Should I update? - T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S8 Questions & Answers

I don't want to update in case we get find a way to unlock the bootloader. How easy would it be to downgrade if something came out?

You can't downgrade without tripping knox.

I am still on the march update and used dev options to turn off auto system update.
I still have yet to hear from anyone on the S8 forums since launch if updating is good or not till we have root and eng options....

i been having problems since i updated my s8+ "Keep screen turned off" feature not working,the battery drains more faster and the red tint still persist

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Security Policy Updates notification

Hello everyone,
Recently, I've been getting this notification every couple of days. It says:
Security enhancements for Android protects your device and information by preventing flawed or malicious apps from bypassing security features.
To ensure the most up-to-date protection, allow automatic updates to the security policy by accepting the terms and conditions on the next screen.
I take it if I want a future in rooting my device and unlocking its bootloader, I should continue saying no to this. Has anyone else seen this appear on their device?
spectrumfox said:
Hello everyone,
Recently, I've been getting this notification every couple of days. It says:
Security enhancements for Android protects your device and information by preventing flawed or malicious apps from bypassing security features.
To ensure the most up-to-date protection, allow automatic updates to the security policy by accepting the terms and conditions on the next screen.
I take it if I want a future in rooting my device and unlocking its bootloader, I should continue saying no to this. Has anyone else seen this appear on their device?
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Yup, I've been getting them every few days too. Just keep dismissing them and make sure to not do any firmware updates either. You never know when a root will be available and if these updates will affect it. :good:
Is there no way to prevent this notification from coming back? I keep dismissing it and I have unchecked the box in the security settings too... It's starting to get annoying.
mikefletcher85 said:
Is there no way to prevent this notification from coming back? I keep dismissing it and I have unchecked the box in the security settings too... It's starting to get annoying.
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I don't know of any way to prevent it from coming back. I've just gotten in the habit of declining it every time it comes up.
spectrumfox said:
I don't know of any way to prevent it from coming back. I've just gotten in the habit of declining it every time it comes up.
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I click accept and did not popup since then. Do't see any changes in my phone or anything. I had this on my S4 when i updated to KitKat. I did accept then too.
If you go to Settings -> Security -> Security Policy Updates then you can turn off automatic updates
bitnerd said:
If you go to Settings -> Security -> Security Policy Updates then you can turn off automatic updates
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scroll up, I already tried that
mikefletcher85 said:
I keep dismissing it and I have unchecked the box in the security settings too...
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Update
I want to believe it's something more than it may be(speculation, but possible).
I keep getting more persistent reminders, more than once a day to do this. Samsung may be letting AT&T know that there are known exploits that could be problematic and in turn AT&T may be pushing more aggressively. I would at first get it every reboot and now i get it more than once a day.
At first I was only getting them once a few days. Now I get them every few hours
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I think I'm still on the original security only thing I changed outside of unflagging the checkbox was going to ART havent seen it try at all
I (like OP), just assume they're trying to get us to "pre-approve" their updating of the SELinux policies, patching the OS, or some other hardening features to prevent future rooting (and yeah, giving them the benefit of the doubt, probably fight "real" malware too, like it claims, which I'll take my chances on for now). So, since it seems the only way to turn off the nagging notification (until we root) is to blindly accept whatever it is, I just ignore it.
Well... Except for (obviously) searching here to see if you guys are seeing the same thing.
Sorry to resurrect this thread, but is there any further information on this? I'm currently rooted and started receiving the updates. I declined them a couple times and then decided to uninstall the service with Titanium. I'm afraid that accepting the security update will ruin my current root.
Fyrezerk said:
Sorry to resurrect this thread, but is there any further information on this? I'm currently rooted and started receiving the updates. I declined them a couple times and then decided to uninstall the service with Titanium. I'm afraid that accepting the security update will ruin my current root.
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I've accepted the updates since I got my phone, was able to root and hasn't messed with root access. A rooted phone with out of date security updates seems like a prime target to me.
Freeze security policy update in titanium backup
I had an update forced on my phone but it failed. I know they're trying to block my root access. How can I disable the ota update?
Assassyn said:
I had an update forced on my phone but it failed. I know they're trying to block my root access. How can I disable the ota update?
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To stop all OTA and Security Updates, freeze the following:
AT&T Software Update.
FWUpgrade.
LocalFOTA.
Samsung Push Service.
Security Policy Updates.
There was a way to go into /system/priv-apps to disable it. I did it when we first got our S5's but forget how to. Trying to find the thread for.you guys.
I dug and dug and think I ran across the thread. Instead of posting it I'll tell ya how to fix this. I used root browser to accomplish this, any root browser or explorer should work. Go into /system/priv-apps and look for SPDClient.Apk. I just renamed them. I added .don'tcheck at the end of them and I'm good again. So it would look like this: SPDClient.Apk.Dontcheck. I did the same for the odex file right below it as well just in case. Hope I could help!! Throw me a thanks if I did! You may also do the same thing with the system updater as well. I prefer to rename things instead of disabling them or freezing them. Makes it easier to go back and change it back later if I need to.
did not lose root
I updated the security policies on my rooted and unlocked G900A without any problems. The phone is still rooted and unlocked.
I used to freeze Security Policy updates with TB pro but decided to take a chance on updating them for security reason. I too see a rooted phone with old security policies as a prime target.
I didn't put automatic update on though. I prefer to come here first before applying them just to be on the safe side.

