Huawei is well known from messing with naming and fallowing basic scheme of flaghips, that why we all can say that Mate 9 or even Honor 8p where somehow successors of P9 even if its different series.
But now when P10 is available, and some of you got your hands on new P10, as a user of P9 I would like to get your opinion how P10 stand against his proper precursor.
To get it more clearly for feature reading and for other users who also think about jumping to new model, lest keep this topic simple, and lets divide this question to few sections:
1. Quality of build and handling. - Few words about how its made and how it feel in hand compared to P9? For example P9 is well known for being really slippery, how P10 handle?
2. Battery life and charging. - small comparison of how battery behave in everyday usage compared to P9? It is also are really good and fast at charging by standard charger? It it also dont mind if you use it in the same time without loosing that charging speed?
3. Performance. - I found out that even with really average GPU, P9 was really good at handling even more demanding task like gaming, and VR. How P10 behave in those tasks? Does VR work and look nicer? Not benchamark numbers but real user experience.
And most important, How system behave in everyday usage? One of reason why I choosed P9 over Galaxy S7 was that P9 didnt had those weird slow downs in simple task, its stable and fast in typical use. How P10 behave? does it have any memory problems(eg browser need to reload site if you show it after using other app in background?)
4. Camera - How it behave in terms of speed(opening and taking RAW pic). How P10 stand against P9 in terms of overall quality of images? How about video quality and size ratio does new encoding of 4k make any problems?
5. Other useful comparison between those two. - For example I found out that P9 is really fast at booting. Or it sometimes doesnt respond to touch if you have a bit wet finger. Also even if Fingerprint senor is really fast, even small amount of sweat/dirt make it useless and you need to wipe your finger and sensor few times before it unlock phone, and Also how it behave if its in front of the phone? For me its really bad placement, but in your opinion front fingerprint sensor is better?
6. Overall conclusion of comparison. - It is really worth updating P9 to P10? Is there really big jump between those two to get rid of just one year old P9 and getting P10?
Hi,
about point 4 above for Camera comparison between P9 and P10, I read that P9 has a selection of 1/4000 sec to 30 seconds of manual shutter speeds, but P10 only gets as slow as a fraction of second as the slowest speed. Do you know or does anybody know if the P10 can be used to take 1, 2 or even 5, 10 or 30 sec exposures in manual Pro mode? I know if that there is a light painting mode but I understand that is a software composition module.
Many thanks!!
Leandro.
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Hi,
about point 4 above for Camera comparison between P9 and P10, I read that P9 has a selection of 1/4000 sec to 30 seconds of manual shutter speeds, but P10 only gets as slow as a fraction of second as the slowest speed. Do you know or does anybody know if the P10 can be used to take 1, 2 or even 5, 10 or 30 sec exposures in manual Pro mode? I know if that there is a light painting mode but I understand that is a software composition module.
Many thanks!!
Leandro.
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Hum... Idk for P10 but speaking from using a P10 Plus, I do have 30s exposition in manual Pro mode.
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Hum... Idk for P10 but speaking from using a P10 Plus, I do have 30s exposition in manual Pro mode.
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Great, thanks!
R.azn said:
Hum... Idk for P10 but speaking from using a P10 Plus, I do have 30s exposition in manual Pro mode.
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yep, p10 in here .. it has all the functions
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I need a new phone, and am currently interested in the Huawei P9 Plus or the Samsung S7 Edge.
The main tak of my new phone should be for video and photography (besides me using it as a phone )
Which one is the better camera?
Based on experience
For video the Samsung is the better phone (4K Video). Based on reading the spec sheets.
Moreover the S7E has the optical image stabilization (OIS) that is very useful especially for video recording.
And now the international unbranded S7E can be found with a price slightly lower than the P9+.
Huawei P9 plus
I have used samsung for 6 years .. I never saw any of their cameras that can match that of the P9 or P9 plus .
