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I'm looking for advice on the quickest way to charge my phone.
With the stock (1.5MA) charger and cable I get about 1200mA current of charge
With a Mr Phone 2A charger it maxes at 1000mA charge current
With a friend's Galaxy Tab 2A charger it maxes at 1600mA charge current.
(Figures above were obtained using Battery Monitor Widget app)
So firstly I'm confused as to why the higher rated 2A Mr Phone charges less than the stock 1.5mA charger when the Galaxy Tab charger, with the same specs, is much quicker.
Secondly, what is the maximum current the M8 can charge at?
Thirdly, what have guys found to be the quickest way to charge? I was going to source a Tab charger as that seems to be very quick or order this Anker desktop charger: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Family-Sized-Desktop-Technology-External-Batteries/dp/B00EJA28ES
Check here at "Charge Time" and/or here.
The stock mains is Quick Charge 1.5, so the phone would charge faster than a 2A "non-Quick Charge" mains. If you need a faster charger, get a Quick Charge 2.0 compliant charger.
Edit: Don't think Quick Charge 2.0 mains are available yet. Have to wait for their release.
omar302 said:
Check here at "Charge Time" and/or here.
The stock mains is Quick Charge 1.5, so the phone would charge faster than a 2A "non-Quick Charge" mains. If you need a faster charger, get a Quick Charge 2.0 compliant charger.
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Quick Charge 1 is not part of a chargers spec. Only QC2 is.
There's no such thing as chargers that are quick charge 1 or 1.5
And that doesn't explain why a 2A Galaxy Tab charger is quicker than another 2A charger
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One of the big concerns I had with the proprietary Dash Charging system is whether I'd be able to use previously purchased power banks.
I've been testing my OP3 with the RAVPower 26800mAh powerbank along with the Anker USB-C to USB 2.0 cable.
The powerbank is capable of outputting 2.4a, which produces a quick charge on other devices.
On the OP3, I get between 30 and 57% charge / h (measured using the Battery Monitor Widget app), which is acceptable to me.
It's not Dash Charging speed, but it'll work in case you were wondering.
MI Charger
I have a MI 16,000 mAh portable charger with an output of 3.6A. I am getting a pretty awesome speed on 1 min per percent charge. After charge battery drain is lower compared dash charger.
quote from Android central
"For the first time, OnePlus is including a fast charging system on the OnePlus 3. Rather than go with another standard like Qualcomm's Quick Charge, OnePlus made its own "Dash Charge" system. Dash Charge promises a 60% charge on your OnePlus 3 in just 30 minutes, which is just as fast as any other system — the only catch here is you'll have to use the Dash Charger in the box and the included cable.
Your OnePlus 3 will charge just fine off of other chargers — whether they're Quick Charge 3.0, Nexus Rapid Charge or something else — but you just won't get Dash Charge speeds."
I have the oneplus power bank, I'll see how it charges using the cable that came with the phone.
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Royaledevil said:
I have a MI 16,000 mAh portable charger with an output of 3.6A. I am getting a pretty awesome speed on 1 min per percent charge. After charge battery drain is lower compared dash charger.
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Seemed like a good choice as outputting 3.6A would be good enough for me. Would you be able to point me a link where to purchase it from? Many thanks.
are you sure the 3.6a isnt a maximum of all the ports on the bank?
usually if they have multiple ports they say a maximum load for all being X, but I've only ever seen a maximum amperage of 2.4a on a port (few and far between) most 2.1a as stated per port.
even then they charge my OP3 at 1.2a using oneplus's cable, same as my s5 beforehand.
there is a great app on the store called Ampere which tells you your current charging/discharging amps
superbrowndude said:
I have the oneplus power bank, I'll see how it charges using the cable that came with the phone.
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and ?? whats the verdict ?
It's never going to charge faster then 2amp on any ordinary charger or battery pack
If you want fast charging u need to use a dash charger
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Royaledevil said:
I have a MI 16,000 mAh portable charger with an output of 3.6A. I am getting a pretty awesome speed on 1 min per percent charge. After charge battery drain is lower compared dash charger.
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Link to that powerbank please
Framedtrash said:
It's never going to charge faster then 2amp on any ordinary charger or battery pack
If you want fast charging u need to use a dash charger
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Check my post on another thread,
You can use OPPO VOOC Powerbank,
It charge as fast as at least 3.5A
It would not be charging at 3+amp
Unless your using a dash charger your never going to be able to charge over 2amp using any other charger
Doesnt matter what the output of the charger/battery pack is the phone will never take more then 2amp unless its a dash charger
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Hastaloego said:
and ?? whats the verdict ?
