Is there a lifecycle problem with the OP3 battery? - OnePlus 3 Guides, News, & Discussion

Hi,
there is a german website -> http://www.chinamobilemag.de/news/oneplus-3-akku-problem.html
(Translator -> https://translate.google.com/transl...neplus-3-akku-problem.html&edit-text=&act=url )
They talk about that the capacity are going down. After 120 charging cycles the lost 20% capacity. The messurement was taken by a usb tool.
I did not have things like this. Can you follow them or do they make some failures? The articel sound a little anoying

The one thing that pops out immediately in my mind after reading the article is that we don't know if the OP3 battery has linear deterioration.
Only time and more measurements will tell if 200-240 charging cycles = 40% loss in capacity or not.

But i guess after 100 Load-Cycles we sould not have 20% power less

This could be true bc any type of fast charging has bad effects on battery. That's why I don't use dash charger.

Prince Chandela said:
This could be true bc any type of fast charging has bad effects on battery. That's why I don't use dash charger.
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Fast charging is not problem. The heat is Dash doesn't have this heat.
Anyways I don't believe in this thing. My battery is still fine so.

Does an one know if there is an app to check the capacity of the battery?

Prince Chandela said:
This could be true bc any type of fast charging has bad effects on battery. That's why I don't use dash charger.
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That is not necessarily true. Battery deteriorates due to fast charging only if the phone/battery gets heated during charging and since VOOC charging dissipates heat in the charger only, theoretically, battery itself shouldn't deteriorate much. Besides, number of charge cycles does have effect on battery health but capacity dropping by 20% in just 100 cycles is bit much.

several users commented there already, many of them saying that the measured it in the same way and state a loss of about 500mah ... :/ this is worrying

Such a trash....
Got my device right after release, dash charged every time i need 2 charge...
And guess what?
Even 5 hrs SOT and 2-3 days of standby time. Using OOS 3.5.5
Such a nonserious site and post. U guys really belive all the sh*t those guys out there feeding u.
Please close this pathetic thread! Thx

Mannikkk said:
Such a trash....
Got my device right after release, dash charged every time i need 2 charge...
And guess what?
Even 5 hrs SOT and 2-3 days of standby time. Using OOS 3.5.5
Such a nonserious site and post. U guys really belive all the sh*t those guys out there feeding u.
Please close this pathetic thread! Thx
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several of those guys measured it and you deliver one anecdotal response, even insulting them. nice work!

Mannikkk said:
Such a trash....
Got my device right after release, dash charged every time i need 2 charge...
And guess what?
Even 5 hrs SOT and 2-3 days of standby time. Using OOS 3.5.5
Such a nonserious site and post. U guys really belive all the sh*t those guys out there feeding u.
Please close this pathetic thread! Thx
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I generally agree with you when it comes to battery related anything, but just trying to keep an open mind.

And u Guys think those measures were correct?
Who are those Guys? Probably no One of them got electrical knowledge.. "measure" it urself, than Start making Panic... Thx.

I'm also worried about OP3 battery life, I even asked a question some time ago: http://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-3/help/battery-health-t3455138

I installed AccuBattery and it shows me 2700mAh capacity :/ I have the OP3 since 1.7.16

The accuracy of those tools is not proved.
If u trust them u can also install a solar app and put or phone into the sun for recharging the battery.
Wer viel misst, misst Mist!

Mannikkk said:
The accuracy of those tools is not proved.
If u trust them u can also install a solar app and put or phone into the sun for recharging the battery.
Wer viel misst, misst Mist!
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nope but they seem to get the same values as the extern meters. If anyone with a brand new phone would use the app, that would clarify a lot.

Maybe our battery never had 3000mAh Who knows? Has someone tested it on release? [ATTETION: a bit of irony]

My Accu health is at 90% and Kapaziti has 2.695
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26OCT delivered, AccuBattery shows 3000 here, I never full cycled the battery to below 20%, 10% rarely 1 time until now & charge the battery upto 80%-90% only
Also read this article - https://gizmodo.com/how-to-take-care-of-your-smartphone-battery-the-right-w-513217256\
Maybe OnePlus cheaped out on batteries, I lost faith in this company, I will move to a Flagship Pixel once My OP3 is not usable anymore.

