Mediapad M3 Review - Huawei Mediapad M3 Guides, News, & Discussion

I got the 64GB model from Amazon for $300 during the deals last week. I wanted an 8" tablet for media and games (especially emulators) but with more CPU power than my Tab S 8.4 (gave to my wife). The Tab S 8.4 was great for media, but the chipset is weak for emulators since they are CPU heavy. Besides the build that is very good, here is a line item summary review:
Sound: Stereo is surprising full in spite of side firing. Loud in a good way. Watched some bits from concerts and movies- sound was better than expected.
Display: Even when set to 1080p the display looks great (did not expect this either). Movies, comics, pictures- all look great.
Wifi: Very good stability and range (better than the Tab S and equal or better than iPad Pro)
UI: I do not like it (too iOS), but do appreciate the 1080p scaling option. I am using Nova until the US version gets the 5 update (want the app drawer and ability to sort alphabetically- lot of apps)
Speed: Device is smooth and ditto for games in 1080p or 2K
Thermals: Device does not appear to get hot even after heavy use
Battery life seems good for IPS, but not ready to place estimates. Once again though, it appears better than expected.
Emulators: I have tested many devices including the Tab S2, S3, current Asus Zenpad and currently own the 8+ with 835 chipset. The Media Pad blows them all away for the higher CPU emulators like Dolphin, MAME and PSP. The 8+ is the near equal, but throttles after using Dolphin for ten minutes- no throttle causing stutter with the Mediapad and the device again does not get hot.
Even CPU heavy games like Rival Schools play smooth in MAME. The 8+ with 835 does not play smooth.
Factoring price and performance and my usage profile, I give the Mediapad M3 a 9/10. The UI though IMO needs to be stock Android rather than an iPad clone.

I could have written this review, my wife is also using my old Tab S 8.4 I agree with everything you have said, it really is a great piece of hardware. The only thing I can't agree with is the native desktop - I put Action Launcher on every phone/tablet I have so I never even notice what emui is like.
This tablet, rooted with twrp on it and running nougat makes me very happy.

So you can play the Dolphin emulator quite well?
Like what speeds do you get and on what games?

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Speed?

So, how does this thing compare to an iPad and iPad 2 in speed?
While the GTablet, has better specs for about $50 more... The one area Viewsonic cut corners on is the one area IMO- you shouldn't: the screen.
So the closest things are the iPad and iPad 2.
Now, I recognize, this is 50% the cost of the iPad 2. I was just wondering how it COMPARES IN SPEED to the iPad 2 or GTablet????
The closest relative is probably the original iPad. How does it compare to that? For $50 more, I could get the original iPad. I didn't know if it was worth the extra $50 or not.
Its hard to compare speeds due to them being different OSes. An iPad is smoother, but I think my Nook is more versatile.
I would put the Nook Color a bit ahead of the original iPad.
I think their processors are roughly equivalent, but the Nook Color has twice the RAM of the original iPad - 512 instead of 256MB
The iPad offers a great out-of-box experience. Its OS has hardware graphics acceleration, so it feels smoother when swiping and stuff.
The Nook gives you the ability to customize everything. And Flash. Flash will probably never come to any iPads.
All true.
The Asus Eee Pad looks promising, too. Better specs, $400. Worth $150 more, I dunno. Definitely a better deal than the iPad but cost/benefit ratio...... I dunno.
The $250 price tag (was on sale for $200 via B&N few weeks back) MORE than justifies buying the NC than the ipad, especially with the development community Android has...
sorry, I never replied to the original question...the iPad has a little smoother transitions when swiping screens etc, but IMO everything else is just as fast if not faster on the NC.
TexUs said:
So, how does this thing compare to an iPad and iPad 2 in speed?
While the GTablet, has better specs for about $50 more... The one area Viewsonic cut corners on is the one area IMO- you shouldn't: the screen.
So the closest things are the iPad and iPad 2.
Now, I recognize, this is 50% the cost of the iPad 2. I was just wondering how it COMPARES IN SPEED to the iPad 2 or GTablet????
The closest relative is probably the original iPad. How does it compare to that? For $50 more, I could get the original iPad. I didn't know if it was worth the extra $50 or not.