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Same question, if he doesn't answer. I'm gonna have to test it out when I get my OnePlus 3 package. On 23rd September. @superbrowndude please give us result
Framedtrash said:
It would not be charging at 3+amp
Unless your using a dash charger your never going to be able to charge over 2amp using any other charger
Doesnt matter what the output of the charger/battery pack is the phone will never take more then 2amp unless its a dash charger
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No offense but this is a flawed theory, did you forget what site you're on? That's what development is for, to boldy go where no one has gone before, so contrary to your belief, I'm sure its possible, can and will happen.
OP3 is only able to charge at 1.5A max with everything except the dash charger and cable, from my tests.
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No offense but this is a flawed theory, did you forget what site you're on? That's what development is for, to boldy go where no one has gone before, so contrary to your belief, I'm sure its possible, can and will happen.
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No it is not a flawed theory. The phone does not have the quick charging components in the phone but instead in the charger and cable. Only VOOC and DASH chargers will quick charge this phone. It's not theory it's fact. Anyways fast charging does deteriorate the battery a bit faster than normal charging so it's not good to use it all the time
crzykiller said:
No it is not a flawed theory. The phone does not have the quick charging components in the phone but instead in the charger and cable. Only VOOC and DASH chargers will quick charge this phone. It's not theory it's fact. Anyways fast charging does deteriorate the battery a bit faster than normal charging so it's not good to use it all the time
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Here's what you wrote: "It would not be charging at 3+amp
Unless your using a dash charger your never going to be able to charge over 2amp using any other charger
Doesnt matter what the output of the charger/battery pack is the phone will never take more then 2amp unless its a dash charger"
You said with conviction that "the phone will 'NEVER' take more [than] 2 amp unless its a dash charger"
The VOOC charger is in fact 'not' a dash charger and it charges above 2 amps. So very simply, your postulation is wrong. I took notice that you quickly changed your stance but forgot how convinced you seemed to be.
All of this leads me to believe that there are other chargers even beyond the VOOc and the Dash that can/will fast charge the One plus 3
What's the easiest way to test what amperage a non-Dash charger is charging at? I'm curious to know if some of my Quick Charge adapters will provide 2.4A. I've only done a very brief test with my QC3 car charger, but it gave me 3% in about 4 minutes. That's about what I was getting on a QC2.0 phone, and that's perfectly acceptable in my books.
BoiBundy said:
Here's what you wrote: "It would not be charging at 3+amp
Unless your using a dash charger your never going to be able to charge over 2amp using any other charger
Doesnt matter what the output of the charger/battery pack is the phone will never take more then 2amp unless its a dash charger"
You said with conviction that "the phone will 'NEVER' take more [than] 2 amp unless its a dash charger"
The VOOC charger is in fact 'not' a dash charger and it charges above 2 amps. So very simply, your postulation is wrong. I took notice that you quickly changed your stance but forgot how convinced you seemed to be.
All of this leads me to believe that there are other chargers even beyond the VOOc and the Dash that can/will fast charge the One plus 3
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Huh? that's my first comment lol and VOOC and DASH are exactly the same technology and have their specific patent. As far as I know, it will only charge with those specific chargers since it is not only the charging brick holding some proprietary charging solution but also the cable. I have a USB-C cable that can withstand over 4A but will not work even when plugged to the DASH charger. Now yes there may be a charger that quick charges this phone but it'd be very unlikely that it does exist since the cable and brick would have to have the exact specifications as the DASH/VOOC chargers.
BoiBundy said:
Here's what you wrote: "It would not be charging at 3+amp
Unless your using a dash charger your never going to be able to charge over 2amp using any other charger
Doesnt matter what the output of the charger/battery pack is the phone will never take more then 2amp unless its a dash charger"
You said with conviction that "the phone will 'NEVER' take more [than] 2 amp unless its a dash charger"
The VOOC charger is in fact 'not' a dash charger and it charges above 2 amps. So very simply, your postulation is wrong. I took notice that you quickly changed your stance but forgot how convinced you seemed to be.
All of this leads me to believe that there are other chargers even beyond the VOOc and the Dash that can/will fast charge the One plus 3
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Haha
As stated VOOC and DASH are the exact same thing, VOOC was created by OPPO and the rebranded by oneplus
No amount of software is going to change a hardware limitation
I guess your going to tell me that a dev is going to release a software patch that restores the headphone jack on a iPhone
Download ampere from the playstore if you want to get a rough idea of what your device is charging at
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fp1707 said:
Same question, if he doesn't answer. I'm gonna have to test it out when I get my OnePlus 3 package. On 23rd September. @superbrowndude please give us result
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Same question. Really interested in the Oneplus Power Bank charging results. Please.
