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Here is a discussion thread for all of us in UK!
I'm also interested to see how many people will get it from the pop-up event, oneplus website or o2.
Who's attending this?
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Kahun said:
Here is a discussion thread for all of us in UK!
I'm also interested to see how many people will get it from the pop-up event, oneplus website or o2.
Who's attending this?
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Is it definitely available from the popup event ?

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Is it definitely available from the popup event ?
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Yup it has been confirmed that you will be able to buy the OnePlus 5 on the day and some OnePlus swag too

I will be going to the pop up event, I hope the exclusive swag is worth it

Can't wait.

It's an O2 exclusive as far as the networks are concerned so you'll only have the choice of direct from OnePlus/this pop up or O2. Specs are good on paper I'm just not sure about the design yet with big bezels remaining so will go look at one in store and I'd be getting the midnight black for sure if I buy it. Might wait to see when the new Moto X4 is released as that's been rumoured to be announced on the 30th and always liked the Moto devices. Decisions decisions.....

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It's an O2 exclusive as far as the networks are concerned so you'll only have the choice of direct from OnePlus/this pop up or O2. Specs are good on paper I'm just not sure about the design yet with big bezels remaining so will go look at one in store and I'd be getting the midnight black for sure if I buy it. Might wait to see when the new Moto X4 is released as that's been rumoured to be announced on the 30th and always liked the Moto devices. Decisions decisions.....
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I will be getting the OP5 i reckon. I never liked the design of any of the Motorolas. I will be getting the black one definitely, apparently that colour will be reserved to the 8GB model according to rumours.

If buying from O2 there should be no colour reservation, black is their lead colour of the 2 being offered so from that I take it will be available on both sizes. I've never used the OP3T but if this has the claimed 20% longer battery life than that model I'm sure it'll be cracking. My 6P's battery is getting worse with age so needs replacing soon by something so I'm keen to get something new.
Also keen to see how good the 16 + 20MP f/1.7 rear camera with improved focus and shutter speed is as I'm more interested in a good camera then if it has a QHD screen. Will be interesting if the partnership with DXO actually paid off.
I think I need to do a side by side with my 6P to see how I'll get on with it as want to see if I'll miss the slightly bigger screen but then I doubt 0.2" will make a massive difference TBH. I defo prefer a rear central fingerprint sensor to front though so that will take some getting used to. 6P's a killer phone, just wish Google never killed off the Nexus line as would've definitely stayed loyal to the Nexus if they didn't, perfect spec for a perfect price.

I just got my 3T at the weekend. Passed my 6P to my wife as a replacement for her N6. For me, the 3T compares really well the the 6P. Definitely faster and smoother, camera not as good though although that matters more to my wife than me. The fingerprint sensor on the front hasn't been too much of a pain either. The drop in screen resolution isn't noticeable to me.
That all said iff the price is right and specs are good i'll probably return the 3T and get a 5.

Well if the 3T compares well to the 6P then the OP5 should do well! I've played with an S8 already and that feels awesome in hand and the screen looks crazy good so was tempted to save up for that however I really hate TW which ruins every release they have so has to be close to vanilla Android which this ticks the boxes for.
Oh well not long to wait now and we'll see how it stacks up but hopefully they continue their normal +£50 or so price increase and don't just whack £100 on top because they can.

Well today's the day guys 5pm..

For me the question is between the OP5 and the Nokia 9. I think I will be getting the OP5 as Nokia is an unknown for bootloader unlock and maybe waiting another few months until it's released where I like to get a phone soon after the processor in it is released.
I don't care about 1080p as it isn't really noticeable to 2k day to day (current and previous phones were 2k). Higher resolution is only beneficial for VR which I'm not interested in and just drains battery faster. Would be great if they move away from pentile display though.
Customisation via roms, up to date via security patches are important to me and we know OP has that based on their improvements with the 3/3T.
Lastly price on Nokia 9 is likely to be way more expensive than OP5 even if there is a price hike from the 3T.
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rav101 said:
For me the question is between the OP5 and the Nokia 9. I think I will be getting the OP5 as Nokia is an unknown for bootloader unlock and maybe waiting another few months until it's released where I like to get a phone soon after the processor in it is released.
I don't care about 1080p as it isn't really noticeable to 2k day to day (current and previous phones were 2k). Higher resolution is only beneficial for VR which I'm not interested in and just drains battery faster. Would be great if they move away from pentile display though.
Customisation via roms, up to date via security patches are important to me and we know OP has that based on their improvements with the 3/3T.
Lastly price on Nokia 9 is likely to be way more expensive than OP5 even if there is a price hike from the 3T.
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I think the price of the Nokia 9 will be in the OP5 area. I was reading an article that they want to be the new Nexus phones.

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I think the price of the Nokia 9 will be in the OP5 area. I was reading an article that they want to be the new Nexus phones.
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I feel like both will be very good phones. The main thing that worries me about the Nokia 9 is that when you look at the Nokia 3,5 or 6 I don't think their bootloader can be unlocked (yet). I would rather go with a OP5 with unlockable bootloader than a phone that would require an exploit to achieve the same.
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I'm really confused by something. Although I really want one of these, it seems I would never benefit from VoLTE 4G calls because the OnePlus phones are not sold on EE or Three for example. How do UK customers deal with this?
I benefit from VoLTE being out in the sticks so if I were to lose that, I probably wouldn't be able to use the phone for much at all.

bluewomble88 said:
I'm really confused by something. Although I really want one of these, it seems I would never benefit from VoLTE 4G calls because the OnePlus phones are not sold on EE or Three for example. How do UK customers deal with this?
I benefit from VoLTE being out in the sticks so if I were to lose that, I probably wouldn't be able to use the phone for much at all.
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Umm O2 does have WiFi and 4G calling actually. They switched it on in March.
http://news.o2.co.uk/2017/03/29/wifi-4g-calling-comes-o2/

rav101 said:
I feel like both will be very good phones. The main thing that worries me about the Nokia 9 is that when you look at the Nokia 3,5 or 6 I don't think their bootloader can be unlocked (yet). I would rather go with a OP5 with unlockable bootloader than a phone that would require an exploit to achieve the same.
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Yeah that's true I suppose and with OnePlus you don't have to worry about voiding your warranty if you do unlock the bootloader.

Yes O2 offer OnePlus but I'm in the middle of a Three contract. In other words, the OnePlus 5 is useless to me because I wouldn't get VoLTE features right?

