still time to change my OP3 with OP3T, since they are not past due 15 days, what do you recommend?
sorry for my English

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Which camera sensor

what camera sensor is mi a1/5x having ??? pls check using hw info app ...report here
sreekantt said:
what camera sensor is mi a1/5x having ??? pls check using hw info app ...report here
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Front cam is samsung s5k5e8 5mp
Back primary camera - OV12A10 12mp
Back secondary camera - OV13880 13mp
Xiaomi lied here, both back camera aren't same but 12mp and 13mp, and they have limited 13mp sensor to 12mp. also crippled fps to 28. it doesn't record videos at solid 30fps.
kraatus90 said:
Front cam is samsung s5k5e8 5mp
Back primary camera - OV12A10 12mp
Back secondary camera - OV13880 13mp
Xiaomi lied here, both back camera aren't same but 12mp and 13mp, and they have limited 13mp sensor to 12mp. also crippled fps to 28. it doesn't record videos at solid 30fps.
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Damn that sucks.... I thought it was imx 386 sensor as they were claiming flagship grade... I thought they would use mi 6 cameras at least... I think I would stick with my honor 6x which has imx 386......though Xiaomi offers best in that range... It does unnecessary claims... Mehh
sreekantt said:
Damn that sucks.... I thought it was imx 386 sensor as they were claiming flagship grade... I thought they would use mi 6 cameras at least... I think I would stick with my honor 6x which has imx 386......though Xiaomi offers best in that range... It does unnecessary claims... Mehh
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For camera ? stay away from this crap. it's worse than Redmi 3s. i tried modded gcam with hdr+ on both phones and redmi 3s simply ****s on this so called flagship camera. feeling cheated by Xiaomi.
There is a video in YouTube which shows 2x zoom working even if the secondary camera lens is blocked. Seems they are only using a single camera and the telephoto one is fake. Anyone pls confirm.
justinvt said:
There is a video in YouTube which shows 2x zoom working even if the secondary camera lens is blocked. Seems they are only using a single camera and the telephoto one is fake. Anyone pls confirm.
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Well color me surprised!! Just tested this, and you're kind of right when the Camera is in normal mode and you press the 1X or 2X button it zooms in AND takes pictures using the normal (primary) lens. However when entering manual mode the zoom lens does actually work and can also be covered.
This seems to be a bug in the camera software as it sometimes does use the 2X camera instead of the 1X camera. However i am on MIUI9 could anyone test this on MIUI8?
xinos said:
Well color me surprised!! Just tested this, and you're kind of right when the Camera is in normal mode and you press the 1X or 2X button it zooms in AND takes pictures using the normal (primary) lens. However when entering manual mode the zoom lens does actually work and can also be covered.
This seems to be a bug in the camera software as it sometimes does use the 2X camera instead of the 1X camera. However i am on MIUI9 could anyone test this on MIUI8?
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I don't think so its a bug.... In low lighting or less optimal conditions... It doesn't use telephoto lens to avoid degradation of image quality
This was in daylight, that should be wel above optimal lighting conditions. Could still be correct though but that would be a less then desired behaviour if you ask me.

For those with XZ2, is the camera capable of doing portrait shots?

With the background blur?
I know it only has 1 camera at the back but the Pixel 2 XL manages to do it quite perfectly with 1 camera.
Yes with bokeh setting in camera
I'd say it's far from perfect. It kind of works, sometimes, but I've previously had a Xiaomi Mi 6 which did a better job. But even the best dual camera system is... meh. Get a real camera with a decent lens.