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Our familiy has an iPad, Gtablet (tnt 4.2.5) and a NC stock rom 1.1.0 rooted with Autonooter 3.0
The iPad is by far the fastest and smoothest in terms of response to scrolling, etc... No problems as long as you can live with the apps from apple. No software maintenance issues.
As OP pointed out, the Gtablet (available from $300 now) has a poor display. However if you hold the tablet at a normal viewing angle, there's no problem. Has flash, no wifi issues, runs froyo. Battery life ~8 hours.
The NC as I have it configured is good if you want a 7" device. It does have wifi issues. I have kept it at stock in order to use it as a book reader with the stock app. Speed is noticeably slower than the Gtablet.
When I am flying, I take my NC. When going to work with my backpack. I take my Gtablet.
stock rooted eclair with O/c is pretty fast. who cares about the MaxiPad?
the nook is way more versatile.
for sure swiping etc. is more smoother on ipads. ipad 2 is also faster. however having in mind form factor, price & os system i went for nook color. now, with cm7 on board i do not regret decision at all. depends really what u like
Well obviously I expected the iPad to be smoother...
Just like Android vs iOS... iOS is smoother but in all honesty- it's just an illusion of faster speed due to the transitional effects. It smooths them over verses Android clunking by- speed is the same though. (assuming hardware is the same).
I was talking about the actual speed though. Time to launch a webpage, app, menus, etc... Is the NC roughly equivalent to the iPad 1 in these areas? It appears so from the responses?
How does the NC/iPad 1 compare to the GTablet/iPad 2? Is dual core significantly faster? (I have yet to use either a dual core tablet or phone- I don't know how much benefit dual core actually is to a device like this yet- web browsing only requires a certain amount of power).
To the poster with a GTablet, it was one I was looking at. However- for $100 more the Eee Pad has better specs and an IPS display... I think it's a no-brainer to wait out the Eee Pad once I go over the $300 mark.
I had a Nook Color with customized Nookie Froyo 6.8.5. No wifi issues and overclocked 1.1Ghz. Just last weekend, I used my friends iPad2 for about an hour. The iPad2 is smooth swiping and all, but when it came down to surfing the web, it is just a bid faster than the Nook. Keep in mind that last week my Nook was still running at 800mhz. On the iPad2, I surfed my usual websites such as techbargains, slickdeals, dpreview, xda, etc. I really felt good about the Nook as it was almost as fast while surfing the net. Yes, swipping from screen to screen to find apps is fast, but in surfing the net, the iPad2 was just a tad faster than the Nook. All in all, the Nook is just awesome what it offers for $250 and you convert it to a Nookie.
Oh, also Flash is a big thing for me which runs fine on the Nook. I couldn't get onto sites such as mysoju.com on the iPad2. What a shame.
TexUs said:
Well obviously I expected the iPad to be smoother...
Just like Android vs iOS... iOS is smoother but in all honesty- it's just an illusion of faster speed due to the transitional effects. It smooths them over verses Android clunking by- speed is the same though. (assuming hardware is the same).
I was talking about the actual speed though. Time to launch a webpage, app, menus, etc... Is the NC roughly equivalent to the iPad 1 in these areas? It appears so from the responses?
How does the NC/iPad 1 compare to the GTablet/iPad 2? Is dual core significantly faster? (I have yet to use either a dual core tablet or phone- I don't know how much benefit dual core actually is to a device like this yet- web browsing only requires a certain amount of power).
To the poster with a GTablet, it was one I was looking at. However- for $100 more the Eee Pad has better specs and an IPS display... I think it's a no-brainer to wait out the Eee Pad once I go over the $300 mark.
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I have an iPad 1 and a Nook Color w/ CM7 (stock kernal)..although it's technically my wife's. The iPad 1 is about the same as the Nook in terms of launching apps (equivalent apps). Launching a cross word puzzle on the Nook is faster than a 1GB 3D game on the iPad for obvious reasons. Web browsing is a lot faster on the iPad as well in terms of loading pages, scrolling, zooming, etc... The iPad also does 3D rendering magnitudes better (although I think that's more of a software issue at the moment).