OnePlus don't have carrier versions though do they?
I assume even if you buy it from O2, it will have the same software as if you bought it from OnePlus themselves?

alexp999 said:
OnePlus don't have carrier versions though do they?
I assume even if you buy it from O2, it will have the same software as if you bought it from OnePlus themselves?
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This is what I really don't know. O2 sell the OnePlus 3T but I can't find evidence that they change the firmware before shipping to make VoLTE work. However, both Three and EE have told me that VoLTE will not work on this device unless they supply the phone.

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Dont you think this phone got old too fast?

Just as the title says. This phone hasnt gotten the best of time really, its just been 1.5 years and it got replaced by Optimus G, Optimus Gpro, optimus G2 and other iterations of LG. WHat makes me kinda weary is how bad this is compared to the likes of S3. I mean that phone got the 4.22 and still has a n active community, I hardly see any posts here.
I percieve this as unfair because this phone, i feel, is better than some if not all midrange phones that are available today. Some people got shafted by issues such as dust underscreen but I never had that problem.
Would this phone still be a good buy compared to a midrange phone such as Moto G? The moto g is cheap and powerful but what about build quality?
I must say, the moto g is the only midrange phone that is extremely worth to what it is offering, most midrange phones new or old are too expensive compared to old flagships, like comparing the S4 mini with our phone...
I think that too many phones are pumped out just for the heck of it. There is no real evolution compared to last year.
Bigger sizes + lots of gimmicks that could easily be added with a software update and so on.Most seem to have bigger batteries and beter screens but heck, I can buy a bigger battery and the higher PPI does not bother me because I cant see individual pixels...So, whats the point in upgrading?
The only phone that seems innovative on LGs side is the G flex, it seems both from the material side and the way it looks as a change that is noticable and useful.
You know, I wish old flagships at least did not die because 500 other flagships got released. Things age too quicly.
And no, apple is not the answer. i cant stand apple products... I hate their design,iOS and their pricing is ridiculous.
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Just as the title says. This phone hasnt gotten the best of time really, its just been 1.5 years and it got replaced by Optimus G, Optimus Gpro, optimus G2 and other iterations of LG. WHat makes me kinda weary is how bad this is compared to the likes of S3. I mean that phone got the 4.22 and still has a n active community, I hardly see any posts here.
I percieve this as unfair because this phone, i feel, is better than some if not all midrange phones that are available today. Some people got shafted by issues such as dust underscreen but I never had that problem.
Would this phone still be a good buy compared to a midrange phone such as Moto G? The moto g is cheap and powerful but what about build quality?
I must say, the moto g is the only midrange phone that is extremely worth to what it is offering, most midrange phones new or old are too expensive compared to old flagships, like comparing the S4 mini with our phone...
I think that too many phones are pumped out just for the heck of it. There is no real evolution compared to last year.
Bigger sizes + lots of gimmicks that could easily be added with a software update and so on.Most seem to have bigger batteries and beter screens but heck, I can buy a bigger battery and the higher PPI does not bother me because I cant see individual pixels...So, whats the point in upgrading?
The only phone that seems innovative on LGs side is the G flex, it seems both from the material side and the way it looks as a change that is noticable and useful.
You know, I wish old flagships at least did not die because 500 other flagships got released. Things age too quicly.
And no, apple is not the answer. i cant stand apple products... I hate their design,iOS and their pricing is ridiculous.
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Yes ..this phone was the most under rated phone .
Its actually better than s3 ...
Feeling sad for the 4x hd users ..
Shame on you LG ...
They haven't even provided software updates
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Yep
I'm getting the Samsung Galaxy S4 mini soon (read 2 weeks), just because i want a phone with the same price range (~300 euros) and one which does actually gets new updates
The problem with this phone is due too LG releasing too many top of the lines model at very rapid succession. Plus most Android manufacturer are too focused on their hardware and less on the software, making continuous software updates not exactly a priority. Samsung seems to be aware of this and are improving whilst LG & HTC are still in this trajectory. Sad, really. This phone is really good but the software is holding it back.
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The problem with this phone is due too LG releasing too many top of the lines model at very rapid succession. Plus most Android manufacturer are too focused on their hardware and less on the software, making continuous software updates not exactly a priority. Samsung seems to be aware of this and are improving whilst LG & HTC are still in this trajectory. Sad, really. This phone is really good but the software is holding it back.
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This is business! They put out, back to back, new phones and neglect software updates so that we, stupid consumers, could spend money on the new phone! If they update software for a great period of time, there would be no need for new phones and technologies and they would ran out of business! Simple as that...
brunek said:
This is business! They put out, back to back, new phones and neglect software updates so that we, stupid consumers, could spend money on the new phone! If they update software for a great period of time, there would be no need for new phones and technologies and they would ran out of business! Simple as that...
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Apple made 3 year old phones that are still compatible with the latest software updates, also the latest iDevices have less ram than the latest android whilst also ran faster. The problem in android's core engineering used to made manufacturers reluctant to update their software since the hw might not be able to handle the software. But then Jelly Bean came out and ran faster in older devices, and things should change accordingly. But they're not. So yes, it might be their business mindset that needs to change.