The P9 line has the Leica double lens technology , it does not need OIS to perform in a superior way .. I am now the proud owner of the P9 plus ..
Video- s7 edge
Photo - p9 plus
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Video- s7 edge
Photo - p9 plus
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Hello Craleb,
Why do you say that? Is that based on personal experience, or is that based om comparing the specs of both phone?
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Hello Craleb,
Why do you say that? Is that based on personal experience, or is that based om comparing the specs of both phone?
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Personal experience here:
Video : S7 Edge => OIS is a win. P9 Plus come with digital IS but your video will still be choppier and trimmed due to the technology.
Photo : S7 Edge => Much superior autofocus and low-light performance (f/1.7). Both perform admirably during daytime so the difference here come down pretty much to personal preference. I personally like the Leica interface and some of the modes come with that (shoot first, focus later, filters, light photography, night mode etc). P9 tends to get a little too grainy during low-light shots and slow to get a focus on things.
Black&White Photography : P9 Plus, hands down. No B&W filter can come close to the level of details and contrast that the dedicated cam on the P9 Plus can bring. The result is just gorgeous even when you shoot the most random stuff.
As far as the potential of the tech go, P9 Plus has much more potential. The post processing and the lowlight performance can theoretically be improved with a software update but I wont hold my hope for that. As is now, the S7 Edge still has the edge (forgive the pun) when you consider the overall performance for things you use daily. So unless you are a big fan of B&W photography, pick the Edge.
Great review. That confirms pretty much the general opinion on the online reviews I've read elsewhere. Have you played with RAW images at all? Just wondering if that improves things.
The S7 is sharp, detailed and hard to fault
but the P9 has its charms. It leans heavily on artistic styling, where image fidelity comes second. sometimes it has trouble focusing and without ois blur is fairly common in low light situations.
Some people look Samsung oversharpening filter as more detail... but it's really exaggerated on S7/S7E.
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Some people look Samsung oversharpening filter as more detail... but it's really exaggerated on S7/S7E.
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yer that's valid. tbh the output from the S7 cam doesn't show any improvement over the S6
compared side by side when zoomed right in, P9 pics do show a noticeable lack of detail however
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yer that's valid. tbh the output from the S7 cam doesn't show any improvement over the S6
compared side by side when zoomed right in, P9 pics do show a noticeable lack of detail however
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I don't know, some people use auto mode rather than night mode in low light... I have some doubts about it.
In good light it seems great.
I would test it
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I don't know, some people use auto mode rather than night mode in low light... I have some doubts about it.
In good light it seems great.
I would test it
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One thing to consider regarding the P9 camera is that it has issues with popular apps. As of today, the camera doesn't work properly with WhatsApp or Snapchat. You get odd issues like auto zoom, slowmo videos, audio issues.....and no update from Huawei to fix.
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One thing to consider regarding the P9 camera is that it has issues with popular apps. As of today, the camera doesn't work properly with WhatsApp or Snapchat. You get odd issues like auto zoom, slowmo videos, audio issues.....and no update from Huawei to fix.
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dont have those problem with whatsapp. Dont use snapchat so i cant say anything about it.
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Samsung can shoot 120 and 240 fps. Big deal for slow mo lovers.
Huawei p9 plus destroys samsung s7 edge in terms of camera,p9 plus can do manual configuration,just need to study about iso,exposure,shutter etc. just like DSLR,if auto i take S7 edge,but if manual mode,Big YES for Huawei P9 Plus.
Hey guys, I'm seriously considering getting a Huawei P9. I'm not a big fan of EMUI [i currently own Huawei GR5 (Honor 5X)], but the P9 pretty much the best device in my budget.
Hows the entire user experience? battery life? Speed?!
Since it's Kirin CPU, I'm guessing we'll not see CM on this device for some time? lol
Also, which model is more popular? In terms of software update availability and stuff? L19? L09? or L29?
