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I have a LG G2 and I am no longer under contract to Verizon, so I just pay VZW month to month for my service.
My questions here are:
Can I switched to Walmarts Straight Talk with my G2?
Would I still have the same coverage (4G) area on Straight Talk?
Thank you
No one has any info on this?
hd-renegade said:
No one has any info on this?
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AFAIK you have to buy one of their phones to use CDMA networks. Only the gsm carriers have the bring your own phone on ST.
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AFAIK you have to buy one of their phones to use CDMA networks. Only the gsm carriers have the bring your own phone on ST.
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Isn't the G2 CDMA and GSM capible??
Yes it is.
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There are people who wrote a method to flash a sprint epic to straight talk Verizon towers that works on sprint Note 2s. One of the intermediate steps flashes a vzw phone. CDMA workshop and a little bit of work can make it happen.
hd-renegade said:
I have a LG G2 and I am no longer under contract to Verizon, so I just pay VZW month to month for my service.
My questions here are:
Can I switched to Walmarts Straight Talk with my G2?
Would I still have the same coverage (4G) area on Straight Talk?
Thank you
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I looked into this a while back, since it sounded so wonderful in the commercials. I don't think Straight Talk offers any 4G service, but I could be wrong. It may be available on their GSM towers. Either way, if you follow the link below for "bring your own phone," then click on CMDA, the next page states BYOP does not work on 4G phones.
http://straighttalkbyop.com/
I seem to remember them selling a 3G Samsung S3 when I was looking into their service. That kind of put me off of them.
zandroid said:
I looked into this a while back, since it sounded so wonderful in the commercials. I don't think Straight Talk offers any 4G service, but I could be wrong. It may be available on their GSM towers. Either way, if you follow the link below for "bring your own phone," then click on CMDA, the next page states BYOP does not work on 4G phones.
http://straighttalkbyop.com/
I seem to remember them selling a 3G Samsung S3 when I was looking into their service. That kind of put me off of them.
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Thank you, I sort of figured maybe it was to good to be true.
Straight talk=3g only and vzw network only. No roaming networks.
trollarc said:
Straight talk=3g only and vzw network only. No roaming networks.
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Another thank you on good info for this.
trollarc said:
Straight talk=3g only and vzw network only. No roaming networks.
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You can get a LTE sim with ATT now on ST. Don't know if you can make it work in a VZW g2, but it should work fine in the ATT g2.
Okay, correction to my post. If you want vzw towers on st you have to have only vzw towers if you have a CDMA only phone. You can fflash to their sprint based service and only have sprint service (probably, not sure if they have donors to hack). Their sim networks are Att/T-Mobile. I haven't heard of anybody flashing to the st vzw towers with a vzw sim equipped phone and using one of their sims. That might be useful if you were in a place that regularly has simbased services and occasionally went to the boonies- you could just switch which service was active assuming you get better speed or home coverage on the sim service. Also useful for international (read: not north American) roaming.
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I realize that this is an old thread but I just switched to Straight Talk from Verizon and thought I would share this. After the switch (I kept my number from Verizon) my phone still shows Verizon Wireless on the lock screen, still says VZWInternet for my APN settings and still shows that I am getting 4GLTE. I am actually on Straight Talk service though as I have my SIM from ST in my phone. I didnt have to use an ATT sim or anything. I registered CDMA on the Straight Talk site before I switched my phone number over. Hope this is useful to anyone thinking about switching over.
Verizon is a straighttalk's carrier so basically your phone is still working under Verizon wireless.
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Just to shed a little light on this, while Straight Talk might operate on VZW towers in some regions, VZW does not authorize straight talk to use phones like the LG G2. One of the powers of CDMA is they can pre-approve select serial numbers for certain carriers, thus VZW knows every single phone ever manufactured for their network and can selectively choose which can be authorized to connect. Thats why you have to go through all the crazy phone cloning to get CDMA phones to look like authorized devices.
Anyway, ST operates on both CDMA and GSM in certain markets. When operating on GSM they utilize AT&T. The LG G2 can only connect to ST if you are using the native unlocked GSM mode. Thats right, all Verizon LG G2 phones are GSM unlocked. So if Straight Talk offers a GSM service through ATT in your area then you can use Straight Talk. If you are trying to connect to Straight Talk's CDMA service (verizon towers) it will not work. Of course you can also use your G2 on any GSM carrier, so T-mobile is also a good player here as they offer some pretty attractive plans, namely their $30/month 5GB/100minute plan. If you have a google voice number you can use Hangouts to place calls that count against data and not minutes, thus you have an Unlimited voice plan with 5GB data for $30/month.