I wanted a pixel but I could buy the OP3 AND the OP3T for the price of one Pixel.
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[Q] things to be done on battery after getting new htc one

I am new in HTC phones. I will get my htc one after 2 days, i mainly want to know about battery charging cycles. how can we do that to get maximum battery life. what is mean by battery calibration ? is the battery to be calibrated in every weak ? sorry for my bad english
Once at month, you have to discarghe the phone at 0%, put it in charge and switch on it when the led is green.
The battery life, during the day, depens of you and your use of phone
Just use it. Charge it when you need to, charge it when you can, top up charge is fine. Calibration is a myth. You don't need to do anything or not do anything abnormal.
Letting it run out and leaving it empty is a bad idea. Charging it, turning it off, charging it, and whatever other voodoo is recommended is a bad idea.
Lol at two contradicting responses.
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Lol at two contradicting responses.
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Personally my thinks about battery is the same of users after my post.
But i wrote this because a lot of people say to do this...
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Guich said:
Once at month, you have to discarghe the phone at 0%, put it in charge and switch on it when the led is green.
The battery life, during the day, depens of you and your use of phone
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is their any special charging methods to be done after getting my new One ??
One charge for a day is enough for htc one if you don't play games
If you really want the most optimum battery life out of your phone then don't let it drain below 30% nor let it reach more than 90%. You'll likely get the most charge cycles and prolonged battery life with that. This suggestion sounds sarcastic but this is scientifically factual.
Riyal said:
If you really want the most optimum battery life out of your phone then don't let it drain below 30% nor let it reach more than 90%. You'll likely get the most charge cycles and prolonged battery life with that. This suggestion sounds sarcastic but this is scientifically factual.
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How many HTC one batteries did you test? Using what methodology?
The only scientific fact is that you just made up those numbers, you have no idea what charge and discharge limits have already been placed on the raw cells by the battery circuitry.
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Guich said:
Personally my thinks about battery is the same of users after my post.
But i wrote this because a lot of people say to do this...
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Quick lesson for life; feel free to engage your own brain. Stuff doesn't become true just because lots of people repeat it.
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Quick lesson for life; feel free to engage your own brain. Stuff doesn't become true just because lots of people repeat it.
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I don't use this method.
But my friend have a very good battery life with it.
So, why don't share?
I don't use it because i can't do this, it's simple
HTC One Battery Conditioning
sarathsnair said:
is their any special charging methods to be done after getting my new One ??
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G'day mate. When I had my HTC Desire, there was a process of conditioning that was advisable which pushed my battery life from 3/4 of a day to a full day. Having just received my HTC One last Friday (and what a magnificent phone it is too but that is a story for another day), I can honestly say that no conditioning is required (after-all, it does have a 2300mAH battery). I would suggest that you make sure that the first time you charge the phone, you leave it on charge for a minimum of 8hrs (as recommended by HTC). I left it on charge all day and I believe it does make a difference. As for making it last long, may I suggest you invest in an App called Juice Defender Ultimate (not very expensive but extremely useful) ? I am using this app and I have improved the battery life of my One from a single day to approx. 2.5 days. But I am an average user (emails, some internet, some music and blinkfeed). I don't watch movies on my phone so I am not too sure how that will affect battery life but I believe it will have some effect.
I hope this helps you with the answers you seek.
It's based on scientific facts.
When your battery has high load(Almost fully charged) more ions inside the battery are stored there hence doing alot of chemical changes in the battery. And chemical change is the only reason why our batteries here are losing it's capacity.
And the reason why I set 30% as the minimum is because you don't want your battery to be drained too much as there's likely chances that you'll completely drain it causing it to be broken also.
And why limit the examples on HTC One batteries? Is this a serious question or just a joke? We all know that HTC One was just released months ago and another obvious fact is it has a non removable battery. So obviously the answer would be none.
And about real life proofs about my usage and how it affects battery life do you want me to show you a nokia 3310 model still up and running for almost a 8 years now? Also want me to show you my nokia n900 which is already about 4 years now and still kicking it's battery perfectly up to now? I could have also showed you my n95 up and running till now if only it didn't break it's flex cable.
There's no such thing as integrated ticking time bomb on your battery(like rumors in the 20th century where they say electronic ICs have a hard coded date where they will totally shut off) where it would just instantly die once it reach it's recharge limit. What manufacturer in their right mind would do that? Smartphone business isn't a monopoly and every competitor would want the best of them all on their products. Also if this myth would have been true most people's device wouldn't even last a year due to plugging your phone on a computer would initiate a charge also. So would that mean that if I plug my phone on my PC 5x a day and charge it once a day it would only last roughly 6months? lol!