From my own experience I came from a LG G4, yeh it has an excellent camera and fluid as hell, but I changed 'cuz the battery life (in G4 it suck , charging almost every day, and stopping data and/or wifi to extend it a little more)... Huawei P9 has an awesome battery.. with 31% you can still have like ~10hr (wifi/data on non stop).. Speed?? 3 GB Ram is more than enough, really good, I don't care about how many apps I opened, the response it's fluid and without lags.
I have both the P9 and galaxy S7 because I can't decide which I like the best. So here are my thoughts:
The P9 is the best allrounder, it beats the S7 on nearly everything except the camera and overall functionality.
The camera in P9 is good but compared to the S7 it blow chunks! It is so big difference you can't ignore it.
The more money u have to pay for the S7 is worth it.
And then there is the Emui, it's more fluid than touchwiz but there is just so many stupid things with Emui, like not all media players work on the lock screen, so far I only got power amp, spotify and Google music to show up on the lock screen.
Despite of all this I still come back to the P9, it's just more fun.
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The camera in P9 is good but compared to the S7 it blow chunks! It is so big difference you can't ignore it.
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On camera, the weak point of the P9 is video. Pictures are amazing. If you depend on video go for s7. If you just wanna take pictures the P9 is absolutely fine.
Also check out the Nougat beta for the P9 on youtube, from my experience so far Huawei has been very good with updates. And the Nougat rom (EMUI 5.0) will change things a lot in terms of software.
And the hardware is amazing. USB C, full metal body (Glass backs are a no go for me personally) and no camera bump. FP reader is perfect. Everything is fast and smooth, I've seen no slowdowns at all and battery is great too (2 full days minimum for me).
If you like to flash custom roms and stuff and use CM etc, one look in the dev thread will show that custom kernels/roms are just now slowly coming on. Recovery, root and xposed are all working fine though.
I went for the P9 over the S7, because it has way better price/performance ratio and for me better hardware design. It's just a much more interesting phone to me.
The P9 will give you more bang for the buck. Very fluid UI (no freezing, stuttering or random reboots). Everything just works (bluetooth, wifi - I get wifi in the house in places where I didn't get any with my LG G3 and OnePlus 2). Camera is great for still photography. Video quality is still pretty good even though it doesn't do 4K or have OIS. And the fingerprint scanner is just ridiculous... Takes just 3 or 4 taps to set up and works lightning fast every single time. Phone design is very sleek and feels great in hand (no camera hump neither!). Battery life is pretty good with about 4 to 5 hours of SOT. On slow days it can last 1.5 - 2 days.
EMUI takes some getting used to and takes some setting up to get everything working the way you want to, but that just means the initial set-up process is just a wee bit longer than on other phones.
If you don't like the look (like me), just install Nova Launcher and an icon pack of your choice. That'll give you double tap to sleep as well!
As for theming: there's quite an active theming community for EMUI on Google Plus.
With Nova launcher, icons and an EMUI theme running you can get close enough to a stock experience.
Hi guys !
I need your opinions on a new phone, for a long time i've been waiting for a phone to come to satisfy most of my needs... I don't need much but one thing i always wanted was clean stock android, a decent camera and if possible sd reader because i like having music on my phone.
Most of the phones that came out have custom roms and even though that they were good i didnt get them. Until Nokia 8 was announced which i saw that has almost all the ticks for me (im still using a nexus 4 from 2012 lol)
The only thing that i wanted is if the camera is at least decent because for simiral money i can get a p10 but dont like the idea of EMUI and because of the software updates
I saw reviews about Nokia 8 and everyone was saying that as a device is ok, also i saw that using the Google Camera Apk gets better photos so that means there is potential for the camera
If someone has the phone already give some feedback in general because im still waiting for Nokia 8 to arrive in Cyprus
Thanks and sorry for the long post !
We tested with my friend p10 plus camera vs nokia 8.
P10 plus have better photo options so it can make better image, but the difference was so small that can only be noticeable when zooming the image to max in screen.
