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...amazing hardware! I got my N5 a couple of days ago (bought at launch hour, used comGateway to forward it to India, takes time ) and so far I've been playing with it non-stop (have a few exams prep leaves ), and here are my impressions so far.
My background: I'm a huge Nexus fanboy, I own (or have owned) every Nexus device with the exception of Nexus Q and currently possess fully working Galaxy Nexus (16GB), Nexus 4 (16GB), Nexus 7 (2012, 16GB) and Nexus 7 (2013, 32GB) all bought more or less at launch along with a Galaxy Note and Galaxy S2. My device before was my N4 bought at launch and it was great, but I can't simply skip my temptation to get the new N5, so I did. I don't care about the price, I can very well afford a phone far more expensive. I buy Nexus devices because I love the pure stock experience they bring, it just somehow feels better to me.
Note: I've been using N4 exclusively before this for almost a year, so all my views are in relation to it.
My device: White Nexus 5, 32GB. Pure stock with an unlocked bootloader and rooted.
The Good:
Bigger, better screen! The screen is taller without being (much) wider, and it's gorgeous! I know some people are saying colours are washed out etc, but that's just the IPS display which I'm used to, plus when colour control gets modded into kernels that won't be much of a problem. It's a lot sharper than my N4 and definitely brighter]
Performance! It has the highest binned Snapdragon 800! Need I say more? It can smoke anything out their
Storage is a welcome improvement, sometimes I had to choose between games on my N4 but with double the storage I don't have that problem (atleast for a while )
Camera is a lot more improved than the one on N4, I haven't tested it too thoroughly but it's definitely improved especially in low light conditions
KitKat and GEL are a welcome change, I like the subtle UI improvements and I love the fact that BT audio and software audio levels are not two different things anymore, that used to drive me crazy
I love the white version's looks and build, I was torn what to get when purchasing this from the Play Store but decided to go with the white since it's different. The speaker grill adds a really nice touch IMO and back has a good feel to it. Personally I'd prefer a little more build, but with the ceramic sides and everything it's nice, definitely not cheap.
The Okay:
Battery life, meh. This was expected, it's slightly better than N4's but still not great. On my first run I was able to get out about 2 hours of SOT with 1 hour of GPS, 1 hour of audio over BT, and a lot of updating/downloading games. So that's not bad, N4 lasted me a day and I don't see N5 doing any worse, if anything it'll do better when I switch to custom kernels
Speaker is an improvement but nothing great
The Ugly:
Camera shutter lag, I absolutely hate this. Maybe I'm crazy or something but I hate that it takes a lot of time to click pictures, with the chance of entirely blurring out the picture when given to someone else. Hopefully something improves this
No always on listening , I was hoping for this feature from Moto X
TL;DR: Get the freaking device. It's awesome. And get it in white, seriously.
Lmao you got me with the thread title.
Very clever! Good thread!
Google should make a COMPLETELY new camera app, and upload it to the Play Store for everyone to enjoy. And they should do that quickly. Current camera app is terrible! (The shutter lag it because of the software, not the hardware)
Can 3rd party camera apps help or is this only a google issue?
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I see what you did there.
I'd get it, if it wasn't sold out EVERYWHERE in Belgium, Netherlands, and Germany.
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I'd get it, if it wasn't sold out EVERYWHERE in Belgium, Netherlands, and Germany.
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See, that's why you stay awake till midnight of your country's time to place an order in US the moment it launches so that you can import it to your country
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Your thread title will surely gather greater intra-xda SEO. (Bringing more and more members confused by the title of the thread).
Please get it changed.
I agree.. Amazing phone! I came from a n4 and HTC one.. I just wish there was better speakers on this device. My one spoiled me!
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Your thread title will surely gather greater intra-xda SEO. (Bringing more and more members confused by the title of the thread).
Please get it changed.
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I don't see why that is a bad thing?
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you Win..
the game!!
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Can 3rd party camera apps help or is this only a google issue?
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Yes! Just found this last night and played around with it:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.spritefish.fastburstcameralite
The quality is a little less than the regular camera, but there is zero shutter lag. The paid version is $2 and it allows you to tap focus and take nicer pictures when you want to. Will still need the standard camera for HDR+ mode (which takes excellent shots that this can't touch).
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I hate you so much...
:crying::crying::crying:
This thread could be total blasphemy...sorry in advance if it is!
I've bad my op3 for maybe 3 weeks and really like it. Performance is excellent and smooth. Battery life is great. Absolutely love Oxygen OS.
But the audio experience doesn't match what I had with my Nexus 6 and I believe I can see the limitations in the 1080p screen when zooming into photos that I have snapped. They don't look as crisp as the N6 when viewing close up, even though I know the op3 has a better camera.
The Axon 7 has a lot to offer at the same price point. Awesome audio experience, better screen, bigger battery (even if becomes a wash due to the better screen), expandable storage. What's not to love with regards to specs?
My only concerns are ZTE's UI and the bootloader. I don't have an issue running stock firmware if it is good. I have no desire to unlock or root my op3 because I'm completely satisfied with OOS. if ZTE's UI isn't good, I'm scared of being stuck with it.
Anyway that ended up being a longer post than I thought. But are there any op3 owners pondering the Axon 7?
I'm satisfied with the Snapdragon 820's integrated DAC, and this is coming from someone who's accumulated thousands of dollars of audio equipment through the years.
I really don't care what my photographs look like on a phone's tiny 1080p screen. I edit and examine my photographs on my computer and the 4K television it outputs them to. I'm satisfied, as long as the phone takes great shots and film that are worthy for future preservation.