Also here's a good website that would backup my claim.
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/do_and_dont_battery_table
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries
Partial and random charge is fine; does not need full charge; lower voltage limit preferred; keep battery cool.
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Prevent full cycles, apply some charge after a full discharge to keep the protection circuit alive.
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Keep cool, battery lasts longest when operating in mid state-of-charge of 20–80%. Prevent ultra-fast charging and high loads.
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BenPope said:
How many HTC one batteries did you test? Using what methodology?
The only scientific fact is that you just made up those numbers, you have no idea what charge and discharge limits have already been placed on the raw cells by the battery circuitry.
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Quick lesson for life; feel free to engage your own brain. Stuff doesn't become true just because lots of people repeat it.
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Did you read those websites? Because their numbers and yours don't agree. So either you made up the numbers or you obtained your scientific facts from elsewhere.
As much as I know....just dont overcharge and frequent charging. Overcharge meaning leaving your phone charged for long hours after it has reached 100%. Frequent charging meaning leaving your home with 100%, reach office at 85% and charge. Going for lunch with 92% and came back with 87% and you charge again. Get the picture? I'm no genius on batteries and dont bother looking up and reading on them. Just based on experience, over many phones. And yes, the first charge is very important.
I thinks the powersave is the best route when not playing any games. If you play games then you can call it quits!
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OzBoy08 said:
G'day mate. When I had my HTC Desire, there was a process of conditioning that was advisable which pushed my battery life from 3/4 of a day to a full day. Having just received my HTC One last Friday (and what a magnificent phone it is too but that is a story for another day), I can honestly say that no conditioning is required (after-all, it does have a 2300mAH battery). I would suggest that you make sure that the first time you charge the phone, you leave it on charge for a minimum of 8hrs (as recommended by HTC). I left it on charge all day and I believe it does make a difference. As for making it last long, may I suggest you invest in an App called Juice Defender Ultimate (not very expensive but extremely useful) ? I am using this app and I have improved the battery life of my One from a single day to approx. 2.5 days. But I am an average user (emails, some internet, some music and blinkfeed). I don't watch movies on my phone so I am not too sure how that will affect battery life but I believe it will have some effect.
I hope this helps you with the answers you seek.
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milkw33d said:
As much as I know....just dont overcharge and frequent charging. Overcharge meaning leaving your phone charged for long hours after it has reached 100%. Frequent charging meaning leaving your home with 100%, reach office at 85% and charge. Going for lunch with 92% and came back with 87% and you charge again. Get the picture? I'm no genius on batteries and dont bother looking up and reading on them. Just based on experience, over many phones. And yes, the first charge is very important.
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thank u so much
milkw33d said:
As much as I know....just dont overcharge and frequent charging. Overcharge meaning leaving your phone charged for long hours after it has reached 100%. Frequent charging meaning leaving your home with 100%, reach office at 85% and charge. Going for lunch with 92% and came back with 87% and you charge again. Get the picture? I'm no genius on batteries and dont bother looking up and reading on them. Just based on experience, over many phones. And yes, the first charge is very important.
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Given that the phone comes with charge in it, how much can you do to affect the first charge?
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Given that the phone comes with charge in it, how much can you do to affect the first charge?
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As much as I know, dont drain the battery too much the first time you take it out the box. All batteries comes with a little charge in it. Had a friend who used to work at a mobile company and I cant remember the term he used to describe that. But the first charge doesnt have to be exactly 8hrs. Phone might be fully charged after 4-6hrs if you hadnt used it much from the box. Just dont unplug it before it reaches 100% on the first charge. Let it get to full and leave it for another 10-15mins and its good to go.
Guich said:
Once at month, you have to discarghe the phone at 0%, put it in charge and switch on it when the led is green.
The battery life, during the day, depens of you and your use of phone
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I let a cell phone battery get down to zero once. It never worked again.
I did the same with my house cleaning robot. I had to replace the battery after that.....I'm just saying.
anotherfakeusername said:
I let a cell phone battery get down to zero once. It never worked again.
I did the same with my house cleaning robot. I had to replace the battery after that.....I'm just saying.
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Some devices have this problem.
Mine not.
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Where to get replacement batteries