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Just to shed a little light on this, while Straight Talk might operate on VZW towers in some regions, VZW does not authorize straight talk to use phones like the LG G2. One of the powers of CDMA is they can pre-approve select serial numbers for certain carriers, thus VZW knows every single phone ever manufactured for their network and can selectively choose which can be authorized to connect. Thats why you have to go through all the crazy phone cloning to get CDMA phones to look like authorized devices.
Anyway, ST operates on both CDMA and GSM in certain markets. When operating on GSM they utilize AT&T. The LG G2 can only connect to ST if you are using the native unlocked GSM mode. Thats right, all Verizon LG G2 phones are GSM unlocked. So if Straight Talk offers a GSM service through ATT in your area then you can use Straight Talk. If you are trying to connect to Straight Talk's CDMA service (verizon towers) it will not work. Of course you can also use your G2 on any GSM carrier, so T-mobile is also a good player here as they offer some pretty attractive plans, namely their $30/month 5GB/100minute plan. If you have a google voice number you can use Hangouts to place calls that count against data and not minutes, thus you have an Unlimited voice plan with 5GB data for $30/month.
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Er, no. "Phone cloning" was necessary for using devices on older 3G-only MVNOs, but it's no longer the case now that Verizon uses SIM cards. (as do many Verizon MVNOs, like Straight Talk, Pageplus, etc)
As long as the G2 is in good standing (IMEI/ESN not blacklisted due to non-payment/stolen phone/etc), you can use it on ST. All you need to do is request a Verizon SIM from ST CS, pop it in the phone, and go. The $45 for Unlimited/Unlimited/5GB BYOP plan works fine on Verizon. Hell, as long as you have an activated SIM card, you can even use non-Verizon-approved LTE devices on a Verizon plan as long as it has the necessary LTE bands.
Why are you reviving an old, dead topic with outdated information?
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Er, no. "Phone cloning" was necessary for using devices on older 3G-only MVNOs, but it's no longer the case now that Verizon uses SIM cards. (as do many Verizon MVNOs, like Straight Talk, Pageplus, etc)
As long as the G2 is in good standing (IMEI/ESN not blacklisted due to non-payment/stolen phone/etc), you can use it on ST. All you need to do is request a Verizon SIM from ST CS, pop it in the phone, and go. The $45 for Unlimited/Unlimited/5GB BYOP plan works fine on Verizon. Hell, as long as you have an activated SIM card, you can even use non-Verizon-approved LTE devices on a Verizon plan as long as it has the necessary LTE bands.
Why are you reviving an old, dead topic with outdated information?
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Thanks for the info, I was misinformed. Since I just canceled with Verizon and ate the ETF penalty, I still have my Verizon 4G sim. Can I use that with ST? Or do I still need to order an official ST branded sim to use with Verizon?
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Thanks for the info, I was misinformed. Since I just canceled with Verizon and ate the ETF penalty, I still have my Verizon 4G sim. Can I use that with ST? Or do I still need to order an official ST branded sim to use with Verizon?
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ST will give you a SIM when you sign up, but be sure that it's for the Verizon network.
If you're ordering over the phone, just tell the rep that you want it for Verizon.
If you're doing it in store, make sure you're getting the ST Activation Kit for Verizon. Apparently not all Walmarts carry the ST Verizon kit, so you might have to order over the phone/on ST's website.
Once you get it, just pop it in your Verizon G2 and you're good to go.
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ST will give you a SIM when you sign up, but be sure that it's for the Verizon network.
If you're ordering over the phone, just tell the rep that you want it for Verizon.
If you're doing it in store, make sure you're getting the ST Activation Kit for Verizon. Apparently not all Walmarts carry the ST Verizon kit, so you might have to order over the phone/on ST's website.
Once you get it, just pop it in your Verizon G2 and you're good to go.
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What seems so unreal about this is that I'm paying for Verizon service for less than Verizon charges. How the hell does that work for them? Does Verizon just make most of their money roping people into contracts for new phone subsidies? Do they severely deprioritize non VZW customers to the point that ST might be miserable on their network?
