I have been extremely confused on what the available ROMs are for this device. I usually am not this cautious, but the sheer rarity of this phone always makes me think twice with what I do with it.
So after reading around a bit, to my understanding these are the available ROMs:
Chinese Stable
Chinese Developer
EU unofficial global (on MIUI 6.x.x??!)
Vendor ROM
What I don't understand is that listed for me is "MIUI Global 8.0 | Stable 8.0.7.0.0 (MAHCNDI)". No Chinese bloatware, English is set by default, play store is automatically installed...
I want to update my phone OTA, but clearly this is broken as no updates even pop up after checking. My question is:
What rom am I running?
Of the following ROMs mentioned which one is the update to my device?
Thanks guys, I hope I haven't been the millionth person to ask.
Edit: after reading a bit more I've found others in my same situation. English is automatically selected, no bloatware, and the playstore is automatically installed. Apparently I have a vendor ROM, one that was installed by the seller/vendor. It's extremely hard to believe that this isn't an official global ROM!
So this Chinese stable rom: http://en.miui.com/thread-436070-1-1.html , would it have bloatware and the whole 9 yards of hell?
I can't update OTA because the updater is broken and I'm not trying to unlock the bootloader unless it's absolutely necessary. Am I on an abandoned ROM?
I had this rom it wasn't EU rom it is global same as you 8.0.7.0.0 I liked it cos it clean of all that bloatware that other roms have but I couldn't install xposed so I tried an EU rom and it did work the Eu rom does have some Chinese crap in it but some can be uninstall and now I have a very good looking and working rom, you got to tweak and customize it as you which and i'm happy with it.
I am in the same situation as you, I'm on 8.0.8.0.0 "Global" . It was installed by Gearbest, I can only assume. My updater can't see any other ROMS, not even when I've downloaded it either. So yes I think it's "abandoned".
I've asked for my phone to be unlocked so that I can get access to update the ROM later on from Xiaomi. It's been about 24 hours, I can only assume they're busy since lots of the phones have been delivered to customers by now.
My plan is to go onto the EU ROM unless I can get access to google apps using the Chinese ROM.
So to my understanding now, Xiaomi flashed every device that was sold internationally (ones shipped to redistributers like GearBest or Geekbuying)? And now they offer no support or legitimate way (besides unlocking the bootloader) to update... Can somebody correct me or didn't Xiaomi curse us with this beautiful device?
Interesting to hear. Maybe I'll check out the EU ROM
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Got the phone from Hong Kong, I want to install TWRP and root, but not sure if I have the developer rom or the international rom?
How does one tell which one you have?
As I know doesn't exist an global version yet...
You only could have an original stable or developer.
Thinking when you ordered in HK you should have one of these...
Some international stores install an shop ROM, as I know it's that the worst case..
BTW: I changed from stable to developer and think there are less bloat inside and the quality of camera seems like better
Not sure if this is related to the ROM or not, but MIUI version says "MIUI Global 8.0 | Stable 8.0.7.0.0"
I'm assuming the shop in HK installed something as it was already in English when I got the phone. The stock roms don't have English do they?
I just want to be sure I install the right TWRP version......
They do. But you mostlikely have the edited chinese rom. If you check the software in the details should say MIUI Global 8.
If thats the version you have then install the normal twrp.
I tried all the roms and ended up going back to the one that came with with a nand backup i made of the "shop" rom.
The eu rom is very buggy and had speed issues.
Hello
I'm about to purchase an Mi 9 for my son. I can only buy it online, since no physical stores have it where i live. It's not officially released where i live. I think that the phone will come with the global rom.
I saw in a youtube video, that the phone will drain battery in standby mode. Since there is a bug that make the phone try to connect to both the Chineese and the European networks. It could be fixed by installing the EU rom. There was also many other good reasons to flash the Eu rom. Like for instance a cleaner firmware with less bloat. Is this true?