Oneplus 3 is an awesome phone no doubt (if you don't damage it). However with the dash charging, there's a high chance we might need replacement batteries for the phone after a year or two.
Does anyone know where we would be able to obtain dash capable batteries for replacement? It would be a great disappointment if we are not able to replace it.
*it is a concern because at least in Singapore, there is 0 support despite purchasing a local set. You will be given an email to make an appointment to bring your set down to a location, but NO ONE will respond to your email. Oneplus Singapore Facebook as well as official reseller do not provide any support either.
Why would Dash Charge wreck the battery? Afterall if anything the phone heats up less than other phones, because the charging is handled by the adapter, not the phone.
BolintsMiki said:
Why would Dash Charge wreck the battery? Afterall if anything the phone heats up less than other phones, because the charging is handled by the adapter, not the phone.
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You have a point there. However, batteries will eventually degrade, so it would be great to be able to do a replacement when the time comes
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You have a point there. However, batteries will eventually degrade, so it would be great to be able to do a replacement when the time comes
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Most damage to a battery is done at night when you charge a phone when you've gone to sleep, as the charger will put it to 100% and keep it there throughout the night, which puts more strain on the battery. (just look into Sony Qnovo battery charging tech in their new phones).
The dash charger has been proven to change people's charging habits. For example I wake up at 7.30am to go to work at 9am, as soon as I wake up I put my phone on charge. Thus meaning it stays at 100% for less time, and so degrades slower.
just keep your battery b/w 40-80% and it's all good
Prince Chandela said:
just keep your battery b/w 40-80% and it's all good
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That's bull**** and bears any real usage
Here you have one: http://www.ebay.de/itm/ONEPLUS-3-TH...198645?hash=item4b05ffd1b5:g:V~wAAOSwZVlXqwIf
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ONEPLUS-3...198645?hash=item4b05ffd1b5:g:V~wAAOSwZVlXqwIf
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Here you have one: http://www.ebay.de/itm/ONEPLUS-3-TH...198645?hash=item4b05ffd1b5:g:V~wAAOSwZVlXqwIf
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ONEPLUS-3...198645?hash=item4b05ffd1b5:g:V~wAAOSwZVlXqwIf
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Awesome! However, the battery capacity seems to be much lower than 3000mah
Stay away from buying non oem batteries. You don't want your phone to be the next Note 7 lol.
Again you wont need a new battery. It degrade really slow. The problem with fastcharging is heat. Batteries dont like heat. Also charging overnight is bull**** since it stops charging when its 100%. Again it doesnt matter what you do.. If u drain it to 0% its not fully empty so really doesnt matter!
Demian3112 said:
Again you wont need a new battery. It degrade really slow. The problem with fastcharging is heat. Batteries dont like heat. Also charging overnight is bull**** since it stops charging when its 100%. Again it doesnt matter what you do.. If u drain it to 0% its not fully empty so really doesnt matter!
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Personally I change battery ever 1.5 to 2 years. Batteries have a lifespan and degrade over time. It degrades faster with heat. It's quite disappointing that no one is sellong replacements though.
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Also charging overnight is bull**** since it stops charging when its 100%.
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Exactly. The controller stops the current flow at full charge. It will not top it up if you keep it plugged in such as in the overnight scenario.
panther124 said:
Here you have one: http://www.ebay.de/itm/ONEPLUS-3-TH...198645?hash=item4b05ffd1b5:g:V~wAAOSwZVlXqwIf
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ONEPLUS-3...198645?hash=item4b05ffd1b5:g:V~wAAOSwZVlXqwIf
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The model number on eBay is BLP607.
You'll need BLP613 for OP3.
Maybe after a longer time there will be more replacements, if there aren't already.
If the OnePlus's battery it good I don't see a need for a replacement personality because I change phone after 2 years, when factory support ends and I'm tired of the phone.
I am pretty sure you can't wait to buy a new one before the battery degrade to an unacceptable level.
Like my OnePlus 1, which still has a quite decent battery time, though it has already become my son's toy.
So, don't worry about this too much.
Majority of the users will replace their phones instead of a degraded battery within 2 years. Unless the battery is defective then yea that would be understandable. If you are one the minority who upgrades every 3+ years then kudos to yall for having the will power to resist the upgrade fever.
is there no one who works at one plus and also uses xda?
that dude can help us in getting batteries from the supplier of one plus.
I am using my xperia ZL since 2013. i changed its battery a while ago. now i feel it is time to change my device. moving on to one plus 3 soon.
I think my OnePlus 3 battery is pretty broaken already. Last me for around 4 houers so i need to recharge it several times a day.
I cant find a original battery, so ill probably have to get a not OEM one
Hilmy said:
I think my OnePlus 3 battery is pretty broaken already. Last me for around 4 houers so i need to recharge it several times a day.
I cant find a original battery, so ill probably have to get a not OEM one
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Strange. Are you on stock ROM?
DBrandon said:
Strange. Are you on stock ROM?
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Yes I am. Android 7.1.1 and Oxygen 4.1.3
AccuBattery says my battery is 87% helathy and on 2611 mAh instead of 3000mAh, but feels like much less