Test was made dark and both phones was set to iso 400 and 300 etc...
When settings where full auto..thep10 plus makes very much noise compared to nokia, so the cropped image was not so clear as nokia.
Nokia max iso speed is 1600.
P10 plus is 3200.
So if take fast pic in low light without limiting iso speed nokia wins in camera.
Im waiting for update if the camera is going to have full manual so i can take shots with long exposure, now its limited to about 1s.
But overall im very happy with this...i can even watch vr xxx.
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We tested with my friend p10 plus camera vs nokia 8.
P10 plus have better photo options so it can make better image, but the difference was so small that can only be noticeable when zooming the image to max in screen.
Test was made dark and both phones was set to iso 400 and 300 etc...
When settings where full auto..thep10 plus makes very much noise compared to nokia, so the cropped image was not so clear as nokia.
Nokia max iso speed is 1600.
P10 plus is 3200.
So if take fast pic in low light without limiting iso speed nokia wins in camera.
Im waiting for update if the camera is going to have full manual so i can take shots with long exposure, now its limited to about 1s.
But overall im very happy with this...i can even watch vr xxx.
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Thanks for the reply !!!
Hello! Well, the time have come for an upgrade. My S7e's battery is dying too quick and is laggy as hell. Looking for replacements, i have the option to get this phone for pretty much nothing on my carrier. Should i got for it?
My main concerns are the overall performance (CPU and GPU) as i hate laggy phones and battery life, would love a phone that actually gets me through the day. Is the Mate 20 Lite good enough for me?
Will be good to mention for what you use your phone mostly.
Anyway, here are my thoughts.
If you are gaming kind user... Go for other phone. Here you must be play at medium settings on most of the games.
If you are camera kind user... Go for other phone. Here you will got a pretty much a mediocre quality photos. AI camera is much of the marketing trick, To me HDR on back camera didn't work well. You cant install a gCam bcoz of a Kirin soc limitations. After shot processing is poor. Overall camera satisfaction is little below average.
If you are social media kind user... Keep in mind screen dimming issue. You will play much with a brightness slider very often in apps.
If you are easy kind user... If you use a phone mostly for calls, little web browsing, few captures with frends that you watching on the phone... Maybe Mate 20 Lite will fit to you. Battery is the bigger advantage of this device. Will take you more than a day and half with that kind of usage.
I'm sure on this price every phone will have disadvantages, but take a look on Poco F1, Honor play, Asus ZenFone 5, Moto G6 Plus or some Samsung A series.
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Will be good to mention for what you use your phone mostly.
Anyway, here are my thoughts.
If you are gaming kind user... Go for other phone. Here you must be play at medium settings on most of the games.
If you are camera kind user... Go for other phone. Here you will got a pretty much a mediocre quality photos. AI camera is much of the marketing trick, To me HDR on back camera didn't work well. You cant install a gCam bcoz of a Kirin soc limitations. After shot processing is poor. Overall camera satisfaction is little below average.
If you are social media kind user... Keep in mind screen dimming issue. You will play much with a brightness slider very often in apps.
If you are easy kind user... If you use a phone mostly for calls, little web browsing, few captures with frends that you watching on the phone... Maybe Mate 20 Lite will fit to you. Battery is the bigger advantage of this device. Will take you more than a day and half with that kind of usage.
I'm sure on this price every phone will have disadvantages, but take a look on Poco F1, Honor play, Asus ZenFone 5, Moto G6 Plus or some Samsung A series.
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Thank for your insights! Im more of a gamer. A good camera is appreciated, but not an absolute must. I would like it to be on par with my S7e at least though. I will see what i can do then. Seems like this phone isn't the one for me. The Honor Play seems nice but its not available on my carrier/country.
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Hello! Well, the time have come for an upgrade. My S7e's battery is dying too quick and is laggy as hell. Looking for replacements, i have the option to get this phone for pretty much nothing on my carrier. Should i got for it?