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What seems so unreal about this is that I'm paying for Verizon service for less than Verizon charges. How the hell does that work for them? Does Verizon just make most of their money roping people into contracts for new phone subsidies? Do they severely deprioritize non VZW customers to the point that ST might be miserable on their network?
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There are a few of catches to ST's service, which apply to other Verizon MVNOs as well:
1) Verizon postpaid has roaming on 3rd party networks, while prepaid and MVNOs are limited to Verizon's native network only.
2) Verizon MVNOs have lower priority than Verizon-proper. On congested towers, ST and other MVNOs will have the slowest speeds.
3) Similar to the above, all Verizon MVNOs are capped at 5mbps LTE speeds. So not only do ST/MVNOs have the lowest priority, but even on uncongested towers their speeds are limited.
On the plus side, you get Verizon coverage, the largest data bucket at the $45 price point (5GB), and no additional charges/suspended data after you use your allotment (ST throttles to 64kbps after).
If priority and speeds are important, Verizon Prepaid has unlimited talk+text+2GB data (suspended after unless you pay for more) for $45. Higher priority than MVNOs and no speed restrictions.
I was wondering if it was possible to unlock a Tmobile g2 for use on verizon? Also could i do the same for a ATT G2 for use on verizon?
Thanks yall!
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I was wondering if it was possible to unlock a Tmobile g2 for use on verizon? Also could i do the same for a ATT G2 for use on verizon?
Thanks yall!
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Nope. Verizon uses different technology.... LTE is the ONLY reason Verizon phones use a sim card. You could do the Oppisite though, you can use an Verizon G2 on T-Mobile or AT&T but not the other way around.
It's already factory unlocked.
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I was wondering if it was possible to unlock a Tmobile g2 for use on verizon? Also could i do the same for a ATT G2 for use on verizon?
Thanks yall!
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No the Tmobile version does not have CDMA radio which is what Verizon and Sprint use for 3g data and calls.
The LG G2 Verizon model (vs980) comes fully gsm unlocked on 3g, 1x support.(CMDA unlocked LTE,3G,1x. I believe:good I have seen multiple people have their lg g2 connected to the T-Mobile network no problem.
Someone correct me if my information is incorrect.
Thank you.
No. It's impossible. Not just bc the radio technology is different, (gsm/cdma) Even if the bands were completely compatible, verizon would not allow it on their network. Only verizon certified phones will Work. Meaning they have to be verizon branded
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No. It's impossible. Not just bc the radio technology is different, (gsm/cdma) Even if the bands were completely compatible, verizon would not allow it on their network. Only verizon certified phones will Work. Meaning they have to be verizon branded
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You CAN use GSM networks on the verizon G2, the phone radio fully supports HSPA+. You will need to change it in the hidden cellular settings pane, I just used an app called "Advanced Signal Status" and scrolled down until there was a button called "Additional Info" from there I went to "Phone Information" and you can set the preferred network type. Set it to GSM/UMTS. if you are running on stock, it's Settings > Tethering & network > Mobile networks > System and then select it. You will also need to add the APNs.
Verizon cannot lock down their phones to one network according to the FCC Network Access Regulations.
"(e) Handset locking prohibited. No licensee may disable features on handsets it provides to customers, to the extent such features are compliant with the licensee's standards pursuant to paragraph (b) of this section, nor configure handsets it provides to prohibit use of such handsets on other providers' networks."
Verizon can block certain handsets from being used on their network, but cannot block their branded phones from going on a different network if the phone's hardware supports it.
If it were impossible, how are many people connecting to and using GSM networks on the Verizon G2 (VS980)?!
Even though Verizon is a evil carrier, they cannot prevent this.
Do research before posting.
Thank you,
Stephen
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You CAN use GSM networks on the verizon G2, the phone radio fully supports HSPA+. You will need to change it in the hidden cellular settings pane, I just used an app called "Advanced Signal Status" and scrolled down until there was a button called "Additional Info" from there I went to "Phone Information" and you can set the preferred network type. Set it to GSM/UMTS. if you are running on stock, it's Settings > Tethering & network > Mobile networks > System and then select it. You will also need to add the APNs.
Verizon cannot lock down their phones to one network according to the FCC Network Access Regulations.