[Q] Remove Update Notification?

So I wasn't getting the lollipop update notification so I went into about phone and clicked on software updates to make sure it was set to on. But it checked for the update and started downloading it and there was no cancel button. So now I have this notification which I can postpone for a maximum of one day.
Is there anyway to remove this notification? I'm probably going to wait out any updates till a 5.1 stock update is released. My phone runs great as is, no reason to update.
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So I wasn't getting the lollipop update notification so I went into about phone and clicked on software updates to make sure it was set to on. But it checked for the update and started downloading it and there was no cancel button. So now I have this notification which I can postpone for a maximum of one day.
Is there anyway to remove this notification? I'm probably going to wait out any updates till a 5.1 stock update is released. My phone runs great as is, no reason to update.
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Try pulling down notification and tap and hold on the notification and go to app info. Does it say Android System or something else?
It says Software update version 3.19.140911. I can't disable the notifications from it or force stop from app info. It is greyed out.
Your device isn't rooted is it?
Nope not rooted.
I guess I could factory reset to try and get rid of it.
if you take to long it just upgrade by it self.
In the past the way I would get around it was to delete the downloaded file from the cache folder and it would fail and go away. You need to be rooted to get to the file though
A quick search and I found this thread so you can try what Iron56 did.
"Okay, I managed to get rid of the notifications by long pressing on the notification to invoke App Info and then Force Close it. It no longer bothers me, but judging from my remaining space in the internal storage, I still have 400mb of OTA downloaded firmware which I can't seem to find using ES File Explorer. Where is it? "
I am not sure if it will work with the newer firmware but you can give it a shot.
Well I can't force close from app info as it is disabled.
I can seem to close the Software Update application from application manager. But the notification stays.
I have the same issue here, I just wanted the Stagefright patch but it wants me to update to Lollipop and I have only heard bad things on the Note4
All it let me do was clear cache
I avoided upgrading for a couple months. Then I'm at my kids summer camp and accidentally somehow hit the update button (as the update screen is what shows when I first unlock the screen). This was a few weeks ago. Now I got a notification for the stagefright one and just took it. Lollipop does have issues but I'm hoping the 5.1.1 update will be out soon and fix it up.
lol just get rooted and freeze it with "Software update" with titanium backup