Can i flash an Eu rom on a global version without unlocking the booloader?
If I unlock the bootloader to flash the EU rom. Can it then be locked again? (Because of Netflix)
Thanks
Yes its true that EU Rom is debloated and have fixed Networks
But You can Not lock the bootloader in the EU Rom.
And yes Netflix is Widevine Level 3 but i dont know Who can See a diffference on a Smartphone Display. Btw as i know You can Download Movies in HD and watch them. Only streaming is Not HD
Thanks
Just called support from the web shop. He told me that, it is a EU version.
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Just called support from the web shop. He told me that, it is a EU version.
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There are two ROMs that I think you are confusing. There's an EU version of the stock ROM which is virtually identical to the Global ROM and there is a custom EU ROM which is probably what you saw in the YouTube video.
The custom EU ROM is reverse engineered from the China ROM rather than the Global. It was originally created to provide a non-Chinese ROM for Xiaomi phones that didn't have an official Global ROM.
The EU ROM has always had serious bugs on every single phone where I have ever flashed it. You should go to the official website for that ROM and look at the discussion/support thread and see if that's still the case.
The EU ROM you are referring to is a custom ROM. You need to unlock the bootloader to flash it and frequently you need to use an unnoficial version of TWRP to do that. People often brick their phones using unofficial TWRP recoveries. Permanently bricking a phone is also way more common on newer Treble compliant phones than it was in the old days so even if you have experience flashing custom ROMs you can still brick your phone and turn it into an expensive paperweight.
I would do more research outside of XDA if you are interested in EU ROM because there is no support for that ROM here.
sorry for the noob post, this is my 1st xiaomi phone
ey guys, just bought this phone a few days back and im waiting for my ubl counter for 3 more days. im not new to phones in general. i used to have a sam gal s2 and s5, and the devs there always recommended the latest released official stock base before using roms.
my question is
currently, i bought this phone as global stable 11.0.5.0 indonesian pcn_ID_xm and updated to 11.0.7.0. i want to change base stock to pcn_CN_xm (fewer bloat and stuff). or is there a better option/opinion?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/xiaomi-redmi-8/how-to/rom-miui-11-xiaomi-eu-t4006247
i just want to have a safe backup in case i need the base firmware before trying to install mods, like odin.
I can't understand you bro. Are you saying that: "How can I change the version of my phone?"
https://mifirm.net/model/olive.ttt
is the site legit? official stock firmwares being able to install by settings - about phone - system update - selecting the zip from the menu without unlocking the bootloader?
i guess "region" would be the better word. currently its a global stable "indonesian region", but im tempted to switch to a global stable "eu region". is there anything important to know when switching official regions?
firest your phone will be out of warranty
see this guide
https://c.mi.com/oc/miuidownload/detail?guide=2
yep already got all those, but what im asking for is on older phones with full system root (not magisk systemless root), later firmwares from late countries usually have better performance.
is that still true with current a/b partitions?
I own the Mi 11 with CN ROM and have been using it in North America. I'm thinking of flashing a different ROM to see if it will be a better experience. Has anyone in my situation flashed both the Global ROM and Xiaomi.eu ROM and can give an opinion on which is better overall? I'd be interested in things like speed, battery life, Play services compatability etc.
Thanks in advance!
It basically boils down to privacy vs latest updates.
Xiaomi will phone home as much as you let it, I think the EU rom is supposed to fix that but updates take a little longer.
philhab said:
I own the Mi 11 with CN ROM and have been using it in North America. I'm thinking of flashing a different ROM to see if it will be a better experience. Has anyone in my situation flashed both the Global ROM and Xiaomi.eu ROM and can give an opinion on which is better overall? I'd be interested in things like speed, battery life, Play services compatability etc.
Thanks in advance!
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If you want more features use the Chinese EU ROM. Speed, battery etc will be the same.
Mackay53 said:
If you want more features use the Chinese EU ROM. Speed, battery etc will be the same.