Photo quality

Say "cheese", then rate this thread to express how photos taken with the Xiaomi Redmi Note 6 Pro come out. A higher rating indicates that photos offer rich color (without over-saturating), sharp detail (with all subjects in-focus), and appropriate exposure (with even lighting).
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
I'm really happy with the photo quality on this phone, it's pretty good for the price (and in case anyone is wondering, yes, it's better than the Note 5 Pro). I'm satisfied with it but I still can't wait for someone to bring the Pixel Camera to this device, I'm sure it could improve the picture quality even more.
Photo Quality after latest update to 10.0.5 is reduced a lot...
Is there any solution on this?
megh1982 said:
Photo Quality after latest update to 10.0.5 is reduced a lot...
Is there any solution on this?
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Are you sure about this? To which version are you comparing this to?
Hanslau said:
Are you sure about this? To which version are you comparing this to?
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I don't know about teh software upgrade, but if you look at the review of the Note 6 Pro in GSM Arena, go to 5.Camera and open the "photo compare tool", and select the Redmi Note 5 AI for comparison, the picture quality is much better than the Note 6.
The camera is supposed to be the same, but Note 6 seems to have excessive noise reduction and much less detail.
Anybody knows why?
santope said:
I don't know about teh software upgrade, but if you look at the review of the Note 6 Pro in GSM Arena, go to 5.Camera and open the "photo compare tool", and select the Redmi Note 5 AI for comparison, the picture quality is much better than the Note 6.
The camera is supposed to be the same, but Note 6 seems to have excessive noise reduction and much less detail.
Anybody knows why?
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I'm running latest MIUI software versions and the daylight quality shots with stock camera is excellent.
The night shot quality could be improved when compared with GCam.
Regards,
Photo quality is good, but I do not see as many details as with my previous J7 2015 (when I zoom in). But the overall image quality is much better (real colors, good lighting) .
I am disappointed with the camera cause the Mi A2 has better camera.
Check this profile on instagram @redminote6problue
Hi
I have enabled cam2api with root (magisk) on a custom ROM (lineageos 17) and I cannot find a camera app that uses the full capacity of the phone cameras. I only get one 12MP on the rear camera and one 5MP on the front camera. I used gcam, open cam, lineageos snap...
Normally (on stock MIUI) it's a dual 12MP and 5MP cameras on the front and dual 20MP and 2MP cameras on the rear.
Does anyone know how to get the full capacity of the phone's cameras without going back to MIUI global ?
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Hi
I have enabled cam2api with root (magisk) on a custom ROM (lineageos 17) and I cannot find a camera app that uses the full capacity of the phone cameras. I only get one 12MP on the rear camera and one 5MP on the front camera. I used gcam, open cam, lineageos snap...
Normally (on stock MIUI) it's a dual 12MP and 5MP cameras on the front and dual 20MP and 2MP cameras on the rear.
Does anyone know how to get the full capacity of the phone's cameras without going back to MIUI global ?
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I think you said it otherwise: RN6Pro has on front a 20MP main and 2MP lens to depth and on rear, 12MP and 5MP lens.
I am using the Official 20200602 Lineage OS build and i can take photos with:
- The snap camera on rear can be shot with 20MP resolution and the front with 5MP.
- The Miui flashalble zip camera for android 10 can reach full resolution, but lack of front camera on manual mode.
ushiyama said:
I think you said it otherwise: RN6Pro has on front a 20MP main and 2MP lens to depth and on rear, 12MP and 5MP lens.
I am using the Official 20200602 Lineage OS build and i can take photos with:
- The snap camera on rear can be shot with 20MP resolution and the front with 5MP.
- The Miui flashalble zip camera for android 10 can reach full resolution, but lack of front camera on manual mode.
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Hi, I also have the official lineageos and tried to flash the canera after mounting system and vendor in TWRP but the app doesn't work. I don't know where I went wrong
*EDIT*
Actually it's working, I had to authorise access to camera in the properties
I'm still using the stock camera on stock ROM. Couldn't enable api2 as any attempts to unlock my bootloader have failed. I like the photo quality better than my wife's new 9 Pro Max. MP difference aside, there is less visible noise in 6 pro vis-a-vis 9 Pro Max. Same applies to selfie camera as well.
However, I do like the macro camera of 9 Pro max, and wish there was night mode on 6 Pro as well. Mi could just enable camera 2 API out of the box, but chooses not to for some reason.
Redmi note 6 pro image quality
The image quality is quite good. In this low budget price range Note 6 pro giving such good quality images. But after the latest update, the image quality is reduced. Idk it only happens to me or every Redmi Note 6 pro user will face this issue!!