It is a little odd for you to post this on the OP3's XDA developer forum, if you're not one who commonly unlocks, roots, and contributes, besides the fact you seem unsatisfied with the phone. I don't think that you will find many people if any who would encourage to switch devices here.
In fact, I really dislike the ZTE brand, they are poor in updating their device's software, the quality control is poor, all three ZTE devices I've owned have suffered hardware failures, one as recent last month with my father's Axon. The developer community and customer service is poor as well. OnePlus has poor customer service, but developer community is among the best.
I wish you luck on your journey.
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Judging by these comparisons I've found, the Axon7 has some advantages, but overall the OP3 still beats it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iln4VouVW-Q
Camera is better on the OP3 except the abysmal camcorder audio, which has been fixed on XDA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXF-J-zCKQM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfGzHmIqbkY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5sQBh_qnJk
the most important factor for me: Unlocking the bootloader, rooting and flashing roms is allowed by OnePlus! Also there is already a huge community for this device.
I was in the same situation as you are right now but quickly reconsidered after seeing these videos.
Their ui is ugly too
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This thread could be total blasphemy...sorry in advance if it is!
I've bad my op3 for maybe 3 weeks and really like it. Performance is excellent and smooth. Battery life is great. Absolutely love Oxygen OS.
But the audio experience doesn't match what I had with my Nexus 6 and I believe I can see the limitations in the 1080p screen when zooming into photos that I have snapped. They don't look as crisp as the N6 when viewing close up, even though I know the op3 has a better camera.
The Axon 7 has a lot to offer at the same price point. Awesome audio experience, better screen, bigger battery (even if becomes a wash due to the better screen), expandable storage. What's not to love with regards to specs?
My only concerns are ZTE's UI and the bootloader. I don't have an issue running stock firmware if it is good. I have no desire to unlock or root my op3 because I'm completely satisfied with OOS. if ZTE's UI isn't good, I'm scared of being stuck with it.
Anyway that ended up being a longer post than I thought. But are there any op3 owners pondering the Axon 7?
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Well well... If that bootloader is unlocked I'm in
I'm also on the fence between OP3 and Axon 7; both devices have strong and weak points, but as OP say the ZTE UI and bootloader lock would make the difference.
Quality checks also do have importance, thus it would be nice to hear from existing Axon 7 owners.
You're not on an Axon 7 forum what's the point of this thread? If you want to move on a new phone our opinion doesn't matter.
Well if someone happen to have both, or experience with ZTE, it does. I am also interested to know. The Axon 7 I believe offers 2 UI choices; the ZTE one, and stock Android, which is a big plus (no DnD disabled-slider BS and whatnot). This is a good forum to discuss it, because the audience is tech-savy and can give good feedback on what they know about difference between Op3 and A7, I think.
Oneplus - Custom rom and unlock bootloader
Axon - ?
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.... Unlocking the bootloader, rooting and flashing roms is allowed by OnePlus! Also there is already a huge community for this device...
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This is the most important plus point for OP3 over axon.
And this is the reason I'll always go with OP3
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Oneplus - Custom rom and unlock bootloader
Axon - ?
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Axon should have better display and audio (both DAC and speakers).
Design and development wise OP3 wins hands down, though.
Im on the same boat, the phone on paper beats the the 1+3 (bigger battery, better screen, better sound, expandable storage, etc) I almost preordered it, there are a few things holding me back, this will be my 1st time buying an ZTE phone, I dont know how good their hardware is, nobody knows anything about their update system, is uncertain if the bootloader will be unlocked, the black/grey version will be coming out the 2nd week of August by that time the next Nexus might already be announced (I know I might want that phone too).
@Giocarro
The OP3 DAC can easily compete with higher priced devices
https://youtu.be/ATxLNEDYqDk?t=1h23m54s
http://pocketnow.com/2016/06/27/oneplus-3-review#toc-7
Initial anecdotal impressions of the OP3 were very positive.
This phone has a clean, punchy, balanced output from the headphone jack,
and this amp is more powerful than the hardware found on the Galaxy S7 or LG G5.
Running this phone through some analyzer tools, it handily beat those two flagships,
and trailed directly behind some of our absolute favorite music phones like the HTC 10 and LG V10,
just nipping at the heels of the iPhone 6S. This was shocking in the best way possible.
The OnePlus 3 sounds like a very good option for the audiophile on a budget.
The bottom firing speaker is no slouch either. Not the loudest we’ve tested for alerts and notifications,
but providing detailed and crisp playback.
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Good discussion guys. @AcmE85, the links you posted are very helpful!
Obviously, I could have taken this post to the ZTE forum but I didn't want to be inundated with responses from people that are overly excited about the ZTE. I figured here, people might be a little more calculated in their responses...and most of you have been. Thank you!
I just want to clearify that I am not biased.
I can admit that my OPOs display is objectively sharper than the OP3 when displaying small fonts for example...
I was also thinking about returning my OP3 for the ZTE but kept it in the end.
The Axon7 has some advantages, but in the areas which are most important to me the OP3 shines.
I probably would have waited for the next Nexus anyway if it wasn't for the OP3.
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I just want to clearify that I am not biased.
I can admit that my OPOs display is objectively sharper than the OP3 when displaying small fonts for example...
I was also thinking about returning my OP3 for the ZTE but kept it in the end.
The Axon7 has some advantages, but in the areas which are most important to me the OP3 shines.
