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"LG Aus irons bugs out of Optimus 2X
World's first dual-core phone on sale downunder.
LG Australia has finally broken its silence over ongoing problems with the Optimus 2X, which Guiness World Records acknowledges as the world’s first dual-core smart phone.
Users overseas and locally who had bought the product through eBay and other online sources reported a number of issues with the phone including random power-offs.
The Korean company subsequently released a patch, however, many users continued to report malfunctions.
LG Australia marketing director Brad Read confirmed that the problems related to the incompatibility of the phone's software – developed with Google’s Android 2.2 Froyo – and the handset's dual core processor.
For several weeks LG Australia’s Facebook page has been peppered with customer complaints, however, LG only acknowledged the problem on the social networking site yesterday.
One reader said he was selling his Optimus 2X for $1 on eBay as a paperweight.
Read, however, said that all of the problems had now been ironed out.
An updated software fix had been installed in phones shipped to Australia with no customers buying locally expected to have any problems.
The Optimus 2X goes on sale this week at Harvey Norman and was expected to soon become available through other outlets including mobile carriers.
Its price tag in Australia would be around $650.
Notwithstanding the software compatibility issues, the Optimus 2X was expected to generate much kudos for LG in the highly competitive mobile phone market, and woo users with its promise of dramatically faster management of mobile apps and downloading of web content."
Source: http://www.itnews.com.au/News/257825,lg-aus-irons-bugs-out-of-optimus-2x.aspx
So it seems to be a driver/kernel/software problem?
But when are we getting it??
ULJ said:
An updated software fix had been installed in phones shipped to Australia with no customers buying locally expected to have any problems.
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Could anyone living in Australia confirm this?
The explanation seems kinda vague to me, not to mention the timing. They say the fix it just in time for the Australian launch? Sounds like a publicity thing to me. People who use custom roms with gingerbread still have the reboot problems, right?
cynop said:
The explanation seems kinda vague to me, not to mention the timing. They say the fix it just in time for the Australian launch? Sounds like a publicity thing to me. People who use custom roms with gingerbread still have the reboot problems, right?
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Yes is all 100% bull****
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Yes is all 100% bull****
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come on...custom rom with gingerbread its very diferrent than stock..dont forget that is CM7 nightly version and it has very different commits and drivers and blah blah..i also suffered by reboot issues in the very first start using nightly cm gingerbread but if you will try the last build you will see that random reboots it has been fixed..at least for me!i dont get any random reboots..!with stock rom also i didnt got even once a random reboot..!
cm7 it has nothing to do with stock froyo and even if when stock gingerbread will be released!
But why should we accept a flagship phone that have known fatal problems?
u know, the price of first batch is about 30% higher than now.
And we always face the sudden dead when charging.
LG should have solved this issue before selling.
kencheung2008 said:
But why should we accept a flagship phone that have known fatal problems?
u know, the price of first batch is about 30% higher than now.
And we always face the sudden dead when charging.
LG should have solved this issue before selling.
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amateurs will become proffesionals in the future..LG seems right now doing a step to proffesionality and a next step closer to future LOL
at least they released a fix..this is unbelievable
seems they will get more serious with the LG2X from now and on...
edangel said:
amateurs will become proffesionals in the future..LG seems right now doing a step to proffesionality and a next step closer to future LOL
at least they released a fix..this is unbelievable
seems they will get more serious with the LG2X from now and on...
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=)) do you really believe all the **** u saying ?
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=)) do you really believe all the **** u saying ?
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absolutely not for LG..but for the cyanogenmod team i am very possitive..!!if i have to believe for LG's future then i must first see the stock gingerbread rom when they will release it..but i have a good feeling that it would be cool and optimised with our tegra2 better than froyo...!
but you must stop complaining...every device has its ****s..not only LG2X..!
tell me the ultimate device with 100% working condition without bugs and lags..!!
i think there is one..the NOKIA 3310
kencheung2008 said:
But why should we accept a flagship phone that have known fatal problems?
u know, the price of first batch is about 30% higher than now.
And we always face the sudden dead when charging.
LG should have solved this issue before selling.