Gcam port for S10. How long?

Hey folks,
Any guesses as to when the google camera will be ported over to the snapdragon 855 S10s? I now the current ports are built on the Snapdragon 845 chipset, curious if it's quick/easy to port over for the 855, or if its going to be a few months.
LOVE my pixel 3 camera (who doesn't right?), but already ordered the S10, hoping I don't have to wait too long for the port.
Same here. Hehe i really want gcam camera. I hope other vwrsio work
Any news?
The same for Exynos is possible ?
I found this today:
https://piunikaweb.com/2019/03/02/samsung-galaxy-s10-gets-first-taste-of-google-camera-port/
Looks like an 845 version works on the 855, but only for the primary lens. I am sure with time the wide lens will also get the port. Can't wait!
DoKaTSuYa said:
The same for Exynos is possible ?
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Same , I would really like the devs to build one for the Exynos version tho. Hope it comes fast and works well too.
try this:
says Gcam is working
https://forum.xda-developers.com/s10-plus/themes/pixel-camera-mod-t3906205
portrait doesn't work sadly.
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jayochs said:
portrait doesn't work sadly.
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That's not a deal breaker. You can use the gcam port for the primary lens, and still use the stock camera for everything else. As long as night sight works on the primary lens, you can live with the stock camera aka samsung's jpeg processing for all other lens and compositions
I want GCam to take portrait in low light with flash...
sad!! no-one cares about our s10