The iPad 1 is also a lot smoother, but it looks like you don't care about that, and I don't really either. I.e. angry birds runs smooth on the Nook Color, but when you run it side by side with the iPad same stage and launch a bird at the same time, you can easily tell the iPad runs smoother.
A lot of posters are saying the iPad 1 is slower, but I'm thinking they aren't using the latest software released in March. In terms of speed, it goes Nook Color stock < iPad 1 (older software) < Nook Color (Froyo/GB rom) < iPad 1 (iOS 4.3.1). Note that this was me manually timing everything by launching and using apps at the same time. Benchmarks might show a different story.
I've got an up-to-date iPad 1st gen (iOS v4.3.1) and a Nook Color running Phiremod 5.3.
The iPad is much faster and smoother, especially when it comes to web browsing. Skyfire on the Nook Color is painful in comparison to running on the iPad. The only speed advantage I've seen is PDFs renders faster on Android QuickOffice vs. iOS Goodreader. Apple PDF render is garbage compared to Adobe Reader on Android.
The new Opera Mobile uses the GPU for web browsing, like mobile Safari does, so it is the first web browser for Android that really competes. With that said, I like it WAY better than my wife's iPad2 for browsing thanks to a better implementation of tabs. I run CM7 with a 1.1GHz overclock.
The main limitation of the Nook Color is the GPU. The GPU is weaker than the iPad 1 or any other major mainstream tablet (Samsung Galaxy, Xoom, Transformer, etc.). You can tell when it lags on intensive 3D games.
But otherwise its an amazingly responsive device once set up properly. I think it will win in its price category for at least another 6 months or so....
i don't see the ipads as being comparable. They are a different class of "toys". The nook is just the right size for my interests, if i wanted something larger i'd prefer a laptop or at least something with a physical keyboard.
Explain this to me about performance: I can install a game like pew pew that has a ton of things whipping around the screen at what appears to be a very smooth frame rate, but then just scrolling the application listing feels like 10 fps?!
I know this isn't the latest and greatest hardware but it is 800 Mhz. 800 Mhz back in the day was more than enough for something as trivial as scrolling a list of icons. Yes this is a mobile device, but still.
I'm not into low level development, but what is the issue exactly if not hardware? Android's OS? Are the icons vector images for scalability purposes but cause slow down due to redraw or something? If so, maybe they should be rasterized first.
It just seems that even on a lower end tablet such as this, smooth scrolling should be possible in most cases. Meaning at least menu's icons. I can understand complex webpages not smooth scrolling/zooming etc (well even then, you'd think 800mhz could do a better job if things were optimized more.) but the normal interface to the OS should be smooth.
Android does not use GPU based acceleration in its phone OS. That is why iOS feels smoother, as Apple has doen that since the beginning.
To get around this you need to use apps that DO use the GPU, such as Opera for web-browsing or Launcher Pro for your app drawer.
I just tried Opera and it seems a bit smoother I guess, but nothing dramatic.
I didn't know launcher pro uses acceleration.
You'd think by now it would be standardized to use gpu accel throughout the os.
Ok launcher pro is much more smooth!!
Is there a list of apps that use hardware acceleration?
I understand that android is on numerous devices but how come a launcher or a browser can do it on various hardware but the OS itself and most apps don't?
Is google trying to make hardware acceleration part of honeycomb?
Is there initiative to get this going in some mods like cyanogen?
I think the sluggish experience turns off a lot of new users when in fact the hardware is more capable than what it seems.

Pros and Cons nookcolor post yours here!

What's your pros and cons of the nookcolor? Post yours here
Pros. Cons.
Nice design. No camera
Slim. processor speed
Screen quality. Needs universalsal cable
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No camera
No GPS
No microphone
No strong bluetooth range
A little too wide
A little heavy
Hackable
Virtually unbrickable
uSD bootable
IPS screen
Pro: Good battery life.
Pro: No locked bootloader.
Con: B&N lack of meaningful developer support.
Con: Workarounds required to get some apps to work.
Some of these Pros and Cons posted are the same thing. That's like saying, Ferrari Enzo, pros and cons. Pros: wicked fast, handles great, looks amazing. Cons: only seats two, no towing package, limited ground clearance, poor gas mileage.