I probably would have waited for the next Nexus anyway if it wasn't for the OP3.
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Yeah, your comments were very objective.
I know it's subjective but that phone is fugly (imho)
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I know it's subjective but that phone is fugly (imho)
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Haha funny I think the opposite. I think it is a better looking phone than the op3...especially from the front. From the back they are both equally attractive.
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Haha funny I think the opposite. I think it is a better looking phone than the op3...especially from the front. From the back they are both equally attractive.
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Looks like the love child of a radiator cover and an LG :laugh:
Buying a phone beased on hardware specs is never a good idea. ZTE is too new in this game. You will just waste money.
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Please explain why you say that. Exclude updates (could be bootloader unlock)
Ill start by saying I love my oneplus 3 (not 3t). I am holding out getting the oneplus 5 because of it. The 3 has literally everything I want. The only downfalls are camera and now not having 8 gb of ram and a sd835. In all honesty though this phone is still competitive a year later minus the camera. When the one plus 5 came out I said I would upgrade if the price and camera are good. If they weren't I would keep my oneplus 3 and buy a zerolemon battery case for it (because I love it too much for the battery to last). Now that I see the camera is not good and the price higher I am keeping it. My screen has ZERO scratches. The battery will still get me through a full day of moderate/light use. The body is near flawless. And most importantly the hardware is still fast. I feel stupid for wanting the newest oneplus phone just because it was new. Does anybody else feel the same?
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Ill start by saying I love my oneplus 3 (not 3t). I am holding out getting the oneplus 5 because of it. The 3 has literally everything I want. The only downfalls are camera and now not having 8 gb of ram and a sd835. In all honesty though this phone is still competitive a year later minus the camera. When the one plus 5 came out I said I would upgrade if the price and camera are good. If they weren't I would keep my oneplus 3 and buy a zerolemon battery case for it (because I love it too much for the battery to last). Now that I see the camera is not good and the price higher I am keeping it. My screen has ZERO scratches. The battery will still get me through a full day of moderate/light use. The body is near flawless. And most importantly the hardware is still fast. I feel stupid for wanting the newest oneplus phone just because it was new. Does anybody else feel the same?
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Same here. Btw what ROM are you using? Did you get any burn in yet?
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Same here. Btw what ROM are you using? Did you get any burn in yet?
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Right now freedom and bluspark kernal. But I switch so much haha. I have no burn in... Is this even a concern with this phone?
I too am completely satisfied with my OP3.
See no reason to upgrade to the latest OnePlus.
I am honestly disappointed with the OP5 though.
I'm here with ya. Keeping this beast for a long time to come, probably 2 more years.
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I too am completely satisfied with my OP3.
See no reason to upgrade to the latest OnePlus.
I am honestly disappointed with the OP5 though.
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me too. I thought they would include an sd card atleast. A op3 with an sd card an removable battery would be a game changer
Totally agree with you guys.
Think I'll wait till the OnePlus 7 at the earliest. My OP3 is still rocking. All I want now is a 2m dash charge cable.
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Came from a Honor 5X, it was so slow even though it had 2GB of ram.. I usually spend 100 euro each year on a phone so that means I have 3 more years to go! Let's see if Oneplus still exists after 3 years and if they aren't making €1000 phones... Until then VertexOS with Render Kernel will suit me well
Yeah I'm with you guys on this one. If you'd of asked me 6 months ago if I would be upgrading I would of said without question, but now that the 5 is here and I can actually compare the 2 devices, I see little incentive to upgrade. Sure the 5 has sightly better specs but are they $500 better? No, not to me. I'm pretty disappointed with what they did or rather didn't do with the 5 series... No screen upgrade ( VR compliant resolution) , no sdcard slot (this a big disappointment), no stereo speakers (or even front facing, as gaming inevitably covers the down-fire with hand), no 3.0 USB type C (on a device now sporting 4k cam, really? so you have to offload at 2.0 speeds... wow) , and no earth moving styling changes ether.
All that adds up to the 3 maintaining its bang for the buck , and likely will for some time to come.
I've grown quite attached to my 3, we've been through some crazy rough times together. and I've learned soo much from it in the process. On day 2 after purchasing I bricked it and thought I'd killed it. And at 3a.m not a lot of people on xda to assist so that was a rollercoster of emotion to the next morning when someone piped up and showed me the recovery tool for bricked devices.
Then on month 3 I accidentally slammed it down on the sidewalk attempting to remove my arm from a stubborn winter coat and shattered the screen. A phone call later informed me the repair shop wanted $250 to replace it! So yeah, now I know how to DIY a OP3 screen replacement, including reglueing the glass onto the new $100 replacement screen (and let me tell ya, not fun) but I did it and it came out flawless).
Here's the proof
https://goo.gl/photos/9TLcayW5oxqDammY8
So in short, they'll have to do much better then they did to entice me into abandoning my amazingly tough and resilient oneplus 3.
Me too seems keep op3. Do not think 500 eur upgrade worth it to swap for op5. You guys think camera are bad? Take old nokia and take photo, there is bad camera for sure, so smile and have fun with op3
I thought OnePlus 5 will have a better camera, + 835, ram. I keep my 1+3, too.
I've had my OP3 since August and it's still going strong. It's rooted and running ExperienceOS R10.0. I have no intention of upgrading anytime soon.
