Is there a problem with P10 and standard type-c charger? If not, do anybody know which rate P10 is charging with standard type-c charger? 3A? I believe Huawei SuperCharge uses 5A.
I am buying a charger and wondering if I can buy standard type-c charger so i can use fast charging with other devices too.
The voltage is the thing. There're some chargers with more than 5V. Don't buy one of these. The current is only important for fast charging. The phone only uses max. 5A at 5V, if the charger has more than 5A the phone won't use more current.
So you can buy every charger with 5V.
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TurboPower charger that comes with it is the only thing that will give it a fast charge.
I have no idea how or why Quick Charge tech was left out.
Mine does indeed say "TurboPower Connected" and charges super-fast when I use the USB C Quick Charge 3.0 AUKEY Amp Type-C Dual-Port Wall Charger and the USB C Quick Charge 3.0 AUKEY Car Charger with Dual AiPower Ports. I can't seem to find it now, but I remember reading somewhere that the Moto Z does use QC 3.0, otherwise I wouldn't have bought the above products. NOTE: I am going USB-C to USB-C.
Does not use 3.0.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/z-force/help/moto-z-forces-turbopower-quickcharge-t3429607
In short QC 2.0 and 3.0 don't follow usb c spec according to a top Google engineer. According to Usb c spec the vbus voltage should not exceed 5v. QC tech exceeds this by using 9v and 12v to achieve more power. Motorola built the Moto Z according to spec which allows you to ramp up the current (amps) to achieve more power which is why our stock charger outputs at 5.7amps. You don't need QC to charge fast with Usb c. Usb c with power delivery is actually better . Either way the QC chargers put out 15 watts total. Our turbo charger does 28.5 watts using 5v at 5.7 amps and is actually faster than what's out now. QC chargers use higher voltage to achieve this at 9v 1.7 amps 15 watts, a charger doing 5v 3a does the same 15 watts. So to turbo charge your phone don't use QC chargers unless it also outputs at least 5v at 3a that's the key. Anything less than 3a won't turbo charge. It needs to be a usb C to usb C cable so the charger should have a usb C port not a usb a port like most of you are trying to use. No other charger out now does more than 3amps besides the turbo charger until then use chargers that do 5v 3a. Verizon has a fast charger that supports this and all other fast charging tech.
Here is some info I have been updating on another thread. Here are some 5V/3A Type-C options:
Wall chargers:
http://www.choetech.com/CHOE-3A-USB-C-Charger/
http://www.tronsmart.com/tronsmart-w2pte-type-c-quick-charger-3.0-dual-ports-rapid-wall-charger
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01DVH7Q8M
Batteries:
http://www.tronsmart.com/products/tronsmart-presto
http://www.ravpower.com/20100mah-external-battery-charger-QC3.0-type-c.html
https://www.anker.com/products/A1371012
Car chargers:
http://www.tronsmart.com/product-ccta-quick-charge-3.0-car-charger
http://www.tronsmart.com/product-c2pe-car-charger
http://www.blitzwolf.com/BlitzWolf-Qualcomm-Certified-Quick-Charger-QC-3.0-33W-USB-Type-C-BW-C8-Car-Charger-with-Micro-Cable-p-85.html
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01E764DXM/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B018TGGH4E
I know these are not as nice as having some other 5V/5.7A charging options but at least they should charge better than QC 3.0 chargers.
fliptwister said:
Here is some info I have been updating on another thread. Here are some 5V/3A Type-C options:
Wall chargers:
http://www.choetech.com/CHOE-3A-USB-C-Charger/
http://www.tronsmart.com/tronsmart-w2pte-type-c-quick-charger-3.0-dual-ports-rapid-wall-charger
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01DVH7Q8M
Batteries:
http://www.tronsmart.com/products/tronsmart-presto
http://www.ravpower.com/20100mah-external-battery-charger-QC3.0-type-c.html
https://www.anker.com/products/A1371012
Car chargers:
http://www.tronsmart.com/product-ccta-quick-charge-3.0-car-charger
http://www.tronsmart.com/product-c2pe-car-charger
http://www.blitzwolf.com/BlitzWolf-...-BW-C8-Car-Charger-with-Micro-Cable-p-85.html
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01E764DXM/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B018TGGH4E
I know these are not as nice as having some other 5V/5.7A charging options but at least they should charge better than QC 3.0 chargers.
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Will these charge as fast as the stock charger out of the box? And with a USB C cable does it need to support quick charge, or do all USB C cables support quick charge as long as you have it plugged into a USB C quick charge adapter like you linked to?
Nothing charges as fast as the stock charger as far as I know.
