androind 5 vs 6 (battery drain, camera, performance) - Huawei P8 Guides, News, & Discussion

hello to all,
how we know our device have worst life time and long charging time, on my observation i want to say next
1) we have weak life time caused by network signal(3g/2g) which use more than 30% of bettery in 6-8 hours of device (while cpu is in deep sleep mode) in airplane mode use 1% of battery for 10 hours ( ARROW firmware)
2) also i observe how fast battery discharging while I use it compared to other phones.
I presupposes that Huawei make it intentional, with newer updates make device worse and worse, and I decide to make comparation with the old firmware (b170)
i make a little benchmark of our battery whose goal to observe how much time the device will work with 2% of bettery on androind 6 and later with android 5
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how we observe Android 6 used 2% of battery for 3:20 min while Android 5 used same 2% for 4:40 min
Also i want to say Android 5 use less battery in sleep mode ( not tested yet but i think a lot and a lot less than android 6)
About camera want to say only one (cause it not tested yet)
In android 6 photos get size ~3.3mb in 10mpx mode while in Android 5 it can reach 4.5 mb in 10mpx mode
Also optical stabilization work considerably better in Android 5

ruskooo said:
hello to all,
how we know our device have worst life time and long charging time, on my observation i want to say next
1) we have weak life time caused by network signal(3g/2g) which use more than 30% of bettery in 6-8 hours of device (while cpu is in deep sleep mode) in airplane mode use 1% of battery for 10 hours ( ARROW firmware)
2) also i observe how fast battery discharging while I use it compared to other phones.
I presupposes that Huawei make it intentional, with newer updates make device worse and worse, and I decide to make comparation with the old firmware (b170)
i make a little benchmark of our battery whose goal to observe how much time the device will work with 2% of bettery on androind 6 and later with android 5
how we observe Android 6 used 2% of battery for 3:20 min while Android 5 used same 2% for 4:40 min
Also i want to say Android 5 use less battery in sleep mode ( not tested yet but i think a lot and a lot less than android 6)
About camera want to say only one (cause it not tested yet)
In android 6 photos get size ~3.3mb in 10mpx mode while in Android 5 it can reach 4.5 mb in 10mpx mode
Also optical stabilization work considerably better in Android 5
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i think battery better than 5.0 lolipop but 5.0 have mobile stand-by active bug or problem i mi dont solved

TAHA000007 said:
i think battery better than 5.0 lolipop but 5.0 have mobile stand-by active bug or problem i mi dont solved
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sometimes after firmware flashing are present some bugs (apps) that dont allow CPU to go in "deep sleep" mode, this phenomenon also are present in stock 6.0, arrow , cm13 and lineage os, you must to reinstall firmware and to monitor cpu activity with "kernel toolbox" app

ruskooo said:
sometimes after firmware flashing are present some bugs (apps) that dont allow CPU to go in "deep sleep" mode, this phenomenon also are present in stock 6.0, arrow , cm13 and lineage os, you must to reinstall firmware and to monitor cpu activity with "kernel toolbox" app
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i dont happy huawei p8 i want to big battery phone

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Battery Problem! Help!!!!