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Thanks. Is this the same as what people call the "Global ROM"?
philhab said:
Thanks. Is this the same as what people call the "Global ROM"?
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Global is different to the Xiaomi EU one but many wrongly call the EU one global.
Xiaomi EU is based on the Chinese ROM.
Global is for outside China and has less features than Chinese and Xiaomi EU ROM.
Mackay53 said:
Global is different to the Xiaomi EU one but many wrongly call the EU one global.
Xiaomi EU is based on the Chinese ROM.
Global is for outside China and has less features than Chinese and Xiaomi EU ROM.
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I knew that the Global ROM (developed by Xiaomi) is meant for phones outside of China. I also understood that the Xiaomi.eu ROM is created by developers and is different (but based on) the Chinese stock ROM that shipped with the phone. I think you confused me by saying the "Chinese EU ROM" instead of "Xiaomi.eu" ROM which is what I usually see people say.
What I don't like about the Chinese stock ROM for Chinese users is that it doesn't seem to fully support all Google services and the implementation of Android 11 isn't complete (for example I don't see the Nearby Share feature).
What features does the Global ROM (created by Xiaomi for international users) lack that the Chinese ROM has? I think that as long as the Global ROM supports Google services fully I would be happy with it. If not then I guess I would flash the Xiaomi.eu ROM but it would be annoying to have to apply all updates manually.
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I knew that the Global ROM (developed by Xiaomi) is meant for phones outside of China. I also understood that the Xiaomi.eu ROM is created by developers and is different (but based on) the Chinese stock ROM that shipped with the phone. I think you confused me by saying the "Chinese EU ROM" instead of "Xiaomi.eu" ROM which is what I usually see people say.
What I don't like about the Chinese stock ROM for Chinese users is that it doesn't seem to fully support all Google services and the implementation of Android 11 isn't complete (for example I don't see the Nearby Share feature).
What features does the Global ROM (created by Xiaomi for international users) lack that the Chinese ROM has? I think that as long as the Global ROM supports Google services fully I would be happy with it. If not then I guess I would flash the Xiaomi.eu ROM but it would be annoying to have to apply all updates manually.
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Can't actually remember most of them but there was a few. A lot of the AI options like app pre loading etc
Xiaomi also confirmed the global Miui 12.5 update will be a "lite" version of the Chinese Miui so software will be more basic.
When I had the Mi 10 the EU version worked better than the global one with Google and notifications in general. Might of sorted that with next month's release.
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Can't actually remember most of them but there was a few. A lot of the AI options like app pre loading etc
Xiaomi also confirmed the global Miui 12.5 update will be a "lite" version of the Chinese Miui so software will be more basic.
When I had the Mi 10 the EU version worked better than the global one with Google and notifications in general. Might of sorted that with next month's release.
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Ok. Thanks for the info
I have CN ROM and had to tweak it like crazy to get rid of the China stuff and to get notifications to work. Turned off the battery saver for every app I needed notifications and enabled every option.
Now with EU ROM I didn't have to do anything like that, and have the google feed on the left. Everything is perfect with EU - well recommended.
Excuse me for jump in...I want to by Mi 11 Pro. I want Google Play, Google pay, banking aps, Netflix to work. Shell I stay on Chinese Rom or put Xiaomi.eu Rom? I am from Europe. Thanks!
Edit: Now I see it´s an old Topic :-/
xiaomi eu is far superior than stock rom with more features and optimization, no reason to use global rom
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xiaomi eu is far superior than stock rom with more features and optimization, no reason to use global rom
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Hehe lol, but no. More features, yes. More optimization? Definitely not - there are far more lags than in global. Interface isn't very fluid.
does the eu rom has call recording?
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does the eu rom has call recording?