I agree to this.. Someone mentioned that they even can get KK 4.4 on their Samsung Galaxy 1!
I'm also thinking about buying a new phone, but it's sad since the Optimus 4X is a good phone! I don't want a phone with the actionbar or what they call it (the back, home and menu buttons on-screen). And IF you gonna buy a new phone these days, i'm thinking it's smart to go for a phone with 1080x1920 screen. I'm thinking HTC One..
i love my x4 is very powerfull with nice screen normal size the only bad i battery :'(
greece-for-ever said:
i love my x4 is very powerfull with nice screen normal size the only bad i battery :'(
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I've noticed the problem with the battery drain as well, but only the last 2 months or so.. I run official CM10.1.3 stable, dunno if that's worse than CM10.2.. Kinda made me wonder lately!
i have try many roms and kernels combo because baterry drain and the best for me is zabien RC7 with original kernel underlock to 475 mhz verry low governor performance set 1 core ...all run enough smooth and i have 3h 50m screen on the best so far for me ... sorry for bad english
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Don't buy a new phone.
The industry wants you to think that you have to upgrade your phone every year, but really, what are you missing?
Is it that important to have 480ppi instead of 320 although you can't really tell a big difference? Is it necessary that your processor is twice as fast, although you can play pretty much every game completely lag free?
Back in the days people had their cellphone for many years, they were solid and bug-free. I think it isn't good to support the development of the ever-growing mobile industry, this isn't good for the environment and it isn't good for your purse
Surely our beloved phone got old too fast, but I guess it's perfect time to sell it for quite higher price and add about 35$ (in Poland) to get for example SGS 3. Then you'll get much better support from almost all sources (SGS 3 is receiving official 4.3, so..). I really hoped that our O4X would be easily developed by any dev, but now when I see that we won't even receive 3.4 kernel with OTG capability I must say, that in my opinion we already have our peak of developement (of course I know that unofficial 4.4 is comming, but for me there is no diffrence with causal kernel).
Maczuga said:
Surely our beloved phone got old too fast, but I guess it's perfect time to sell it for quite higher price and add about 35$ (in Poland) to get for example SGS 3. Then you'll get much better support from almost all sources (SGS 3 is receiving official 4.3, so..). I really hoped that our O4X would be easily developed by any dev, but now when I see that we won't even receive 3.4 kernel with OTG capability I must say, that in my opinion we already have our peak of developement (of course I know that unofficial 4.4 is comming, but for me there is no diffrence with causal kernel).
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Why would you buy a s3?? I mean it is also an old device with similar capabilities. Nexus 5 or even a nexus 4 seems like a better choice. But, for god's sake guys, did you buy phones for development purposes or to use, which, in my case, I bought it to use as a smartphone and it hasn't disappoint me too much, exact, may be other than battery.
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I wont buy an other phone, I will stick to this at least for more 2 years.
I've saved up too much for this and I have the confidence in our developers.
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Why would you buy a s3?? I mean it is also an old device with similar capabilities. Nexus 5 or even a nexus 4 seems like a better choice. But, for god's sake guys, did you buy phones for development purposes or to use, which, in my case, I bought it to use as a smartphone and it hasn't disappoint me too much, exact, may be other than battery.
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Both Nexus phones doesn't have SD card slot, so it's not worth me, currently I'm using built-in 16GB + 32GB card, also N4 - tegra, and here it costs around 500$, nexus 5 - 700$ (sick pricing). I need a phone that would in some cases replace a PC, so OTG is must have. I wanted to stick to this phone for 2 years, but for now it's impossible, and I really liked this device, it looks so beautiful.
Maczuga said:
Both Nexus phones doesn't have SD card slot, so it's not worth me, currently I'm using built-in 16GB + 32GB card, also N4 - tegra, and here it costs around 500$, nexus 5 - 700$ (sick pricing). I need a phone that would in some cases replace a PC, so OTG is must have. I wanted to stick to this phone for 2 years, but for now it's impossible, and I really liked this device, it looks so beautiful.
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Inside N4, theee is a freaking s4 pro with adreno 320 not tegra and seriously where would you live so that nexus devices cost that much? I live in south east Asia and nexus 5 - 500$, N4 -300$. BTW, nexus 5 does support USB otg.
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Inside N4, theee is a freaking s4 pro with adreno 320 not tegra and seriously where would you live so that nexus devices cost that much? I live in south east Asia and nexus 5 - 500$, N4 -300$. BTW, nexus 5 does support USB otg.
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In Poland we don't have Play Store with phones, just apps. We have to buy it from local stores, where pricing is like you see.
Maczuga said:
In Poland we don't have Play Store with phones, just apps. We have to buy it from local stores, where pricing is like you see.
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Amazon pls
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This will be my last phone of LG...Had HTC Trophy 7 before this one and it received updates regulary issued by Microsoft. Now I have this phone which on paper is amazing and its good in RL too, but I am stuck with old version of Android just because LG wont bother their overpaid devs to release new versions. So basically my LG is in graveyard regarding software. Next time I will go either with Nexus line from Google or go back to MS...at least when they upgrade system all manufacturers receive it...
Just shortly. The only thing i am missing probably is battery of something like 3000mAh.
Everything else fits price and in compare with other phones is just perfect.
You shouldnt request full developers forum as this phone is not a popular model. However with such users population it is just great to have at least few devs!!!!
For those who talk about MS. Probably that is wrong forum to talk about it...
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on the fence with Nexus 5