I honestly feel like the jump from OnePlus 3(T) to the OnePlus 5 isn't really a big jump. I see it as some minor changes over the OnePlus 3(T), it may be there introduce new users to the OnePlus space because it's full on marketing on camera (even though the camera is not well received anyway). I'll wait for what OnePlus have to offer on the 6 (and I hope it's not a "shiny brand new camera" again *sigh*).
There seems to be a lot of persons here that are satisfied with their 1+3/T. I've had my 1+3 almost a year now and I am very comfortable with it.(felt cheated when they released the 1+3T thought lol.) Even before hearing about the 5 I had already decided not to buy another phone, probably next year if the 6 is worth the upgrade. Yes the camera isn't the best but it gets the job done. The battery still last a full day after so many months of gaming (online/offline) Bluetooth headphones plus a gear fit 2 which means BT is on 24/7. The support is great i like switching between roms OOS, HYDROGEN OS, MIUI, Flyme and several AOSP based roms. Its going to be a hard task to replace this phone. Good job OnePlus.
So many good stories. Haha. At least I am not the only one that feels this way. I hope one plus looks at these forums and sees how people really feel.
i'm happy with my OP3. I hope they still doin oxygenos updates for it. if not i start using custom roms, but im too lazy to search for a way to remove the dm verity everytime i update the rom. but we will see what comes in the future.
You're right because these phones are built to last for 2-3 years. I still have it working daily an it hasn't shown a single sign of age. It still delivers the promised battery life, charging rate, and performance too. I'd consider changing it for the oneplus 5 if it had the resale price it deserves because its still better than the cheaper phones. Also the oneplus 5 looks a lot like iphone 7+. That's a minor thing but then again they have changed the hardware but it doesn't matter what's under the hood to laymen; what matters is how it performs. In my opinion the oneplus 3 is quite good compared to the 5.
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There seems to be a lot of persons here that are satisfied with their 1+3/T. I've had my 1+3 almost a year now and I am very comfortable with it.(felt cheated when they released the 1+3T thought lol.) Even before hearing about the 5 I had already decided not to buy another phone, probably next year if the 6 is worth the upgrade. Yes the camera isn't the best but it gets the job done. The battery still last a full day after so many months of gaming (online/offline) Bluetooth headphones plus a gear fit 2 which means BT is on 24/7. The support is great i like switching between roms OOS, HYDROGEN OS, MIUI, Flyme and several AOSP based roms. Its going to be a hard task to replace this phone. Good job OnePlus.
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can you tell me, based on your experience which rom you find the best?
I am with you. I initially ordered the Oneplus 5 but now will send it back, because there is nothing that justifies the money for the new device. I mean sure you got a little bit more power and more battery, but I don´t see that this is worth the 300€ (could have sold Oneplus 3 for 280€) spent for the new phone. The only thing I will really miss is the new design. I ****ing loved the new design and the haptics of it, but I also love the design of the OP3. So OP3 will still be my daily device for at least one or two more years
Agreed!
I didn't like the design of the phone it looks like something I hate
not worth for 500$ there are no major differences
820 doin the Job and the cam is not bad
Battery life still fine even after a long time
keeping mine till end of this year or maybe longer.
why?
because the 3 satisfies my need for everyday use. kinda no disappointments. been with custom roms for a while but now im sticking to the official stock with root. as long as the phone gives me good battery life away from home then im good. plays music from my wired earphones, browses the web and can call and send text msgs then im totally good with it. no need for the oneplus 5 although it looks good but im tired answering people what phone im using. lol
The expectation from one plus 5 was high, when it was being released. It seems that one plus is not putting any innovative ideas in their UI or overall system experience. They should at least put some new ideas to their user experience. Please vote and let them know...
think you're being a little harsh mate, there are a lot of qualities which add up to an experience that you don't get from any other device.
Speed: The fastest phone there is, bar none.
Audio: Loudest phone i've ever had, couple that with viper audio and it's even louder
Battery: Best battery i've ever had on any phone including the note 4 which was supposed to be superb.
Screen: Jelly effect aside (i don't get this problem) 1+ going for a 1080p screen is the way it should be, a 2k screen on a 5 inch device? What is the point.
Build: Strong casing covering the phone and a non bendy screen
Software: For the first time ever, I've actually contemplated not rooting my device (it's rooted now btw ) Reason being is you can theme and change things which you can't on other devices.
Camera: Ok this one is a bit of a sore subject, I actually rate the camera, i've took some superb shots with it.
Charging: phenomenally quick charging, bested by none. (Thanks @3DSammy )
Overall when you put this together you get a package which very few can compete with
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The expectation from one plus 5 was high, when it was being released. It seems that one plus is not putting any innovative ideas in their UI or overall system experience. They should at least put some new ideas to their user experience. Please vote and let them know...
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Not everyone agrees with you. When you speak of user experience, do you mean something like TouchWiz? No thanks. As close to stock as possible is what people in this forum prefer.
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think you're being a little harsh mate, there are a lot of qualities which add up to an experience that you don't get from any other device.
Speed: The fastest phone there is, bar none.
Audio: Loudest phone i've ever had, couple that with viper audio and it's even louder
Battery: Best battery i've ever had on any phone including the note 4 which was supposed to be superb.
Screen: Jelly effect aside (i don't get this problem) 1+ going for a 1080p screen is the way it should be, a 2k screen on a 5 inch device? What is the point.
Build: Strong casing covering the phone and a non bendy screen
Software: For the first time ever, I've actually contemplated not rooting my device (it's rooted now btw ) Reason being is you can theme and change things which you can't on other devices.