If your NC had GPS, faster processor, bigger screen, camera, 3G/4G radio, long-range bluetooth and all that stuff (just coming up with low-hanging fruit of "cons"), then it would lose the awesome battery life, compact size, low price, etc. It'd be an iPad!
Pros: awesome battery life, very stable, extremely hackable, excellent community developer support, very low price, and INCLUDES uSD SLOT
Cons: flawed audio output hardware design (requires external amp), lacking support for any microphone (even external/bluetooth)
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Some of these Pros and Cons posted are the same thing. That's like saying, Ferrari Enzo, pros and cons. Pros: wicked fast, handles great, looks amazing. Cons: only seats two, no towing package, limited ground clearance, poor gas mileage.
If your NC had GPS, faster processor, bigger screen, camera, 3G/4G radio, long-range bluetooth and all that stuff (just coming up with low-hanging fruit of "cons"), then it would lose the awesome battery life, compact size, low price, etc. It'd be an iPad!
Pros: awesome battery life, very stable, extremely hackable, excellent community developer support, very low price, and INCLUDES uSD SLOT
Cons: flawed audio output hardware design (requires external amp), lacking support for any microphone (even external/bluetooth)
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Uhmm, I have an NC and not an iPad due to cost, but my coworkers have iPad 2 tabs. Battery life on those is actually amazing, so I wouldn't try to state the NC is superior to iPad on bat life. Granted, if using CM7 the "deep sleep" works better, but during actual performance of daily tasks? iPad stomps all over NC.
Why? Becuase to get the performance I demand, I have to OC to 1200Mhz and then the battery is totally Donkey!
PROS:
Amazing developer environment on XDA and CyanogenMod
It's got an IPS screen for under $200.00
Amazingly overclockable, 1200Mhz without volt mods.
Features built into device even though original vendor doesn't use or market these (namely BlueTooth).
Elegant design, used on NT as well because it's pretty fresh even today.
microSD slot that is primary boot device, enabling easy ROM replacements.
CONS:
Original vendor support tied to their own online store but lacking significant dev attraction.
BlueTooth range is much less than 10 "inches". (range does matter folks!)
Elegant case is also kinda fragile feeling, cracks abound around charging/usb port.
Touch features are not precision across the display, frequently multiple attempts required towards edge of display.
Any OC beyond 1000Mhz really drags down the battery during use. Gamers get about 2+ hours and need recharge.
512Mb RAM really limits future OS support, ICS CM9 works but you've gotta throttle RAM use by a significant amount to stay stable at this point.
Video HWA not working yet in CM9, works in CM7 but don't expect flawless 720P use on NetFlix (even using 100Mbps metro ethernet).
Pro's: Love my NC and wouldn't trade it for anything under $500 retail.
Con's: The charging solution is crap. It's like a company department designed the device and they farmed out how to power it to a bunch of temps.
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Why? Becuase to get the performance I demand, I have to OC to 1200Mhz and then the battery is totally Donkey!
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I can say with authority, you are doing it wrong. The batt on my NC, even with overclocking, blows away any iPad. But bear in mind, iPad is a bigger device and has therefore room for a bigger battery.
[*]Amazingly overclockable, 1200Mhz without volt mods
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[*]Any OC beyond 1000Mhz really drags down the battery during use. Gamers get about 2+ hours and need recharge.
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You need to adjust the voltage settings, brightness, and governor settings in order to get max battery life.
I don't know what game you are playing, but I actually watched HD movies on my NC for 10 straight hours on one plane trip. I don't play games much but I am sure HD movies require similar CPU.
from my point of view, availability of nook color itself is a pro
there are no cons. worth every penny, especially at the time it was released.
Yes I agree, the nook is a pro
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I don't know what game you are playing, but I actually watched HD movies on my NC for 10 straight hours on one plane trip. I don't play games much but I am sure HD movies require similar CPU.
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If this is correct then my own NC is the problem as I don't get anywhere that much use out of a full charge.
As for games I'm playing, currently it's Angry Bird's Space.
I've never had 10hrs screen-on straight so I can't say for sure but with deep sleep, my NC lasts 10 days and still has roughly 45% juice in the tank, with that rate, it will be 3 weeks when it's close to empty.