I had Galaxy Nexus for just a year when the Nexus 5 came out and it was love at first sight, some of my friends have it and i absolutely love that phone! My plan was to be patient and wait for the 2014's release of the new NExus.
Right now, not only the wait is killing me but there's also these rumours saying there will be no nexus 6, on the other hand if i wait till october to find out and decide to buy Nexus 5, then i'll be in the same situation i was 2 years ago with the Galaxy Nexus, I'd be buying a phone that will have a phone that receives no official updates after just one year ...
Anyone else in this situation? The wait to know more on NExus 6 is killing me!
I also wanted to wait for the bed Nexus 6, and it was a pain with my HTC one s. As soon as I heard the rumors I ran and got the Nexus 5 and it's awesome, don't regret it a bit.
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brunobliss said:
I had Galaxy Nexus for just a year when the Nexus 5 came out and it was love at first sight, some of my friends have it and i absolutely love that phone! My plan was to be patient and wait for the 2014's release of the new NExus.
Right now, not only the wait is killing me but there's also these rumours saying there will be no nexus 6, on the other hand if i wait till october to find out and decide to buy Nexus 5, then i'll be in the same situation i was 2 years ago with the Galaxy Nexus, I'd be buying a phone that will have a phone that receives no official updates after just one year ...
Anyone else in this situation? The wait to know more on NExus 6 is killing me!
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I just bought a 7 month old Nexus 5. For 5 reasons...
I'm upgrading from a HTC Desire (Bravo)
I've got a Nexus 7 with CM on and I love it
My friend has a N5 with stock ROM on and loves his phone
I'm heavy handed with my phones and want performance for price
I like the all black look Slimkat will offer with the bezel
On the above, I almost waited until the G3 came out, but I am very excited to receive my N5 tomorrow
Also, my desire has CM installed too.
No offense, but stop d*icking around with your legacy GN—please read my relevant post at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=48553703&postcount=1.
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No offense, but stop d*icking around with your legacy GN—please read my relevant post at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=48553703&postcount=1.
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Ur comparing a new flagship with a 5year -flagship- in the rate technology is going this is the least u can get
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I'll take that as an offense especially given the way you express your feelings.
Also, no offense but If you didn't read what I wrote, don't bother replying
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brunobliss said:
I had Galaxy Nexus for just a year when the Nexus 5 came out and it was love at first sight, some of my friends have it and i absolutely love that phone! My plan was to be patient and wait for the 2014's release of the new NExus.
Right now, not only the wait is killing me but there's also these rumours saying there will be no nexus 6, on the other hand if i wait till october to find out and decide to buy Nexus 5, then i'll be in the same situation i was 2 years ago with the Galaxy Nexus, I'd be buying a phone that will have a phone that receives no official updates after just one year ...
Anyone else in this situation? The wait to know more on NExus 6 is killing me!
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sorry, but if you're waiting around for the latest and greatest, you'll never be able to buy anything... the "next" device will always be better than the current one.
Get the Oneplus One when (or if) it becomes available for general sale. I love my N5 but that last update was so long in the making and so short in fixes and features. Hopefully the next OS version will be announced this month and we will know when it will be available, otherwise I may go to the oneplus or even the G3.
http://oneplus.net/one
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Get the Oneplus One when (or if) it becomes available for general sale. I love my N5 but that last update was so long in the making and so short in fixes and features. Hopefully the next OS version will be announced this month and we will know when it will be available, otherwise I may go to the oneplus or even the G3.
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How is this any different from any other phone on the planet? The nexus series gets updates a million times faster than other phones. The S3 I had before didn't get updated to 4.3 until just this past winter or so. Also, waiting for the oneplus phone might be longer than waiting for the nexus 6/ silver whatever Google has planned.
As for the G3, I wouldn't hold my breath on updates with that, especially if you're on Tmo. The Tmo version of the G2 still isn't easily rooted on kitkat.
OP, going from the original Galaxy Nexus to the N5 is going to be a major update, for me going from S3 to N5 was a noticeable upgrade. IMO the N5 is currently to best phone available, at least for somebody who likes rooting and custom roms. If you just want the latest and greatest go with s5 or g3.
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How is this any different from any other phone on the planet? The nexus series gets updates a million times faster than other phones. The S3 I had before didn't get updated to 4.3 until just this past winter or so. Also, waiting for the oneplus phone might be longer than waiting for the nexus 6/ silver whatever Google has planned.
As for the G3, I wouldn't hold my breath on updates with that, especially if you're on Tmo. The Tmo version of the G2 still isn't easily rooted on kitkat.
OP, going from the original Galaxy Nexus to the N5 is going to be a major update, for me going from S3 to N5 was a noticeable upgrade. IMO the N5 is currently to best phone available, at least for somebody who likes rooting and custom roms. If you just want the latest and greatest go with s5 or g3.
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I know the N5 gets the fastest updates, just saying this last one took a while and fixed almost nothing. Rumors that Nexus line is done and we have no idea when/if Silver is coming out and what the cost details will be. Oneplus one is taking forever to come out but the specs are great, price is right and CM should also have a fast update schedule.
I'll sell you my N5 with a flip wake case and spigen shell case for cheap. I love the nexus 5 but I have a nexus 4 back up phone and think I might get the moto x on sale today..
Any "significantly" better phones to come out, will have a significantly higher price.
Mostly I think these devices have sort of peaked. I think advances will be sluggish, and as I said...any huge improvement will come with a huge price.
So....buy what suits your needs and price range now. The N5 will hold its own for real world use for some time.
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I love my N5 but that last update was so long in the making and so short in fixes and features. Hopefully the next OS version will be announced this month and we will know when it will be available, otherwise I may go to the oneplus or even the G3.
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You can't be serious.
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The last update was a POINT release, not a feature release. It addressed some bugs that some people had, and not much more. That's what it was supposed to do. It didn't come out when you wanted it? Tough. Use something else, then talk to me about updates, available roms, support, etc.... you'll come running back. <the grass is always greener on the other side syndrome>
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KJ said:
Any "significantly" better phones to come out, will have a significantly higher price.
Mostly I think these devices have sort of peaked. I think advances will be sluggish, and as I said...any huge improvement will come with a huge price.
So....buy what suits your needs and price range now. The N5 will hold its own for real world use for some time.
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I agree. If the next gen phone was 8 cores/4gb ram/64bit and affordable, then yeah, wait. But that won't happen. As said, the N5 will be a force to reckon with for some time. It still has near-top specs and is $349. Nothing can touch it. With 4.4.3 and running ART, I would speedtest my phone against any stock phone confidently in real world examples. You are splitting hairs these days between phones until the TRUE next gen phone comes out. And even then, it will come with a big price.
I just got my N5 last week after going back and forth. I've had a ton of flagships in the past 6 months and nothing really compares to what the N5 has to offer for the price. Its easily my fav phone to date after using the MotoX, G2, Z1, and One m7. It has its drawbacks but its benefits outweigh them easily. If you're okay with the camera and battery specs, then its a great phone for sure.
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I just got my N5 last week after going back and forth. I've had a ton of flagships in the past 6 months and nothing really compares to what the N5 has to offer for the price. Its easily my fav phone to date after using the MotoX, G2, Z1, and One m7. It has its drawbacks but its benefits outweigh them easily. If you're okay with the camera and battery specs, then its a great phone for sure.
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The nexus 5 may have 99 problems, but the camera ain't one
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andino said:
I just got my N5 last week after going back and forth. I've had a ton of flagships in the past 6 months and nothing really compares to what the N5 has to offer for the price. Its easily my fav phone to date after using the MotoX, G2, Z1, and One m7. It has its drawbacks but its benefits outweigh them easily. If you're okay with the camera and battery specs, then its a great phone for sure.
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I really don't have the complaint with the camera, It works pretty descently. I have to say my biggest complaint after having the phone since it was released is how it switches from 3G to 4G. I am not sure if this is a network thing or not. But once the phone descides a 4G signal is to low, it switches to 3G, but doesnt switch back to 4G when the signal gets better. Happen all the time in my office building.. I am constantly putting it into airplane mode, then back out of airplane mode. Then it switches right back to 4G.
Apparently, the Nexus 6 has been halted and instead, they are working on "Android Silver". Maybe they are going to turn the Nexus 6 into something that will go head to head with HTC's and Samsungs heavyweights (HTC One M9 and Galaxy S6).
Some of the specs I read(reportedly) about the Nexus 6 were stunning. Hopefully it's still in production for a fall 2014 release. But I wont be surprised if it's delayed because of their interest for Android Silver
I hope this year's Google io will have some news regarding nexus 6. If not, I'll probably go ahead and acquire nexus 5
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The nexus 5 may have 99 problems, but the camera ain't one
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That's pretty subjective. Its decent but its not great.
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I really don't have the complaint with the camera, It works pretty descently. I have to say my biggest complaint after having the phone since it was released is how it switches from 3G to 4G. I am not sure if this is a network thing or not. But once the phone descides a 4G signal is to low, it switches to 3G, but doesnt switch back to 4G when the signal gets better. Happen all the time in my office building.. I am constantly putting it into airplane mode, then back out of airplane mode. Then it switches right back to 4G.
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Yeah I have the same thing with signal with mine. What network are you using. I'm on Tmo and it tends to do this pretty often with my Z1 as well.
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That's pretty subjective. Its decent but its not great.
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Actually it isn't. The only subjective part about it is that there are people who can't get a good shot even if you hand them a DSLR. IMO, nexus 5's camera is among top 5 android phone cameras.
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Nexus 4 to Nexus 6? Share your thoughts!