My ZR Is Not Giving Me Sufficient Backup Even Battery Dying In Stand-By Mode Like It Drain About 10-20% On Night With Everything Turned Off(Data,Wifi,BT).And When Its Fully Charged It Shows Me About 2 Day Estimated Time Left While My Brother's Xperia Z Shows 10-11 Days Standby Left When Completly Charged In Power Management But I Heard ZR Have Better Battery Backup Then Z Then What's Wrong With My ZR? m Also Taken Screenshot Of Over The Night Drain-
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Please Help Me Out.Even My Old Xperia U Have Better Backup My Xperia U Can Easily Gave Me 4-5 Hour Screen Time While The ZR Only Gives 2 hours :crying:
Is My Battery Defected Also I Have Repaired And Reseted My Phone But Nothing Happens
Still No Reply From Anyone
first, try installing wakelock detector or better battery stats from play store to investigate what's eating your battery up
then, you can freeze/greenify the culprit.
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first, try installing wakelock detector or better battery stats from play store to investigate what's eating your battery up
then, you can freeze/greenify the culprit.
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Still Same Problem No Solution
Battery drains in real time
hi my ZR is 1 month old , when i had 4.2 i got screen on time of 6 1/2 hours , after 4.3 update iam getting 6 3/4 hrs , looks like battery drains
very fast than the review done in GSM arena , i dint make any calls i just make continuous browsing for around 6+ hrs browsing the battery dies
madhoosudhanan said:
hi my ZR is 1 month old , when i had 4.2 i got screen on time of 6 1/2 hours , after 4.3 update iam getting 6 3/4 hrs , looks like battery drains
very fast than the review done in GSM arena , i dint make any calls i just make continuous browsing for around 6+ hrs browsing the battery dies
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to me your battery stands good for 6+ hours browsing ... it's lcd drains battery
sijav said:
to me your battery stands good for 6+ hours browsing ... it's lcd drains battery
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as per GSM arena it should with stan 11hrs browsing
This seems to be common problem with Z, ZR phones after upgrading to Android 4.3.
I have the same issue and as I can see from the consumption meter, the Android OS draining 80% of the battery?!
This is more than strange and Sony must do something about this ASAP!
If someone found solution, please post it.
I've tried everything I could find on the net, but nothing helped. Even when phone is on full standby over night, everything switched off (WiFi,BT, MD, all processes that can be stopped), battery draining is 2% per hour.
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Ness_a said:
This seems to be common problem with Z, ZR phones after upgrading to Android 4.3.
I have the same issue and as I can see from the consumption meter, the Android OS draining 80% of the battery?!
This is more than strange and Sony must do something about this ASAP!
If someone found solution, please post it.
I've tried everything I could find on the net, but nothing helped. Even when phone is on full standby over night, everything switched off (WiFi,BT, MD, all processes that can be stopped), battery draining is 2% per hour.
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Battery is wonderful after .101 update , able to browse continuously for 8 hrs with WIFI
previously it was for 6+ hrs.........
I really don't know if this method improves battery life, But, back to my previous phone (Xperia Ray), there was a method where you could improve its RAM management on ICS Firmware (2011 Xperia owners know very well that Stock ICS Lags). By Installing "Disable Service" from playstore and Disabling The "LoadAverageService" from the SystemUI app. I have done this already on my ZR and I feel like it is much better. Anyone rooted can try this, its safe.
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[Question/Discussion] Severe battery drain in PIE stock May and June

I bought this phone 2 weeks ago, and soon rooted it and installed May Update via Fastboot.
While I'm generally happy with this phone, there's serious battery drain issue due to a particular wakelock called IPCRTR_lpass_rx. While there are others like RILJ etc. they are still not that severe.
I've tried Wifi on + data off, both on, both off, Only Sim 1 activated, both sims activated.
After this, I even put my mobile on flight mode for a night and there was around 20% drain overnight. In my previous mobile Redmi 3S, there would hardly be 1% drain over night on flight mode and 3-4% if Wifi was on.
I was tracking these using BetterBatteryStats, however, while tracing the root cause, i even uninstalled BBS and used the system in-built bug report and analyzed it on battery historian to track the wakelocks and all.
Then came June update. I clean flashed through the unofficial fastboot, formatted data partition as well so as to leave no stone unturned. Again the same situation. A lot of battery drain.
Here are some reports -
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Please see the attached graph.
1. At around 6.30 PM (UTC) (graph times are in UTC) (12 AM IST) I kept my phone on flight mode at 50% battery and slept for 8 hours.
2. I woke up around 3.30 AM UTC (in the graph) (i.e, 9 AM IST) and checked my battery percentage. It was down to 30% from 50%.
3. Checked the main cause of wakeups, not much in Userspace wakelocks but massive amounts of kernel wakelocks from IPCRTR_lpass_rx. For the duration of this graph, there were over a million (2.3 x 10^6) wakelocks from this service, causing wakelocks every 2-3 seconds.
4. Even though phone went into full doze after some time, this wakelock continued.
Any suggestions on how to go about solving this?
Running June update, Rooted + cam2api enabled using Magisk patched boot img
Its been a month since i moved to a custom ROM, currently on Havoc OS 2.7
The severety of the bug is lesser than stock ROM, however, still quite random and causes battery drain and keeps CPU awake!
Check the wake sources, IPCRTR_lpass_rx is the number one wakelock with 10^6 wakelocks!! Thats way too huge in my opinion, and keeps my CPU awake.
At least i can prevent the wakelock to a large extent by turning off location, wifi (or both) in Havoc. It also doesn't occur during flight mode, or if it does sometimes, a restart usually solves the problem for me.
Ideally, even if i keep wifi on, battery should not drain more than 4-5% overnight (which was the case in all of my previous phones, and in my friends' phones other than Mi A2).
This is december now. And so far, the only problem i have with this device is the poor battery, intensified with software problems, poor modem and LPASS!!!
Its kind of frustrating for me.
Please see the screenshots and the attached bugreport.
rahulmanpur said:
This is december now. And so far, the only problem i have with this device is the poor battery, intensified with software problems, poor modem and LPASS!!!
Its kind of frustrating for me.
Please see the screenshots and the attached bugreport.
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Well, i'm very satisfied with battery on this device. It could be better, but it's only 3000mah.
This ss was taken yesterday.
rahulmanpur said:
At least i can prevent the wakelock to a large extent by turning off location, wifi (or both) in Havoc. It also doesn't occur during flight mode, or if it does sometimes, a restart usually solves the problem for me.
Ideally, even if i keep wifi on, battery should not drain more than 4-5% overnight (which was the case in all of my previous phones, and in my friends' phones other than Mi A2).
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Could you find what this Lpass wakelock mean? It occured 3720k times in 5 hours for me.
Unreal!