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man, then u probably could have bought your o2x half a year later. it is obvious, if one looks a the stock software of the o2x, that LG was trying to throw it on the market fast, to be the first dual core phone - to generate max profit.
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absolutely not for LG..but for the cyanogenmod team i am very possitive..!!if i have to believe for LG's future then i must first see the stock gingerbread rom when they will release it..but i have a good feeling that it would be cool and optimised with our tegra2 better than froyo...!
but you must stop complaining...every device has its ****s..not only LG2X..!
tell me the ultimate device with 100% working condition without bugs and lags..!!
i think there is one..the NOKIA 3310
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Damn I loved that phone
edangel said:
at least they released a fix..this is unbelievable
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Well, for now, they just *said* they have released a fix. And it's not the first time. So, until there's any proof of it, you're right, it is very hard to believe, even with a strong effort.
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Don't bother with Edangel, he rants about how great his O2x is in almost every topic. In his own little world.
theres a couple of guys who have bought the australian version over at the whirlpool forums http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=1598794&p=22#r434, i have asked them to post what version they are running, if these issues are fixed with the new update then i would expect these phones to be running it, but i think that is unlikley, would like to know what LG australia has done to iliminate these problem in the aus version yet the rest of the world has to wait, llike others here i'm very warey of LG's 'it's fixed it's fixed' statements
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Don't bother with Edangel, he rants about how great his O2x is in almost every topic. In his own little world.
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No mate you are wrong..its not great!!you think that all the other phones is better than this one!you are wrong..believe i ve tried sooo many devices and all had bugs and problems and i heard many complains for every each device..its a normal phenomenal even here for lg2x..even lg have bugs but its better than the others..!u must admit that every device is not like a super hero that can do everything!only in dream you can find that..!even a ferrari car have mechanical bugs lol...but what if you compare it with a honda or a wolkswagen??really?at least you pay less for fixing volkswagen than ferrari... ;-) that at least is what lg doing..its still a lada car man in a working great condition! Hahaha
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edangel said:
complains for every each device..its a normal phenomenal even here for lg2x..even lg have bugs but its better than the others..!u must admit that every device is not like a super hero that can do everything!only in dream you can find that..!even a ferrari car have mechanical bugs lol...but what if you compare it with a honda or a wolkswagen??really?at least you pay less for fixing volkswagen than ferrari... ;-) that at least is what lg doing..its still a lada car man in a working great condition! Hahaha
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I got all the ones without oil and damaged engines and flat tires...
Or in other words an used car for the price of a new one ;-)
Is this normal phenomenal for this branch or only for this particular car.
Well after owned many, I dare to say that all engines where new and not broken...Sometimes a flat tire
I don't trust that the mechanic will fix this engine
Well this ends the metaphor and leaves us waiting for that magical O2X fix :-(
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one of the australain guys who purchased in aus has posted that his version V10b, isn't that the stock rom that launched with the phone ?, so how have LG australia manged to fix a phone with so many problems and still be using Version V10b, when a lot of us have applied what LG stated was a fix for the issues in version V10d
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one of the australain guys who purchased in aus has posted that his version V10b, isn't that the stock rom that launched with the phone ?, so how have LG australia manged to fix a phone with so many problems and still be using Version V10b, when a lot of us have applied what LG stated was a fix for the issues in version V10d
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Said news if that's the case makes me worried about the update :-(
Maybe he got old stock or imported stuff ?
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ozivillan said:
one of the australain guys who purchased in aus has posted that his version V10b, isn't that the stock rom that launched with the phone ?, so how have LG australia manged to fix a phone with so many problems and still be using Version V10b, when a lot of us have applied what LG stated was a fix for the issues in version V10d
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Kernel version?
We regret having to announce that the software version expected by the end of the month - in order to solve the instability problems alleged by some customers - has been postponed for several weeks. Troubleshooting is taking longer than expected because of the systematic nature of the anomalies reported, involving only a part of owners of LG Dual Optimus. Many customers have found the solution to instability in fact known (and reset the product off the phone is charging) with the upgrade to version V10b, we recommend that in any case to make. We also recommend that you reset the product to the factory settings using the menu "Privacy" after the upgrade.