To update to MM or to not

Well the update finally hit and now I'm looking for anybody who is using it to share their experience(s). I'm scarred by the G3 update to Lollipop which basically broke the phone but that's another story. Does anybody know of a known bug list or anything like that which is being compiled?
Cheers
I like it. Haven't ran into any problems yet. I didn't OTA. I downloaded the firmware, factory reset my phone, then flashed via Odin.
Im running it for 2 days now, rooted and viper4android working. I love it. Battery life is good, Deep sleeps like it should. Very snappy and they made some minor changes to the UI. Just waiting on a fully compatible kernel now
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troby86 said:
I like it. Haven't ran into any problems yet. I didn't OTA. I downloaded the firmware, factory reset my phone, then flashed via Odin.
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I did the same, some say dont but i like change and this one is a good change
I just flashed the stock T-Mobile 6.0 firmware this morning. One change that annoys me is the swipe to unlock screen. I use pattern to unlock my phone. On 6.0 I get this screen before I can input my pattern, so it is an unnecessary extra step to unlock my phone. Very annoying.
I updated about two days ago, so far I like it a lot. My device seems to be running a lot smoother than before. Feels much better to me.
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HKSpeed said:
I just flashed the stock T-Mobile 6.0 firmware this morning. One change that annoys me is the swipe to unlock screen. I use pattern to unlock my phone. On 6.0 I get this screen before I can input my pattern, so it is an unnecessary extra step to unlock my phone. Very annoying.
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Wait till you use fingerprints to unlock the device, they have updated some security policy so they need secondary unlock method along with fingerprint to unlock the phone, that's very very annoying.. thinking of replacing fingerprint lock all together
soumik shah said:
Wait till you use fingerprints to unlock the device, they have updated some security policy so they need secondary unlock method along with fingerprint to unlock the phone, that's very very annoying.. thinking of replacing fingerprint lock all together
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Ummm...no. The secondary unlock is a backup for the fingerprints. You don't have to do both to unlock the phone. Just verified, turned the screen on, and held my finger in place...boom, unlocked.
Just when you restart the phone you need to put the secondary unlock method.
Phone is very fluid and I love it, best update i had in a phone in a long time.
Just 1 thing and I bet you'll like it.
No more laggy.
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Wow first time I've seen a SW push on a phone that everybody seems to be pretty satisfied with lol. I took the plunge this morning and noticed the secondary password for fingerprints as well. However I know that's always been there as a back up and for whatever reason it had to be reset on the first boot but it's gone away now and is only a back up when it doesn't recognize my fingerprint more than three times. So far so good, I'm curious to see if there is any improvement on the battery life or not.
Thanks for the info everybody!
After I updated my phone to 6.0.1, I did a factory reset. I couldn't be happier. I use fingerprint unlock and have my phone encrypted. Since the release (4/11), I haven't had any issues with battery or performance. I did notice that the auto-brightness seems to be more aggressive than Lollipop. One issue I didn't like was that when I used All-In-One-Gesture to enable double-tap to sleep, I had to manually type my password every time to unlock the phone. I think because of my security settings (allowing an app to have permission to lock the screen), I wasn't able to fingerprint unlock unless I manually turned off the screen using the power button. Otherwise, I don't mind entering a long password every time I turn on the phone.
In standby, my phone would drain 15%-20% over 8 hours each night while I slept. With MM, my phone drains less than 5% each night now.