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yes it has
philhab said:
I own the Mi 11 with CN ROM and have been using it in North America. I'm thinking of flashing a different ROM to see if it will be a better experience. Has anyone in my situation flashed both the Global ROM and Xiaomi.eu ROM and can give an opinion on which is better overall? I'd be interested in things like speed, battery life, Play services compatability etc.
Thanks in advance!
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Use xiaomi
philhab said:
I own the Mi 11 with CN ROM and have been using it in North America. I'm thinking of flashing a different ROM to see if it will be a better experience. Has anyone in my situation flashed both the Global ROM and Xiaomi.eu ROM and can give an opinion on which is better overall? I'd be interested in things like speed, battery life, Play services compatability etc.
Thanks in advance!
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Use xiaomi EU rom - can works perfectly on open bootloader, no root
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Hehe lol, but no. More features, yes. More optimization? Definitely not - there are far more lags than in global. Interface isn't very fluid.
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I have already tried the latest stable MIUI14 from xiaomi.eu and it seemed quite alright
But I had one problem - which was rather annoying
I couldn't get my banking app to install properly. And I believe that is because the bootloader is unlocked. But my device was original CN, which I then flashed to xiaomi.eu (and locking the bootloader after that, is not recommended!)
So my question here is - if I install the Global ROM instead (which is xiaomi official, in contrary to the xiaomi.eu ROM), will I be able to lock the bootloader after flashing?
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I have already tried the latest stable MIUI14 from xiaomi.eu and it seemed quite alright
But I had one problem - which was rather annoying
I couldn't get my banking app to install properly. And I believe that is because the bootloader is unlocked. But my device was original CN, which I then flashed to xiaomi.eu (and locking the bootloader after that, is not recommended!)
So my question here is - if I install the Global ROM instead (which is xiaomi official, in contrary to the xiaomi.eu ROM), will I be able to lock the bootloader after flashing?
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With china device? Instant brick.
jstoner said:
I have already tried the latest stable MIUI14 from xiaomi.eu and it seemed quite alright
But I had one problem - which was rather annoying
I couldn't get my banking app to install properly. And I believe that is because the bootloader is unlocked. But my device was original CN, which I then flashed to xiaomi.eu (and locking the bootloader after that, is not recommended!)
So my question here is - if I install the Global ROM instead (which is xiaomi official, in contrary to the xiaomi.eu ROM), will I be able to lock the bootloader after flashing?
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The EU ROM doesn't need to lock bootloader.
The EU ROM looks have a issue relate Google Backup.
Does anyone have the same issue?
New - Google Drive backup bug? Backup gone after reboot [updated]
[updated description below because it seems like backups dissappear after reboot] Not sure if this is from ROM or the Google Drive app. After a day or two my Google backup of my phone dissappears. Even though done successfully before and also shown in Google Drive, it dissappears after a day...
xiaomi.eu
One good reason to move to EU rom: it fixed stuff where China Rom doesn't!
For example, in China/Global ROM miui14.0.12 the AOD display will always turn itself off if it lay on a dark room for around 10 minutes. And turning off Bluetooth from android top down menu will turn off 24 hours only and not forever.
In Miui EU, this they fixed it by making it on always. Same goes to Bluetooth turning off when pressed from top drop down menu.
And many other translation jitter you can notice in China Rom if you were to restart your phone. For instance, calendar will show 1 second of Chinese before becoming english.
This experience thread is exclusively for users of a 12 Pro with Global EEA Rom.
Here you can discuss everything about the EEA version, bugs and other EEA specific user problems.
This is as well usable for locked and unlocked/rooted users.
The EEA Global is since April 18th on version V13.0.16.0.SLBEUXM.
New update for the 12 Pro EEA available.
Security Patch date May 1 2022.
Xiaomi 12 Pro EEA Stable beta V13.0.17.0 SLBEUXM Recovery Rom:
https://bigota.d.miui.com/V13.0.17.0.SLBEUXM/miui_ZEUSEEAGlobal_V13.0.17.0.SLBEUXM_ddb8257ea4_12.0.zip
Why create a new thread when there's already one available from long time?