However, we are aware of the hardships that some of you are trying with our product. All resources are stretched to the limit of LG to release a best software as soon as possible, but at present we have to move the deadline for issuing the second half of June. We will do everything possible to bring forward this date. We apologize again with all of you who have given us confidence when you buy LG Dual Optimus.
More news on the software release will be released on the official media, or the Facebook fanpage "LG in the Box" and "Italy LG - Life's Good" and the official blog LGBlog.it.
Quite glad im one of the few that has not had any issues what so ever
Some information is better than no information
little news and hope more information soon
Wasn't the update supposed to be online in april? Oh well, at least now we know when we'll get it
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Update to gingerbread or what?
pre-gingerbread update postoponed and Gigerbread update postponed AGAIN!
LG say now "before end of summer" for gingerbread and end of june for bug-fixes!
First "immediately after the early sales", next "before the summer", next "before the end of june".. now "before end of summer!!"
Never again an LG product. Good products but support = 0.
Loooool. Crap LG!!!
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Im wondering if i can get my money back for being lied about future updates. I dont know much the problems fixing these problems but what i do know is that I bought this device because they announced immediatly updates after release to 2.3.
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Just spoke to LG Sweden and they still say May so I guess they have four days left untill I go ****ing ninja on their ass!
They first mentioned a FIX in March with the now classic "in two weeks" phrase.
My patience is over, done, finito, spent.
Now just waiting for stable cm7
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Now just waiting for stable cm7
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Agree. Lost faith in LG, and I have bought alot from them. Big "46 3m ago, stuff to kitchen and so on. Wont buy another thing from them again!
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so I guess they have four days left untill I go ****ing ninja on their ass!
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Now that's funny... Scandinavian humor
Sad to hear that but fortunately I can not complain about my LG so far. Everyhing works like a charm. Had 2 androids before and this one is way better, didn't find a single problem so far. I hope to get update soon anyway, because of all other users, who have problems with their phones...
Well, once my phone froze, twice it lost GSM signal till restart, but i guess thats not so bad in 2 week run.
I was really looking forward to official 2.3, but well.. Maybe its better to have postponed upgrades and receive stable system, then having early issued gingerbread no more stable then current CM7 ^^
I spoke with LG Norway yesterday and I said I was waiting for the May update. She stopped me and told me it was coming in May or June so I guess the sad news is true Will preorder the HTC Sensation today!
If You guys think than LG support is crap go and have a read what people say about Sony Ericsson support or Samsung, and belive me or not LG is not so bad because, even if they postpone the update they said nice and clear: they are up to date and they know the problem is still hire for some people after last update, they try fix this, personally i have no problem with my phone i have 3 rebots just after update to 10d but when i perform a hard reset all back to normal, and no problem so far.
Wwax said:
Just spoke to LG Sweden and they still say May so I guess they have four days left untill I go ****ing ninja on their ass!
They first mentioned a FIX in March with the now classic "in two weeks" phrase.
My patience is over, done, finito, spent.
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this is the last time i buy a LG phone , they always forget their customers
You say that but he O2X is being left behind and its one of the latest phones. All samsung phones have GB, experia arc and play have GB and most HTC have or will have shortly. Bit depressing for those like me that got the phone on day of release, let alone those (again including me) who have the BSOD and random reboots.
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If You guys think than LG support is crap go and have a read what people say about Sony Ericsson support or Samsung, and belive me or not LG is not so bad because, even if they postpone the update they said nice and clear: they are up to date and they know the problem is still hire for some people after last update, they try fix this, personally i have no problem with my phone i have 3 rebots just after update to 10d but when i perform a hard reset all back to normal, and no problem so far.
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I've read many reviews on this device and so far it seems like it's the perfect fit for me, especially since LTE isn't available in my area. Cheap, well built and uses stock Android... Fantastic. Then I come here and I'm starting to read that it might not be the awesome device I thought it was... Overheating, poor benchmarks, bad battery life... These sound like deal-breakers. So before I retire my MyTouch 3G Slide (yes, I know it's incredibly old...) and buy one of these I must ask if this really does have some major flaws that can't be fixed by a custom rom. It still seems like the bargain of the century, but if it's not going to work like an android-powered quad core phone then maybe I should reconsider.