Nexus 7 vs Ipad 3: Complete List

what do you guys think of this list for advantages to both devises including Software and hardware,
Nexus 7 AU$299 16GB
More portable
Easier one handed use
Much lighter
NFC
Proximity Sensor
GPS
Better voice assistant (faster, better Voice, accurate)
Better search bar
dedicated digital buttons
True multitasking
advanced notification system
Open system
More free apps
Faster charging
More sharing options
Better google integration (YouTube, Maps,Gmail)
16:10 format
Launchers
Lock screens
Live wallpapers
Widgets
Music/Video players
Messaging/keyboard apps
More Durable
microusb support
Slightly Better performance, it does benchmark higher than the ipad when doing heavy usage task, due to quad core gpu
better for gaming (desirable form factor, weight)
better for reading ebooks (desirable form factor, weight)
faster booting
Better battery life
Better Front facing camera (1.3mp,720p vs 0.3mp 480p)
Easier scaling from Phone apps
No Heating Issues
Total: 34
Ipad 3 AU$539 16GB
Natural Whites
Brighter
Colour accuracy
Viewing angles Phonearena
Bigger screen - Better Viewing
-Documents
-Photos
-Web browsing
-Videos
Thinner
Higher PPi
Rear facing camera
Apple integration
More accessories
less ad-ware on AppStore
Less Low quality Apps
Better Exclusive Games
Better optimized tablet apps
Better Video Audio
Total: 17
cyprusx said:
Whats up guys Im making another Versus vid for youtube, what do you guys think of this list for advantages to both devises including Software and hardware, If i have missed something or made an error plz let me know, thanks boys
Nexus 7 AU$299 16GB
More portable
Easier one handed use
Ergonomic
Much lighter
NFC
Proximity Sensor
GPS
Better voice assistant (faster, better Voice, accurate)
Better search bar
dedicated digital buttons
True multitasking
advanced notification system
Open system
More free apps
Faster charging
More sharing options
Better google integration
16:10 format
Launchers
Lock screens
Live wallpapers
Widgets
Music/Video players
Messaging/keyboard apps
More Durable
microusb support
Slightly Better performance, it does benchmark higher than the ipad when doing heavy usage task, due to quad core gpu
better for gaming (desirable form factor, weight)
better for reading ebooks (desirable form factor, weight)
faster booting
Better battery life
Easier scaling from Phone apps
Total: 31
Ipad 3 AU$539 16GB
Natural Whites
Viewing angles
Bigger screen - Better Viewing
-Documents
-Photos
-Web browsing
-Videos
Thinner
Higher PPi
Rear facing camera
Much better Front facing camera
Better gestures
Apple integration
More accessories
less ad-ware on AppStore
4x AppStore Devs
Better optimized tablet apps
Premium Feel
Better Audio?
Total: 19
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So this is the reason I've seen so many iPad users think or actually get the nexus 7 to replace their iPad!! Cheers dude, and yeah slightly better audio.
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Nexus 7 has a quad core CPU and a 12 core GPU. VS iPad's dualcore CPU and GPU, but iPad has line-out for audiophiles with external DAC's
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Nexus 7 has a quad core CPU and a 12 core GPU. VS iPad's dualcore CPU and GPU, but iPad has line-out for audiophiles with external DAC's
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hey mate have you seen any CPU benchmarks comparing the ipad to the nexus
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hey mate have you seen any CPU benchmarks comparing the ipad to the nexus
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Benchmarks are interesting but useless, try running IOS with nvidia tegra 3 the results would be different. Don't quote me but I think the reason android score less sometimes is because of the OS itself
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I wouldn't say the iPad3 front facing camera is actually any better.
The only test that I have seen that compared them was fatally flawed because it failed to do a Android -> Android Google Talk chat, instead bizarrely opting for a Ipad -> Android cross platform, cross protocol chat...
Shouldn't the price be up there? You can buy 2x Nexus7's for the price of 1 iPad.... Also when comparing tablet apps, the Android tablet apps tend to be as good, if not better than iPad tablet apps. There aren't as many (currently) however.