My main concerns are the overall performance (CPU and GPU) as i hate laggy phones and battery life, would love a phone that actually gets me through the day. Is the Mate 20 Lite good enough for me?
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I would say it's a downgrade man! Try to grab a Mate 10 PRO at least!
Hi guys,
I need some recommendations from you. I am coming from a chaing of Samsung devices. (S3, S7 Edge, my latest device was a Note 8, which I sadly lost on the weekend), so now I need something new...
Simple question, after your experiences with the P20 Pro, would you still recommend it?
My most important priorities for a mobile are:
1.) Camera!
2.) Battery / runtime
3.) Updates
in that order.
I don't care about rooting & flashing any more tbh, these times are behind me
I am also not a big mobile gamer.
Other contenders I think about next to the P20 Pro are currently:
- S9+
- Oneplus 6T
- ?
Would you still go for the P20 pro? Or select something different?
Thanks!
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Got my P20 pro 2 weeks ago.
I come from Sony (Z, Z2, XZ,...) and decided to change after lots of frustration (Sony SHOULD be better. Why do others do better with their own hardware ?!)
I chose the P20 pro for its camera, after reading lots of 'reviews'...
And I'm very disapointed... IA is bull****, I don't use it.
Zoom has nothing to do with 'optical' : you get better results cropping a 40 Mo 'pro' mode picture.
But the worst thing is distortion, that's just incredible...
I'll come back with pictures, I'm at work now !
Just my 2 cents : try to find someone that can make you try the P20 pro camera. Maybe you'll like it (many do), many you won't.
now that I know, I would not buy without testing myself.
+ v9 update has lots of important bugs (see posts in this forum) , I went back to 8.1.
(I see you don't care about UB, root,... but the Huawei policy should have left me far from them... Sadly, I read this forum 6 months ago, before bying recently, and then discovered they don't give UB code any more !)
This is a review I found a bit too late :
https://pocketnow.com/huawei-p20-pro-photographers-guide
You may find this interesting : https://forum.xda-developers.com/huawei-p20-pro/help/shooting-raw-severe-vignetting-t3776240/page3
I did test cornerfix with the P20 pro profile : it's far better.
But I already have a Canon 7D as DSLR and enough raw files to edit !
I'm coming from s7edge as well.
Would not pick the p20 Pro the second time.
The photos look good, the night mode is really good but similar results I could get with s7e .
Video quality is horrid (s7e modded to 100mbps bitrate)
Now, I would go for op6 as temporary phone and later down the year switch it to something more modern.
I had the op 6t and the camera was absolute trash. Couldn't shoot anything with the slightest movement and super soft when shooting people. Maybe things have gotten better since launch. I loved the software but had to return due to the camera.
Camera on the p20 pro is good, but it's not life changing. I like the s8 and s9 cameras. They do some things better, some worse.
Updates depend on the region you are located. I have the Chinese version and with hicare in China region I get updates quickly. Battery life is good, I get a full day and I'm a pretty heavy user. No way I get 2 days on this tho like others say.
Thanks you guys so far!
Status:
Makes me a little uncomfortable regarding the P20 and disqualifies the OPO6T so far
So to be clear what I personally expect from a camera
- I want an auto-mode click and shoot cam which delivers great results
- with a fast shutter speed! (moving objects in not optimal lighting conditions shouldn't be blurred because of auto-low shutter speeds)
- I don't care much about pro-modes, RAW & optical zooms & selfies...
In that regard I think I would normally go with the Pixel 3, but my problem is that it's not officially sold in my country and it's very expensive.
So seems like S9+ vs P20 Pro now.
Judging from my Note 8, which had troubles making pics of moving stuff indoors or at poorer light, I'd say that the S9 will suffer the same behaviour.
How does the P20 Pro do here?
And is the video quality of the P20 really that bad??
I can't think of any other good camera phones which play in the same league as both of them, which are reasonably priced ( bye bye Pixel :crying: )