[MIUI Updates Tracker] Xiaomi 12 Pro (zeus)
MIUI Updates Tracker (Xiaomi 12 Pro) What is MIUI Updates Tracker? An open-source project that automatically tracks Xiaomi MIUI ROM releases! MIUI Updates Tracker is a sibling project of Xiaomi Firmware Updater. Actually, XFU depends on it for...
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This experience thread is exclusively for users of a 12 Pro with Global EEA Rom
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Now the moderator has re-opened this thread we can go on discussing the 12 Pro EEA.
I managed to flash the full EEA Stable beta V13.0.17.0 SLBEUXM recovery rom by just using the option to update by choosing the update file I downloaded seperatly.
Android Security-update date is now 2022-05-01.
Looks everything is fine, it is rooted again and I am using Swift Backup (paid) instead of Titanium Backup since the latter one is not updated anymore since 2019 and it seems it won't be updated anymore.
Swift has a different modern layout and you can make the backup simultaniously or seperate to the device and/or cloud.
For now it works very well.
Also I use Callrecorder from Skavalex since the EEA rom does not support call-recording by itself.
Another thing is that there is atm no custom recovery that works with the 12 Pro or even Android 12 in general.
Since yesterday there is a new update for the Global EEA version.
The date of the security patch is still 1st of May so it is not clear what the changes are.
Will try to find out and post it here when available.
Download link for V13.0.18.0.SLBEUXM:
https://bigota.d.miui.com/V13.0.18.0.SLBEUXM/miui_ZEUSEEAGlobal_V13.0.18.0.SLBEUXM_d7b9b704d3_12.0.zip
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Since yesterday there is a new update for the Global EEA version.
The date of the security patch is still 1st of May so it is not clear what the changes are.
Will try to find out and post it here when available.
Download link for V13.0.18.0.SLBEUXM:
https://bigota.d.miui.com/V13.0.18.0.SLBEUXM/miui_ZEUSEEAGlobal_V13.0.18.0.SLBEUXM_d7b9b704d3_12.0.zip
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Version: V13.0.18.0.SLBEUXM
Branch: Stable Beta
Type: Recovery
Size: 4.3 GB
Release Date: 2022-06-01
[System]
Updated Android Security Patch to May 2022. Increased system security
Anyone know what the differences are between the global rom vs. EEA global rom, the global hasn't gotten an update since April so thinking of switching to EEA... in Canada not Europe.... thanks
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Anyone know what the differences are between the global rom vs. EEA global rom, the global hasn't gotten an update since April so thinking of switching to EEA... in Canada not Europe.... thanks
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just RGPD.
Better than stock rom https://xiaomi.eu/community/threads/miui-13-stable-release.64441/
Well the EEA Global version differs due to the EU Privacy laws so no ads when you during the first setup of the device choose not to allow ads and afterwards you can still switch them off..
Further there is much less bloatware and the few apps that are defined as bloatware you can uninstall easily with ADB or with the XiaomiAdbflash tool.
There is no need for a custom rom like the xiaomi.eu rom because when you are unlocked it is quite easy to remove 99% of the apps you don't like but you can still get the monthly updates from Xiaomi themselves so no issues with camera and other kind of stuff compared with a custom rom.
Nowadays there is no real need for a custom rom because you can make the factory rom as clean as you want by yourself and eventually use apps like Blokada.
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Well the EEA Global version differs due to the EU Privacy laws so no ads when you during the first setup of the device choose not to allow ads and afterwards you can still switch them off..
Further there is much less bloatware and the few apps that are defined as bloatware you can uninstall easily with ADB or with the XiaomiAdbflash tool.
There is no need for a custom rom like the xiaomi.eu rom because when you are unlocked it is quite easy to remove 99% of the apps you don't like but you can still get the monthly updates from Xiaomi themselves so no issues with camera and other kind of stuff compared with a custom rom.
