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Hi, I want to root my S3 mini, above model, running Android 4.1.2. I'd love to be free of the huge amount of bloatware that came with the phone so I can optimise its functionality.
However, I previously tried to root my Samsung Galaxy Y and ended up bricking the phone in spite of various attempts.
The endless threads going off in different directions are not particularly helpful either.
Also, if I do manage to root the phone, how can I be sure that there won't be conflicts with Samsung firmware updates etc.
I'm trying to make the process as smooth as possible. I know people on here give their time freely and appreciate that but losing half a day just trying to get a bricked phone back to its original state is not much fun.
Hey bro while upgrading any samsung device it is told that if the device is rooted i may cause problems.. So i think the mistake you make is upgrading your phone after rooting which eventually leads you bricking your device....
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Also, if I do manage to root the phone, how can I be sure that there won't be conflicts with Samsung firmware updates etc.
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you won't get any samsung updates after rooting so there won't be any conflicts.
maybe these videos will help you how to root and install a custom rom.
I'm using the I8190 and I can asure you, once you have found a ROM that fits your needs, you won't miss Samsung updates. You can simply flash the new ROM, or you can wait and have a look if there are problems reported, then you stay on the firmware.
Downgrade? No problem.
Wanna change Rom? No problem.
Once you got for root and maybe even an upgraded ROM you won't miss a thing
OK, how do I know what mod is the best given my spec?
You mean which ROM?
Well, you can try a few and see which one fits your needs best, simply search the forum
I was referring to the CyanogenMod 10.2 mentioned in the video posted.
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I was referring to the CyanogenMod 10.2 mentioned in the video posted.
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I personally prefer CM 11, for me its quite stable and got a wide variety of features :good:
Other than the cynogenmod by maclaw, stay tuned in for the android L release (which maclaw also will build yay).
OK, can you give me a link for the latest most stable CyanogenMod/Rom? Thanks.
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OK, can you give me a link for the latest most stable CyanogenMod/Rom? Thanks.
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Check your messages mate not sure if i'm allowed to link to maclaw's site
Just Link to his xda when in doubt
Hi,
I got the 1+3 since 3 days, and I must say that from the ROM point of view I quite happy with it ;
It is ...
1. Stable
2. Quick
3. Battery friendly
4. Enough customisation
5. Not Bloatware
Of course there is room for improvement in each points, I know, but ....
Usually I root for point 4. & 5. and I put Custom ROM for point 1. 2. & 3.
But this time, I´m not so hurry
Same here. I have rooted to solve memory management issue but dont really fancy putting a CM rom on it. Will wait until there is a stable oxygen rom I think
I will wait also. Hopefully more CM13 mods will come and improve performance in general.
I got it since 2 days and was very surprised on easy unlocking bootloader and rooting. ROM seems stable and quick enough. I assume that I will wait for an Android N port before I change to a custom ROM. Has someone an idea if there are already devs on the way to cook N-ROMs for different devices?
Same here, only rooted it for the memory fix, OOS have everything I want
I will for sure flash RR and Bliss Flashing Roms is why i bought this device.
andywright1982 said:
Same here. I have rooted to solve memory management issue but dont really fancy putting a CM rom on it. Will wait until there is a stable oxygen rom I think
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I haven't even rooted - but I am quite happy with Oxygen 3, feel no great urge to customise or get CM etc installed. I really like it.
Does Android Pay still work on your device??
Thought I was the only one.
No intention of rooting at the moment.
Have a few apps for work that need a stock phone, plus banking apps etc.
But yep OOS3 seems to have everything with nova launcher.
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Same here, OxygenOS is awesome so far, but I rooted for Xposed.
Those that have been flashing roms for 3+ years pretty much get tired of doing it and want all stock. New people get excited about flashing new roms and do it for 3+ years until they end up getting tired too
Valid points for staying on OOS, it's a good rom that has most all customizations I need and the rest I can get with xposed...
Thing is do you EVER plan on flashing a rom? My answer is of course so I decided to go ahead and decrypt (format data) now as opposed to later after I have all my music, etc loaded on.
Running Grarak's CM13 swimmingly.
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Those that have been flashing roms for 3+ years pretty much get tired of doing it and want all stock. New people get excited about flashing new roms and do it for 3+ years until they end up getting tired too
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Well in my case, I've been flashing rom's for 8 years. This is the first device I've not felt the need out of the box.
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Those that have been flashing roms for 3+ years pretty much get tired of doing it and want all stock. New people get excited about flashing new roms and do it for 3+ years until they end up getting tired too
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+1 here. I've been rooting phones for 5+ years as soon as I got them. But now, I'm wondering if I even need to bother.
Yeah, this is hard one. Thanks devs for quickly coming up with root, unlock, custom, and tweaks. Not sure if rooting is needed. I think we can all agree, if you want more out of the devices, you quickly root. For some reason, that's not necessary for one+3. I'm pretty sure we will get bored and devs will come out with super awesome Roms in the near future with many added tweaks. But this phone is solid. Might need a month's of stock rom usage and more arising issues before I will jump to rooting. Great device no complaints..
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Yes also for me. Great Rom and the first time that I don't want to change the rom!