Edit: decision made, no Nexus 6 for me, it's too big, expensive and ugly immo, just ordered a brand new Nexus 5 from Amazon for €300. ☺
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As suspected for a few months, we will probably have a 6" Nexus phone coming this fall.
As a Nexus 4 user i am reluctant to start using a 6" phone, but being a Nexus user since the Nexus One, and after talking to a few friends with the Note i am inclined to take a leap of faith.
What do you guy's think, let's post a few pros and cons so we all can make an informed buy.
Pros:
Better browsing and youtube experience;
Stop carrying a tablet;
Possible massive battery.
Cons:
It won't fit all pockets;
Two hands usage;
Possible weight.
PS: let's skip the 5.2" vs 6" as it probably won't be happening.
I'm ready for the switch
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The Zel said:
I'm ready for the switch
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you forgot a unique con which plagues all nexus phones ....**** battery
HYPE.
I'm just waiting for it to be real and purchaseable.
I'm waiting for a Moto Nexus since Google bought Moto back in 2011! (and they do it after selling it to Lenovo lol)
Will buy day 1 regardless of its dimension! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Not going near any 6inch device, no matter if its called Nexus.
I prefer to have a tablet at 10 inch.
Unleashed by my Nexus 4
Nexus 6 should be max 5.5... 6 inches smart phone is useless, According to me
Nope. As much as I love the nexus line, that is just way too damn big for me. If I can't operate it one handed, I don't want it. If anything, I plan to finally move up to the Nexus 5, and the's max size I want in a phone. Any bigger and I say "thanks, but no thanks."
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you forgot a unique con which plagues all nexus phones ....**** battery
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According to all the rumors, the Nexus 6 will have a 3200+ mAh battery, i just hope the QHD display won't eat it too fast...
Way to big. Ordered a meizu mx4. Mostly for the camera. I still think that maybe to big.
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To me, N4 is a phone and N6 is not. 5.9" is just crazy, who knows, maybe Google brings something in normal screen size (5" or less) alongside N6.
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As suspected for a few months, we will probably have a 6" Nexus phone coming this fall.
As a Nexus 4 user i am reluctant to start using a 6" phone, but being a Nexus user since the Nexus One, and after talking to a few friends with the Note i am inclined to take a leap of faith.
What do you guy's think, let's post a few pros and cons so we all can make an informed buy.
Pros:
Better browsing and youtube experience;
Stop caring a tablet;
Possible massive battery.
Cons:
It won't fit all pockets;
Two hands usage;
Possible weight.
PS: let's skip the 5.2" vs 6" as it probably won't be happening.
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Pro's: performance (good enough for a couple of years, looking at the specs). Oh, and 4G in Europe.
Con's: size. A big screen sounds great, but portability and one-handed use.
Looks like the terminal will have excellent processing power and RAM plus a big battery so it'll be good for a couple of years, but like everyone else - will this thing fit in a trouser pocket and can it be used 1-handed?
That last point may well force the UI to offer options so that eg status bar can be positioned at the bottom/navbar on the bottom left or right (just saying). But it's a big piece of kit....
This thing doesn't even fit my backpack.
I'm a Brazilian without English Course, sorry and be comprehensive
I was ready for the switch, couldn't wait...but if the N6 is really gonna be that big I don't think I will buy it. It's too much of a jump from the N4 in terms of size.
If Google really comes out with just the 6 inches version, I think I will choose between the MotoX and the G3. Or maybe even an N5 if I will find one.
I actually think I'm gonna skip this one. As European guy I couldn't picture the size in inches(do it America, I beg you, switch to metric system like the rest of the world! ). Now seeing the two in comparison I must say that it's way too big for me. Nexus 4 is just about the right size, fits in the hand, you can control it with 1 hand. I never found myself wanting a tablet or phablet for that matter. It's phone, laptop or desktop pc for me. I like the keyboard very much to give it up
I'm definitely up for a bigger phone. My Nexus 4 is the biggest phone I've owned, and I'd love a big phablet to use at home for gaming and reading eBooks, and for traveling when I don't want to lug around my laptop. Obviously, I'll be keeping my Nexus 4 to use when I don't want a gigantic slab in my pocket (I want a Sony Z3 Compact for that, but that's several months away for me).
Maybe I'll even pick up a Nexus 5 when the price drops because the 6 is out.
One thing I'm wondering about the Nexus 6 is that, if it comes running Android L out of box, will we be able to "downgrade" it to 4.4.4 KitKat? Obviously, with previous Nexus phones, downgrading to a version prior to its release made no sense, but for those of us that love what the Xposed framework can do for us, I have a feeling 4.4.4 will be ported to the Nexus 6.
Rumor is there'll be a 32GB version for $419USD, and 64GB for $449. If that turns out to be the case, I'm only about $100-150 short of affording the 64GB, which I should be able to save by the time it's available in November.
If the phone does turn out to be 5.9" like most people suspect then I'm out.
I'll be a little disappointed as I was hoping to go from my N4 to an N6 but that screen is FAR too big. It's near enough phablet size and I want a phone not a phablet.
I'll probably just pick up an LG G2 instead. 5.2" is the perfect sized screen IMO.
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I was ready for the switch, couldn't wait...but if the N6 is really gonna be that big I don't think I will buy it. It's too much of a jump from the N4 in terms of size.
If Google really comes out with just the 6 inches version, I think I will choose between the MotoX and the G3. Or maybe even an N5 if I will find one.
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The G3 and MotoX are also my other options but i'm waiting for the price. If the Nexus 6 arrives with a decent price it's a hard choice.
Looks like the next Nexus won't be inheriting the good looks of the GNex/N4/N5 (mostly N4 lol). That's it, i'm out. Can always flash an AOSP Rom on a phone if I want the Nexii feel again.
I will switch when it comes down in price from Fido
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Looks like the next Nexus won't be inheriting the good looks of the GNex/N4/N5 (mostly N4 lol). That's it, i'm out. Can always flash an AOSP Rom on a phone if I want the Nexii feel again.
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You won't get the same experience even on AOSP, had a Galaxy S2 running CM and sold it after two months.
Lot's of bugs and frustration.