New spare battery whitout proper temperature reading...

hi,
I have just received a replacement battery, have had a charge discharge cycle, and it look ok.
But I did just figured that the temperature reading is nothing but real :
- put the phone outside at -5°C for 30 min, batterie temp reading :23°C
- put the phone in charge on a QuickCharge 2 charger and go from 20% to 70% : 15°C
It seems to be a common thing on spare replacement batteries to have bad or simply NO temperature sensor.
For my Nexus 5 I have had the same issue.
The question is : is this temperature reading used to stop charging when its getting to much hot or even the phone itself?
Or does the phone itself has its own temp sensor that will shut it down or stop charging?
Edit : the litle white humidity disc checker on the same face as the contact is also missing...
Thanks
I also have a "5000 mah" slim battery, it is showing 23 degree non stop, so obviously not working. It gives me great battery life though.
Yeah the temp sensor is bugged
ObiDanKenobi said:
I also have a "5000 mah" slim battery, it is showing 23 degree non stop, so obviously not working. It gives me great battery life though.
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which one do you use?
Is it a slim one?
thx
Yes, it is a slim one. They have relisted it https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1Pc...32664650213.html?spm=2114.13010608.0.0.e4MP7m. It was gone from the site for about one month.
Yeah I have that same one with no issues. Love that brand
ObiDanKenobi said:
Yes, it is a slim one. They have relisted it https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1Pc...32664650213.html?spm=2114.13010608.0.0.e4MP7m. It was gone from the site for about one month.
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WAIDroid said:
Yeah I have that same one with no issues. Love that brand
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thx, i will get those batterys to test them out.
is the battery life (same usage and apps) better than on original battery?
i think my original battery is degreasing its power it can store, because i am using it ~1,5 years now.
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pOpY
I'd say yes but the TQTHL is way better
popy2006 said:
thx, i will get those batterys to test them out.
is the battery life (same usage and apps) better than on original battery?
i think my original battery is degreasing its power it can store, because i am using it ~1,5 years now.
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pOpY
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My orig bat is still crankin. 1.25 years later. Im impressed
I did this for testing purposes....
With my Original Battery I charged with USB 2.0 Quick Charge and with my LG OEM Battery Charger and I got 2 Hours more with the Battery Charger. My Test: had the screen [email protected] and in the whole time. So 5HRs vs 3HRs
Note: the OEM Battery Charger doesn't have Quick Charge. To my understanding you should always charge slow and not fast. I find these Quick Charge Technology just a gimmick
Now out of curiosity. Are all these batts with incorect temp readings throwing warning aboit device to hot or cold????
No, I have no warnings, it works a bit better than stock, I have 4-5 hours of SOT during 40h time (I charge the phone every other night all night).
My G4 is brick
I need your help
Is that TOTHL battery really 5000mAh? I feel like a lot of those budget extended batteries all lie about capacity.
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Is that TOTHL battery really 5000mAh? I feel like a lot of those budget extended batteries all lie about capacity.
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It's a lie! I bought one and its real capacity even less than original. Don't waste your money!
I call BS! on that. Look at my Thread
Saigonian said:
It's a lie! I bought one and its real capacity even less than original. Don't waste your money!
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Too late!! I already bought it, but it wasn't too expensive (2 x $20 usd, shipped)
So far, the same SOT as the stock batteries. I doubt they'll last long, after multiple cycles.
The biggest battery saver has been uninstalling Facebook Messenger...sad.
Impact Blue said:
Too late!! I already bought it, but it wasn't too expensive (2 x $20 usd, shipped)
So far, the same SOT as the stock batteries. I doubt they'll last long, after multiple cycles.
The biggest battery saver has been uninstalling Facebook Messenger...sad.
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You do realize these Slim Extended Batteries or and All Extended Battery can't be charged with USB? Time&Time again i keep saying y'all need to buy these Battery Chargers! (Linked in My Thread)
Truth: Either a Chip in the battery, Motherboard via Phone or.... inside the OS Kernel is it's locked @3000mah so if you charge (via USB) a Extended Battery it'll charge only @3000mah and nothing more. I've tested it. Even charging overnight

Question Battery getting rekt fast with 67w charge !