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I agree, I actually like this stock, I got pretty much everything I need, iI will just miss flashing nightlies but I won't miss all the down time and missed text messages
Been flashing ROMs for 6 years now, always running cm, and I have been seriously considering given oos a few days before flashing, but also I'm to used to cm
I'm waiting for Multiboot/Dualboot patch...keeping Stock-Rom on first "partition" and Custom-ROM on second...
Hi everyone,
I've jusdt purchased a Xiaomi MI5 for my girlfriend and have been trying to build my knowledge of how to install TWRP, root it, and add Cyanogenmod. I think I've managed to get all of the information that I need, but I would just like to check it with your good selves before I go ahead.
The phone currently has the global stable rom installed, and I understand that I need to flash over that before I can get the bootloader unlocked, and I can do so by using the built in "updater" app to flash the rom that will allow the BL unlock.
QUESTION: What is the best Rom to use? Can I unlock bootloader with a Global Dev Rom, or does it need to be a China Variant?
Once I have flashed a rom that will allow the bootloader to be unlocked, I need to follow the unlocking procedure, wait for it to be authorised by Xiaomi, then use the Mi Unlock tool.
From there, I can flash TWRP via fastboot, and once that is done, flash CM, and finally SuperSU.
Have I got all of that right, my friends, or would anyone else do anything differently?
Much obliged for all the help that I have received in the past from the good folk on XDA. If I've been able to perceive the correct course of action, it's only because I've stood on the shoulders of you giants.
Best regards,
p.s. Believe it or not, I'm still using an antiquated Samsung Galaxy Media Player 5.0, and having had a quick play with the MI5, it feels like adanced alien technology in comparison. Very snappy indeed and I'm feeling quite jealous of the Missus.
One step at the time then fellas. To get bootloader unlock I must be on a dev rom. Can I flash straight to Global Dev using the "Updater" app? thanks
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One step at the time then fellas. To get bootloader unlock I must be on a dev rom. Can I flash straight to Global Dev using the "Updater" app? thanks
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If you are on stable rom you can't flash developer rom via Updater app. You can do it only via fastboot using MiFlash tool. About what development rom you should use, Global or China, China version is the best shot. At the of the day makes no difference. You still need to download any of them and anyway China version have english language. So using it for a while until you manage to unlock your bootloader shouldn't be an issue.
On another matter now... In your first post you was talking about installing CM. My advice from my own experience is to stay on MIUI for now. CM 14.1 is still on early stages of development. As of today MIUI 8.1 is way more stable than CM. There's absolutely no comparison between camera quality. Battery last longer and performance wise, on my usage (Facebook, Messenger, Whatsapp, lots of browsing, lots of hours of playing Need for Speed No Limits and Vainglory) there's no difference between MIUI and CM14.1. So far photos quality is way lower on CM, video recording buggy (i don't know if it's fixed in last build), some people are complaining about Bluetooth issues... Anyway...is your girlfriend willing to flash nightly CM builds on a daily basis? Mine for sure would throw the phone through the window lol.
Yes I know that "legend" is saying that CM roms are snapier and more customisable than stock roms. Not the case for CM14.1, at least not yet... Customisation wise what you can do on CM14.1 you can do on MIUI 8. And theme engine is not ready for CM14.1 yet...so much about customisation. On MIUI8 the theme engine works just fine and the themes collection is quite large.
If you chose to stay on MIUI i assume you'll want a debloated rom. My advice is to go for xiaomi.eu roms. Xiaomi.eu roms are based on China versions (China versions gets updates more often than global version) without bloatware.
At fist , you must be using MIflash tool to get bootloader unlock.Next to install TWRP.
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If you are on stable rom you can't flash developer rom via Updater app. You can do it only via fastboot using MiFlash tool. About what development rom you should use, Global or China, China version is the best shot. At the of the day makes no difference. You still need to download any of them and anyway China version have english language. So using it for a while until you manage to unlock your bootloader shouldn't be an issue.
On another matter now... In your first post you was talking about installing CM. My advice from my own experience is to stay on MIUI for now. CM 14.1 is still on early stages of development. As of today MIUI 8.1 is way more stable than CM. There's absolutely no comparison between camera quality. Battery last longer and performance wise, on my usage (Facebook, Messenger, Whatsapp, lots of browsing, lots of hours of playing Need for Speed No Limits and Vainglory) there's no difference between MIUI and CM14.1. So far photos quality is way lower on CM, video recording buggy (i don't know if it's fixed in last build), some people are complaining about Bluetooth issues... Anyway...is your girlfriend willing to flash nightly CM builds on a daily basis? Mine for sure would throw the phone through the window lol.
Yes I know that "legend" is saying that CM roms are snapier and more customisable than stock roms. Not the case for CM14.1, at least not yet... Customisation wise what you can do on CM14.1 you can do on MIUI 8. And theme engine is not ready for CM14.1 yet...so much about customisation. On MIUI8 the theme engine works just fine and the themes collection is quite large.
If you chose to stay on MIUI i assume you'll want a debloated rom. My advice is to go for xiaomi.eu roms. Xiaomi.eu roms are based on China versions (China versions gets updates more often than global version) without bloatware.
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Thank you Vladimir for your considered and thoughtful reply.
I had thought about using miflash, but the instructions here:
http://en.miui.com/a-234.html
state, "Click here to download MiFlash. If your device is locked. please click here to unlock it first. "
Since I want to flash a dev rom in order to unlock, the instructions to unlock and then flash made no sense to me. It is okay to go from Global stable (8.0.2.0 MAAMIDG, in my case) to China Dev 6.12.15 via MiFlash and I can do this with a regular USB-c cable and not a deepflash cable, is this correct?
