When I first customized my OP5 settings under OOS 4.5.0 (before the last two OTAs) there was a "Proximity Wake" toggle under "Settings->Display-Ambient display". The feature allowed you to wave your hand near the OP5 and the display lit up briefly so you could see the lock screen. See "How to Enable Proximity Wake" and the accompanying YouTube demo.
Since the first and second OTA that option has been replaced with an "Lift up display" toggle. I'd much rather the proximity Wake feature or better yet, both.
Does anyone know why that feature was replaced? Did it not work reliably?
It's possible it was using too much battery power.
In an effort to save battery the setting was lost on the wayside...
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It's possible it was using too much battery power.
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ultramag69 said:
It's possible it was using too much battery power.
In an effort to save battery the setting was lost on the wayside...
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A reasonable assertion but maybe they should've let the functionality be limited to "while on charger" like other battery sucking features. Thanks for your input.
All the Moto phones have this including the the Moto Z play and it has the longest battery life of just about any phone. This a a great feature and one of the reasons I bought a OP5 . Can't believe they just got rid of it.
Maybe if enough people complain it will be put back in by another Ota. One plus do seem to at least listen to the Dev community. ..
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A reasonable assertion but maybe they should've let the functionality be limited to "while on charger" like other battery sucking features. Thanks for your input.
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Yeah this was a great feature I had on my Nokia 1020, if it was causing battery drain on the OP5 then put an alert when you toggle it that it will have a direct impact on the battery life. Crisis averted then.
Ambient display in general is sort of weird on this phone. It doesn't exactly do what I thought it would. Maybe the removal of this feature is one of the reasons. But with the notification light so dim (maybe this can be altered with a mod or future ROM, I hope), the live display aspect is sort of needed. Is there a post on the OP forums on this yet? Someone should make one.
This is something I really miss from my old Moto
If you are rooted, there is a workaround to have proximity wake enabled. Instructions are provided in this thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-5/how-to/guide-how-to-enable-ambient-display-t3690488/page4
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Is there a way to turn off the flicky wrist screen on thing on my G watch R? I use the "always-on screen" feature and dont need the display to light up fully every time i look at the watch....!
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If you mute it, it turns that off. But then it is muted so I do not know if that is any good to you.
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If you mute it, it turns that off. But then it is muted so I do not know if that is any good to you.
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Well i would still like to get the notification vibration, but its a start...!!
Thanks!
Best regards/ Henke
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Well i would still like to get the notification vibration, but its a start...!!
Thanks!
Best regards/ Henke
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Most people seem to be using always on. Why? if you list your hand to look it comes on. It will make the battery last for a shorter time and what about screen burn? I may just be overthinking this.
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Most people seem to be using always on. Why? if you list your hand to look it comes on. It will make the battery last for a shorter time and what about screen burn? I may just be overthinking this.
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ive done some playing around with screen always on / off and it really doesnt seem to make that much difference to battery 6:30am - 10:30pm and i have 50% battery left with screen always on. u might be able to get a few more % having it off but i didnt notice much difference in testing.
not sure about screen burn tho...
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Most people seem to be using always on. Why? if you list your hand to look it comes on. It will make the battery last for a shorter time and what about screen burn? I may just be overthinking this.
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I am worried about the screen burn-in issue. The phone based on the same P-OLED display technology G Flex suffers from this problem. I can see that the quality of GWaR's panel is improved but the burn in problem should exist as long as it's oled.
Another small thing I noticed is when you use stock watch faces, their always on screen content will randomly shift a little every minute, to avoid screen burn(so LG is aware of this problem). Thus worrying about the screen burn is not over-thinking. I turned off the always-on function when I use 3rd party watch faces. (EDIT: 3rd-party watch faces can shift itself too, seems like it's a system-wide screen saving mechanism)
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(EDIT: 3rd-party watch faces can shift itself too, seems like it's a system-wide screen saving mechanism)
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yes, it is - the Samsung Gear Live has the same feature - lets hope it helps in the long run...
Yeees
This is doing my head in, whats the point in an always on ambient mode, if the bloody thing turns on every time i move my arm. Pointless.
And mute it to stop it, then makes wearing it pointless?
This needs to be addressed asap!
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Is there a way to turn off the flicky wrist screen on thing on my G watch R? I use the "always-on screen" feature and dont need the display to light up fully every time i look at the watch....!
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This is doing my head in, whats the point in an always on ambient mode, if the bloody thing turns on every time i move my arm. Pointless.
And mute it to stop it, then makes wearing it pointless?
This needs to be addressed asap!