Noticed on battery health monitor battery seems to be getting rekt quickly
Should I charge slower or something ?
At this rate the battery is degrading 6%+ a month!
Pretty sure that's not accurate. I stopped using Accubattery a long time ago, I just use my phone like I normally would and I try not to worry about the battery degrading.
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Pretty sure that's not accurate. I stopped using Accubattery a long time ago, I just use my phone like I normally would and I try not to worry about the battery degrading.
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When I test it on my old Huawei mate 20 X it says the battery is only 74% effective and it was 101% when new
I am not sure accubattery is legit or not but I never take their recommendation to only charge between 30-80% because I need to use the phone capacity from 100% to whatever and I don't plug it in until 1% or sometimes dead which is supposedly the worst thing you can do lol
I guess New batteries will be cheap by the time I need one , haven't seen a tear down yet of this device to know if it's easy to replace it yet or not....
This application give me 5115 after 2 weeks.
Dont' know if accurate or not.
I don't think they know that battery in MI11 Ultra is made with new material "silicon-oxygen anode battery" as app probably thinks you have normal "li-pol battery" so when you charge it with high power, app think you killing your li-pol battery?..
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I don't think they know that battery in MI11 Ultra is made with new material "silicon-oxygen anode battery" as app probably thinks you have normal "li-pol battery" so when you charge it with high power, app think you killing your li-pol battery?..
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Maybe... Only time will tell i suppose
speedtripler said:
Noticed on battery health monitor battery seems to be getting rekt quickly
Should I charge slower or something ?
At this rate the battery is degrading 6%+ a month!
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I just tested what it looks like for me after about 2 weeks.
I have almost the same result as you.
I really hope that's not correct, otherwise I'd be worse off now than with my Galaxy S20 Ultra (SD version) after a year.
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I just tested what it looks like for me after about 2 weeks.
I have almost the same result as you.
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I really hope that's not correct, otherwise I'd be worse off now than with my Galaxy S20 Ultra (SD version) after a year.
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Yes, rather shocking results for a month , i don't mind changing battery every 6-8 months because I'm a heavy user ( but hopefully spare batteries are available? )
Once they get down to about 82% I usually order a new one and change it and it makes a big difference in the longevity of the devices
i have the phone since it launched ( received about 1 week or so after ) and in the app i have 98%.
I do believe the app is not accurate enough tough.
My mi9, after 2 years of intense usage still is at 90%
Jhonxs said:
i have the phone since it launched ( received about 1 week or so after ) and in the app i have 98%.
I do believe the app is not accurate enough tough.
My mi9, after 2 years of intense usage still is at 90%
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I hope your right , my battery seems to be degrading fast
Jhonxs said:
i have the phone since it launched ( received about 1 week or so after ) and in the app i have 98%.
I do believe the app is not accurate enough tough.
My mi9, after 2 years of intense usage still is at 90%
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I did a factory reset since last time, and i have same result.
But i don't think it's accurate, in my case i have too high result to be true.
Android doesn't directly monitor current draw I don't think so no app will be accurate.
Regardless Li's like frequent midrange power cycling 40-65% is ideal.
Avoid charging past 80% or discharging under 30% when possible to reduce battery stress.
Do not start charging a battery under 72°F, NEVER charge one near freezing.
An 85F start temperature is best.
Keep the temperature below 100F during the charge cycle.
Low temperature charging can cause Li plating which permanently degrades the cell.
Most fast charging controllers will not let fast charging engage if the start temperature is too low or high.
37-38 C temperature during charging is somehow difficult to keep with the 65-67w charging speed without any external help ( a fan for example )
But in theory you are right
Jhonxs said:
37-38 C temperature during charging is somehow difficult to keep with the 65-67w charging speed without any external help ( a fan for example )
But in theory you are right
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I use a damp microfiber cloth and/or a fan.
If it gets much above 101F charging will likely terminate. That max will vary by device however it's counterproductive to charge at this high temperature.
I usually use my blackshark fan with great success. That little device really works
Jhonxs said:
I usually use my blackshark fan with great success. That little device really works
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You got the idea