I think you make a good point about CM 14.1 not being ready for prime time. I think my girlfriend would prefer the graphical touches of MIUI 8 in any event. Can you confirm that I can use xiaomi.eu rom with root, twrp and x-posed network if needed. That should do for now.
Thanks again, my friend. I anticipate your reply.
https://xiaomi.eu/community/threads...r-xiaomi-mi5-unlocked-bl-only-released.31231/
If you chose method 1 (fastboot) you'll end with TWRP installed aswell. From there just flash SuperSu and done. After that you can update via updater app to last version. My advice is to stay away from Nougat for now. Is still under development and all additions are just under the hood. No new features. If you have any issues with unlocking the bootloader you can literally ask in any thread...the community is more active there. And unlike XDA you won't get an "wrong thread stupid!" or an "use the search button damn it!".
Xposed works just fine but you need this version http://en.miui.com/thread-273424-1-1.html
About CM14.1 don't get me wrong...things are moving fast. And the progress made in just 2-3 weeks its amazing. I just don't think it is what it should be on a gifted phone.
-Hey babe! Merry Xmas! This is your Xmas present: a brand new Xiaomi MI5!.
-Awww...thanks hun! Anything i should know about this phone babe?
-Ummmm...yes...
-What?
-The selfies you are going to take...
-What about my selfies?
-Not really Facebook/Instagram ready...and you know? Sometimes if you switch off WiFi data connection won't work... But it's all good...you just need to turn on and off airplane mode
-Ummmm...ok. I assume I'm happy with your Xmas gift
Time is passing...few days later, New Year Day...your girlfriend wants to take a look at the videos she recorded at New Years Eve party....suddenly...
-Baaaaaaaaaabe!
-What!?
- I can't find my videos from last night
- Ummm...i forgot to tell you something
- What????
- Video recording is broken...
vladimir_carlan said:
https://xiaomi.eu/community/threads...r-xiaomi-mi5-unlocked-bl-only-released.31231/
If you chose method 1 (fastboot) you'll end with TWRP installed aswell. From there just flash SuperSu and done. After that you can update via updater app to last version. My advice is to stay away from Nougat for now. Is still under development and all additions are just under the hood. No new features. If you have any issues with unlocking the bootloader you can literally ask in any thread...the community is more active there. And unlike XDA you won't get an "wrong thread stupid!" or an "use the search button damn it!".
Xposed works just fine but you need this version http://en.miui.com/thread-273424-1-1.html
About CM14.1 don't get me wrong...things are moving fast. And the progress made in just 2-3 weeks its amazing. I just don't think it is what it should be on a gifted phone.
-Hey babe! Merry Xmas! This is your Xmas present: a brand new Xiaomi MI5!.
-Awww...thanks hun! Anything i should know about this phone babe?
-Ummmm...yes...
-What?
-The selfies you are going to take...
-What about my selfies?
-Not really Facebook/Instagram ready...and you know? Sometimes if you switch off WiFi data connection won't work... But it's all good...you just need to turn on and off airplane mode
-Ummmm...ok. I assume I'm happy with your Xmas gift
Time is passing...few days later, New Year Day...your girlfriend wants to take a look at the videos she recorded at New Years Eve party....suddenly...
-Baaaaaaaaaabe!
-What!?
- I can't find my videos from last night
- Ummm...i forgot to tell you something
- What????
- Video recording is broken...
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Thanks again for your reply, Vladimir. The nice thing about the MI5 is that MIUI has had time to have some of the bugs ironed out so I agree that it would be foolish to jump straight into CM 14.1 without giving it time to mature. My girlfriend cares not one bit for technical things and, you're right, would not understand why things don't work properly and would think that I had bought her a lemon of a phone.
Can I ask you one more thing, my friend? The more I read (and with your help) the more I learn, but I am always coming across contradictions. For example, I thought with a locked bootloader one had to use a deepflash cable to overwrite the bootloader via MiFlash and fastboot. Here are the instructions I found which clearly delineate between unlocked bootloader and normal usb cable, and locked bootloader with deepflash engineering cable.
http://xiaomitips.com/guide/how-to-flash-miui-global-stable-rom-on-mi-5-running-china-stable-rom/
Is this the only way to go to China Dev rom i.e. do I need to order a deepflash cable? I am confused.
Thanks again for all your help, I can assure you it is very much appreciated especially the part about flashing the EU rom with TWRP. That sounds just what I need.
Cheers,
p.s. thanks for pointing me to the right xposed module too!
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One step at the time then fellas. To get bootloader unlock I must be on a dev rom. Can I flash straight to Global Dev using the "Updater" app? thanks
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imgettingold said:
Thanks again for your reply, Vladimir. The nice thing about the MI5 is that MIUI has had time to have some of the bugs ironed out so I agree that it would be foolish to jump straight into CM 14.1 without giving it time to mature. My girlfriend cares not one bit for technical things and, you're right, would not understand why things don't work properly and would think that I had bought her a lemon of a phone.