Sorry if this has been beaten to death but I haven't seen a post that sums up all of the issues with this phone yet.
There are no problems with it, these people just like to whine.. It will be a great upgrade for you
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There have been plenty of posts that sum up the issues and answer your question
1. All reviewers were testing on pre-release builds of the software
2. Maybe all the issues get quashed by the time they release the N4 to the public. Then again, maybe not.
Since you have held out so long, I suggest you stick with it for a week or two more. But if thats something you can't do (I know I can't ), just go ahead and get one.
Given the fact that Google has oriented the Nexus more towards users than towards the devs unlike the previous versions, I doubt they will overlook any hardware issues with the phone. Software glitches, if any, will be fixed soon.
We can't see a ''verdict'' until we see the final product and ppl get their hands on it, as everything being told right now must be taken as speculation as it aint the final version of the phone...
Plus these phones being reviewed are not the final version being released on the 13th
Buy it. You won't be sorry. There's nothing else like it out there. I'm also coming from a very old phone (not as old as yours though) an Optimus V. The way I see it, ANY phone, even one with a few minor flaws, will be better than what we have.
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In before lock.
People in this forum don't even have the phone. This phone is going to kick ass. You think Google would choose a phone that had poor benchmarks, poor battery life for their Nexus line. All of this is coordinated and tested ahead of time.
Apparently this whole project was completed in 6 months.
Since they havent made a huge change from the physical interior and exterior of the optimus g, it really can only be better than it with the software.
Patience...
Petraman,
Wait for real reviews after a few weeks the phone is released on Nov 13, 2012. A good review takes time for the reviewer to actually "use" the phone daily and give us a first hand experience. That is what we are looking for when we read the reviews. The early reviews information you should take from them is the hardware analysis only. The software needs time test.
I think it's going to be a great device. I'm coming from an LG G2x, and believe me when I say that LG makes GREAT hardware. It was just the software which sucked. All the reviewers are biased, whether it's towards Samsung or Apple. If anything, you can just return the Nexus or get it exchanged if anything is wrong with it.
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There have been plenty of posts that sum up the issues and answer your question
1. All reviewers were testing on pre-release builds of the software
2. Maybe all the issues get quashed by the time they release the N4 to the public. Then again, maybe not.
Since you have held out so long, I suggest you stick with it for a week or two more. But if thats something you can't do (I know I can't ), just go ahead and get one.
Given the fact that Google has oriented the Nexus more towards users than towards the devs unlike the previous versions, I doubt they will overlook any hardware issues with the phone. Software glitches, if any, will be fixed soon.
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:good:what he said!
Go for it and enjoy state of the art development on XDA! Cool
galaxys said:
Go for it and enjoy state of the art development on XDA! Cool
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This. If anything (on the software front) could be fixed, it would be fixed by the XDA first. :good::good:
The verdict is that its not released yet.
Even from the reviews I don't see a single 1 dramatising even one of those problems as much as the people who cry on the forums (and haven't even held one).
Plus, any day of the year, only Anandtechs review is worth anything. They have always been unbiased, transparent and complete. Anand is like a robot.
What verdict? It's not released for consumers yet, order starts on Nov 13th.
Pretty sure we've got enough of these types of threads OP, feel free to continue the discussion in one of them :good:
Closed.
Appears this is where we come to an end with development and rooting. All other g4s have been Rooted on Android m. We just don't have any love for this device. Appears we all messed up when we chose sprint as our carrier. Argh!
Wat, who are you? What makes you think you can make that call? There are people that spent countless hours making ROMs and Developing for the Sprint LG G4 and you think you have the final say?
Quoting what you said just in case you edit you post: "Appears this is where we come to an end with development and rooting. All other g4s have been Rooted on Android m. We just don't have any love for this device. Appears we all messed up when we chose sprint as our carrier. Argh!" with screenshot: http://i.imgur.com/DxsEmvG.png
Not the right way to think, just wait. Have you contributed in anyway to the Sprint LG G4 here on XDA? I sure have with my free hotspot bug (patched on Android M).