Camera: Ok this one is a bit of a sore subject, I actually rate the camera, i've took some superb shots with it.
Overall when you put this together you get a package which very few can compete with
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The only thing I'd add to your list is the phenomenal Dash charging. Just today or yesterday XDA posted a comparison of various brand's charging technologies and the OnePlus Dash charging came out on top. When I bought the OP5 and first charged it that was the very first thing that WOWed me. I definitely agree with the rest of your list. Maybe add the OnePlus companies cooperative attitude to developers with a TWRP recovery available by the end of the very first weekend after release. Its my Nexus series replacement. As times gone by (I ordered the OP5 two hours after the streamed announcement), OOS with multiple OTA releases and its general almost stock experience has reinforced my confidence in this purchase.
OP5 to me is the Nexus that I've missed.... It's speedy and utilitarian... The pixel didn't appeal to me and I think maybe alot of the og Nexus fans too....
If you don't like Nexus, I'm guessing you won't like OP....
Couldn't disagree more with the OP. This is the best phone I've ever owned. And the UI is basically vanilla android but with see very useful additions. The kind of additions I used to flash custom ROMs to get.
I was a successful customer of one plus 3 and 3T... I loved these 2 very much as these were best of their time.... Except dual camera setup which is still not as stable as it should be and Dash charger, I do not see big differences in from previous ones...
Undoubtedly it is good phone but not the best of his time... So many bugs still present in software.... No beta update for one plus 5.... No latest security patches... Even my op3 has latest security patch as compared to my one plus 5..
You do realize it is a small company and they kinda have to update 3 phones now. This takes a bit o time. Besides, they probably invest most of their resources on the Oreo update now.
Do you really think Samsung offers better updates?
As for the differences between last year's model and this year's model - there never is a big differences between those. Generally speaking. They are more like incremental upgrades.
Let's take the S7 and S8. The biggest difference is the screen and that's pretty much it.
In my opinion, one should always skip one phone generation to get the best results. If you had the 3T, there was no reason to get the 5 now. It's better to wait for the 6 as that may be a better upgrade. Same applies to Samsung, LG, HTC and everything else.
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You expect OnePlus to innovate? They've barely been around for five years.
Quit dreaming and buy an iPhone or a Samsung.
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The only thing I'd add to your list is the phenomenal Dash charging. Just today or yesterday XDA posted a comparison of various brand's charging technologies and the OnePlus Dash charging came out on top. When I bought the OP5 and first charged it that was the very first thing that WOWed me. I definitely agree with the rest of your list. Maybe add the OnePlus companies cooperative attitude to developers with a TWRP recovery available by the end of the very first weekend after release. Its my Nexus series replacement. As times gone by (I ordered the OP5 two hours after the streamed announcement), OOS with multiple OTA releases and its general almost stock experience has reinforced my confidence in this purchase.
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Undoubtedly it is good phone but not the best of his time... So many bugs still present in software.... No beta update for one plus 5.... No latest security patches... Even my op3 has latest security patch as compared to my one plus 5..
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Please compare this to another phone and put the the other ahead!! What phone out ever has no problems? The fact that your 3 is still getting updates in a timely manner is a good thing.
The reason why we got a OnePlus is partly because we prefer as close as possible AOSP experience with a few value added enhancements
If you're into UI and stuff, you're definitely looking the wrong phone and should consider what Samsung or Xiaomi has to offer instead
Download a launcher.
This thread so dumb I thought I am browsing the OnePlus forums
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This thread so dumb I thought I am browsing the OnePlus forums
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hahah , yeah.
Damn people, they want stupid gadget but dont want to pay for it.
For many people, the op5 is perfect because it's simple, still have capacitive button ( which make the android signature imo), simple = the parts will be cheap on ebay, and we dont pay for stupid random gadget.
NO! REMOVING 3.5mm jack is NOT innovation.
Why spend $$$ to get a fcking edge screen that will cost 500$ to replace ?
IP67 , when 95% of people wont get close to water with their phone, and 99% of them never drop their phone in water anyway.
op5 is innovative in a way that they give you high spec with minimal parts. Imho, this make a durable phone (5-6 years easy), and as we can notice, the earth need a break of overconsuming rightnow.
Coming from a Pixel XL, the design of this phone is much better; feels much nicer in the hand and isn't as heavy.
There is tons more development available for this device compared to the XL, and for a company that is so young, they are doing an amazing job.
Yeah, the camera didn't live up to the hype, but it's not a horrible camera by any means.
I am getting the same user experience as my Pixel XL, and even better than the XL in some areas as well - all for significantly less than what I paid for the XL.
That being said, I definitely don't think it's reasonable to say there is no innovation, despite the 5 looking similar to an iPhone. The iPhone's design isn't bad at all in my opinion, so that carries over to the 5.
All in all, I'm really loving this phone and I do not regret selling my XL to get this I am open minded and will see how the Pixel 2 is though, but just in terms of development, I don't know if I'd switch back.
MSF Jarvis said:
This thread so dumb I thought I am browsing the OnePlus forums
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Just people having their say. Sometimes the worst questions or ideas for a thread become extremely popular.
Otherwise why are people posting here
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rickysidhu_ said:
Coming from a Pixel XL, the design of this phone is much better; feels much nicer in the hand and isn't as heavy.
All in all, I'm really loving this phone and I do not regret selling my XL to get this I am open minded and will see how the Pixel 2 is though, but just in terms of development, I don't know if I'd switch back.
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Honestly can't see the pixel 2 having anything ground breaking that would make me want to move over.