"(e) Handset locking prohibited. No licensee may disable features on handsets it provides to customers, to the extent such features are compliant with the licensee's standards pursuant to paragraph (b) of this section, nor configure handsets it provides to prohibit use of such handsets on other providers' networks."
Verizon can block certain handsets from being used on their network, but cannot block their branded phones from going on a different network if the phone's hardware supports it.
If it were impossible, how are many people connecting to and using GSM networks on the Verizon G2 (VS980)?!
Even though Verizon is a evil carrier, they cannot prevent this.
Do research before posting.
Thank you,
Stephen
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stephen, thanks for such a nice thorough post, but YOU need to reread my post or actually reread the ORIGINAL post as well. the question is , can you take another carriers phone and use it on verizon, not can you take a verizon phone and use it on GSM, we all know you can do that . LOL LOL!! . , YOU CANNOT use gsm phones or any phone what so ever on verizon unless it is a verizon branded phone, again , (like i said in my original post) REGARDLESS if its compatible with their network. thanks for rereading...and have a nice day
oh... and youre right, verizon can not lock down their phones, (again we all know that,) but they can lock down who, and what accesses THEIR network. please do more research before posting "information" lol
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stephen, thanks for such a nice thorough post, but YOU need to reread my post or actually reread the ORIGINAL post as well. the question is , can you take another carriers phone and use it on verizon, not can you take a verizon phone and use it on GSM, we all know you can do that . LOL LOL!! . , YOU CANNOT use gsm phones or any phone what so ever on verizon unless it is a verizon branded phone, again , (like i said in my original post) REGARDLESS if its compatible with their network. thanks for rereading...and have a nice day
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I will have to apologize completely for this, I AM SORRY. I had just woken up, and was groggy, but you were right,
I AM TOO FULL OF MYSELF
Have a wonderful day!
This is why I recommend buying the Verizon model. Not only do you get additional radios to use on Verizon or any GSM network, it is unlocked out of the box and has Qi Wireless Charging unlike any of the other variants. Moving from ROM to ROM is no biggie either. I've seen people flashing Tmobile Roms on the Verizon G2.
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Hi guys.. Hoping much to get your expert opinion.. I live outside USA and got a Verizon G2 as a gift. When I turned on the phone it asked to select the language which then further proceeds to set up but since it cannot connect to Verizon server , it just keeps searching and then routes to emergency calls only.mode.. Tried to insert the local Sim but its not recognizing it.
I have seen you guys talking about having it factory unlocked out of the box but this doesn't .. Please help the brother out
PS. I am a layman so kindly use digestible method.
asnawaz23 said:
Hi guys.. Hoping much to get your expert opinion.. I live outside USA and got a Verizon G2 as a gift. When I turned on the phone it asked to select the language which then further proceeds to set up but since it cannot connect to Verizon server , it just keeps searching and then routes to emergency calls only.mode.. Tried to insert the local Sim but its not recognizing it.
I have seen you guys talking about having it factory unlocked out of the box but this doesn't .. Please help the brother out
PS. I am a layman so kindly use digestible method.
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I think you have to go into your network settings and change your API's to match your network you intend to use. That carrier should supply those if you call them.
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It works for me i lived in asia. Cdma and gsm both work. But for cdma i have to inject the number and i also plug the gsm sim card incase there is no signal i can easly switch to gsm provider.
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Hi guys i plan on buying a ATT Moto X XT-1058 and unlocking it and am wondering what kind of service i will get on tmobile. I saw that att has all the same 4g bands as the tmobile moto x but the tmobile has the 1700 3G band that the att model doesnt. Will i get LTE speeds on tmobile with the ATT Moto x
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Hi guys i plan on buying a ATT Moto X XT-1058 and unlocking it and am wondering what kind of service i will get on tmobile. I saw that att has all the same 4g bands as the tmobile moto x but the tmobile has the 1700 3G band that the att model doesnt. Will i get LTE speeds on tmobile with the ATT Moto x
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You should get LTE, but you won't get HSPA/HSPA+ unless you are in a "re-farmed area" using UTMS on 1900mhz.
Sounds like you have already done the research....so not really sure what you are asking...
You can see if you are in a re-farmed area by searching google for "t-mobile network optimization" - if you area is "optimized" you are in a refarmed area.