Hello! New Nexus 5 user.

Wow. I upgraded today from a Galaxy S3 to a Nexus 5. In my 4 hours of using this phome, I have loved every second. One complaint is the speakers. While playing San Amdreas, holding the device blocked the speakers. Any suggestions? Otherwise, this puts my S3 to shame. I called 3 different T-Mobile stores and only one of them in my area actually had one in stock. I was able to get this wonderful device for a mere $27 as the taxes are up front. Anyway, goodbye Scamsung Crapaxy S3. Hello Nexus 5. I say scam cuz
S3 at T-Mobile:$432
Nexus 5 at T-Mobile: $396
Yeah
You decide which is better.
gilberts555 said:
Wow. I upgraded today from a Galaxy S3 to a Nexus 5. In my 4 hours of using this phome, I have loved every second. One complaint is the speakers. While playing San Amdreas, holding the device blocked the speakers. Any suggestions? Otherwise, this puts my S3 to shame. I called 3 different T-Mobile stores and only one of them in my area actually had one in stock. I was able to get this wonderful device for a mere $27 as the taxes are up front. Anyway, goodbye Scamsung Crapaxy S3. Hello Nexus 5. I say scam cuz
S3 at T-Mobile:$432
Nexus 5 at T-Mobile: $396
Yeah
You decide which is better.
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The N5 a year later is still an amazing device. So amazing, that after selling my first one about 6 months ago, I ended up buying another one a month or so ago. The damn thing is fast as hell and buttery smooth, and performs just as well as anything else out there. You made a great purchase, and I hope you enjoy the heck out of it.
As far as the speakers are concerned, it's annoying but it is what it is. I'm used to it, because I'm also an iPhone user and they've always had the same problem. I've learned to adjust my grip so the speaker isn't covered, but it's still annoying. One thing I can recommend, is that you buy a Moga Pro Power controller. I have one for Android, and I also have the Moga Rebel for my iPhone 6, which is essentially the same thing. If you aren't familiar with it, it's just a game pad, but it has a built in clip to hold the phone. No speaker blockage, and gaming with a controller takes things to a completely different level. It works awesome with the N5 and good news for you- San Andreas has native support for it. Check it out- http://www.mogaanywhere.com/controllers/propower
I also hate how my hand covers the speaker when gaming in landscape mode. If I hold the phone so that doesn't happen, it just feels awkward. Other than that, loving this phone, still.
Welcome here! Quite an upgrade from an S3 I had one way back. The N5 is a superb phone imo. I've been on it since launch day and it continues to satisfy my gadget addiction even 1 year later! Enjoy it
Yeah. So much faster than an S3. Even with CM offsetting the crappiness of it. TouchWiz was too slow and unusable. I hope to have this device until I can buy a OnePlus One from T-Mobile. But that'll never happen. I can't believe how smooth and seamless everything is on this phone.
Thanks. I have heard of those controllers before. I will have to look into buying one eventually. I have a USB OTG cable so I can already use an Xbox controller if I want to.
I just upgraded from my Nexus 4 to Nexus 5 . . Don't regret that decision . . . The nexus 4 is still a decent device but I was itching to have the nexus 5 , lovely experience I've had with the n4 and the n5 enhances it further. Oneplus One will be my next upgrade or its successor because the chipset is 32bit and will not fully take advantage of L's 64bit support.
I had an htc one x tegra 3 which has cost me almost 45€ monthly. Now i have a n5 which is by a longshot better and have 30€ per month... Same data and call plan btw... Logic?
I had two GS4 which are hw damaged without any reason, couple days ago i buyed this device really can't complain on anything except cam recorder audio and some sw issues with my first installed rom(Mahdi).Also still can't believe what ppl on youtube saying for N5 battery life because for me it's better than on GS4.Really great device a lot of faster than Touchwiz.
slobo2712 said:
really can't complain on anything except cam recorder audio
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/general/mod-camcorder-audio-quality-fix-t2837930
this mod has helped a lot of us.
Get a refund, Nexus 5 is outdated, hold out for the Nexus 6
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While playing San Amdreas, holding the device blocked the speakers. Any suggestions?
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Turn phone 90degrees clockwise instead of counter clock wise. This way speaker is a the top making it less prone to being covered.
N5 has 1 speaker only. The other one is a microphone.
Use this app and those settings. Makes the phone a bit louder.
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I also had the Nexus 5, sold it and got the HTC One M8 (Amazing Phone), but came back to the Nexus 5 because there is waaaay more things to do with it.
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I don't want a 5.9 inch screen. The Nexus 5 serves me well for what I need to do. Besides, better than S3
dicecuber said:
Get a refund, Nexus 5 is outdated, hold out for the Nexus 6
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Don't be ridiculous, it's still an AMAZING device and well worth every penny.
dicecuber said:
Get a refund, Nexus 5 is outdated, hold out for the Nexus 6
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If nexus 5 is outdated...i guess 99% of the smartphones with soc older than sd800 are also outdated .....
Oh wait u have a nexus 6 ?
Using less than a day
Im just experiencing my first 24h of this amazing device. I was a bit confused between HTC One M7 ( must mention its look and build quality ) and N5, but the purple tint camera problem of M7 and the too damn high price point was ruined all of my expectation. Eventually bought the N5, 16G with Nillkin case and clear screen protector.
I was a Xperia Ray user for more than 2 years. Surely, no need to mention the performance and storage boost, but that Ray was a beauty I must say (still using it).
Im from Bangladesh. Here Nexus are not that available and we cant order it through any carrier. I want to check the IMEI for originality for this device. Is there any sort of website can do that online? Hoping to have the best from this device. Currently the plan is to use it like OTB for 1 or some months, after that will need to unlock it and see its full potential ( atleast for Viper).
C3C076 said:
Turn phone 90degrees clockwise instead of counter clock wise. This way speaker is a the top making it less prone to being covered.
N5 has 1 speaker only. The other one is a microphone.
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+1. No more blockage issue for me ever since I started doing this many months ago. Most games/apps should auto rotate accordingly.
C3C076 said:
Turn phone 90degrees clockwise instead of counter clock wise. This way speaker is a the top making it less prone to being covered.
N5 has 1 speaker only. The other one is a microphone.
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Reminds me of one of the funniest threads of all time: http://forum.xda-developers.com/goo...d-easy-fix-muffled-speaker-landscape-t2555496
I prefer my S2 Hercules to the S3. Lol My M8 had to get sent in for warranty repair and I was given an unrooted of course, S3 as a loaner. Was a brutal downgrade. Lol
My rooted S2 danced circles around the S3. So yes, going from an S3 to an N5 would be a great upgrade! Enjoy! ?