I highly doubt Verizon G4 is rooted on m.
In fact I don't think they even have Marshmallow update yet.
what is so appealing in Marshmallow to make one want to upgrade urgently? If you have stable L with root and xposed, why not staying with it. I do not think there is Xposed for M anyways yet, which is the main reason to root this phone.
I am with you. This phone is the most disappointing tech purchase in all my years of existence. I love the camera and removable battery but this phone is just crap and doesn't get much dev love. I beat if the bootloader got unlocked and I can load a true rom on it this phone would be great. I think most of the problems is LG's crappy modifications to android. Every time it get slow, unresponsive, the touch screen lags behind, or a stupid Sprint notification advertisement pops up I want to chuck it against a wall and then jump off a cliff.
I am just using this as a rude awakening to the future. This will most likely be one of the last phones that isn't sealed tight. Guess I need to carry around a clunky battery pack with cable dangling from my pockets instead of a small quick batter swap. Rooting and unlocking the bootloader will become ever more difficult with upcoming phones. The glory days are over I feel
centran said:
I am with you. This phone is the most disappointing tech purchase in all my years of existence. I love the camera and removable battery but this phone is just crap and doesn't get much dev love. I beat if the bootloader got unlocked and I can load a true rom on it this phone would be great. I think most of the problems is LG's crappy modifications to android. Every time it get slow, unresponsive, the touch screen lags behind, or a stupid Sprint notification advertisement pops up I want to chuck it against a wall and then jump off a cliff.
I am just using this as a rude awakening to the future. This will most likely be one of the last phones that isn't sealed tight. Guess I need to carry around a clunky battery pack with cable dangling from my pockets instead of a small quick batter swap. Rooting and unlocking the bootloader will become ever more difficult with upcoming phones. The glory days are over I feel
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I disabled and uninstalled everything I could with sprint software. Haven't had any of their pop ups in months. It seems you bought a phone in one of the bad batches with your lagging screen.
I hate their UI though...
One of the best phones I've had in terms of specs etc. Would be something if I could run CM13 on this one day..
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I don't have Android M on my phone yet....
...so maybe I can keep my hopes up. Sprint didn't give me Marshmallow on my phone. I'm not begging for it either. From what I'm gathering here, you're all good if you're on Lollipop (5.1) Right?
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I disabled and uninstalled everything I could with sprint software. Haven't had any of their pop ups in months. It seems you bought a phone in one of the bad batches with your lagging screen.
I hate their UI though...
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Yep I had a bad batch phone and it was before Sprint admitted the problem so I sent it to LG. LG fixed my phone but did not replace it. That is probably the big problem. Now I have a phone that is only having lagging problems and since that is subjective and random so not easily repeatable I am screwed.
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...so maybe I can keep my hopes up. Sprint didn't give me Marshmallow on my phone. I'm not begging for it either. From what I'm gathering here, you're all good if you're on Lollipop (5.1) Right?
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We do have Marshmallow, but the OTA is taking reaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaally long.
I just got the notification a few minutes ago for the update. I'm from Michigan and figured I was one of the last places to get it but I guess not. Newho, I've read that there's gonna be more dev work on our g4 but they were waiting for Android m to come out before they focused their energy to cracking the bootloader. Stay patient as the carriers are getting wise to what our devs have been doing and they try to seal up the phone to keep us out. But when there's a will there's a way and it will happen eventually.
Well I'm hoping for ultrapop marshmallow, lol. The phone stock was fine and ultrapop was perfect for me. Would be nice to have cm in this phone but ultrapop was all I really need.
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Well I'm hoping for ultrapop marshmallow, lol. The phone stock was fine and ultrapop was perfect for me. Would be nice to have cm in this phone but ultrapop was all I really need.