The big drawback is that *IF no T-mobile LTE is available, AND you aren't in a re-farmed area* you will only get 2G (EDGE) speeds. YUCK!
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You should get LTE, but you won't get HSPA/HSPA+ unless you are in a "re-farmed area" using UTMS on 1900mhz.
Sounds like you have already done the research....so not really sure what you are asking...
You can see if you are in a re-farmed area by searching google for "t-mobile network optimization" - if you area is "optimized" you are in a refarmed area.
The big drawback is that *IF no T-mobile LTE is available, AND you aren't in a re-farmed area* you will only get 2G (EDGE) speeds. YUCK!
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alright so i should get LTE and i did some research but just wanted to make sure so i dont get screwed over. I live in Leesburg va which is about 30 minutes from DC and DC is one of the refarmed areas so should i get the HSPA+ to?
ultrairon said:
alright so i should get LTE and i did some research but just wanted to make sure so i dont get screwed over. I live in Leesburg va which is about 30 minutes from DC and DC is one of the refarmed areas so should i get the HSPA+ to?
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if T Mobile's website says that your area has completed network optimization then yes. You should be good for both LTE and HSPA+. Remember that HSPA is only a fallback for when LTE is unavailable... :good:
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samwathegreat said:
if T Mobile's website says that your area has completed network optimization then yes. You should be good for both LTE and HSPA+. Remember that HSPA is only a fallback for when LTE is unavailable... :good:
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Thanks for your help. So ill be good for LTE most of the time but when LTE is unavaiable then HSPA will be the fallback if im in a refarmed area if im not then ill get 2G. That sounds good for me i dont really leave the DC area much. I hit thanks
ultrairon said:
Thanks for your help. So ill be good for LTE most of the time but when LTE is unavaiable then HSPA will be the fallback if im in a refarmed area if im not then ill get 2G. That sounds good for me i dont really leave the DC area much. I hit thanks
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One thing to keep in mind is that if you buy the AT&T branded XT1058 it is the ONLY variant that cannot have the bootloader unlocked, which means you can't flash the T-Mobile ROM to get things like visual voicemail working as they should..
I actually ended up soft bricking one of my XT1058 because I tried to flash T-Mob version, am now waiting on official 4.4.4 FW to be released so I can get that fixed.
In retrospect, I'd have bought an XT1053 instead or a Rogers-branded XT1058 - i didn't do my research and hence got suckered into the lower prices of the ATT ones on eBay.. just my 2 cents..
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One thing to keep in mind is that if you buy the AT&T branded XT1058 it is the ONLY variant that cannot have the bootloader unlocked, which means you can't flash the T-Mobile ROM to get things like visual voicemail working as they should..
I actually ended up soft bricking one of my XT1058 because I tried to flash T-Mob version, am now waiting on official 4.4.4 FW to be released so I can get that fixed.
In retrospect, I'd have bought an XT1053 instead or a Rogers-branded XT1058 - i didn't do my research and hence got suckered into the lower prices of the ATT ones on eBay.. just my 2 cents..
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Alright thanks but I can still root it and flash paranoid android right?
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Alright thanks but I can still root it and flash paranoid android right?
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Um....no.
In your original post, you said you intended to "unlock" it - I **THOUGHT** you meant "SIM-UNLOCK" it.
Not only is the AT&T Moto X **BOOTLOADER-LOCKED**, but it is also **SIM-LOCKED** at AT&T.
The ONLY way to use it on T-Mobile is to SIM-UNLOCK it - you do this by obtaining an unlock code from an online unlock code seller.
Now there is only ONE way to unlock the bootloader to be able to flash other ROMS. You have to pay $45 to the "China Middleman" to get a bootloader unlock code. He somehow has access do Motorola's database. He doesn't have all of the codes, so it might not be possible to BOOTLOADER-UNLOCK at all. There is no other way. Zero.
Considering that you are going to have to pay between $10 and $30 to get a SIM-UNLOCK code, **AND** another $45 to get a BOOTLOADER-UNLOCK code (assuming you want to be able to root and flash custom ROMS).....you might want to give up on this idea of using an AT&T Moto X, and instead, buy the actual T-MOBILE Moto X.
I really thought you already understood all of this. Your OP stating that you intended to unlock it to use it on T-Mobile gave me the impression that you KNEW it was sim-locked to AT&T.