Question What is your standby drain? mAh per hour

Hello guys,
Can you post some details about your average screen off consumption ?
And some details about the variant/conditions like : Exynos/Snapdragon, 12GB/16GB, 5G/4G, mobile data, wifi, Bluetooth on, dual/single-sim use, AOD on etc.
You can use Accubattery or similar app to test it.
I am at 34.3mah/hour.
Exynos, 12GB, 4G, mobile data, wifi, Bluetooth on, dual-sim, aod off
Edit: i think the ROM Will also be relevant. I am on AUB9
0.4%/h with AUB6. before AUB6 was 0.7-0.8%/h
512 exynos, wifi/4g, aod on tap, bluetooth when needed, AUB 9
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adamlee2012 said:
Mines absolutely amazing since I uninstalled Naptime and galaxy max Hz. Not sure which was one draining my battery but now it's perfect.
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Sorry 0.1% per hour screen off drain time seems almost implausible
I get like 0.6/0.7% per hour screen off drain overnight on WiFi and most things turned off (don't need nfc, Bluetooth, location etc. whilst I'm sleeping). Goes up if I'm using the phone
Did you see an instant improvement removing those apps or was it gradual? Did you deep sleep apps yourself or let the system do it?
adamlee2012 said:
Saw instant improvement. I had galaxy max Hz disabled for battery optimization which could have been the reason.
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What else have you done to optimise? I have both installed but might try it tonight.
Can't hurt to try, quite liked the notification bar refresh rate notification but can live without. My battery life is reasonable but can always be improved
adamlee2012 said:
Mines absolutely amazing since I uninstalled Naptime and galaxy max Hz. Not sure which was one draining my battery but now it's perfect.
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It is hard to believe, but it is very clear. Are you on Exynos or snapdragon? I use maxHZ, but it is optimised and I don't see it to be on consumption list.
adamlee2012 said:
Exynos. Couldn't figure out why after a factory reset my battery was still ****. But I did put both them apps back on my device. Then instantly got better battery once uninstalled.
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I will try to disable maxHZ and see if that changes anything. Were you on airplane mode This? This is the best I got on AUB9.
adamlee2012 said:
Exynos. Couldn't figure out why after a factory reset my battery was still ****. But I did put both them apps back on my device. Then instantly got better battery once uninstalled.
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So I deleted both naptime and Galaxy Hz (it's worth noting the latter doesn't need to be unoptimized in settings).
Looked like Accubattery is buggy on my phone (S21U Exynos) as it claimed I lost 0% in 8 hours of screen off, but 5% in the 10 seconds of SOT I had. (Stupidly deleted the app without screenshotting)
GSAM as shown below shows it was actually 5% in just over 8 hours but appears that my Naptime behaviour was still implemented despite removing the app (forcing doze without motion sensors makes it stay in light doze with all the characteristics of deep doze).
So from my brief one night study, no discernible difference having Galaxy hz installed and optimised vs uninstalled. Am reinstalling Naptime to try and get it to turn off and see what happens tonight.
adamlee2012 said:
No airplane mode just 2g only and WiFi.
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Nice just made a routine to switch to 2G and turn off mobile data when at home and connected to wifi, this should increase battery even more
Galaxy Labs has battery optimizing modules. One of them tells you which apps sip what amount of battery.