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Don't think that's gonna happen, as MM security is the reason we don't even have systemless root yet. UltraPop relies on changing the system partition, which the Lollipop boot sequence isn't as strong. in MM as soon as the system partition is changed, it causes hashes and whatnot to change, the boot sequence detects the changes and doesn't allow the phone to boot. I think we'll need an unlocked bootloader for UP-type "pseudo-roms"
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Don't think that's gonna happen, as MM security is the reason we don't even have systemless root yet. UltraPop relies on changing the system partition, which the Lollipop boot sequence isn't as strong. in MM as soon as the system partition is changed, it causes hashes and whatnot to change, the boot sequence detects the changes and doesn't allow the phone to boot. I think we'll need an unlocked bootloader for UP-type "pseudo-roms"
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Exactly. I was able to work-around the system partition in ZV6 because LG security only checked for certain files were present. In ZV8, there is LG security checksum for the whole system partition. Since we have a locked bootloader, we can't modify Kernel without tripping the boot security. I am still going to try to get a modified stock ROM working, or maybe mix of ZV6/ZV8, but have not had much time lately.
Roms for our phone? please tell me where roms are at for our phone. i only see 1. that is still stock. ultrapop
Go to the Sprint Fun and Games app and hit the menu button, then settings, then deselect the box Atuomatically install Zone / Fun & Game updates and the notifications boxes. Super disappointed in Sprint for having this.
centran said:
I am with you. This phone is the most disappointing tech purchase in all my years of existence. I love the camera and removable battery but this phone is just crap and doesn't get much dev love. I beat if the bootloader got unlocked and I can load a true rom on it this phone would be great. I think most of the problems is LG's crappy modifications to android. Every time it get slow, unresponsive, the touch screen lags behind, or a stupid Sprint notification advertisement pops up I want to chuck it against a wall and then jump off a cliff.
I am just using this as a rude awakening to the future. This will most likely be one of the last phones that isn't sealed tight. Guess I need to carry around a clunky battery pack with cable dangling from my pockets instead of a small quick batter swap. Rooting and unlocking the bootloader will become ever more difficult with upcoming phones. The glory days are over I feel
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This phone has plenty of "dev love". Some of the best developers are trying their hand at it. There's a huge bounty for unlocking the bootloader, and plenty of people trying to earn it.
The problem is, until one of them (or the part timers like me) stumble across something that works, we're in a holding pattern. We have something stable that works in Android L with root and xposed framework, and until the bootloader issue is solved, that will have to do.
Be patient, OR hit the general Android development section and LEARN. Do it yourself. Grab the bounty. There's plenty of us doing what we can, even as far as hard bricking our devices and getting them replaced by trying methods that work for other devices. I myself am on my second LS991 from trying a method that worked on the kindle fire where you get into fastboot by nuking laf and still haven't had any luck getting a patched bootloader to stick.
So cool off and have some patience. Some people haven't even had the official OTA roll out to their area yet and you're crying that you don't have rooted M? Grow up.
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agentfusion said:
This phone has plenty of "dev love". Some of the best developers are trying their hand at it. There's a huge bounty for unlocking the bootloader, and plenty of people trying to earn it.
The problem is, until one of them (or the part timers like me) stumble across something that works, we're in a holding pattern. We have something stable that works in Android L with root and xposed framework, and until the bootloader issue is solved, that will have to do.
Be patient, OR hit the general Android development section and LEARN. Do it yourself. Grab the bounty. There's plenty of us doing what we can, even as far as hard bricking our devices and getting them replaced by trying methods that work for other devices. I myself am on my second LS991 from trying a method that worked on the kindle fire where you get into fastboot by nuking laf and still haven't had any luck getting a patched bootloader to stick.
So cool off and have some patience. Some people haven't even had the official OTA roll out to their area yet and you're crying that you don't have rooted M? Grow up.
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LG will not be unlocking any other G4's except the Euro H815.
Hello,
Thank you for your interest in LG mobile devices.
Currently, you can only unlock bootloader for LG G4 for the European market with model number H815.
And we have no plan to support bootloader unlocking for H815T.
If there are any changes to the supported devices, we will let you know via our website.
Thank you.
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DaemeonZane said:
LG will not be unlocking any other G4's except the Euro H815.