Hope this answers all of your questions.
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Um....no.
In your original post, you said you intended to "unlock" it - I **THOUGHT** you meant "SIM-UNLOCK" it.
Not only is the AT&T Moto X **BOOTLOADER-LOCKED**, but it is also **SIM-LOCKED** at AT&T.
The ONLY way to use it on T-Mobile is to SIM-UNLOCK it - you do this by obtaining an unlock code from an online unlock code seller.
Now there is only ONE way to unlock the bootloader to be able to flash other ROMS. You have to pay $45 to the "China Middleman" to get a bootloader unlock code. He somehow has access do Motorola's database. He doesn't have all of the codes, so it might not be possible to BOOTLOADER-UNLOCK at all. There is no other way. Zero.
Considering that you are going to have to pay between $10 and $30 to get a SIM-UNLOCK code, **AND** another $45 to get a BOOTLOADER-UNLOCK code (assuming you want to be able to root and flash custom ROMS).....you might want to give up on this idea of using an AT&T Moto X, and instead, buy the actual T-MOBILE Moto X.
I really thought you already understood all of this. Your OP stating that you intended to unlock it to use it on T-Mobile gave me the impression that you KNEW it was sim-locked to AT&T.
Hope this answers all of your questions.
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that is what i meant in the OP but then you said that the bootloader cant be unlocked so i was also wondering if it can be rooted. Guess not ill look into T-mobile Moto X's
Has there been any confirmation or otherwise on whether or not the Play Store version will be able to be activated on Verizon?
I know there's only one SKU and I know that the Nexus 5 was able to be activated on Sprint, T-Mobile, and AT&T so I'm inclined to believe the Play Store device can be activated on any of the major carriers.
i've got similar questions.
like you, i wonder if this 1 "US" model is essentially identical across the board. i wonder if the play store variant can be activated on either cdma or gsm. i also wonder if there's a difference in the play store N6 and the N6 on motorolas web store. i guess i'm really just wondering if all the bootloaders can be unlocked, no matter where you purchased your Nexus 6.
There's only 2 models one for American one for the rest of the world. I have some doubts that Verizon will activate one from the play store only because they might require the imei to already be in their system as in bought from them. But it's possible to have them add your imei after the fact. Or at least sprint was able to with the N5
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There's only 2 models one for American one for the rest of the world. I have some doubts that Verizon will activate one from the play store only because they might require the imei to already be in their system as in bought from them. But it's possible to have them add your imei after the fact. Or at least sprint was able to with the N5
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My understanding is with Verizon, if you already have an activated nano-SIM, you can just put it in the Nexus 6 and it would work (if you set the APN details right). Can anyone confirm this?
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My understanding is with Verizon, if you already have an activated nano-SIM, you can just put it in the Nexus 6 and it would work (if you set the APN details right). Can anyone confirm this?
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This is my understanding
The problem with VZW is you can't just out your Sim into a phone that doesn't have its IMEI/MEID white listed in their system because of the CDMA part. I'm hoping that all of the IME/MEID of all the Nexus 6s will be added but we have no confirmation and VZW won't comment on the matter.
I hope they don't even have to add the imei it should just work.
joshua.justice said:
I hope they don't even have to add the imei it should just work.
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It wont just work on the cdma side .... Just like sprint and the nexus 5 they will have to manually add the imei to thier system. But should be easy .It may stop people from upgrading and keeping unlimited data but that is another thing in itself
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It wont just work on the cdma side .... Just like sprint and the nexus 5 they will have to manually add the imei to thier system. But should be easy .It may stop people from upgrading and keeping unlimited data but that is another thing in itself
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How can you be certain it won't?
Cdma doesnt work like gsm you can't just insert sim card and it work ... You could buy the n5 from Google and sprint had to manually add imei to system or you would not get 1x or 3g putting sim in only got you lte . should be the same again with both carriers now
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Cdma doesnt work like gsm you can't just insert sim card and it work ... You could buy the n5 from Google and sprint had to manually add imei to system or you would not get 1x or 3g putting sim in only got you lte . should be the same again with both carriers now
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But if you buy it from them it should work automatically? And is there any way for them to know if I get one from t mobile instead of Google and try to use it on their network?