Galaxy S10 Camera sensors

So, i have been doing some research for my youtube channel lately about the s10 cameras. I own the European S10 with exynos 9820 cipset and Isocell camera sensors. I know that Samsung used dual sourcing again with their phones, and some models out there use Sony sensors,, most probably snapdragon 855 variants. The question is, what sony sensors do they use? Is it the same imx 345 from the s9? My s10 uses the SLSI_SAK2L4 isocell main sensor, opposed to the SLSI_SAK2L3 sensor i had on my note 9. I am asking this because i get very good photos, even compared to the pixel 3 and mate 20 pro but i know many of you are unhappy with the s10 cameras. So, what sony sensor does your s10 have? (Use aida64 and go to devices to find out)
U.S. S10 unlocked sm- g973u1
SD-855
dcap0187 said:
U.S. S10 unlocked sm- g973u1
SD-855
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So, on the US variant you have (maybe) the same back camera sensors, but a sony selfie camera. But from what i heard, there are phones with sony main back sensors too. How is your experience with the camera?
BTW, here are the screenshots from my exynos variant.
I have Exynos S10+ and photo quality is noticeably worse than my Note 9 Exynos. Photos come out overexposed(too bright) with inaccurate colors(black looks gray), the sharpness is terrible as well which makes picture look blurry. It can all be fixed by Google's GCam APK camera software, but unfortunately GCam does not fully work on Exynos models, it works fine on Snapdragon model S10s.
I have ISOCell sensors for both front and back camera, just like my Note 9.
with gcam the photos are so much better, full sun light samsung cam app is fine.
SONY_IMX374 Front Camera
SLSI_SAK2L4SX Rear Cameras
SD855 Version of S10, Unlocked
VICosPhi said:
I have Exynos S10+ and photo quality is noticeably worse than my Note 9 Exynos. Photos come out overexposed(too bright) with inaccurate colors(black looks gray), the sharpness is terrible as well which makes picture look blurry. It can all be fixed by Google's GCam APK camera software, but unfortunately GCam does not fully work on Exynos models, it works fine on Snapdragon model S10s.
I have ISOCell sensors for both front and back camera, just like my Note 9.
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Well, i have pretty much the opposite experience with my camera. Made some tests VS my European Note 9, both with scene optimizer ON, and s10 photos are as sharp, but much better dynamic range and colors
Both Samsung iso cameras on my s10e exynos
cornel.atomei said:
Well, i have pretty much the opposite experience with my camera. Made some tests VS my European Note 9, both with scene optimizer ON, and s10 photos are as sharp, but much better dynamic range and colors
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In my experience, in bright lights, S10 does capture more vibrant colors than Note9/S9, but when there is low light environment like bar or a room in night time, the sharpness goes haywire and colors look washed out. I can post a couple comparison pics.
Check out this Anandtech review from yesterday, they found the Snapdragon S10 camera images superior to Exynos. Even the DAC for audio 3.5mm jack is screwed up on Exynos. I may just get the stupid US locked Bootloader S10 until Samsung fixes these problems on Exynos.
Link to Anandtech review below, it is all accurate from my experience. The battery issue on Exynos is resolved however and now it meets or beats Snapdragon on battery front.
https://www.anandtech.com/show/14072/the-samsung-galaxy-s10plus-review/17
You speak right of my soul. The post processing is a disaster. Just take a normal picture from, idk, a landscape. When you then go into gallery to view the image, it needs like 2-3 seconds to "optimize" it. After this, the image seems to be good at first sight, but if you just slightly zoom into the photo, you can see how unbelievable blurred and unsharp it is. At least unbelievable for a ~1000€ smartphone. My OnePlus 6 made way better pictures. I'm very dissapointed.
Why samsung why?
Ok, Im terrified by my s10 camera. I have the SD S10 with sony IMX374 front camera and the Isocell back cameras, and the pictures are just stupid. My iphone 7 and Google pixel used to take better photos... Photos have less details, less sharpness and they look grainy and soft. The worst part: when I try to take a photo, they look nice before I shoot, in the preview, but then I check the gallery and there...ITS NOTHING LIKE WHAT I SAW IN THE PREVIEW... The photo becomes blurred and lose details.
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SONY_IMX374 Front Camera
SLSI_SAK2L4SX Rear Cameras
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How are the photos? Mine has the same camera sensors but the photos I get are terrible.
Whydoesmyphonesuck said:
Ok, Im terrified by my s10 camera. I have the SD S10 with sony IMX374 front camera and the Isocell back cameras, and the pictures are just stupid. My iphone 7 and Google pixel used to take better photos... Photos have less details, less sharpness and they look grainy and soft. The worst part: when I try to take a photo, they look nice before I shoot, in the preview, but then I check the gallery and there...ITS NOTHING LIKE WHAT I SAW IN THE PREVIEW... The photo becomes blurred and lose details.
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How are the photos? Mine has the same camera sensors but the photos I get are terrible.
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Excellent for me.
Examples
2 quick shots
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung_CMOS Look the notes
The Galaxy S10 family utilizes either one of two sensors: the Samsung S5K3J1 or the Sony IMX374. They are regarded as nearly identical sensors.
11: The Galaxy S10 family utilizes either one of two sensors: the Samsung S5K2L4 or the Sony SAK2L4. They are regarded as nearly identical sensors.
You are wrong.
S10 with exynos has Sony sensor SAK2L4. NOT isocell. Next time do proper research ?
cornel.atomei said:
So, i have been doing some research for my youtube channel lately about the s10 cameras. I own the European S10 with exynos 9820 cipset and Isocell camera sensors. I know that Samsung used dual sourcing again with their phones, and some models out there use Sony sensors,, most probably snapdragon 855 variants. The question is, what sony sensors do they use? Is it the same imx 345 from the s9? My s10 uses the SLSI_SAK2L4 isocell main sensor, opposed to the SLSI_SAK2L3 sensor i had on my note 9. I am asking this because i get very good photos, even compared to the pixel 3 and mate 20 pro but i know many of you are unhappy with the s10 cameras. So, what sony sensor does your s10 have? (Use aida64 and go to devices to find out)
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JanLodz said:
S10 with exynos has Sony sensor SAK2L4. NOT isocell. Next time do proper research ?
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So in AIDA64 "SLSI_SAK2L4SX" and "SLSI_SAK2L4_FIMC_IS" are identical sensors from Sony?
Another topic, does your AIDA list the Sensor of the tele camera? Mine does not. (Most likely the "S5K3M3")

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