Should I stay or Should I go?

So. I am going on 3 years with the Turbo. I love this phone. Everything about it (Wish we had a custom N rom with VoLTE but that is it). I have a 64 and a 32gb back up (currently running 32 as 64 being stupid) and only one good screen between the two.
My wife has the Pixel XL which I do like, but the three things that keep me tied to this phone are: Hardware Home Keys, the IR sensors is a HUGE must after having this phone, and the Chop/twist which i'm sure there is an app for on other phones and she keeps telling me the phone isn't going to last forever XD
I just see the forums here dwindle down to almost nothing the past few months so makes me wonder how many people have moved on. I honestly don't care for the the new Moto phones. Too light, don't like the look or feel, its just meh. The attachments seem cool but don't need them. With the Pixel 2 out now and that will drive the Pixel 1 price down it makes me wonder if I should get one (Through google of course because i wanted my unlocked BL and Root) but I just can't seem to give this phone up! Both of these guys are having issues and i'm determined to fix them this weekened. Wouldn't mind buying another screen or even another phone if i had the 100 bucks. I'd rather buy a few backups than a new phone.
I just wanted to see what everyone's opinion is. Do you still have a Turbo. If you don't what did you move to and if you do how is working for you and do you plan on getting rid upgrading soon? Because honestly this phone is still powerful for what I do.
The Quark was cutting edge back end of 2014 and until this year, and I seriously mean until this year (2017) there wasn't anything released that really surpassed it. Sure there were phones with iteratively faster CPUs each year -- but until this year with Snapdragon 835 and phones coming with standard 4GB RAM (and some 6GB RAM), the 2014 Quark 3GB RAM still ruled even if it had the older Snapdragon 805. Plus all the hardware specs it has -- 1440p AMOLED, Qi wireless charging, 3900 mAh battery, 64GB internal memory (on my XT1225), 21MP camera (even though it has no rear camera OIS) kept it competitive with newcomers the past couple of years.
But the 2017 Snapdragon 835 is really a "next gen" CPU chipset however, not only with speed but with the 1 gigabit LTE speed modem.
In 2015, I won an AT&T LG G4 in a contest but sold it on eBay to buy a 3rd Quark for backup purposes. The 1440p LG G4 had a faster Snapdragon 808 CPU (and I added a Qi wireless back cover), but overall just didn't have all the features of the Quark. If the Quark didn't exist, that LG G4 would have been my favorite phone -- but I still would have sold that one to get a bootloader unlocked variant.
There's a thread discussing all this over in the other Quark forum -- 2017 phones that we were looking forward to as possible replacements. We were going by leaks and rumors, and anticipated FANTASTIC phones! As the year went on, the phones actually released and were mostly disappointing (Z2 Force with no headset jack, OnePlus 5 with still mid-tier specs, Nokia with locked down bootloader) and the thread updated, it's basically come down to the LG V30 for me. For @TheSt33v, he's leaning toward the Pixel XL 2 (in spite of no headset jack). Many others participated too, of course. The thread lists all our criteria and why we are deciding on these phones.
You know:
1440p AMOLED
Qi wireless charging
headset jack
easily unlocked bootloader
at least 64GB internal memory
at least 4GB RAM, preferably 6GB
etc.
NEW Phones to replace 2014 Quark (Droid Turbo/Moto Turbo/Moto Maxx)?
So, probably going to buy the LG V30 in about 3 months -- AFTER the U.S. carrier unlocked version is released (mid-November) AND it gets added to the LG bootloader unlock list (probaby end of December). I'm not going to buy a phone I can't root on Day 1. I've already sold my 3rd still-new-in box Moto XT1225 on Swappa a couple of weeks ago. It was for emergency backup purposes, but now clearing the decks. I've already bought some LG V30 cases in anticipation.
My wife will still keep her Moto XT1225 as she still loves it, and still runs good. So, I'll still be in the Quark forums besides the V30.
The only reason I wouldn't buy the LG V30 is if the rumored ZTE Axon 9 (the successor to the 2016 ZTE Axon 7) just really nails all my wants and needs. Like if it's the LG V30 + stereo speakers. Supposedly will be announced in October, and the ZTE Axon 7 has been out of stock on the ZTE USA website for a few weeks now.
same here with both of you.
my next phone needs to have the quarks best features (Qi wireless charging, sensors for wave to wake, 3900 mAh battery) plus unlockable or at least rootable from day 1, and 3.5mm headphone jack (although this will not be the dealbreaker, but everything else prior is).
I'm willing to bet that we'll see Oreo (custom) on the quark before we see a device that is at least equivalent in specs.
but as of now, I'm content with CF MM ROM + xposed + GB + Oreo Launcher.
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same here with both of you.
my next phone needs to have the quarks best features (Qi wireless charging, sensors for wave to wake, 3900 mAh battery) plus unlockable or at least rootable from day 1, and 3.5mm headphone jack (although this will not be the dealbreaker, but everything else prior is).
I'm willing to bet that we'll see Oreo (custom) on the quark before we see a device that is at least equivalent in specs.
but as of now, I'm content with CF MM ROM + xposed + GB + Oreo Launcher.
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Battery was a big deal for me too, and the Pixel XL 2's battery doesn't quite make it (3520 mAh), but it's pretty close. I'm okay with it because it quick charges. I'm also a fan of wave to wake, which is why I'm looking forward to the Pixel XL 2's always-on display. I won't even need to wave anymore!
I'm glad you brought up Oreo roms, because this is the number one reason I went Pixel. Our devs do their best with what they have, but imagine a world where you could get AOSP roms on day 1 of official release that are made by professional developers that have access to 100% of the source code, including the proprietary stuff. This feature is a Pixel exclusive. Imagine being able to get monthly security updates on a reliable basis. And even when it runs out, even when it's not officially supported anymore, Google devices have been, and likely always will be, the devices that get the most support from the community.
That Oreo rom you're waiting for? I put it on my Nexus 4 weeks ago. That's right, Nexus 4. A phone released in 2012 gets upgraded to the latest Android version in 2017. And what hoops did I have to jump through to get unofficial roms running on my phone? fastboot oem unlock. That's it. That's why I'm willing to make a few hardware compromises for a Google phone. And in my opinion, there really aren't that many compromises that I need to make.
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Battery was a big deal for me too, and the Pixel XL 2's battery doesn't quite make it (3520 mAh), but it's pretty close. I'm okay with it because it quick charges. I'm also a fan of wave to wake, which is why I'm looking forward to the Pixel XL 2's always-on display. I won't even need to wave anymore!