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Well, the darn thing dosn't always turn on when i look at my watch, and i like the way it looks when always on, and don't want an all black display when others look at my Beutiful watch...!!! ??
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Well, the darn thing dosn't always turn on when i look at my watch, and i like the way it looks when always on, and don't want an all black display when others look at my Beutiful watch...!!! ??
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LOL I think you misunderstood my post. I am in 100% agreement with both of you in that we need to be able to disable the "auto on" behavior without muting notifications.
Merely expressing my agreement...
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LOL I think you misunderstood my post. I am in 100% agreement with both of you in that we need to be able to disable the "auto on" behavior without muting notifications.
Merely expressing my agreement...
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+1 ??? Sorry for that.. Always read too quickly for my own good..!! ?
Just got my watch yesterday and this is also making me crazy... That's why I came to the forum in the first place. We need a setting to turn off the wake up movement gesture
Same thing here, it should be a fundamental control to turn this feature off. I'm a little worried about battery life on mine too, for some reason I'm just barely squeaking 24 hours on a full charge with no more than 12 notifications per day???
Patience my friends. Apparently there is a new update on the way, some lollipop for wear which has this much needed feature implemented.
More details here: http://phandroid.com/2014/11/11/android-wear-5-0-lollipop-features-revealed-smartwatch/
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Patience my friends. Apparently there is a new update on the way, some lollipop for wear which has this much needed feature implemented.
More details here: http://phandroid.com/2014/11/11/android-wear-5-0-lollipop-features-revealed-smartwatch/
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Are you referring to "Theater Mode"? That turns the screen off. We want the screen to be on but in the dim state.
I'm referring to this:
Ever since I met the LED notification, I've fallen in love with it and I'm sad to see that the Nexus 6 is leaving it out. Since it has an AMOLED screen, I'm thinking what would it be like battery life wise if I left the display on to always show notifications (if there is one)?
well.... with Ambient Display, the screen will pulse on every so often with just enough pixels to show the notifications you have (or at least that's how i'm understanding it'll work).
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well.... with Ambient Display, the screen will pulse on every so often with just enough pixels to show the notifications you have (or at least that's how i'm understanding it'll work).
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i think that's how it works as well but most of the time, i'm not near my phone and i just want a quick glance over to see if there are any notifications.
It's hard to say, really. I'm running one of the AOSP Lollipop builds on my Nexus 5 right now... but can't exactly compare that to the Nexus 6, since the N5 doesn't use an AMOLED screen. Every time i see Ambient Display turn on, the entire backlight is on, too.
With that said.... even with an AMOLED screen, i can't imagine leaving the screen on constantly being a good thing for battery life.
Hopefully there's at least a charging led someone can hack to use as regular led. Worked before...
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Hopefully there's at least a charging led someone can hack to use as regular led. Worked before...
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Does someone have information about that? Is there any charging LED?
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Does someone have information about that? Is there any charging LED?
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I went through a bunch of videos, but none of them show charging so far..
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I went through a bunch of videos, but none of them show charging so far..
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I don't believe it does, at least by default. The Moto X has an LED behind the earpiece, which you can see a picture of here but it isn't a charging light by default. With root you can change that.
If this holds true for the Nexus 6, I don't know. No teardowns of the Nexus 6 yet, or hands on with the device showing this functionality. Even if it doesn't have this light. I am sure there will be a way to use the display to get this info across.
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I don't believe it does, at least by default. The Moto X has an LED behind the earpiece, which you can see a picture of here but it isn't a charging light by default. With root you can change that.
If this holds true for the Nexus 6, I don't know. No teardowns of the Nexus 6 yet, or hands on with the device showing this functionality. Even if it doesn't have this light. I am sure there will be a way to use the display to get this info across.
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Yeah I was reading this about the Moto x also. Hopefully it kept that design too.
Hi devs!
Since i have this phone iam searching the function for double-tap to wake-up feature.
Esp, cause the previous models had this feature.
I've been through a few launchers and a few apps, but it seems with a fingerprint-sensor this feature has become unavailable?
Any people here managed to double-tap to wake-up their device?
Thanks in advance!
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Hi devs!
Since i have this phone iam searching the function for double-tap to wake-up feature.
Esp, cause the previous models had this feature.
I've been through a few launchers and a few apps, but it seems with a fingerprint-sensor this feature has become unavailable?
Any people here managed to double-tap to wake-up their device?
Thanks in advance!
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Sorry to say but that incredibly useful feature is missing from the XZ1c. It's not just a software thing, I believe it's missing at a hardware level. So either the screen is different or the kernel doesn't support it.
Wave up is a way of opening and closing the screen and has had some good reviews from XDA members.