Nowadays there is no real need for a custom rom because you can make the factory rom as clean as you want by yourself and eventually use apps like Blokada.
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Try a Eu rom first then post your review.
Tried it on 2 previous Xiaomi phones and I stand with my opinion.
Been in the custom rom development since 2006 so I know what I am talking about.
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Tried it on 2 previous Xiaomi phones and I stand with my opinion.
Been in the custom rom development since 2006 so I know what I am talking about.
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And the call recorder, the complete themes + aod, the optimizations, a Chinese base etc...
BTW:the Xiaomi eu roms started in 2010.
Chinese MIUI has seemingly improved a lot, and seemed like most of the bloatware was removable when I was trying it. However MIUI and Xiaomi.eu still have that highly suspicious and deeply integrated "Security" app which I would prefer not to have at all. (Have not tried Global or EEA). (Additionally the xiaomi.eu "devs" (maybe not all, but seemingly the majority of them) have serious attitude issues which do not inspire any trust, and a lot of base apps in .EU still want unnecessary permissions and internet connections).
Would love to see Lineage for this phone, even if it means losing the MIUI camera - a choice of ROMs, especially very clean / basic ones, is not a bad thing
Xiaomi is a Chinese brand, EEA, Global, etc. roms are based on Chinese roms and adapted to countries according to the version.
Xiaomi Eu roms are custom roms based on the version of the phone on Chinese or global roms.
For those based on Chinese you will have features or options before xiaomi releases an update.
For example: the video for the calls does not exist on the stock roms except the Chinese ones.
It is a bit of a stretch to call the xiaomi.eu roms "custom" roms, and somewhat of an insult to true custom rom developers who develop the rom in the entirety. .eu roms are mildly modified Chinese MIUI ROMs and over the years there seems to be less and less modifications (at least in the phones I've tried them on). They are certainly useful for phones that are not officially launched globally and full google services is desired, without Chinese specific apps, but where official global or eea roms exist it may be better to go for the official EEA ROM (privacy wise, as another poster indicated) which would have everything necessary without all the telemetry, or alternatively full custom like Arrow / Lineage / Omni / Pixel Experience.
It is quite subjective though and if you prefer Chinese official or .eu ROM's and they do everything you want, then great. If they removed the Security thing & telemetry, or allowed the user to deny permissions while still being able to use certain apps, I would actually rate the Chinese ROM very highly. Right now I am undecided what is best, but hoping for Lineage in the near future.
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And the call recorder, the complete themes + aod, the optimizations, a Chinese base etc...
BTW:the Xiaomi eu roms started in 2010.
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Call Recorder worked already on rooted stok rom with Skavalex Call Recorder which I use for many years now even way before Xiaomi came into the play arena of phones.
Not having the Chinese base is a big plus and all the optimizations you can do yourself and stock Camera is better than Gcam.
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Call Recorder worked already on rooted stok rom with Skavalex Call Recorder which I use for many years now even way before Xiaomi came into the play arena of phones.
Not having the Chinese base is a big plus and all the optimizations you can do yourself and stock Camera is better than Gcam.
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We are talking about Xiaomi eu ROMs that do not need root to have the call recorder.
And it's not Skavalex but Skvalex who It's not free.
"Not having the Chinese base is a big plus and all the optimizations you can do yourself"
Which?
I am talking about official Global EEA and the latter one is point of discussion in this thread and not any other rom.
Optimizations like getting rid of all the apps you do not like, get rid of the few (Xiaomi) apps that eventually will "call home" when you not want it, when not selected at 1st setup that you allow no ads you will get no ads.
When unlocked and rooted I can do with it as much as with any other custom rom but keep the monthly official updates.
So no need for custom rom's and yes it is Skvalex and I have a paid version for it (few bucks) many years ago and he still maintains the app.