You can also add:
Cheaper / Easier to develop on Android ($25 one off fee Mac/Win/Linux/Onboard dev enviroments, VS $100 a year for iOS and you have to buy a Mac)
USB Host mode and MTP transfers (drag and drop content - No iTunes tiein)
WAY better bundled apps (Google Maps for example)
Wireless app installs (don't think Apple has this)
LEGAL sideloading without having to jailbreak and void warranty.,
Custom ROMS
Does the Nexus 7 have DLNA
Yea its strange even tho the nexus has higher mb for the camera the ipads seems better
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRS7YaJIEsw&feature=results_main&playnext=1&list=PL54999AB91D35C39F
Seems like an ok list except for the "Premium Feel" and "Better Audio". I got rid of my iPad 3 for the Nexus 7 and to me the Nexus 7 feels way better than the iPad 3 (AKA "New"). Audio, to me at least, is better on the Nexus 7.
I can definitely say I enjoy the Nexus 7 more than the iPad 3, it's so much more fun.
Op said something about the Nexus keyboard apps but on both devices can a Bluetooth keyboard work?
i did a google chat with my friend side by side and i thought the video he was seeing from my nexus 7 was actually very decent..
i know it seems obvious to compare it to the ipad but the size difference alone makes it quite difficult.. its like comparing apples to....
i think the video quality sucks only when you use Skype for Video Call, since the Nexus 7 is not certified by Skype
Nexus 7, no need to load the iTunes malware package.
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To me it seemed like battery life was better on my iPad, but my nexus 7 charges ALOT faster.
Remove 'better viewing angle' from iPad3. Brightness falls off significantly on the iPad3 if not directly centered in front. IMHO, Nexus 7 has better viewing angle.
You can add usb controller support and play store access for the nexus 7. Since I had an android phone, that was a big reason i switched to the nexus 7.
Don't forget to add the most important feature the movable left screen *sarcasm* this third unit better be good
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does the wifi ipad 3 have a GPS
iPad gestures are very cool, and I love using them. However, I just installed GMD Gesture Control and they work even better on the N7. Plus, you can customize them in any way you want! Best $5 I've spent on the play store.
I think the new iPad wins for full-size PDF, gaming, basic browsing, and draining your credit card. For everything else, there's the nexus 7 . I seriously love this thing!
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Remove 'better viewing angle' from iPad3. Brightness falls off significantly on the iPad3 if not directly centered in front. IMHO, Nexus 7 has better viewing angle.
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My iPad 3 looks perfect from any angle without fading. However I'd also removing this as a pro because I think the Nexus 7 looks just as good at angles. Both are IPS displays, so viewing angles really shouldn't be an issue.
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iPad gestures are very cool, and I love using them. However, I just installed GMD Gesture Control and they work even better on the N7. Plus, you can customize them in any way you want! Best $5 I've spent on the play store.
I think the new iPad wins for full-size PDF, gaming, basic browsing, and draining your credit card. For everything else, there's the nexus 7 . I seriously love this thing!
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And by gaming, I mean overall selection. The size and feel in your hands is far superior for gaming on the N7.

Upgrade to S2 from NV Shield K1?

I currently use an Nvidia Shield K1 for a carputer. Google Maps, music, Audible, Hangouts, etc. My only complaint is the aggressive memory management. Nvidia designed it to kill apps frequently in order to optimize gaming. So, you have to relaunch apps when task switching. It has nothing to do with amount of available memory.
Best Buy has the S2 9.7" (T813) for $280. Couple questions:
- Does it multitask well and quickly?
- Does the OTG + Charge work reliably?
- Does the screen work well in reverse landscape (buttons on the left)?
- Is the touch screen responsive?
- Is the GPS reliable?
I've RTFA with answers to some of the above questions, but I'd like to get a general idea of how this compares to a Shield K1. TIA.
I don't have the Shield, but I can answer most of those:
1) Yeah, it's snappy and switches tasks quickly.
2) Nope - this beast doesn't quick charge, so at best you can hold steady if the screen is on while it is charging. If you push the SoC, it will actually still drain the battery, just at a much reduced rate, on the charger.
3) Screen is excellent. I have used it in nearly every orientation just fine.
4) I haven't had any issues with the touch interface on mine. It works as expected.
5) I haven't used it extensively, but it seems to work as well as the GPS in my S7 Edge.