Thanks for your reply.
Let's see if i can get used to this and finetune it a little.
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Sorry to say but that incredibly useful feature is missing from the XZ1c. It's not just a software thing, I believe it's missing at a hardware level. So either the screen is different or the kernel doesn't support it.
Wave up is a way of opening and closing the screen and has had some good reviews from XDA members.
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I'm giving a shot myself with this app... It seems working great... Only doubt of course is the battery draining... Let's see after a few days of testing...
P. S. So Wave Up is for the waving hands thing... What about double tap to wake?
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I'm giving a shot myself with this app... It seems working great... Only doubt of course is the battery draining... Let's see after a few days of testing...
P. S. So Wave Up is for the waving hands thing... What about double tap to wake?
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Double tap to wake likely needs lower level support that isn't possible with a mere app.
BTW, I've been using the Wave Up app for months, did not notice any battery drain.
I personally love the wake screen after removing from pocket feature, it works like a charm and so handy to have. I now wonder how I lived for so long without it.
Also, you don't need to actually wave your whole hand, just flick a finger 2 or 3 times over the sensor area and boom. Although I'd still prefer DTTW, it's a great compromise.
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Double tap to wake likely needs lower level support that isn't possible with a mere app.
BTW, I've been using the Wave Up app for months, did not notice any battery drain.
I personally love the wake screen after removing from pocket feature, it works like a charm and so handy to have. I now wonder how I lived for so long without it.
Also, you don't need to actually wave your whole hand, just flick a finger 2 or 3 times over the sensor area and boom. Although I'd still prefer DTTW, it's a great compromise.
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Yeah, I saw WaveUp recommended on XDA too and used it after trying and disliking Gravity Screen. It's been fantastic, and I actually don't notice a lot of battery drain from it either. I sometimes end up double-tapping the proximity sensor. That generally works pretty well. Sometimes even better than waving.
Just a little update about WaveUp.
Definitely, a must have for XZ1 Compact owners. ?????????????????. After a few days of testing I can confirm it has almost zero impact to battery (I can't notice any difference, in fact it doesnt even shown on Setting's Battery usage) but once u use it... U can't stay without it anymore!
I really i don't understand why Sony didn't include this functionality out of the box...
I am using Gravity Screen to wake my phone using the proximity sensor, but I noticed it keeps the sensor ON all the time even when the phone is locked. I think this is what WaveUp do as well. I'm kind of concerned with the sensor being awake all the time that it might affect the lifespan of the sensor and get damaged fast. I hope SONY put back that double tap to wake.
Hello, is there any app that turn on display when new notification is arriving?
WaveUp is really good!
Thanks to everybody for the suggestion!
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Hello, is there any app that turn on display when new notification is arriving?
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Might be a late reply, but an app called Glimpse Notifications does exactly what you want.
Update: WaveUp works, but can be annoying when cleaning the screen.
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Hello, is there any app that turn on display when new notification is arriving?
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I am using "Glimpse Notification"
They do it on purpose, they always take something away and then put it back in the next model. But the next model will miss a different detail, and so on ...
AOD is a useless battery drain in comparison to ambient display
I wish they would switch to ambient..
Is there a way to get ambient on stock rom without root?
Doubt it.. maybe you can mimickor do it using tasker?
Have a look here...
AOD is not inherently bad for battery life, not if it is done properly and is on AMOLED.
Any black you see is not causing power to drain and if you haven't done anything silly with AOD wallpapers or anything like that then the battery life that the clock, date and notifications takes up is minimal anyway - an ambient display could actually end up being a bigger drain (again depending on how it is actually set up) as it requires the phone to process something every so often as well as lighting up some of the screen.
I think it would be nice to have both options to choose from, ambient or AOD
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AOD is not inherently bad for battery life, not if it is done properly and is on AMOLED.
Any black you see is not causing power to drain and if you haven't done anything silly with AOD wallpapers or anything like that then the battery life that the clock, date and notifications takes up is minimal anyway - an ambient display could actually end up being a bigger drain (again depending on how it is actually set up) as it requires the phone to process something every so often as well as lighting up some of the screen.
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I second this as correct and will add that it also has been proven that the displayed images shift pixels as not to cause screen burn
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I think it would be nice to have both options to choose from, ambient or AOD
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more options are always better but i had a OP5T for a few days and they only thing i truly miss on note 8 is that ambient display and fast and well placed fingerprint scanner on OP5T
ho and its face unlock is also blazingly fast
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more options are always better but i had a OP5T for a few days and they only thing i truly miss on note 8 is that ambient display and fast and well placed fingerprint scanner on OP5T
ho and its face unlock is also blazingly fast
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Totally agree and also the software significantly faster and less laggy on the 5T...