Can I ask you one more thing, my friend? The more I read (and with your help) the more I learn, but I am always coming across contradictions. For example, I thought with a locked bootloader one had to use a deepflash cable to overwrite the bootloader via MiFlash and fastboot. Here are the instructions I found which clearly delineate between unlocked bootloader and normal usb cable, and locked bootloader with deepflash engineering cable.
http://xiaomitips.com/guide/how-to-flash-miui-global-stable-rom-on-mi-5-running-china-stable-rom/
Is this the only way to go to China Dev rom i.e. do I need to order a deepflash cable? I am confused.
Thanks again for all your help, I can assure you it is very much appreciated especially the part about flashing the EU rom with TWRP. That sounds just what I need.
Cheers,
p.s. thanks for pointing me to the right xposed module too!
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My bad. You need MI PC Suite. Here is a guide:
http://xiaomitips.com/guide/how-to-fix-bricked-mi-5-with-locked-bootloader-and-update-to-global-rom/
Don't pay attention to the "bricked device" in the title. The procedure is the same. This is what I used to go from the fake rom to chinese dev one. Keep in mind that you need to download RECOVERY roms and in MI PC Suite you need to chose RECOVERY FLASH (R.Flash).
Ahh, now it makes sense. Thanks for clearing that up for me. Apologies for the slight delay in getting back to you Vladimir. I've typed up two verbose replies and lost them because XDA logged me out whilst writing them so I'll keep this one brief.
You emphasized using the recovery ROM, but do you have a link perchance for the china dev recovery as I've only been able to find a link for the global stable rom in flashboot and recovery flavours. The only link I have for china dev is this one
http://en.miui.com/download-299.html#435
and that does not specify recovery, so flashboot should be assumed?
Thanks again, friend, and wishing you (and your girlfriend) a Merry Christmas whilst I have your ear.
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Ahh, now it makes sense. Thanks for clearing that up for me. Apologies for the slight delay in getting back to you Vladimir. I've typed up two verbose replies and lost them because XDA logged me out whilst writing them so I'll keep this one brief.
You emphasized using the recovery ROM, but do you have a link perchance for the china dev recovery as I've only been able to find a link for the global stable rom in flashboot and recovery flavours. The only link I have for china dev is this one
http://en.miui.com/download-299.html#435
and that does not specify recovery, so flashboot should be assumed?
Thanks again, friend, and wishing you (and your girlfriend) a Merry Christmas whilst I have your ear.
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If I remember correctly, when you do R.Flash in MI PC Suite you can chose the MIUI Version (Stable or Dev) and the download will be made automatically.
imgettingold said:
The phone currently has the global stable rom installed, and I understand that I need to flash over that before I can get the bootloader unlocked, and I can do so by using the built in "updater" app to flash the rom that will allow the BL unlock.
QUESTION: What is the best Rom to use? Can I unlock bootloader with a Global Dev Rom, or does it need to be a China Variant?
Once I have flashed a rom that will allow the bootloader to be unlocked, I need to follow the unlocking procedure, wait for it to be authorised by Xiaomi, then use the Mi Unlock tool.
From there, I can flash TWRP via fastboot, and once that is done, flash CM, and finally SuperSU.
Have I got all of that right, my friends, or would anyone else do anything differently?
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Hello,
I have to disagree with Vladimir.
Your description of actions is spot-on.
I have done exactly that and i am very happy with CM13 (not CM14.1 i agree on that one )
If you do flash CM, DO NOT flash SuperSU.
Root is build in CM, just activate the Developer Options and in there is the option to activate root.
But i have been using MIUI8 for about 2 weeks. 1 week waiting for unlock (problems with getting the permissions to my account) and later again 1 week to try the latest version.
Both times i had much trouble with apps being killed in the background, because MIUI is much more aggressive in killing background tasks and that is not changeable as far as i could find. That is why the battery seems to last longer. But i have in CM the same battery settings active and CM lasts just as long as the MIUI versions i had.
Also there were a lot of bugs in both versions of MIUI, that made it almost impossible for me to use it for my work.
So i would suggest, follow you own steps and first try the MIUI that you installed and if you have some problems, flash CM13 and try that for a week.
Then make a choice of what you want to use in the future.
About the MIUI flash version: if you have Global now, just upgrade via the app to the developer version. Since you already know that version, just use that one.
Chinese version is only in Chinese and English.
Global has some more languages.
Anyway unlocking bootloader works on China Stable too. Not only on Dev version. But you still need to install the China Stable. You called your girlfriend "missus" therefore I assume you are in UK and you bought your phone from an online reseller. MI5 sold by resellers are coming with a "fake" ROM.
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Hello,
I have to disagree with Vladimir.
Your description of actions is spot-on.
I have done exactly that and i am very happy with CM13 (not CM14.1 i agree on that one )
If you do flash CM, DO NOT flash SuperSU.
Root is build in CM, just activate the Developer Options and in there is the option to activate root.
But i have been using MIUI8 for about 2 weeks. 1 week waiting for unlock (problems with getting the permissions to my account) and later again 1 week to try the latest version.
Both times i had much trouble with apps being killed in the background, because MIUI is much more aggressive in killing background tasks and that is not changeable as far as i could find. That is why the battery seems to last longer. But i have in CM the same battery settings active and CM lasts just as long as the MIUI versions i had.
Also there were a lot of bugs in both versions of MIUI, that made it almost impossible for me to use it for my work.