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And? That doesn't mean they can't be unlocked by other means. It just means LG will not be providing the binary file for oem-unlock via fastboot. Some of us have already gotten limited fastboot access by willingly destroying the laf partition and using a serial USB connection. Right now I'm working on trying to figure out how to get access to other fastboot commands not available in this limited mode, then it's just a matter of creating a reliable semi-automated process so it's accessible to less technical users, and if no one beats me to it; collecting the bounty on a reliable bootloader unlock and ability to flash recovery and make it stick. (Which, to be absolutely honest ... Though I'm not working with anyone else, I would not have gotten *anywhere* without ideas others have bounced around on these forums that helped me make progress when stuck, so I will contact each of them privately to divide half of the bounty between them if I am first to be able to collect it)
Isn't it funny? :laugh:
Nougat is already available...
EE still haven't rolled out the update for some reason
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Isn't it funny? :laugh:
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Yes it is funny, that 5% of people that probably have branded phone cry all the time that they didnt get update, where everyone else have it...
Its annoying that minority make so much noise about it that for people who watch that from side its look like its some major problem, where in reality its just small group of people who didnt get that update because of their region or branding...
Also, again, to everyone who cry about updates: GET A LIFE. Update will not make your phone super-mega-ultra better, its juts a bigger number in phone info and few random UI features... What do you expect from updating your phone? You could have damn 4.0 in it that just look like 7.0 and you would not notice difference...
Akinaro said:
5% of people didnt get update, where everyone else have it...
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Source?
Agitha said:
Source?
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Simple statistic math system: look for posts of people who have and dont have update, and to make it better, look for other forums too. It should took you about 10-15min because of magic of search engines(obviously use key words to speed it up). Or if you check such forums often you will get overall idea of how many people whine that they dont have update and people who say that they have.
And because of standard statistic reasoning that most of companies use, one person typically have the same opinion as 3-5 others people in group, so we round it up to some nice number(you should easily have 100 person that posted if they have/dont have update), and after that you will get that only about 5-15% of them dont have update, and biggest part of them didnt get it because they have branded device or live in specific region where even other companies dont push update so fast.
Of course statistics are statistics. They say only half of truth, but they give you basic idea of something without checking whole group, like for example group of people that own P9.
Also you can take in to the account Official Google statistics regarding Android:
https://developer.android.com/about/dashboards/index.html
And as you see here, only 8.9% of users have nougat on their devices.... it just prove that Huawei is not that bad at pushing updates, its just common problem with Android update system that google literally F### up at the beginning and didnt fix it for all those years(read: separating system components) :]
All the stats in the world aren't going to change the fact that it sucks, that despite promises of a "global" roll-out by the end of Q1 there are still 15% of us (according to your statistic) that didn't get the update.
If your company promised everyone bonus pay and in the end 15% of you didn't get it, you'd think that sucks too.
I've given up hope of receiving the update, seeing as the P10's been out for a few months already. And that sucks even more, because that means my Huawei "flagship" didn't even get ONE major Android update. And even though EMUI 4.1 is all right, there were a few features and improvements in EMUI 5.0 I was looking forward to.
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All the stats in the world aren't going to change the fact that it sucks, that despite promises of a "global" roll-out by the end of Q1
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So we should bash company because minority didnt get update, mostly because they have branded phone?
I got all updates that they roll out. And when you look at other brands and their update policy you will see that all companies promise fast updates and then for most of time they need to wait, OR WORST, they get that update but its bugged as hell and they need to wait even more to fix those bugs.
Also as I said, what do you really expect from those updates? Your phone doesnt work? it lack some features?
Because I had lots of devices, and Huawei P9 is not different here: new updates doesnt change much. More battery? More power? Nope. Most of people that say such thing say that because of clean install or lack of proper comparison(read: placebo).
All you will get is few random changes in UI that doesnt really matter in everyday usage and... thats it. Rest is just "something on changelog that you dont see anyway"
I'm not bashing anything.
You received all the updates and you think nothing important's been changed. Great for you. All I'm saying is: it's not up to you to decide what should or shouldn't be important for other people.
Some of the UI changes in EMUI 5.0 would make a difference to me in my daily use of the phone. But that's probably never going to happen. So yes, regardless of what you say: the fact that we still don't have an update sucks.