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Totally agree and also the software significantly faster and less laggy on the 5T...
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i stayed with note8 only cus i love the camera and all its features more but OP5T was insanely fast and smooth also battery life were better
i hope Oreo update for note 8 speed things up and improve the battery
i didnt stay with modified clean android because its a bit boring and you need many apps to make up for all the missing samsung quirks and features
but main reason i didnt stay with the OP5T was that it didn't work as well as my note 8 when using the gear s3 and a helmet bt headset together
on note i have them both connected as phone and can switch the audio easily when calling
OP5T got the audio switching option in oreo update but he cant take 2 devices as phone and switch between them when calling
Hi everyone, I recently bought a S21 Ultra Exynos version. I previously installed BetterBatteryStats app to monitor for any battery drain.
There's an issue that from what I have searched, a few users are having. When my phone is on standby on a flat surface the battery drain is minimal or roughly 1-2% overnight
However, when my phone is in my pocket and when I'm walking, something is activating (possilby the proximity sensor?) the wakelock "cameraservice_worker" that causes the phone to drain battery even without touching it. I also did some testing and this process also runs in the background whenever I'm shaking my phone around instead of letting it lie still on a table top.
I have tried factory resetting and disabling multiple settings, but none seem to be able to work.
Below is a screenshot of BBS to show what I mean under partial wakelocks
This is causing my phone's battery to drain much faster than normal when in my pocket compared to when lying still on a table. Anyone here has similar issues?
These links also show a similar problem, but no one seems to be able to find a solution.
Standby battery drain when active
I've noticed since owning my phone that when I'm walking around in the day, my phone dies quicker than when I have a day where I'm more static. I've tried deleting apps and did a full reset but the problem still existed. I did some research and tried turning off loads of different settings and...
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Are Exynos Users Getting Bad Standby Drain?
Hi All, Is anyone getting really bad standby drain on the Exynos version? Soon as I take the phone off 100% charge within minutes of checking it again it falls down to 98% with nothing running or in the background. Last night while I slept for 8...
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So I have seen this as well, I think it's driven by how doze works - basically there is light and deep doze, and apps will be restricted from accessing data etc. until scheduled maintenance windows.
If you are moving, then the phone will only ever be in light doze (less restrictions, more maintenance windows, more drain). Without knowing what it does, I would hazard a guess that it's something that is blocked in 'deep doze.'
Worth giving Naptime a shot - it forces your phone to doze almost immediately, and you can turn off motion detection to stop your phone waking up.
That said I haven't tested it whilst out and about (turning off motion detection basically does light doze with all the rules of deep doze), so not sure if it will help with that particular wakelock.
Okay I'll try naptime out. Thanks!
Does your phone also have the same problem?
Yea same 'problem' - as in I think it's by design, your phone assumes it's in use so pings for more location updates etc. when moving, and I have cameraservice_worker as my biggest wakelock (haven't checked it overnight when phone is stationary, so will give that a go). I lose about 0.5% an hour without AOD overnight.
What I j haven't really looked at is 4g moving around drain vs WiFi moving around. Obviously stuck in the house atm battery is great, but phone is stationary a lot more than usual. Likely that moving around and on mobile data will make a big difference.
You'll need ADB to use naptime but it's easy enough to do (assuming you used it for BBS)
Did a quick experiment, looks like naptime doesn't stop the wakelock, even with motion detection turned off. Moving the phone I got the wakelock, leaving it still I didn't. (Turning motion detection off in naptime requires it to stay in light doze, but with the parameters of deep doze).
I'll keep it on just to see if it works but otherwise not to sure what you can do about it.
Still worth having as it's near instant doze as soon as you turn off your screen
Yeah same here.. having naptime with motion detection disabled still triggers the wakelock. It's annoying how my standby can be so great when it's on the table, but the moments it's in my pocket the standby drain is noticeably faster.
Hope it gets fixed in those newer updates
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Yeah same here.. having naptime with motion detection disabled still triggers the wakelock. It's annoying how my standby can be so great when it's on the table, but the moments it's in my pocket the standby drain is noticeably faster.
Hope it gets fixed in those newer updates
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Have you tried turning off tap to wake or anything like that? That's the only other logical thing I can think of?
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Have you tried turning off tap to wake or anything like that? That's the only other logical thing I can think of?
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I haven't tried turning off tap to wake yet.. will try it and see
Other options I have disabled like turning off lift to wake, pocket detection, fingerprint scanner off when display off. But still the wakelock is there
Had a quick flick through reddit, looks like it might be something to do with proximity sensor and how it uses the camera, which I guess makes some sense, although might have expected pocket detection to stop it.