The camera will be great but OS and performance, stamina and build will be very similar.
Tbh I can see the 1+5 beating it in terms of speed.
Guess we'll see.
Plus if the pixel goes for a 2k screen then you'll see how much of a benefit a 1080p screen gives you in regards to performance and battery longevity.
coolom1983 said:
The expectation from one plus 5 was high, when it was being released. It seems that one plus is not putting any innovative ideas in their UI or overall system experience. They should at least put some new ideas to their user experience. Please vote and let them know...
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Hmmmmmm - I vote that that you would be better off trading in op5 and get this
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i always viewed oneplus devices as extremely minimal. I know, you know and oneplus knows that if you want an innovative UI you can download it from the play store. Think of the thing as a modular phone on the software side. I like the thing because it works really well and charges nice and fast doesnt slow down and remembers every app right where i was unless the app itself has a background refresh built in. Its a good phone and should be treated as such.
sure, it's innovative! you get to choose between Wifi AND cellular data. the screen protectors lay perfectly flat on the screen, which is also flat. this phone is small! it fits perfectly in all kinds of pockets. the screen lights up in the dark so you can see it at night. you can install multiple applications without removing the old ones. on top of all that - wireless discharging!
seriously, you are living in the era of the Jetsons (assuming you're old enough to remember that show). splitting hairs about a company's R&D standards is so moot when you have a super [email protected]$$ computer in your pocket. just don't buy it! or return it! move along!
Hi, I need some advice on which device I am going to buy. I'm going to use this I guess 3 to 5 years as I dont replace my phone that often so this thread will help A LOT. I'm basing on some reviews, speed tests, but the two seems to be on par with each other. Price is/may kind of an issue here as I would love to use some of the money (if I buy the OP5) for the after sales and some personal stuff. However if the Note 8 is really "bang for the buck" then I'll gladly go with it. I also tried to search some issues. Here's what I found so far:
One Plus 5:
GPS Issue
Bluetooth Issue
Overheating issue
Jelly Effect in screen
Note 8:
Red tint in a lot of device
Light leak (lights leaking on the side of the phone not much of an issue for me)
If you have some issues with the phone, please feel free to reply. It would be appreciated a lot!
I also created Pros and Cons that might help me but I ended up more confused what to buy. Haha.
Pros for One Plus 5
Performance
Price
Dev Community as I love to mod my phone
Fingerprint Scanner placement + the scan speed is so fast
I've seen a lot of people who still uses OPO or OP2 which means that this device last long
The toggle above the volume like in iPhones
Customizable hardware buttons (I really love this one)
Cons for One Plus 5
Issues above as I really need the GPS and bluetooth, and I play heavy games.
No waterproofing
No Micro SD slot (I guess 128gb is enough but I would love to have the option of expanding more)
Pros for Note 8
SPen
Camera
Performance (but I've read OP5 has better. The 8gb ram may be the reason. But please feel free to correct me)
Display is a plus
Iris Scanner and Face Recognition (Is it accurate?)
Cons for Note 8
Samsung phones tend to slow down after months/years of using it.
Price
Body build is somewhat easy to crack due to glass body + curved edge
Samsung is a little bit strict when it comes to flashing Custom ROMS and I dont know if the SPen functionalities will be affected. (Please correct me here)
Fingerprint Scanner placement
I may be wrong with some of this but I've researched and this is what I've seen.
If this is a point to consider, I'm coming from a Xperia Z3Compact which didn't last long (I hated sony to the hell because of this) because of the digitizer issue. However, I enjoyed tweaking that phone. Now I'm forced to use my iPhone5s with jailbreak.
Note: Just to be clear, the devices in comparison are OP5 8gb/128gb and Note 8 6gb/64gb Exynos
Note: I'm posting this to each respective forum to have a fair discussion for each phone. I hope this is allowed. I also hope to help some people that have the same options with me.
Note 8 Thread: Link Here
OnePlus 5 Thread: Link Here
Thank you guys. After a long comparison, I'm going for the OP5 even with the rumors of OP5T. I just hate the back fingerprint scanner placements which is the trend now. And regarding with the bezels, I'm more into those phone with bezels on top and bottom for landscape usage. I've been trying the S8+, and some games that I play doesn't maximize or utilize the whole screen which leaves some part of the screen blank. However, the screen in the Note 8 is A1 dont get me wrong, but I'm more into the performance and the OP5's screen is enough. Thank you guys!
For me would have gone oneplus 5,cause that thing is crazy fast. However the jello, jelly put me right off. And the fact that oneplus 5,would not until now come out in the open about it, really bugged me and beggars belief!. You can see the problem as soon as you pick the device up, so that reason I went note 8 and it's been an amazing experience. I haven't played games on it yet, still enjoying just browsing, multimedia, taking photos of my munchkins etc.
I had the oneplus 5 like 4 phones ago and it was great. No issues whatsoever, no jelly or any of the other issues you mentioned tbh. Bang for bucks it is the best phone you can get. Great for flashing and whatnot. That being said the note 8 has so much more added value and the exynos has a dev community that should keep you flash happy for years to come...
marvi0 said:
For me would have gone oneplus 5,cause that thing is crazy fast. However the jello, jelly put me right off. And the fact that oneplus 5,would not until now come out in the open about it, really bugged me and beggars belief!. You can see the problem as soon as you pick the device up, so that reason I went note 8 and it's been an amazing experience. I haven't played games on it yet, still enjoying just browsing, multimedia, taking photos of my munchkins etc.