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But if you buy it from them it should work automatically? And is there any way for them to know if I get one from t mobile instead of Google and try to use it on their network?
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It's not going to work and unless your phone has a nano sim in it right now ie a iPhone your going to have to call and get it activated on your account... Like i said the imei on sprint had to be added until then you would only get lte .... Without a activated nano sim you won't get anything
nexus6R3plicant said:
It's not going to work and unless your phone has a nano sim in it right now ie a iPhone your going to have to call and get it activated on your account... Like i said the imei on sprint had to be added until then you would only get lte .... Without a activated nano sim you won't get anything
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Okay, so I can cut it down and if that doesn't work get a new SIM. Can they tell the sim size based on the iccid number?
bloodiedwraith said:
Has there been any confirmation or otherwise on whether or not the Play Store version will be able to be activated on Verizon?
I know there's only one SKU and I know that the Nexus 5 was able to be activated on Sprint, T-Mobile, and AT&T so I'm inclined to believe the Play Store device can be activated on any of the major carriers.
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The Verge said, "The Nexus 6 is going to be sold unlocked for $649... The unlocked model will work on all four major US carriers."
Straight talk
I was wondering if I will be able to use this on the Straight talk CDMA network. Seeing the Nexus 5 was not sold by Verizon that made sense, but since Verizon will have the Nexus 6 I am hoping I will be able to use this phone on Straight talk using CDMA network. I am currently on AT&T and am waiting for the N6 release to switch over to ST, but I really need to know if I can use this phone if I switch. Anyone have an idea or is it still to early to know something like this?
stunnedjack said:
I was wondering if I will be able to use this on the Straight talk CDMA network. Seeing the Nexus 5 was not sold by Verizon that made sense, but since Verizon will have the Nexus 6 I am hoping I will be able to use this phone on Straight talk using CDMA network. I am currently on AT&T and am waiting for the N6 release to switch over to ST, but I really need to know if I can use this phone if I switch. Anyone have an idea or is it still to early to know something like this?
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I don't think you'll be able to use the N6 on Straight Talk CDMA. I can't use my Verizon Moto X on it. Only a CDMA flip phone was accepted.
You'll be able to use it he N6 on Straight Talk GSM network.
rebretz000 said:
I don't think you'll be able to use the N6 on Straight Talk CDMA. I can't use my Verizon Moto X on it. Only a CDMA flip phone was accepted.
You'll be able to use it he N6 on Straight Talk GSM network.
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Ya, that is what I figured, not the worst thing to stay with the GSM network but I would have preferred the CDMA. Thanks.
stunnedjack said:
Ya, that is what I figured, not the worst thing to stay with the GSM network but I would have preferred the CDMA. Thanks.
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I'm leaving CDMA for GSM once I get my hands on some Nexi 6.
Giving up both my Verizon Unlimited lines to go with AT&T.
rebretz000 said:
I'm leaving CDMA for GSM once I get my hands on some Nexi 6.
Giving up both my Verizon Unlimited lines to go with AT&T.
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I hope you're giving (or selling) those unlimited lines to someone and not just cancelling — people would kill for those!
NOTashwin said:
I hope you're giving (or selling) those unlimited lines to someone and not just cancelling — people would kill for those!
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I was going to try and sale them on ebay. I was looking, doesn't look like they go for as much as they use to. I'm hoping to get enough to make it worth it. At least $200 per line. But maybe with the Nexus 6 the price will go back up.
Someone posted asking if it would work on AT&T so I looked around to see if it would work on Verizon and saw that Verizon has one LTE band that's different (VZW uses band 13, TMO uses 12). Would that weaken my signal strength enough that I shouldn't do it? I primarily am asking because I'm assuming the TMO S6 would have an unlocked bootloader and all I really want is to be able to root.
allthemalarkey19 said:
Someone posted asking if it would work on AT&T so I looked around to see if it would work on Verizon and saw that Verizon has one LTE band that's different (VZW uses band 13, TMO uses 12). Would that weaken my signal strength enough that I shouldn't do it? I primarily am asking because I'm assuming the TMO S6 would have an unlocked bootloader and all I really want is to be able to root.