I wonder if it is misbehaving or if it's a 'normal' service.
On a side note, any noticeable battery improvements from having the scanner off when screen is off? don't really use it
I noticed this last week too and have been trying to find more reports about it. It's also happening to the Note 20 Ultra, seems to be related to the variable refresh rate.
FWIW - i disabled sensors (Dev options > dev quick tiles > sensors off) the wakelocks stop. Just hoping someonee can figure out if there's a service we can disable without causing any issues.
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Had a quick flick through reddit, looks like it might be something to do with proximity sensor and how it uses the camera, which I guess makes some sense, although might have expected pocket detection to stop it.
I wonder if it is misbehaving or if it's a 'normal' service.
On a side note, any noticeable battery improvements from having the scanner off when screen is off? don't really use it
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Hmm unfortunately turning off pocket detection also doesn't stop the wakelock from triggering. I've tried just about everything but no success.. hopefully it'll get better in the newer updates. I'm still on January update
Oh I think leaving the fingerprint scanner always on/off doesn't seem to have a noticeable impact
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I noticed this last week too and have been trying to find more reports about it. It's also happening to the Note 20 Ultra, seems to be related to the variable refresh rate.
FWIW - i disabled sensors (Dev options > dev quick tiles > sensors off) the wakelocks stop. Just hoping someonee can figure out if there's a service we can disable without causing any issues.
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Yeah I came across some of the note 20 ultra threads... no one can seem to find a solution there either.
Haha I tried the disabling sensors workaround.. I'll report back and see if that helps. But at the moment feels weird not having the camera work without having to re-enable sensors first
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But at the moment feels weird not having the camera work without having to re-enable sensors first
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haha I'd be curious how you go with all the other stuff like proximity, ambient light sensors etc are off. Camera was my only test with it, it failed, so turned sensors straight back on.
So I was having a think, if it is a bug rather than normal operation, wondered if it could be the OIS moving around and triggering something when the device is moving? Will do adb permissions for GSAM on my S10 and see if the same thing happens
I installed GSAM on my partner's S20+ and no sign of this wakelock anywhere. Definitely seems limited to the later models Note20 ultra and S21 ultra. Not even sure if the S21 or S21+ are experiencing it.
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Hmm unfortunately turning off pocket detection also doesn't stop the wakelock from triggering. I've tried just about everything but no success.. hopefully it'll get better in the newer updates. I'm still on January update
Oh I think leaving the fingerprint scanner always on/off doesn't seem to have a noticeable impact
Yeah I came across some of the note 20 ultra threads... no one can seem to find a solution there either.
Haha I tried the disabling sensors workaround.. I'll report back and see if that helps. But at the moment feels weird not having the camera work without having to re-enable sensors first
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Have you raised it with the support team on samsung members? going to submit a bug report tonight after using the phone all day so they can see some usage.
It's the sort of thing that average users wouldn't be able to report because they just wouldn't be aware
Just when I was thinking I'm one of the lucky ones, I see this wakelock under BBS...oh rats! I don't think samsung members would be of much help and if I do post BBS screenshots there, I'm sure there will be a load of crackpots saying that this app could be causing this issue yadi yadi yaa...
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Have you raised it with the support team on samsung members? going to submit a bug report tonight after using the phone all day so they can see some usage.
It's the sort of thing that average users wouldn't be able to report because they just wouldn't be aware
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No I haven't.. I'm wasn't really sure where to report this because it doesn't seem like a widespread issue.
But hmm you're right maybe it's because the average user isn't even aware that their phones are draining battery more in their pockets, and probably even less aware that this wakelock even exists
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No I haven't.. I'm wasn't really sure where to report this because it doesn't seem like a widespread issue.
But hmm you're right maybe it's because the average user isn't even aware that their phones are draining battery more in their pockets, and probably even less aware that this wakelock even exists
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Yea exactly, I think you'd need to be using ADB commands (BBS, GSAM etc.) to even see that level of detail, and I reckon 95% of users don't know what they are
FYI - no such wakelock on my S10 running OneUI 3.1
Comrades, this issue a grave issue and will surely wreak havoc on the battery...This issue has to go global. It wasn't present on AUB6 and I have every mind to downgrade to AUB6 until this issue is fixed in the next update
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Comrades, this issue a grave issue and will surely wreak havoc on the battery...This issue has to go global. It wasn't present on AUB6 and I have every mind to downgrade to AUB6 until this issue is fixed in the next update
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Pretty sure I had it in aub6 tbh