So i would suggest, follow you own steps and first try the MIUI that you installed and if you have some problems, flash CM13 and try that for a week.
Then make a choice of what you want to use in the future.
About the MIUI flash version: if you have Global now, just upgrade via the app to the developer version. Since you already know that version, just use that one.
Chinese version is only in Chinese and English.
Global has some more languages.
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Memory management it is changeable in MIUI. There's an option for that in Developer Settings. By default it's set on on "middle" and indeed it is quite aggressive. But if you set it on "low" or "off" (my personal choice" and at the same time you turn off battery saving mode which is set on by default your apps won't be killed in the background. When I wake up in the morning (waken by alaram which never been killed by the way) my Need for Speed No limits is always where I left it in the evening.
What theme is that? it looks awesome
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What theme is that? it looks awesome
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Nightshade! Link: http://zhuti.xiaomi.com/detail/378b1e4d-156e-4c98-b483-8f857b3fea09
vladimir_carlan said:
Memory management it is changeable in MIUI. There's an option for that in Developer Settings. By default it's set on on "middle" and indeed it is quite aggressive. But if you set it on "low" or "off" (my personal choice" and at the same time you turn off battery saving mode which is set on by default your apps won't be killed in the background. When I wake up in the morning (waken by alaram which never been killed by the way) my Need for Speed No limits is always where I left it in the evening.
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Hmmm, strange.
I have only seen the option to set the background apps to a max of 5, no Off option.
But whatever the options, i still suggest to everybody to try the MIUI first for a week or so and later try the CM13 or CM14.1 version and make your own choice after that.
If MIUI works for someone, stay on it, else use CMxx
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Hmmm, strange.
I have only seen the option to set the background apps to a max of 5, no Off option.
But whatever the options, i still suggest to everybody to try the MIUI first for a week or so and later try the CM13 or CM14.1 version and make your own choice after that.
If MIUI works for someone, stay on it, else use CMxx
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On a normal situation i would suggest the same. Or even not to make any suggestion at all. In this case I did it because OP mentioned that the phone is going to be a gift for his girlfriend. If I'd gift a phone I'd gift a reliable phone. And as of today even the official CM maintainer don't think CM is reliable. If he'd consider that CM is reliable will have at least one snapshot/milestone and not only nightlies.
About Memory optimisation is a different option in Developer options. Is not part of Background processes limit.
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And as of today even the official CM maintainer don't think CM is reliable. If he'd consider that CM is reliable will have at least one snapshot/milestone and not only nightlies.
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The CM13 version is reliable and also has normal releases, not only Nightly's.
I have been using it since a few months now on my Mi5 (before that alsmost 2 years on the Mi 4i)
I agree on Cm14.1, not stable enough for me, but CM13 is absolutely stable.
I have unknown device error while unlocking bootloader. Anyone with similar issue bypassed it and unlocked BL? Pls help me.
Thanks in advance
plikmuny said:
I have unknown device error while unlocking bootloader. Anyone with similar issue bypassed it and unlocked BL? Pls help me.
Thanks in advance
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Hi again, I just wanted to say a big thank you to everyone who posted in this thread (particularly Vladimir and elot101). I've had to sort a couple of things out on the car which have prevented me from having a play on the phone, and with Christmas so close I decided discretion was the better part of valour, and giving the phone as is to my girlfriend to ensure that my Christmas present to her is not a brick, then prying it off her a few days later and flashing Dev, and pestering Xiaomi for an unlock because an Android phone without root, firewall, X-posed privacy module and titanium back-up may as well be an Apple product as far as I'm concerned.
I give you my word that I will bump this thread and let you know my experiences (good or bad) so that I can contribute back to the sum knowledge of this topic.
If anyone is reading this, something that I suspected but was not sure of that I would like to confirm for someone else like me is that recovery roms end with a .zip extension and fastboot ones have a .tgz if you are having trouble distinguishing them. Elementary perhaps, but it's always nice to have these things confirmed.
Merry Christmas guys. I hope everyone gets whatever they want, even if that's a smile from a loved one.
Best wishes
I bought new Oneplus 3T , could you please explain little bit about the ROMs and all the root stuff.
I had Lg g5 and it seems to be very different.
Enjoy the beauty
The following are my recommendations:
Root - Magisk
Recovery - I prefer blu_spark's TWRP
ROM- If you absolutely must have Oreo, I think Validus 8.0 is the best atm. If you're fine with nougat for now (like me) then paranoid Android works well. Stock OOS is great too, if you want to keep it.
You should be able to figure out how to install the roms and root from the instructions given in the OP of each thread.
Also, I recommend installing the Google Camera app with the slow motion fix for better shots.
Links:
Magisk - https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/magisk/official-magisk-v7-universal-systemless-t3473445
Google Camera - https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-3t/themes/google-camera-t3681879
Slow motion mod for Google Camera - https://forum.xda-developers.com/on.../magisk-hevc-60fps-slomo-gcam-op3t-5-t3666292 (also available in the Magisk repo)
Paranoid Android 7.3.0 - https://forum.xda-developers.com/on...noid-android-7-0-2-aospa-oneplus-3t-t3615015/
Validus 8.0 - https://forum.xda-developers.com/gr...oms-feature-development/rom-tesla-n-t3481561/
Handy thread listing all the current 8.0 roms - https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-3t/how-to/info-list-oreo-roms-kernels-available-3-t3688139/
Have fun with your new phone!