I traded my K1 in for the S2 and have never looked back. The shield is good for gaming and is an absolute bargain at the price it goes for new, but I find the tab s2 much more premium and the screen is much much better in every sense. I also prefer the size of the tab s2. I do a lot of gaming and watching media on my tablets and the S2 is great for both. Performance wise it keeps up with the k1 no problem at all, and I am one of few people who really likes touchwiz so I see that as a bonus as well! Lol
I've not really answered your questions but hopefully useful feedback none the less.
I came from the Nexus 9 and I've also never looked back.
I've a feeling the aggressive memory management is because they never put enough RAM in the shield in the first place, (just like the Nexus 9.) :crying:
I cant comment on gaming but as a retro gamer, the 4:3 screen ratio is great. Just bear in mind this tablet doesn't work with a wired Xbox 360 controller and OTG cable.
If you want to hook up to a TV, you will also need the older version of this tablet with the Exynos CPU as the newer SD652 doesn't support either MHL or Slimport.
The K1 is way heavier which makes the s2 feel nice in hand. I didn't think this would matter to me until I picked by k1 tablet up a month later and realized just how much different it feels in hand.
The k1 has far better speakers. The s2 onboard speakers are trash.
The k1 has a better screen ratio for media consumption (16:9)
the s2 has a better screen, AMOLED cannot be beat.
the s2 has much better battery life.
the s2 charges faster (although no quick charge 2.0 ).
the performance is pretty much equal between the two
My take-away is that the galaxy tab s2 is a better device.
I bought the Tab S2 9.7".
Everything about it is better except for one thing - OTG+charge requires a custom adapter. So, I have to charge the tablet separately. Otherwise, the screen is better, multitasking is better, multi-window is easier to use, and the touch screen is more responsive.
I'l hand the K1 down to the kids when they're older.
mageus said:
I bought the Tab S2 9.7".
Everything about it is better except for one thing - OTG+charge requires a custom adapter. So, I have to charge the tablet separately. Otherwise, the screen is better, multitasking is better, multi-window is easier to use, and the touch screen is more responsive.
I'l hand the K1 down to the kids when they're older.
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Well done Mageus, :highfive:
There is an app called, "All in one gestures," which you can use to swap around the order of the recents and back buttons if this annoys you coming from the K1.

iPhoneX vs Note9 benchmarks...iPhoneX wins?

https://www.tomsguide.com/us/galaxy-note-9-benchmarks,news-27773.html
I wonder about these tests although it's really comparing apples to oranges with different CPU and OS but some things can't lie, and the tests are designed to be platform independent.
I gotta say I'm slightly disappointed the snapdragon 845 performs poorer in comparison... And supposedly the Exynos version this year performs worse than the snapdragon, which is a first.
Ask me if I care??
Do you care?
nah lol
They specifically only showed the benchmarks where iPhone X beats the note. There are also many where it's the other way around and by a large margin. And anyways the note 8 still beats almost everything for everyday usage if you look at some of the real life speed test comparisons on Youtube, and also it's still the best at memory management.
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They specifically only showed the benchmarks where iPhone X beats the note. There are also many where it's the other way around and by a large margin. And anyways the note 8 still beats almost everything for everyday usage if you look at some of the real life speed test comparisons on Youtube, and also it's still the best at memory management.
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Hey if you want subway surfers to launch in 2.453 seconds the I phone X is for you. If you can spare the extra 1.123 seconds the note9 does everything else better. ?
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IPhone x is better only at the first test, when the benchmark test is run by 4 times in a row to mimick gaming, it is on of the worst devices and gets hot while the note only loses like 4-5% of performance, note 8 lost 10% or so. Don't know where I read it but someone tested it out
Benchmarks isn't the end all be all. Basically if you want a phone that scores high benchmarks then the iPhone is for you.
I'm going to use the Note 9 for the features that it has. For the customization that I can do it. The multitasking/multiple apps I can have open.
I have iDevices, you can do some multitasking, but ios doesn't compare to Android for my needs.
I will leave this here.
Speed tests are irrelevant now. Most phones these days, even budget android phones, are way faster than they have been ever before. You get what you are paying for and millisecond differences in App opening doesn't mean anything at all in real world usage. But functionality, features, and style on the other hand, is what sets Samsung phones apart from apple.