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Ah yes, the jelly effect. I've also heard it too and seen it in facebook. That thing also prevents me in purchasing this device. However, some owners claimed that their device has small to no signs of jelly effect in their device. So I think they have fixed it now, I wish. Thank you for your comment
mrnovanova said:
I had the oneplus 5 like 4 phones ago and it was great. No issues whatsoever, no jelly or any of the other issues you mentioned tbh. Bang for bucks it is the best phone you can get. Great for flashing and whatnot. That being said the note 8 has so much more added value and the exynos has a dev community that should keep you flash happy for years to come...
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I see. I heard that Snapdragon version is more strict in terms of tweaking than the Exynos version. Thank you for you reply!
lazygeniuslanz said:
Hi, I need some advice on which device I am going to buy. I'm going to use this I guess 3 to 5 years as I dont replace my phone that often so this thread will help A LOT. I'm basing on some reviews, speed tests, but the two seems to be on par with each other. Price is/may kind of an issue here as I would love to use some of the money (if I buy the OP5) for the after sales and some personal stuff. However if the Note 8 is really "bang for the buck" then I'll gladly go with it. I also tried to search some issues. Here's what I found so far:
One Plus 5:
GPS Issue
Bluetooth Issue
Overheating issue
Jelly Effect in screen
Note 8:
Red tint in a lot of device
Light leak (lights leaking on the side of the phone not much of an issue for me)
If you have some issues with the phone, please feel free to reply. It would be appreciated a lot!
I also created Pros and Cons that might help me but I ended up more confused what to buy. Haha.
Pros for One Plus 5
Performance
Price
Dev Community as I love to mod my phone
Fingerprint Scanner placement + the scan speed is so fast
I've seen a lot of people who still uses OPO or OP2 which means that this device last long
The toggle above the volume like in iPhones
Customizable hardware buttons (I really love this one)
Cons for One Plus 5
Issues above as I really need the GPS and bluetooth, and I play heavy games.
No waterproofing
No Micro SD slot (I guess 128gb is enough but I would love to have the option of expanding more)
Pros for Note 8
SPen
Camera
Performance (but I've read OP5 has better. The 8gb ram may be the reason. But please feel free to correct me)
Display is a plus
Iris Scanner and Face Recognition (Is it accurate?)
Cons for Note 8
Samsung phones tend to slow down after months/years of using it.
Price
Body build is somewhat easy to crack due to glass body + curved edge
Samsung is a little bit strict when it comes to flashing Custom ROMS and I dont know if the SPen functionalities will be affected. (Please correct me here)
Fingerprint Scanner placement
I may be wrong with some of this but I've researched and this is what I've seen.
If this is a point to consider, I'm coming from a Xperia Z3Compact which didn't last long (I hated sony to the hell because of this) because of the digitizer issue. However, I enjoyed tweaking that phone. Now I'm forced to use my iPhone5s with jailbreak.
Note: Just to be clear, the devices in comparison are OP5 8gb/128gb and Note 8 6gb/64gb Exynos
Note: I'm posting this to each respective forum to have a fair discussion for each phone. I hope this is allowed. I also hope to help some people that have the same options with me.
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I a solution for you to avoid those listed "issues" if you decide to buy a Note 8.
Just find a open box or used one and inspect it fully before handing over the money.
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marvi0 said:
For me would have gone oneplus 5,cause that thing is crazy fast. However the jello, jelly put me right off. And the fact that oneplus 5,would not until now come out in the open about it, really bugged me and beggars belief!. You can see the problem as soon as you pick the device up, so that reason I went note 8 and it's been an amazing experience. I haven't played games on it yet, still enjoying just browsing, multimedia, taking photos of my munchkins etc.
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Limeybastard said:
I a solution for you to avoid those listed "issues" if you decide to buy a Note 8.
Just find a open box or used one and inspect it fully before handing over the money.
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I've read that solution too haha. And that's a good one. But is there any reason to consider Note 8 for OP5?
lazygeniuslanz said:
I've read that solution too haha. And that's a good one. But is there any reason to consider Note 8 for OP5?
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I can't answer that question as I don't have any experience with the OP5, to be honest.
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lazygeniuslanz said:
I've read that solution too haha. And that's a good one. But is there any reason to consider Note 8 for OP5?
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That's a personal decision. Only you can weigh the pros and cons of each phone... and you seem to have done a great job of listing them.
The SD card is the dealbreaker for me. I carry about 200 GB of hi-res music. At this point, that's difficult to replicate any other way that doesn't involve paying even more for music I already own.
I've had the oneplus5, now currently have the note 8.
The reasons that made me return the oneplus 5 were as follows
- The jelly screen ....once you see it, it'll bug you forever
- The camera in my opinion wasn't all that..the lack of OIS was really annoying. Videos were shaky as hell! (It was improved with software stabilisation, bit it wasn't anything compaired to realtime optical stablisation
I really wanted to like the phone, it's so cheap for what you get and I love how oneplus allow you to root and mod away.
You need to decide what you'd want from your phone
Thanks but.. some of your "CONS" are off. You didnt go with the majority. On some cons.
note 8- tons more features
one plus- easier to mod
its just that simple; YOU decide whats important to YOU
In 3 or so years you probably won't want a phone with all that bezel. I'll venture out and say if you want a phone that won't feel obsolete sooner than later do to design get the note 8 hands down (or s8+).....imo
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louforgiveno said:
In 3 or so years you probably won't want a phone with all that bezel. I'll venture out and say if you want a phone that won't feel obsolete sooner than later do to design get the note 8 hands down (or s8+).....imo
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I think the Note 8 has a higher chance of being obsolete. Reason being the 8GB RAM of the OnePlus 5; it will probably become standard on all devices in 2018 or 2019.