I took a chance for the fun of it and bought a 15 dollar (at the time of writing this) charger from newegg here and it works perfectly. This post took me about 5 minutes to write and i plugged my Mate 8 in a 43% and now it is at 54%. When it plugs in, it even gives me the Fast Charging notification and says so on the lock screen. Highly recommend it, for USA owners only or you will need a converter plug.
I think you need the original hauwei quick charger to get 9v2.4a "quick charge".
Im using a QC 2.0 which should do 9v2a, but do not get "quick charge" message, and using software, only see up to 1.7ah; however with the original charger; I get 2.6ah.
What I also noticed was the with the original charger its goes up to 2.6ah in bursts (from 1.4 to 2.6ah) and not constant, while the QC 2.0 have constant 1.7ah.
Not sure which is faster. Also some cables don't go above 500mah, and some cables do give "quick charge" message on original charger. Ordered USB voltage tester to test more.
Im also looking for source for cheap oem hauwei charger.
HUAWEI HW-059200CHQ with EU plug: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/100...L-Charger-adapter-for-Huawei/32668184405.html
Huawei charger with option for EU or US plug.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Genuine-9V-...hash=item2a6b21d483:m:mKEdY4PKIJdpJ0H_NQVZoCQ
As long it covers the signed agreement between Huawei (FCP) and Qualcomm QC2.0 to support both standards it should work with our mate 8. It must be a 9V2A , be careful some of those sold on AliExpress may have only one voltage of 5v1a and that won't do any fast charging.
ronnie72 said:
Huawei charger with option for EU or US plug.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Genuine-9V-...hash=item2a6b21d483:m:mKEdY4PKIJdpJ0H_NQVZoCQ
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Just got the EU version of this one in, can confirm it's identical to the one that came with my Mate 8 and does proper quick charging.
Amazon Good Replacement Quick Charger
this is compatible for the US..very fast charging..even more so than the original charger the Mate 8 came with..I went from 40% until 67% in just under 15 minutes
so i just got mate 8. as usually everyone need more than one charger. is it true that even a charger with QC 2.0 will not charge our phone as fast as the original charger?
i dont have budget to buy $30 charger - will check ebay later.
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keyid said:
I think you need the original hauwei quick charger to get 9v2.4a "quick charge".
Im using a QC 2.0 which should do 9v2a, but do not get "quick charge" message, and using software, only see up to 1.7ah; however with the original charger; I get 2.6ah.
What I also noticed was the with the original charger its goes up to 2.6ah in bursts (from 1.4 to 2.6ah) and not constant, while the QC 2.0 have constant 1.7ah.
Not sure which is faster. Also some cables don't go above 500mah, and some cables do give "quick charge" message on original charger. Ordered USB voltage tester to test more.
Im also looking for source for cheap oem hauwei charger.
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this is copy pasted from someone else reply regarding my question of why QC 2 charger is slower than original huawei.
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They both have the same power QC 9V x 2A =18W or 12V x 1.5V =18W compared to Huawei 9V 2A =18 Watts
However for the Huawei Mate 8, the only charger that will give you 18W worth of charging power is the Huawei SmartPower charger. Anything else charges it at 10W maximum.
And the Huawei SmartPower charger can only charge other devices at 5V 2A = 10W as well. It only switches up to 9V when it sees a Huawei chip inside the other device.
So it's not 12V 1.5A being 0.5A less than 9V 2.0A - Power is Volts multiplied by Amps.
On that particular phone, if you use a Huawei charger you get 18W. If you use ANY non-Huawei charger, you get 10W.
If the battery capacity is 4000mAh at nominal 3.7V, and the charging circuit is 80% efficient then you need to chuck (4 x 3.7 / 0.8) = 18.5 Watts of power into it to charge it. An 18W charger will do that in just over an hour. A 10W charger will take 1.85 Hours which is almost double the time.
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Keep in mind that fast charging wears out the battery more than regular charging. If you have time, use a normal charger with lower current.
Bah, what doesnt wear out a lithium battery? Fast charge on, we can all get replacement batteries for this thing. theyre cheap anyway.
Hello!
i've noticed that my p9 came with a huawei recharger with 2000mA, so it is supposed to recharge fast.
But it does not. It recharges with an average amps of 600-700.
So i was wondering, maybe it depends on the cable?
Is it enough to buy a new usb-type-C cable usb 3.0 with 2400mA support?