AnTuTu makes the iPhoneX look like a joke next to the Note9. Geek Bench is one of the ONLY ones that the iPhone X wins on.
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https://www.tomsguide.com/us/galaxy-note-9-benchmarks,news-27773.html
I wonder about these tests although it's really comparing apples to oranges with different CPU and OS but some things can't lie, and the tests are designed to be platform independent.
I gotta say I'm slightly disappointed the snapdragon 845 performs poorer in comparison... And supposedly the Exynos version this year performs worse than the snapdragon, which is a first.
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Samsung really messed things up with the Exynos 9810 chipset. In an effort to match iPhone's Single Core speed they ended up with a processor that runs hot and abnormally high battery drain. Hopefully the new water-carbon cooling system will overcome these deficiencies. You're lucky to have ended up with the Snapdragon variant, it eclipses the Exynos and iPhone A11 in a majority of benchmark tests.
Only the uneducated will get their panties in a twist with these tests that are rather stupid. Yeah, you might be comparing one phone to another by using one score type, but how you get to the score is different for each phone. Almost ALL benchmark tests run different algorithms between iPhones and Androids. It is actually not possible to statistically compare them together. It sure makes for a great headline grabber though.
I always go bouncing between Apple and Samsung phones(mostly Note series). Not because I can't choose one over the other, but because I just like phones in general and I'm a tech geek.
These tests are stupid, because Apple said it themselves...it's not speed that makes a great phone, it's how you use it. And to me, the complete experience that Samsung has brought to me personally, in the form of the Note series, simply can't be matched by Apple right now! Geekbench scores can show an iPhone scoring 5 times as high as my Note 9, and I would still by my Note 9 because of my user experience.
People get so caught up with the useless numbers.
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Only the uneducated will get their panties in a twist with these tests that are rather stupid. Yeah, you might be comparing one phone to another by using one score type, but how you get to the score is different for each phone. Almost ALL benchmark tests run different algorithms between iPhones and Androids. It is actually not possible to statistically compare them together. It sure makes for a great headline grabber though.
I always go bouncing between Apple and Samsung phones(mostly Note series). Not because I can't choose one over the other, but because I just like phones in general and I'm a tech geek.
These tests are stupid, because Apple said it themselves...it's not speed that makes a great phone, it's how you use it. And to me, the complete experience that Samsung has brought to me personally, in the form of the Note series, simply can't be matched by Apple right now! Geekbench scores can show an iPhone scoring 5 times as high as my Note 9, and I would still by my Note 9 because of my user experience.
People get so caught up with the useless numbers.
I used to own an iphone 8 plus. Mobile phones are built to be useful for life of a person. Okay, iphone a11 chip is a beast but what can you do EXCLUSIVELY, NOT AVAIBLE FOR OTHER ANDROID PHONES in iphone? NOTHING.
But i can do these on my NOTE 9:
1) Take notes easily, draw for fun without any lag and sharing is smooth. No crushes..
2) Access every every details of settings. I can easily disable GPS with one tap.
3) Google services are naturally more integrigated.
4) I can see all the details of my photos. I can shoot raw, i can shoot manually.
5) Thanks to edge screen, my favourite apps are one tap away.
6) Charging is way faster, charging cable and adapter is included.
7) AKG and ICONX earbuds came for free with Note 9 pre-sale.
8) VPN connection is faster. Doesnt drop. I can see diagnosis of inbound speed.
9) 128 gb + Samsung cloud (15gb) + Dropbox + Google Drive. Cloud services are all integrated.
10) 960 fps mode, ultra ultra slow.
11) Take selfies with the cool s-pen.
12) Translate words with the cool s-pen.
13) I know that SAMSUNG will not slow my phone without warning.
etc etc...
Believe me or not, i used both iphone and note 9, i feel EXACTLY NO DIFFERENT in terms of speed. They are both fast. Benchmarks are no important for me. I chose the free life with no worries. I am in love with Note 9.
Another reason is because Geekbench algorithm for iPhone uses Vulcan whereas it hasn't been updated for Android phones that use the Vulcan graphic processing.

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