Question High battery usage? Even when I'm sleeping?

The device is new, has only 2 weeks of use and I've updated it to MiUi 12.5.6 (RKLEUXM). My use is very moderate, some videos, social network just for conversations and only wi-fi connection. After the update, I noticed high battery usage even when I'm sleeping with all connections turned off. Obviously there is some battery thief, but it only appears in the graph as "smartphone services", this is not normal. Any idea?
I can even feel the phone a little warm around the cameras when I'm using it for basic stuff.
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Try battery guru's app...
It's seem a 12.5 MIUI problem for all Xiaomi note 10 series
Something(s) are running in the background.
Try putting into Safe mode at night to rule out 3rd party apps.
Track down the culprits and deal with each on a case by case basis.
I have this device since August 27th, after setting it up, I started optimizing it, restricted background use for a lot of apps, well, everything that could be disabled or restricted, I only gave free pass to apps I consider important, but, the reults were really bad, 17% of overnight drain! Long story short, the optimization must be done very carefully, trying to stop all kind of things might prove negative, by trial and error, I now get a good battery life, now it barely consumes 1% in 8-9 hrs idling at night, aod off, wifi on, gps on, so, try to optimize your device carefully
winoles said:
I have this device since August 27th, after setting it up, I started optimizing it, restricted background use for a lot of apps, well, everything that could be disabled or restricted, I only gave free pass to apps I consider important, but, the reults were really bad, 17% of overnight drain! Long story short, the optimization must be done very carefully, trying to stop all kind of things might prove negative, by trial and error, I now get a good battery life, now it barely consumes 1% in 8-9 hrs idling at night, aod off, wifi on, gps on, so, try to optimize your device carefully
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Hi,
Did you single out what was the culrpit. I have disabled every non essential app, tried this solution: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/improving-battery-life-on-miui-12.4139913/
But nothing helps. It only shows that android system is drawing power.
I will be glad if you could point what you made to fix your phone
If there is any Firewall that can log with the newer "secure" OS's you can use that to help pinpoint the rogue apk(s).
With Pie I use Karma Firewall but it's logging feature doesn't starting with 10.
After doing everything I could think of, the AOD seems to be the culprit, even thoug I really like it, when disabling it, overnight battery consumption lowered to 1% in a 7 hrs period
winoles said:
After doing everything I could think of, the AOD seems to be the culprit, even thoug I really like it, when disabling it, overnight battery consumption lowered to 1% in a 7 hrs period
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Thank you for the fast reply. I already had it disabled, but with no positive result.
Thank you, nonetheless.
winoles said:
After doing everything I could think of, the AOD seems to be the culprit, even thoug I really like it, when disabling it, overnight battery consumption lowered to 1% in a 7 hrs period
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Is tap on an option?
No, to achieve this low bat comsuption, I disabled miui optimizations, then, the option for aod is on or off, no more settings, I really like the aod, but the drain while idling drives me nuts... I painfully miss my galaxy note 10+.....
Meh, I hear that. It's to the point I got a second new 10+ while they're still available. They are the last of the stock devices running on Q.
I won't touch 11 or 12. Funny thing is it doesn't run like an outdated dinosaur.
Been a real bad year for Android...
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Question MIUI 13. Is battery really any better?