The charger in the box is not a fast charger but a regular 2A and 5V able to fully charge your phone in about 2h20m. For fast charging you need 9V. Refer to this topic for more details. http://forum.xda-developers.com/p9/help/charger-huawei-p9-t3373037
oh, i see. i wasnt thinking about voltage. i thought it was only a mA matter.
thank you!!!
Hi ! I had 2 charger for my Oneplus 3 and cable usb type -c ( I had 3 cable usb type-c ugreen too but no charger)
Can I use my Dash charger with my mi 8 ? I had buy a mi 8 and receive it tomorrow global version with EU charger but don't know wich charger it Qc 3.0 or 4.0 ? And with my oneplus Dash charge is 5v 4amp can work on mi 8 or do buy another charger ? Thank you
ggkameleon said:
Hi ! I had 2 charger for my Oneplus 3 and cable usb type -c ( I had 3 cable usb type-c ugreen too but no charger)
Can I use my Dash charger with my mi 8 ? I had buy a mi 8 and receive it tomorrow global version with EU charger but don't know wich charger it Qc 3.0 or 4.0 ? And with my oneplus Dash charge is 5v 4amp can work on mi 8 or do buy another charger ? Thank you
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it will charge at normal speed. I tried myself with original oneplus car dash charger, no fast charging for Mi8.
lockmunk said:
it will charge at normal speed. I tried myself with original oneplus car dash charger, no fast charging for Mi8.
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Ok thanks. I can use it no mistake but slow. I think buy a qc 3 or 4 it's good. For car I have too dash car and it's so good I loose it. I have car charger qc 2 or 3 I don't know.
Thanks
Rommco05 said:
DASH charger is good for OP, strange for others. Highly not recommended to use DASH on other devices than OP
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Why not?
It is a very good 5V charger, with Xiaomi you can expect up to 2A current, not more. Perfectly safe to charge anything, however not quickest charging option for others.
Rommco05 said:
RIP battery. Do u think it is good charging phone with no original charger? Especially with OP DASH
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Bull*hit....
Dash charging just doesnt work on mi8, normal charge will not cause any damage on any other phone or their battery.
you do not necessarily need a original charger from your phone manufacturer.
The phone negotiate how much power the battery gets not the charger ... the charger slows down the load balance to 2,4A (2,4A*5V=12W)
With a 2,4A output you'll reach ~12W at peak due to cable limitations you'll get 10w
QC 3.0 reach ~ 18 watt on peak with variable voltage and ampere steps. (3,6 - 20v)
Same on Dash Charge, Dash uses variable voltage and ampere steps like QC but doubles the charging lanes.
You can charge your phone with any charger you get, the worst you can get is slower charging speed.
tomsag said:
Why not?
It is a very good 5V charger, with Xiaomi you can expect up to 2A current, not more. .
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Bull****, the original MI 8 charge is QC 3.0 and I'm getting up to 3.3A on it.
It's very fast..
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Flash-User said:
Bull*hit....
Dash charging just doesnt work on mi8, normal charge will not cause any damage on any other phone or their battery.
you do not necessarily need a original charger from your phone manufacturer.
The phone negotiate how much power the battery gets not the charger ... the charger slows down the load balance to 2,4A (2,4A*5V=12W)
With a 2,4A output you'll reach ~12W at peak due to cable limitations you'll get 10w
QC 3.0 reach ~ 18 watt on peak with variable voltage and ampere steps. (3,6 - 20v)
Same on Dash Charge, Dash uses variable voltage and ampere steps like QC but doubles the charging lanes.
You can charge your phone with any charger you get, the worst you can get is slower charging speed.
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What he said.
Rommco05 said:
I see, probably u never heard about optimization, calibration and testing btw and that's isn't about fast or slow charging
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OKay its just your opinion but my opinion is you have no insight in electrical topics or the insight of such an charger.
optimization - the charger doesn't overcharge or use an overvoltage on your phone when its not support their specific fast charge technology it simply slow down to 5v - max. 2.4A, these charging speed will never cause any damage on your phone.
its just simple: an QC phone doesnt use the benefits of SuperCharge technology or Dash Charge and vize versa....
And trust me i've done more calibration and testing in USB charging topics and their different Charging tecnologys as you think (mobile batterys, chargers and so on).
I had several phones and several chargers and compared nearly all of them (QC, FastCharge, VOOC) and there is absolutely nothing dangerous to charge a phone with a QC charger if it is a supercharge phone.
But .... you ever can prove the contrary. I'll never stop learning but you have to tell me some facts.