Question Different charging patterns

If i use the official fast charger .....charge up to 100% the next day I barely get 16 hrs and 3 hrs screen time..wireless charge slowly and I get 30 percent more .
Anyone else see a difference??
Uk unlocked s21u for reference.
You sure there are no other factors involved?: types of apps you ran, heat, etc.
mattlcfc said:
If i use the official fast charger .....charge up to 100% the next day I barely get 16 hrs and 3 hrs screen time..wireless charge slowly and I get 30 percent more .
Anyone else see a difference??
Uk unlocked s21u for reference.
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That sounds interesting! Would love to look into this a little deeper.
Could you describe this in a little more detail please? Like when do you start charging, how long it takes with each method, what your usage pattern is like, and what you mean by 30% more (SOT, Standgy, or literal battery percentage remaining)? And any relevant screeenshots would be much appreciated.
Fast charging will not engage if the temperature is too low. It will remain disengaged for that charge cycle.
Charging is an electrochemical reaction that needs a certain temperature range to function properly.
Minimum start temp is 72°F but 82-90F is optimal.
Anything below 72F brings the risk of Li plating which will permanently degrade the cell.
Charging will also shutdown if the battery temperature goes too high.
blackhawk said:
Fast charging will not engage if the temperature is too low. It will remain disengaged for that charge cycle.
Charging is an electrochemical reaction that needs a certain temperature range to function properly.
Minimum start temp is 72°F but 82-90F is optimal.
Anything below 72F brings the risk of Li plating which will permanently degrade the cell.
Charging will also shutdown if the battery temperature goes too high.
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I don't think OP is talking about speed of charging. We're trying to discuss battery life with different speeds of charging.
enigmaamit said:
I don't think OP is talking about speed of charging. We're trying to discuss battery life with different speeds of charging.
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It should be near identical.
Android battery capacity sensing always left something to be desired.
Battery temperatures should be made the same when comparing.
Try comparing battery voltages rather than indicated %
blackhawk said:
It should be near identical.
Android battery capacity sensing always left something to be desired.
Battery temperatures should be made the same when comparing.
Try comparing battery voltages rather than indicated %
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That is why we're waiting for more information about his experience before coming to any conclusions.
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That is why we're waiting for more information about his experience before coming to any conclusions.
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Depending on how fast the battery is charging it may shutdown at a lower charge level to avoid overshooting the correct shutdown voltage.
Samsung is said to be very conservative with their charge curves... I wonder why
Samsung should be using graphene batteries by now. Instead of throwing all their resources at the Folds, which never have sold well, they neglect their bread winners. I just reamed them out over that today
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I just reamed them out over that today
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You called them and asked them to switch to Graphene batteries?
nixnixnixnix4 said:
You called them and asked them to switch to Graphene batteries?
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Said they should be using them already, among other things. Before the 10+ was released there was speculation that it might have a Graphene cell, lol.