__Michael__ said:
I bought new Oneplus 3T , could you please explain little bit about the ROMs and all the root stuff.
I had Lg g5 and it seems to be very different.
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This questions is really too vague to give a proper response. You want us to explain what exactly about ROMs and "root stuff"? It doesn't indicate to us whether you have modified phones before (custom ROM, and/or root), or what your level of knowledge is. You also don't state exactly what your goal or desire is. Do you want to flash a custom ROM? Do you want to root? Do you want both?
We can start guessing, and providing random info and answers. But it's probably not the best way to go about things. A lot of the info is already posted if you read and search. Everything you want to know has been asked and answered before, probably dozens of time. XDA has always been a wealth of information, for those willing to take the time to look for it.
Every phone has it's own nuances regarding mods like custom ROMs and root. Even different phones from the same manufacturer. Good advice for anyone, is to take at least an hour or so (even if you are experienced with mods - more if you are not) doing some reading of the existing resources, guides, etc. before you try to do anything with the phone. This will give you the best info on the proper way to mod this particular phone, with the most up-to-date methods, etc. Then, if you have specific questions or concerns, come on here and ask. In fact, I always do that research before I even buy the phone. It's part of the fun of a new phone, in my opinion.
I don't personally know anything about the G5. But the 3T is fairly easy to unlock the bootloader (mandatory in order to flash custom recovery, which is needed to flash ROMs and/or root), flash TWRP, then flash custom ROMs and/or root. The following guide is a pretty decent one: https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/...wrp-root-nandroid-efs-backup-and-more.475142/
Just keep in mind that some of the info (like OOS version numbers, etc.) are not completely current. And you should typically use the latest versions TWRP and SuperSU/Magisk. But the general method in the guide is still relevant.
Whether you root by SuperSU or Magisk is a personal choice. Read up on the differences, and make your decision. SuperSU is what most folks already know. But Magisk has some really cool benefits and features over SuperSU. I've personally been preferring Magisk lately. But it's by no means the only choice, or best choice for everyone.
Also, highly recommend you know how to return to stock or recover, if anything goes wrong (good advice before trying to mod any Android device). One way is using a full update zip: https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-3t/how-to/rom-oxygenos-3-5-4-mm-ota-update-t3519074
And as typical, it's highly recommended to make a TWRP backup of your stock ROM, once TWRP is installed, and before you make any mods like custom ROM or root. Which will give you another way to revert to the stock ROM, if you ever have the need.
It's obvious that the OP never dealt in the past with Root etc.
So, the first thing I would advise is start with a good understanding of what Rooting is offering in general, which has nothing to do specifically with 3T.
All devices can be rooted, so the real question is if the OP didn't care to have it in the past, what changed now?
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It's obvious that the OP never dealt in the past with Root etc.
So, the first thing I would advise is start with a good understanding of what Rooting is offering in general, which has nothing to do specifically with 3T.
All devices can be rooted, so the real question is if the OP didn't care to have it in the past, what changed now?
Unleashed by ONEPLUS 3T rooted
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Of course i did root in the past , but my last phone (Lg g5) wasn't rootable , there is some version with no option to open there bootloader , so i wanted to know if maybe i can have the same problem here.
Thank you all for the help , only one more question , i read about many GPS and camera problems , i didnt noticed any of them yet
__Michael__ said:
Of course i did root in the past , but my last phone (Lg g5) wasn't rootable , there is some version with no option to open there bootloader , so i wanted to know if maybe i can have the same problem here.
Thank you all for the help , only one more question , i read about many GPS and camera problems , i didnt noticed any of them yet
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Well, Root doesn't affect GPS or Camera and in any case, these kind of issues shouldn't affect the majority of users.
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__Michael__ said:
Of course i did root in the past
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As I've already touched upon, your original post makes it impossible to tell your level of experience, either way. When asking such questions, it's best to be specific, give details (what you're looking to do, what your experience is, etc.)
__Michael__ said:
only one more question , i read about many GPS and camera problems , i didnt noticed any of them yet
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GPS problem seems mostly on OOS 4.1.7 and 4.5.0 (4.5.1 also, it seems). And not for everyone. At some locations, the AGPS data is outdated, and leading to long waits for the GPS to achieve a lock. So depending on your location, or if your OOS version is not updated, you might not see an issue. Consider yourself lucky, and don't go looking for a problem, if it doesn't exist!
Not sure of the specific camera problem you are referring to. Some folks have complained about blurry photos in low light, with moving subjects. If that is what you are talking about, again if you don't have an issue, don't worry about it. It's not really a "bug" in my opinion. It's in line with the performance of other smartphones. Just not as good at focus (again, specifically in low light with moving subjects) as some other phones, particularly the expensive flagships like Galaxy S8 or iPhone. But you can't expect the 3T to meet all the same technical capabilities of phones that cost about double! Also, the focus in these conditions seems a bit better on the more recent OOS updates. So again, depending on what version you are on, as well as the conditions you are taking photos, and what your expectations are; the camera may not be an issue.
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The following are my recommendations:
Root - Magisk
Recovery - I prefer blu_spark's TWRP
ROM- If you absolutely must have Oreo, I think Validus 8.0 is the best atm. If you're fine with nougat for now (like me) then paranoid Android works well. Stock OOS is great too, if you want to keep it.