It's not like all that extra screen gives you extra functionality that you won't have if your device has bezels. So I don't see why a device with bezels would become obsolete.
Design is really the last thing you should look at when making your decision. You're gonna use one of those devices, not stare at it and admire its design. You're probably gonna put a case on it anyway, so that whole design aspect flies out the window.
Pwnycorn said:
I think the Note 8 has a higher chance of being obsolete. Reason being the 8GB RAM of the OnePlus 5; it will probably become standard on all devices in 2018 or 2019.
It's not like all that extra screen gives you extra functionality that you won't have if your device has bezels. So I don't see why a device with bezels would become obsolete.
Design is really the last thing you should look at when making your decision. You're gonna use one of those devices, not stare at it and admire its design. You're probably gonna put a case on it anyway, so that whole design aspect flies out the window.
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I respect your opinion but I think you're off a smidge. If design were not important there would be no iPhone X. Expect large bezels to be frowned upon in the 2 years. Bezels will get smaller that's just a fact. 8gb is overkill how will OEMs justify the 8gb when Apple does wonders with 3. 6gb will remain the maximum and 4gb the standard. We might see 8gb again but it sure won't become the norm.
Now I know that I referred to Apple as a reference for both arguments but for better or for worse Android sets trends and they cement it. It's just facts.
Design is the reason why many great devices were overlooked this year IE HTC U11 and Sony Xperia Zx1 or whatever (Saw it, laughed, moved on) I agree with you that in the end, Greater scheme and all, it doesn't matter as beauty is subjective but...
8gb standard? Maybe for Chinese OEMs. Bezels? They're flying out the window as we speak ?
douger1957 said:
That's a personal decision. Only you can weigh the pros and cons of each phone... and you seem to have done a great job of listing them.
The SD card is the dealbreaker for me. I carry about 200 GB of hi-res music. At this point, that's difficult to replicate any other way that doesn't involve paying even more for music I already own.
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Wow, thats a lot of music you have there. I can't even fill my 32gb from my z3c hahaha. Thank you sir!
Ry2mkk said:
I've had the oneplus5, now currently have the note 8.
The reasons that made me return the oneplus 5 were as follows
- The jelly screen ....once you see it, it'll bug you forever
- The camera in my opinion wasn't all that..the lack of OIS was really annoying. Videos were shaky as hell! (It was improved with software stabilisation, bit it wasn't anything compaired to realtime optical stablisation
I really wanted to like the phone, it's so cheap for what you get and I love how oneplus allow you to root and mod away.
You need to decide what you'd want from your phone
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Yeah, the camera in OP5 kinda sucks at videos. I've watched many camera reviews against Note 8 and boy that OP5 videos are shaky but I think they can do better after software updates. However the stills from OP5 looked good that it made the OP5 worth it atleast at good lighting. Don't get me wrong, the Note 8 outputs are better but I guess it doesn't justify the price differences.
Zeblade said:
Thanks but.. some of your "CONS" are off. You didnt go with the majority. On some cons.
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What do you means sir?
wase4711 said:
note 8- tons more features
one plus- easier to mod
its just that simple; YOU decide whats important to YOU
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I see, thank you sir!
Pwnycorn said:
I think the Note 8 has a higher chance of being obsolete. Reason being the 8GB RAM of the OnePlus 5; it will probably become standard on all devices in 2018 or 2019.
It's not like all that extra screen gives you extra functionality that you won't have if your device has bezels. So I don't see why a device with bezels would become obsolete.
Design is really the last thing you should look at when making your decision. You're gonna use one of those devices, not stare at it and admire its design. You're probably gonna put a case on it anyway, so that whole design aspect flies out the window.
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mrnovanova said:
I respect your opinion but I think you're off a smidge. If design were not important there would be no iPhone X. Expect large bezels to be frowned upon in the 2 years. Bezels will get smaller that's just a fact. 8gb is overkill how will OEMs justify the 8gb when Apple does wonders with 3. 6gb will remain the maximum and 4gb the standard. We might see 8gb again but it sure won't become the norm.
Now I know that I referred to Apple as a reference for both arguments but for better or for worse Android sets trends and they cement it. It's just facts.
Design is the reason why many great devices were overlooked this year IE HTC U11 and Sony Xperia Zx1 or whatever (Saw it, laughed, moved on) I agree with you that in the end, Greater scheme and all, it doesn't matter as beauty is subjective but...
8gb standard? Maybe for Chinese OEMs. Bezels? They're flying out the window as we speak
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Hey you guys calm down haha I agree that the design may be obsolete but I think I value the performance than the design itself. I don't want to use a good design phone but stutters or lags even a bit specially when its priced in an almost 1k. But good points guys! :good: :fingers-crossed:
Thank you guys. After a long comparison, I'm going for the OP5 even with the rumors of OP5T. I just hate the back fingerprint scanner placements which is the trend now. And regarding with the bezels, I'm more into those phone with bezels on top and bottom for landscape usage. I've been trying the S8+, and some games that I play doesn't maximize or utilize the whole screen which leaves some part of the screen blank. However, the screen in the Note 8 is A1 dont get me wrong, but I'm more into the performance and the OP5's screen is enough. Thank you guys!