Anyone having problems with LED notifcations not working? It works when I'm charging, but not any other time. It is turned on in settings>display. I also made sure notifications settings for my apps were not blocked. Weird. So far I'm unimpressed by MM. Alot of things don't work right, like LED notifications The battery improvement is negligible. I was getting 5% battery loss overnight anyway. I didn't do a factory reset before/after upgrading. Maybe that will fix my problems.
Update: I fixed the LED notification by doing a factory reset in recovery. Now I have to reinstall everything . My phone is stock by the way.
it works pretty good all around ui is smooth it has a refined feel compared to the older updates
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Battery life has been MUCH better for me.
Rooted+ Xposed. I even disabled the location wakelock module I HAD to use in LP, and it's still much better. SOT isn't really effected much, but screen off + listening to streaming music has more than halves battery usage for me, along with idle time.
Tthe phone is much smoother, and I have not experienced any lagging (have animations turned off, though). Plus, finger print unlock is tons faster. LP always lagged hard for me there, now it's almost as fast as the wife's 6s+.
I got a small issue with unlock function.
If I made screen of my hard button, I could use fingerprint to unlock the screen, but if I used 3rd-app to make screen off, I need to use back up method - PIN to unlock the screen.
Does anyone face the same issue?
Received the OTA update. I'm on stock.
Battery life is *slightly* better, but it's nothing to write home about.
The auto-brightness has been updated, and I feel it's not for the better. It seems to dim/brighten aggressively, and/or not work at all. It's been irritating.
trungctu said:
I got a small issue with unlock function.
If I made screen of my hard button, I could use fingerprint to unlock the screen, but if I used 3rd-app to make screen off, I need to use back up method - PIN to unlock the screen.
Does anyone face the same issue?
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I have that problem too. I forget which security setting it is, but basically it requires you to enter your password whenever an app locks the screen. I don't think there is any way around it. I uninstalled all my apps that lock the screen, except greenify, for that reason.
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I have that problem too. I forget which security setting it is, but basically it requires you to enter your password whenever an app locks the screen. I don't think there is any way around it. I uninstalled all my apps that lock the screen, except greenify, for that reason.
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Me too... back to stock "easy touch" and wait for next update...
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Great update
If you stick with the stock marshmallow update I think you will be happy. You are able to root it also without a problem.
If you make sure NFC and WiFi are turned off (When you're not using them) I personally have seen better battery usage than Lollipop.
I'm running the stock rooted marshmallow and it really is a beautiful update with a bunch of enhanced features. I would recommend.
As a bonus, it also gives your phone a radio update (which allows it to better contact T-mobile's towers).
If you really want a boost in speed, you should lookup changing your APN settings to force your phone into IPv4, because currently your phone will default to IPv6 which (at least for me) is a tad slower than IPv4.
Good luck and have fun messing around with the new update
HKSpeed said:
I just flashed the stock T-Mobile 6.0 firmware this morning. One change that annoys me is the swipe to unlock screen. I use pattern to unlock my phone. On 6.0 I get this screen before I can input my pattern, so it is an unnecessary extra step to unlock my phone. Very annoying.
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yeah I'm with you on that.
Another thing that is annoying me, and maybe there is a setting to turn this off (if so please tell me as I've not yet found or really looked into it yet)...
It used to be that when I opened a link it would prompt me which browser or or program I wanted it to open with. I actually like being prompted each time because sometimes I want this a bit more secure and so would open with Orweb vs. Google.
Now it seems that once I select and option it becomes the default option until I go in and change it.
Otherwise, I'm enjoying it. I'm rooted running xposed and viper etc.
I really do want my gradient status bar back though...