You should be able to figure out how to install the roms and root from the instructions given in the OP of each thread.
Also, I recommend installing the Google Camera app with the slow motion fix for better shots.
Links:
Magisk - https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/magisk/official-magisk-v7-universal-systemless-t3473445
Google Camera - https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-3t/themes/google-camera-t3681879
Slow motion mod for Google Camera - https://forum.xda-developers.com/on.../magisk-hevc-60fps-slomo-gcam-op3t-5-t3666292 (also available in the Magisk repo)
Paranoid Android 7.3.0 - https://forum.xda-developers.com/on...noid-android-7-0-2-aospa-oneplus-3t-t3615015/
Validus 8.0 - https://forum.xda-developers.com/gr...oms-feature-development/rom-tesla-n-t3481561/
Handy thread listing all the current 8.0 roms - https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-3t/how-to/info-list-oreo-roms-kernels-available-3-t3688139/
Have fun with your new phone!
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I agree, but with one exception. I'm using rrZenity, and i find it extremely stable on my 3t. Even more so than the official. And possibly even more so than the beautiful Sultanized rr's latest build by DroidFreak32. Plus it comes with fully functional gcam(even slowmo with all settings working perfect), adaway, wakeblock, etc. And I'm using the franco los kernel, but the built-in kernel is really good too. I'm honestly waiting for a stable RR Oreo, or oos, but thks works superbly for now. And a stable Magisk for Oreo. With Resurrection Remix, i just feel like the phone is all mine, really mine, to customize and use however I want. Just my opinion
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Know what TWRP is, a good understanding of how to use it, and what a Nandroid is. I'm no pro, but I hardbricked my phone, as a noob, and it'll scare the sht out of you. There are two brick lifesavers that you must have a pc or laptop to use, and I can provide you links via request.
Now I can flash away with no worries. Not because of the unbrick tools, but twrp will save your a*s over and over again IF you know how to use it.
And donate donate donate. Developers work hard to enable us to have fun and "play" with our phones. And they spend a lot of time doing it. When you download, flash, love a rom or kernel, mod you find...donate. This enables these developers to continue work and make improvements. I find it all fascinating and fun. And xda is probably my new best friend. Ask questions when necessary, but before you do READ READ READ
Sorry @JarJarWinks, this post was not aimed at you. Just wanted to use your quote hoping the kid who op'd it would find it useful.
gFknQ said:
I agree, but with one exception. I'm using rrZenity, and i find it extremely stable on my 3t. Even more so than the official. And possibly even more so than the beautiful Sultanized rr's latest build by DroidFreak32. Plus it comes with fully functional gcam(even slowmo with all settings working perfect), adaway, wakeblock, etc. And I'm using the franco los kernel, but the built-in kernel is really good too. I'm honestly waiting for a stable RR Oreo, or oos, but thks works superbly for now. And a stable Magisk for Oreo. With Resurrection Remix, i just feel like the phone is all mine, really mine, to customize and use however I want. Just my opinion
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If you're saying that rrZenity is better than the sultanized one, then I'll definitely have to try it and of course, franco kernel does give great battery life.
Downloading now! :good:
JarJarWinks said:
If you're saying that rrZenity is better than the sultanized one, then I'll definitely have to try it and of course, franco kernel does give great battery life.
Downloading now! :good:
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I used zenity. Then droidfreak32 put out build that was better, smoother, less issues. Latest builds, I found right the opposite. Zenity 10-01 running so smoothly, Sultanized had a couple of issues for me even though it's newer. Like I said, either one of those guys put out an oreo build I'm on it, cuz I trust both their builds. Hope you enjoy!
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Stock OOS, Magisk, Xposed, GravityBox.
blackknightavalon said:
Stock OOS, Magisk, Xposed, GravityBox.
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If i install that magisk like mentioned there (https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/magisk/official-magisk-v7-universal-systemless-t3473445) , will i get root?
sorry for the question , but i didn't hard about the magisk root before the one plus one .
__Michael__ said:
If i install that magisk like mentioned there (https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/magisk/official-magisk-v7-universal-systemless-t3473445) , will i get root?
sorry for the question , but i didn't hard about the magisk root before the one plus one .
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Magisk has a built-in SU binary, so yes.
congratulations, chief, on the new toy!
Soo....3 weeks ago i was searching for a phone to replace my aging Kirin 650-powered Honor 5C and i was going to buy another Huawei (and also getting ready to be disappointed again by their half-assed software support for mid-tier devices and a GPU processing power equivalent to my Casio Scientific Calculator) until my eyes were locked on a super great deal. A 190-ish USD for a 128 GB Mi A2.