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Verizon will NEVER activate a phone that they did not sell. Verizon, assholes that they are, won't even activate a Nexus 6 you purchased from the Play Store, even though it's 100% compatible. So the answer is, and always will be, NO.
entropism said:
Verizon will NEVER activate a phone that they did not sell. Verizon, assholes that they are, won't even activate a Nexus 6 you purchased from the Play Store, even though it's 100% compatible. So the answer is, and always will be, NO.
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Well...that's not true from what I've heard. I read the issue is that most Verizon reps just don't know how, not that they won't.
allthemalarkey19 said:
Well...that's not true from what I've heard. I read the issue is that most Verizon reps just don't know how, not that they won't.
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Look, I can say this with the utmost confidence, and all the willingness to put money behind my statement. Verizon will NOT activate a non-verizon phone.
entropism said:
Look, I can say this with the utmost confidence, and all the willingness to put money behind my statement. Verizon will NOT activate a non-verizon phone.
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I worked for Verizon for 3 years. It depends on a lot on the rep you get and your attitude. For a while there were a lot of issues with the system not allowing certain IEMI numbers to activate on the network. Why? Cause Verizon didn't sell these devices to anyone. But this has since changed mainly due to Page Plus and the other prepay options. Your best choice is to have a device with a sim card already and simply test it yourself in your other device. You've been able to use the Nexus 6 this way for a while on Verizon. The system Verizon uses is a bit extreme for activation because they'd rather suck your pocket book dry before allowing an unbranded device onboard.
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Look, I can say this with the utmost confidence, and all the willingness to put money behind my statement. Verizon will NOT activate a non-verizon phone.
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It doesn't matter if Verizon will activate a phone or not. If you have an activated SIM and then phone has Verizon's bands, it'll work. It just shows non-VZN device on MyVerizon. I've used a T-Mobile iPhone and Google Play Nexus 6 on Verizon.
Sadly, the T-Mobile S6 doesn't support Band 13 (Verizon's primary LTE band).
allthemalarkey19 said:
Someone posted asking if it would work on AT&T so I looked around to see if it would work on Verizon and saw that Verizon has one LTE band that's different (VZW uses band 13, TMO uses 12). Would that weaken my signal strength enough that I shouldn't do it? I primarily am asking because I'm assuming the TMO S6 would have an unlocked bootloader and all I really want is to be able to root.
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Samsung appears to be using different modems for different variants. The GSM models run one modem and the CDMA models run a Qualcomm.
Even if it was able to be activated on VZW I doubt it would run very well
As far as I'm aware, Verizon is still using CDMA for voice and SMS.
Does the T-Mobile S6 support CDMA bands that Verizon uses? 4G (data only, at the moment) uses GSM..
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entropism said:
Look, I can say this with the utmost confidence, and all the willingness to put money behind my statement. Verizon will NOT activate a non-verizon phone.
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Yes...it will activate on Verizon (Google Play Nexus 6)...however not in a store...you need to have an already active Verizon sim card. I've done it myself.
sd_N said:
Yes...it will activate on Verizon (Google Play Nexus 6)...however not in a store...you need to have an already active Verizon sim card. I've done it myself.
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Right, but that's the Nexus, which has the radios available. We're talking about the S6, which won't have the CDMA radios required to actually WORK on verizon outside of LTE coverage.
Notice I only brought up the Nexus because of Verizon not activating it themselves AND it being 100% compatible, not that it couldn't. The S6 isn't 100% compatible by any means, and is a completely different animal.
entropism said:
Right, but that's the Nexus, which has the radios available. We're talking about the S6, which won't have the CDMA radios required to actually WORK on verizon outside of LTE coverage.
Notice I only brought up the Nexus because of Verizon not activating it themselves AND it being 100% compatible, not that it couldn't. The S6 isn't 100% compatible by any means, and is a completely different animal.
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True...some folks would take it as a literal NO though and think it not possible at all. I wish Samsung would make all their newer phones with unlocked cdma and gsm radios...and of course unlocked bootloaders. I guess pick your poison. Lol
sd_N said:
True...some folks would take it as a literal NO though and think it not possible at all. I wish Samsung would make all their newer phones with unlocked cdma and gsm radios...and of course unlocked bootloaders. I guess pick your poison. Lol
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Well, it was a literal no. Verizon will not activate it for you. Literal no. It will not work properly. Literal no. It's just a bad idea in general, but so is giving Verizon your money. Just saying...
You could get it working yourself, but only barely, and with multiple issues. So why would you?