Good Lock frequently disables itself on Pie

A friend of mine installed Good Lock on his Note 9 running Pie. Every week or so, Good Lock modules stop running and have to be toggled off and on to get them working again. He checked to make sure all updates were installed. When it stops working, the modules still show they're "ON". I checked the battery usage and there's no indication it's putting Good Lock to sleep. Is there a possibility that his installed theme, from the Samsung Store, is conflicting somehow? Does anyone else have this issue or a solution?
The only times that's ever happened to me on Oreo was when I'd get a system update, or Good lock updated, but it certainly wasn't a regular occurrence.

Unlocked N9 Android 10 / One UI 2.0 BETA Upgrade

Was shocked to see the notification this morning, jumped in with the update before leaving for work and seems fine so far. Navigation Bar customization lost for now, Nav Star under Good Lock says they're working on an update so hopefully that takes care of things. Haven't had much time to explore yet but initially phone is much snappier, even after considering it restarts automatically once a week.
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Was shocked to see the notification this morning, jumped in with the update before leaving for work and seems fine so far. Navigation Bar customization lost for now, Nav Star under Good Lock says they're working on an update so hopefully that takes care of things. Haven't had much time to explore yet but initially phone is much snappier, even after considering it restarts automatically once a week.
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What version software were you on before?
Good question, don't really see an update Log. Last update was November so I assume it was SJ1. Updates have been running around 45 to 60 days on this phone.
I will say, and unfortunately not sure this option was around on Pie, but looked up Android 10 tips and enabled Adaptive Power Saving under Device Care / Battery / Power Mode and at least for the first day it seems battery draw has improved. Time will tell.
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I will say, and unfortunately not sure this option was around on Pie, but looked up Android 10 tips and enabled Adaptive Power Saving under Device Care / Battery / Power Mode and at least for the first day it seems battery draw has improved. Time will tell.
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Can you pull the update zip and post it?
JLFitzpatrick said:
Was shocked to see the notification this morning, jumped in with the update before leaving for work and seems fine so far. Navigation Bar customization lost for now, Nav Star under Good Lock says they're working on an update so hopefully that takes care of things. Haven't had much time to explore yet but initially phone is much snappier, even after considering it restarts automatically once a week.
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Were you on a US or EU firmware?
Should be on US Firmware. Not sure what you mean by update ZIP, but see attached.
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Should be on US Firmware. Not sure what you mean by update ZIP, but see attached.
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You're using an N960U1 or an N960U but it has Unlocked US firmware on it, which just makes it an N960U1. Did you register for the beta on the Samsung Members app? Or can you tell us what your previous firmware was before you got Android 10?
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You're using an N960U1 or an N960U but it has Unlocked US firmware on it, which just makes it an N960U1. Did you register for the beta on the Samsung Members app? Or can you tell us what your previous firmware was before you got Android 10?
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I see in all these post about the beta, you seem to never get a straight answer for that :fingers-crossed: maybe someone will actually respond instead of just asking questions
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I see in all these post about the beta, you seem to never get a straight answer for that :fingers-crossed: maybe someone will actually respond instead of just asking questions
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Yeah it's kind of.....odd.??* I don't even want the beta. I just want to know what the banking schemes are for the firmware itself. It'll give us a hint IF Samsung is leaving towards a bootloader update. Which will help tell us they fixed something nasty from the current bootloader. ?
I think I did register for the Beta so that makes sense, went to the Members Center looking for something else and tapped the icon for it, never got confirmation of anything though. The upgrade notification didn't state it was Beta either. Based on dates per Samsung Phone was probably on SJ1 Pie prior to this. I assumed this was the December 1 patch when it first popped up.
Notification popped up today when opening Settings that this is the Beta, a fact not communicated by Samsung during the update. Went into Settings upon noticing the Phone which was good all weekend today at work without using it started getting hot and draining the battery. Shut it down wiped partition cache a during startup then went into Battery / App Usage and found Camera, which had not been open since last night had used 62.7% of Battery over the past 6:43 hours. Toggled on 'Put App to sleep when not in use' for Camera App and will keep an eye on this along with everything else. All other App Usage seems to be normal. Charging phone now and it has cooled down.
Realize this was the Google Camera acting up that was installed from a link on this forum and mapped to activate by double tapping the Bixby button through BxActions (Samsung Camera activates by double tapping Power Button). Explains why it was acting up after the update. I like the G-Cam night mode and have been comparing the results to the S-Cam night mode including a few shots of Christmas decorations last night.
Updated this Thread Title to reflect what this upgrade actually is. Very happy with this upgrade so far, even though it wasn't labeled as the Beta version in the notification when it first popped up. Only real glitch I've noticed besides the G-Cam battery drain episode which is no fault of Samsung being a sideloaded App, is the settings security page. Phone is setup to require security log on when Settings is opened, currently the security pattern screen flashes then goes to Settings menu without requiring login fingerprint or pattern. Lost Navigation Bar customization I assume will be recovered when NavStar is updated, there is a notification in LockStar that let's you know they're working on an update.
Received another Beta update today.
Another Beta is pending, brings Security Patch up to January 1st, will install tonight.

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