I was barely aware of this technology until a few days ago... it be cool and it's in use.
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Said they should be using them already, among other things. Before the 10+ was released there was speculation that it might have a Graphene cell, lol.
I was barely aware of this technology until a few days ago... it be cool and it's in use.
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Other than power banks, who is using them in their phones?
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Other than power banks, who is using them in their phones?
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Xiaomi tells us about graphene batteries and the great challenge posed by the Mi 10 Ultra
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30% more seems to be a huge claim .
5%-10% could have been a margin or error.
I'll have to do some tracking and get some screen shots . I normally wireless charge overnight and it says 100 % every morning and I use 70 % battery on average . But 1 day a week I have to charge using the lead . I only have the "super fast" charger and lead and the next day the battery is always worse by quite a way . Dead by 19:00 hrs. Similar usage most days . Its as if on fast charge it says 100 % but is way down.
As said I'll do some more investigation.
mattlcfc said:
I'll have to do some tracking and get some screen shots . I normally wireless charge overnight and it says 100 % every morning and I use 70 % battery on average . But 1 day a week I have to charge using the lead . I only have the "super fast" charger and lead and the next day the battery is always worse by quite a way . Dead by 19:00 hrs. Similar usage most days . Its as if on fast charge it says 100 % but is way down.
As said I'll do some more investigation.
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You know that you can toggle OFF fast-charging and super-fast-charging in the battery settings right?
Try that.
blackhawk said:
Xiaomi tells us about graphene batteries and the great challenge posed by the Mi 10 Ultra
Xiaomist A portal to share question and answer about smartphone , problems , news and ...
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Samsung better listen then.
These batteries should last us 4 years easily. Anything less than that is a rip off.
nixnixnixnix4 said:
Samsung better listen then.
These batteries should last us 4 years easily. Anything less than that is a rip off.
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With heavy usage the Li's are good for 1-2 years. Maybe better in a temp controlled environment.
I stream a lot and that's hard on the battery which is why I now say... live and let die
It's typical for batteries to last longer the slower they're charged. If you're using fast charging when plugged in, you'll see a decrease in the amount of charge that is held throughout the day, compared to wireless charging which is quite a bit slower.
mattlcfc said:
If i use the official fast charger .....charge up to 100% the next day I barely get 16 hrs and 3 hrs screen time..wireless charge slowly and I get 30 percent more .
Anyone else see a difference??
Uk unlocked s21u for reference.
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Are you sure there aren't any other elements at play? Examples include the applications you used, the temperature, and so on.
SuperIronOut said:
It's typical for batteries to last longer the slower they're charged. If you're using fast charging when plugged in, you'll see a decrease in the amount of charge that is held throughout the day, compared to wireless charging which is quite a bit slower.
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So you're saying if one battery is slow, one is fast charged, both to 3.2 volts, the slow charged one will yield mAhs.
Unless the battery is degraded I have my doubts that it be a significant difference.

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