It's a flagship device. Very expensive device. And I still can't get the latest firmware update after 10 months of Nougat availability. They are completely incompetent if you admit it or not. It's embarrassing. This is my first and last phone from Huawei.
I think it's reasonable for owners of a machine that cost them the upper side of $500 to at least feel like the company respects them and is appreciative of their business.
You're right - updates aren't all that - however, they DO allow it's owners to feel connected to their devices, and foster the feeling that, yes, indeed, the machine was worth buying.
This is really the difference between Android and Apple and it does not help to excuse Android OEMs.
An update to 7.0 is not the same as an update within a particular series - it's a step upgrade to the current OS.
I also get upset with the constant whining for updates, however, it is reasonable, in JUNE for the Mate 9 owner to expect an update to Nougat.... And certainly to complain LOUDLY for not having received it. O is around the corner.
For Huawei and for the Mate 9, it's not too much to ask, PARTICULARLY when there are Mate 9s around the world that received updates half a year ago.
Let them complain is all I'm saying. People come here to feel like they've at least been heard. I know the frustration and sometimes just coming here and saying it, helps.
But also, really, if you had an update last month, don't come in and talk about how you'll 'never buy it again' because b300 has been out for at least two weeks, you've seen it, and the updates suck, you'll check again tonight and let us all know tomorrow. It cheapens the experience of an excellent phone and the hard work of the people behind it.
For those who haven't received the update, I'm sorry, I feel you, just remember you have a great, great phone - don't let the S8s and OnePlus's fool you, nor allow the lack of updates to degrade your enjoyment of the phone. The update will come, don't worry.
P.S. OMG - I've posted in the wrong topic...I thought this was Mate 9!! Oooops.
Why bash Huawei for it? In the case where providers didn't roll out the update, it is their fault, not Huawei's...
The update will come, don't worry. - Well no update since september 2016 when it comes to Vodafone Huawei P9, they keep saying they have not received the firmware from Huawei yet. Which means it's up to huawei to send the firmware to Vodafone for testing.
I bet most people debrand and update to nougat when their service provider seems to never be able to release an nougat firmware update because of huawei not giving it to them for testing. It should of been released months ago like a normal flagship phone.
I don't want Nougat anyway. All the builds I have used so far have been gash.
Quite happy on MM.
my advice is contact your local huawei support. I did a few weeks ago to be told that they have no intention of releasing the update in New Zealand to the p9 lite, and that they basically stopped supporting it in NZ last septemeber. This includes not patching the trustzone vulnerability. Have been working with the place I brought it from to get a refund
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It's a flagship device. Very expensive device. And I still can't get the latest firmware update after 10 months of Nougat availability. They are completely incompetent if you admit it or not. It's embarrassing. This is my first and last phone from Huawei.
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I agree, I got the P9 under EE... I couldn't believe no upgrade to nougat, and yes there is a big difference in the way new OS works with the phone... and the UI improvements help a lot in day to day usage of phone compared the crappy huawei marshmallow version... (very narrow minded of others to say you won't get any improvements..you do, I experienced the obvious difference!) .
I decided I wouldn't wait for the upgrade when I knew it was out... So I very very painfully upgraded the phone to nougat by spending stupid amounts of hours gaining knowledge. At the end I felt I got a new phone as responsiveness improved and the new emui 5 nougat OS was so much better and more usable. (fixed a lot of bugs)
So I feel for a lot of people who spend money to get flagship phones that never see the light of day with any upgrades/security patches, feels like we are cheated... Never owned (or will ever own) any apple ? IPhones but the OS ecosystem is rock solid... I wish the new OS version of Android that separates core OS from providers helps improve this.
Piece!
1 month and 7 days later - still nothing. :laugh:
I wouldnt worry about the 7 builds either, battery life is as good as halved.
Is it really? Why the issue? Are you sure its not the battery stats that need to re establish after a mjor upgrade?
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I wouldnt worry about the 7 builds either, battery life is as good as halved.
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I thought this too but since updating to b386 directly (skipped 361) battery life is far better than on MM. Been browsing Reddit and Facebook n WiFi for 2hr 44min and still have 71% battery left.