Xiaomi claims that battery life has improved by around 10% for the Mi 11 on MIUI 13. I really like the phone but the battery is one of its weaker points, so I was wondering if the battery life really does improve by 10% like they claim or whether it actually gets worse with the update. I still have not received the global release so I cannot judge for myself.
I received the EEA miui 13 update (mi pilot) and I must say battery life increased after enabled "Suspend Execution for cached apps" option from developer options. Other than I can't say anything because immediately enabled this option when I installed the update but I saw others complain about the battery who received (probably they don't have knowledge about this trick). So I'm pretty satified with the battery life on this update.
nerve1004 said:
I received the EEA miui 13 update (mi pilot) and I must say battery life increased after enabled "Suspend Execution for cached apps" option from developer options. Other than I can't say anything because immediately enabled this option when I installed the update but I saw others complain about the battery who received (probably they don't have knowledge about this trick). So I'm pretty satified with the battery life on this update.
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What exactly does "Suspend Execution for cached apps" mean? Also, could you give me a ballpark percentage of the battery improvement?
based on source code comments:“Freeze apps when cached and unfreeze them once removed from the cache or killed. Frozen apps will not use any CPU cycles, reducing power consumption for misbehaving processes which might attempt to run while cached,”
For my usage the idle drain is better.. Battery drained 4-5% overnight (8hrs of sleep) instead of 8-10%. The SOT also better 12-13% instead of 16-17% per hour. In the other hand the new rom has new bugs but the battery life increased with this setting at least.
With last MIUI 13 battery life is clearly 10% worse for me. I have even did a factory reset and flashed again the full rom in recovery, and no improvement.
nerve1004 said:
based on source code comments:“Freeze apps when cached and unfreeze them once removed from the cache or killed. Frozen apps will not use any CPU cycles, reducing power consumption for misbehaving processes which might attempt to run while cached,”
For my usage the idle drain is better.. Battery drained 4-5% overnight (8hrs of sleep) instead of 8-10%. The SOT also better 12-13% instead of 16-17% per hour. In the other hand the new rom has new bugs but the battery life increased with this setting at least.
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wow if those numbers apply to me i'd call that a significant improvement, 50% less consumption in idle and 30% less in SOT really is worth it. Just to confirm though, i don't quite understand what enabling suspend execution for cached apps actually does practically speaking in a day to day usage experience.
M.Walaa said:
wow if those numbers apply to me i'd call that a significant improvement, 50% less consumption in idle and 30% less in SOT really is worth it. Just to confirm though, i don't quite understand what enabling suspend execution for cached apps actually does practically speaking in a day to day usage experience.
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Well, by those source code comments above, I would say that it completely freezes the background apps that are cached in RAM. So Viber, Whatsapp and stuff like that can't work/sync in the background, hence the lesser battery drain.
@nerve1004 is there any whitelist possibility? Do you get notifications from messaging apps in the background?
@b0nebreaker Messaging apps and notifications don't afftected. I think the process recognize apps automatically. I never miss a single notification since it's enabled. I updated just because of this new android feature. Xiaomi enabled to switch on from dev options fortunately.
nerve1004 said:
@b0nebreaker Messaging apps and notifications don't afftected. I think the process recognize apps automatically. I never miss a single notification since it's enabled. I updated just because of this new android feature. Xiaomi enabled to switch on from dev options fortunately.
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Interesting. I found that option in Evolution-X (Android 11) on my phone, I'll try it
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Interesting. I found that option in Evolution-X (Android 11) on my phone, I'll try it
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On A11 some apps interrupted so be aware.
battery life worse by 10-15% after update... and yes "suspend execution..." is enabled
Battery life is just excellent in EEA MIUI 13 13.0.4, clean flash. Better than Xiaomi.eu for me
Since MIUI 13 update, charging speed is randomly slow, i need to reboot it. Damn, never had such an awful smartphone
Has anybody managed to fix the battery drain?
I have to charge the phone 3x during the day, the drain is faster on standby than during use...
I don't know what's wrong on your side but you needs to check your settings. My battery life still decent. I disabled 5G and debloated digital wellbeing and facebook stuffs and I use facebook from browser. Screen is on FHD+ @ 60hz that's all I did.
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We don't even have 5G, also [email protected], max SOT time I get is 2-3 Hours...
Screen and Android system are two top battery users, so nothing out of ordinary...
Before MIUI 13, I would get 5 Hours of SOT
If I were you I would do a clean flash with miflash and don't restore anything from backup. Once it helped a lot for me when 12.5 arrived. Anyway 12.5 was worse and enhanced even worse in battery life for my usage.
I would say battery life it is okay. Nothing compared to 12.5 where with my same usage I would do 9%/h. Unluckily there is this android system battery drain bug.

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