I'm glad you brought up Oreo roms, because this is the number one reason I went Pixel. Our devs do their best with what they have, but imagine a world where you could get AOSP roms on day 1 of official release that are made by professional developers that have access to 100% of the source code, including the proprietary stuff. This feature is a Pixel exclusive. Imagine being able to get monthly security updates on a reliable basis. And even when it runs out, even when it's not officially supported anymore, Google devices have been, and likely always will be, the devices that get the most support from the community.
That Oreo rom you're waiting for? I put it on my Nexus 4 weeks ago. That's right, Nexus 4. A phone released in 2012 gets upgraded to the latest Android version in 2017. And what hoops did I have to jump through to get unofficial roms running on my phone? fastboot oem unlock. That's it. That's why I'm willing to make a few hardware compromises for a Google phone. And in my opinion, there really aren't that many compromises that I need to make.
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all valid points and understood.
but at the end of the day, it just comes down to personal taste - and in the absence of a perfect scenario, we all have to make compromises.
the XL is too big for me. in fact, the quark is almost too big as it is.
plus, but I don't want to sacrifice hardware. as of now, the quark is still the best option for me. even if the battery dies, I may end up getting a new battery rather than getting a new device...
jco23 said:
all valid points and understood.
but at the end of the day, it just comes down to personal taste - and in the absence of a perfect scenario, we all have to make compromises.
the XL is too big for me. in fact, the quark is almost too big as it is.
plus, but I don't want to sacrifice hardware. as of now, the quark is still the best option for me. even if the battery dies, I may end up getting a new battery rather than getting a new device...
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Yes, the Pixel XL 2 is a much bigger phone than the LG V30.
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with Quark for size comparison:
But if you want to read through the specs differences, here you go:
SPECS: QUARK vs LG V30 vs PIXEL 2 XL
This year especially brought a lot of changes. One year to the next, not so much. But cumulatively, 3 years, it adds up.
For instance, cameras....
Aperture size (smaller is better)
Quark: F2.0
LG V30: F1.6
Pixel 2 XL: F1.8
Hardware Features
Quark: Autofocus
LG V30: Dual-camera (13-megapixel, 120-degree viewing angle, F1.9 aperture), Optical image stabilization, Autofocus (Laser, Phase detection)
Pixel 2 XL: Optical image stabilization, Autofocus (Laser, Phase detection)
Motorola should have included rear camera OIS on our Quarks like they did the Motorola Nexus 6. That remains a sore point with me. I had it on my 2013 LG Nexus 5, and it was on the 2014 Moto Nexus 6 -- so it's not like Motorola didn't know how to do it. (Motorola was owned by Google at the time of design of both the Quark and the Moto Nexus 6.) By late 2014, rear camera OIS was a standard feature of premium phones and the Quark was a premium phone.
And while dual cameras is not necessary, it's nice to be able to choose between wide angle lens or normal for certain shots.
Torn Between LG V30 and Google Pixel 2 XL? Me Too…
LG V30 or Google Pixel 2 XL? LG V30 or Google Pixel 2 XL? LG V30 or Google Pixel 2 XL? I just CANNOT decide.
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I've already made up my mind, but interesting article.
TheSt33v said:
Battery was a big deal for me too, and the Pixel XL 2's battery doesn't quite make it (3520 mAh), but it's pretty close. I'm okay with it because it quick charges. I'm also a fan of wave to wake, which is why I'm looking forward to the Pixel XL 2's always-on display. I won't even need to wave anymore!
I'm glad you brought up Oreo roms, because this is the number one reason I went Pixel. Our devs do their best with what they have, but imagine a world where you could get AOSP roms on day 1 of official release that are made by professional developers that have access to 100% of the source code, including the proprietary stuff. This feature is a Pixel exclusive. Imagine being able to get monthly security updates on a reliable basis. And even when it runs out, even when it's not officially supported anymore, Google devices have been, and likely always will be, the devices that get the most support from the community.
That Oreo rom you're waiting for? I put it on my Nexus 4 weeks ago. That's right, Nexus 4. A phone released in 2012 gets upgraded to the latest Android version in 2017. And what hoops did I have to jump through to get unofficial roms running on my phone? fastboot oem unlock. That's it. That's why I'm willing to make a few hardware compromises for a Google phone. And in my opinion, there really aren't that many compromises that I need to make.
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just read/watch that video about the Augmented Reality - looked very cool!
but again, the XL is too large, and the regular's battery is only 2700 mAh, with still no Qi. I may be sold on the wireless headphones, as both times at the gym this weekend, the cord did bother me.... but I don't have to get a new phone to solve that....
There's finally some topics not involving bootloader and rooting.
I agree that the droid turbo is still very competitive in terms of hardware spec, although it is not very promising to see many new firmware any more. I think it is not so much that droid turbo has a high-end spec, but is due to the fact that the android ecosystem has somehow reached a peak, that products only compete on CPU speed, camera and screen pixels, like the PCs some ten years ago. Products are very similar at its core, some are better in CPU, while some are better in camera or battery, but none of them can give a clear win on all aspect or really inspire users with new usage. I therefore don't see any of the recent products that is outstanding and can catch my attention.
While I am fully satisfy with the droid turbo, its battery starts worrying me. Its drop in performance becomes significant, and since I live in Hong Kong which the droid is not officially sold or supported, I don't even have a way to replace the battery. When I bought the device, I planned to use it for three years before I consider upgrading, which should be July 2018, but I am not very optimistic now I can wait that long. Its even sadder as it was due to battery rather than the device itself.
Anyway, it's nice to see the forum still have some firm supporters that I can count on when I have problem. I am not leaving this device and forum any time soon, but it's hard to tell.
Liking my Turbo's performance as well. The newer phones are just bigger and flashier. Already replaced the battery, and when it dies, and I can't find a reasonable replacement, I'll be dragged, kicking and screaming, to get a new phone. Hopefully, sizes will have stabilized...or even shrunk slightly.
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Einsteindks said:
Liking my Turbo's performance as well. The newer phones are just bigger and flashier. Already replaced the battery, and when it dies, and I can't find a reasonable replacement, I'll be dragged, kicking and screaming, to get a new phone. Hopefully, sizes will have stabilized...or even shrunk slightly.
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Is that what she said?
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