I was so excited back then but after a while i just realized a few things with the latest update (first pie update, im kinda scared installing the second pie after claims of bricking devices lol) which are
1. The camera app is meh
2. It doesnt shoot in RAW (My rooted 5C got it, thanks HassanMirza and other peeps on developing the superb Elite ROM on this device)
3. The portrait mode sucks major ass like it only detects objects thats at the center of the frame (sucks when youre using the rule of thirds)
4. And gosh whats with these white dots when im using manual mode with long shutter speed
I just felt like this superb hardware (this phone snaps superb pics btw) is being bogged down with a meh-than average software. Its not bad but when you found settings like "Picture Quality" and "low, med, high" you'd be thinking like, am i a joke to you xiaomi? Also I like how Huawei's camera app are more technical and in-depth, but i wanted some more "meat" on the processing power (i prefer sd 660 than the kirin 710)
So i was so tempted to install Gcam
In which we will end this rant (sorry) and get back to my topic which is; Should i lose OTA and root this phone? Because idk why i would like to have my warranty (i only do this to out-of-warranty devices only) and this pure android is as good as pure water, or pure whatever that you like, its so good fast and 90 percent bug free. But i also want the features that those custom rom (especially pixel experience UwU) so should I wait for future updates where hopefully Xiaomi will enable Camera2API by default? Or should I succumb on my own impatience-ness and root/unlock/flash my 3 week old Mi A2? What will i gain if i unlock? and what will i lose?
oh also i broke the screen on this baby yesterday, came of from my t-shirt pocket when i was trying to tie my shoes. So um wear cases/Screen protectors guys, gorilla glass 5 is just a marketing gimmick smh
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In which we will end this rant (sorry) and get back to my topic which is; Should i lose OTA and root this phone? Because idk why i would like to have my warranty (i only do this to out-of-warranty devices only) and this pure android is as good as pure water, or pure whatever that you like, its so good fast and 90 percent bug free. But i also want the features that those custom rom (especially pixel experience UwU) so should I wait for future updates where hopefully Xiaomi will enable Camera2API by default? Or should I succumb on my own impatience-ness and root/unlock/flash my 3 week old Mi A2? What will i gain if i unlock? and what will i lose?
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You can Root your phone and have OTA at the same time. As long as you stick to the stock rom and don't make changes to the system partition, OTA will be intact.
The only caveat is, you have to take some extra steps before updating your phone. There is a great guide on Mi A2 Lite's forum for proper Magisk installation with OTA intact.
I have not flashed a ROM on this one so I don't know how is the experience there. I have been running custom ROMs on every device I have owned but the A/B partition and temporary TWRP and all the extra steps are a lot for me. I would rather use Magisk modules to replicate the features I want on the stock ROM itself.
I bought this phone to stick with stock plus all mods I usually do. I was always with custom roms, I thought why not a phone with good specs great camera and regular stock updates. When I bought it pie had just arrived. It lasted 3 4 weeks then back to my beloved pixel experience. The difference was big. PE is way ahead of buggy stock. Ok not the easiest phone right now for twrp and flashing roms with a b slots but with a little reading you can do it... Gcam was huge difference as well both in stock and in PE. So my suggestion is yeah totally you have to go for custom rom. Only to get rid of the dull color of the lcd on stock is enough
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I bought this phone to stick with stock plus all mods I usually do. I was always with custom roms, I thought why not a phone with good specs great camera and regular stock updates. When I bought it pie had just arrived. It lasted 3 4 weeks then back to my beloved pixel experience. The difference was big. PE is way ahead of buggy stock. Ok not the easiest phone right now for twrp and flashing roms with a b slots but with a little reading you can do it... Gcam was huge difference as well both in stock and in PE. So my suggestion is yeah totally you have to go for custom rom. Only to get rid of the dull color of the lcd on stock is enough
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Partitions? Umm care to explain what exactly it is? Like I did heard A/B partitions but I never got a hang of it. Before this I've only dealt with phones that has microsd expansions so I never heard of A/B partitions.
Yeah I'm diving deep into the PE forum right now Hahahah. But when you said it's not the easiest to twrp, what do you mean? I mean what should I expect when I'm going to flash a custom recovery on this phone? (apart from not bricking etc2 usual stuff)
Thanks for your response btw
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Partitions? Umm care to explain what exactly it is? Like I did heard A/B partitions but I never got a hang of it. Before this I've only dealt with phones that has microsd expansions so I never heard of A/B partitions.
Yeah I'm diving deep into the PE forum right now Hahahah. But when you said it's not the easiest to twrp, what do you mean? I mean what should I expect when I'm going to flash a custom recovery on this phone? (apart from not bricking etc2 usual stuff)
Thanks for your response btw
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=78890796
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Sp_Ark said:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=78890796
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Gee
Oh and also I've read about custom recovery not working properly after the Pie update *sigh* idk if it's true.
And it seems that it's easier to mod after switch to 6X rather than in A2.
Well idk I still have warranty on this phone, I think I'll just wait until everything just matures out. Thanks for the info by the wayy
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You dont need to root, you can just boot with a patched boot.img, run the appropriate commands to enable camapi via adb and reboot without tampering with ota relevant partitions
is it better to unlocked bootloader in mi a2 or just keep it locked?
I'm just concerned if phone got bootloop after update and phone's bootloader is not unlocked.
btw if bootloader's unlocked, can we receive ota and install it?
thanks!
dyobetem said:
is it better to unlocked bootloader in mi a2 or just keep it locked?
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IMHO there occurred valuable reason to have "jasmine" with unclocked bootloader: many "loyal" users of "jasmine" got their phones bricked with infamous January patch (10.0.3.0), while those who had unclocked bootloader could easily flash back more-or-less stable 10.0.2.0.
For those that have unlocked bootloader and critical and remain on the stock ROM is your Playstore Play Protect Certification Device is Certified or Uncertified?
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Uncertified
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Thanks. Do you find any restrictions in downloading any sort of apps from playstore?