I looked around on Amazon to try to find a spare charger with the same speed as the OEM, but there are none as far as I know. QC actually goes against usb-c standard, so whoever has a phone that supports both is technically being shorted on charge speed. I will be waiting for the verified brands (ex. Anker/Aukey) to release a legitimate charger because there have been instances where wall chargers have completely destroyed devices. For the fastest charge, you'll want usb-c cables end to end, but since usb-c is not the standard yet, I would be very careful when buying lesser-known usb-c accessories. Z owners will have to wait for the market to catch up at this point.
Total side note but I wonder if the problems Samsung is having is because of their bastardized quick charge/type setup.
I'm happy we don't have QC.
fliptwister said:
Here is some info I have been updating on another thread. Here are some 5V/3A Type-C options:
Wall chargers:
http://www.choetech.com/CHOE-3A-USB-C-Charger/
http://www.tronsmart.com/tronsmart-w2pte-type-c-quick-charger-3.0-dual-ports-rapid-wall-charger
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01DVH7Q8M
Batteries:
http://www.tronsmart.com/products/tronsmart-presto
http://www.ravpower.com/20100mah-external-battery-charger-QC3.0-type-c.html
https://www.anker.com/products/A1371012
Car chargers:
http://www.tronsmart.com/product-ccta-quick-charge-3.0-car-charger
http://www.tronsmart.com/product-c2pe-car-charger
http://www.blitzwolf.com/BlitzWolf-Qualcomm-Certified-Quick-Charger-QC-3.0-33W-USB-Type-C-BW-C8-Car-Charger-with-Micro-Cable-p-85.html
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01E764DXM/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B018TGGH4E
I know these are not as nice as having some other 5V/5.7A charging options but at least they should charge better than QC 3.0 chargers.
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I bought the Choetech charger from amazon and it works great on my Z Force. no where near the OEM charger but still charges the phone dead to full in a little over an hour and a half. from my limited testing.
fr4nk1yn said:
Total side note but I wonder if the problems Samsung is having is because of their bastardized quick charge/type setup.
I'm happy we don't have QC.
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Ha! I was thinking the same when I heard about battery fire from the Note 7.
I just bought another oem charger from amazon and called it a day.
squidder said:
I just bought another oem charger from amazon and called it a day.
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But car charger?
sniperess said:
But car charger?
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The car charger that Verizon sells turbo charges the phone, but not as quickly as the stock home charger. I don't think any charger will charge as fast as the stock home charger, since it's optimized for the phone. But the Verizon USB-C charger charges the phone plenty fast.
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The car charger that Verizon sells turbo charges the phone, but not as quickly as the stock home charger. I don't think any charger will charge as fast as the stock home charger, since it's optimized for the phone. But the Verizon USB-C charger charges the phone plenty fast.
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I can confirm this. I just got this phone on an upgrade after insisting to the Verizon sales representative that I did NOT want a Galaxy S8, that I was absolutely sure I didn't want the S8, and that I think the Z Force is a much better device than the S8. After seeing the genuine shock on his face that I slighted his phone, I bought the OtterBox case and the Verizon branded USB-C car charger with it.
The car charger definitely charges faster than my non quick charge USB-C cable, but not as fast as the stock charger. The stock charger will take me from ~5% to full in an hour. The Verizon car charger takes about an hour and twenty minutes to go from ~5% to full.
All in all, it was worth the money spent on the charger. It is definitely better than the 8 hour charge my standard USB-C usually takes.
And 6ft usb c that supports supercharge?
I've Ankey 1 USB Quick Charge 3.0 and working fine on my MAte 10 Pro with Waze started. Mobile charging (but slower than original charger it's logical regarding Quick charge 3.0).
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B075CGTRR7/ref=ya_aw_od_pi?ie=UTF8&psc=1
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B06ZZBVSYK/ref=ya_aw_od_pi?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Is what I found on Amazon for the best price at the time. Yes the car charger does Super Charge.
You need 5A Charger and cable for the supercharge (or at least something near)
Does 2.4A work, too.? Of course with slower charging rates but using the whole 2.4A? Want to use it with a supercharge cable.
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Does 2.4A work, too.? Of course with slower charging rates but using the whole 2.4A? Want to use it with a supercharge cable.
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Yes. It will work, I currently use an Anker charger. It's just a bit slower than Supercharge.
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Has anyone found an adaptor that allows 3.5mm jack for audio and USB C for charging that supports fast charging at all? Even 2.4a would be ok. I have found one online from flosmall that claims 2a, but I don't know if that's really enough. I regularly run Waze and listen to podcasts (downloaded) or Spotify (streaming) and the adaptor I got off eBay charges really, really slow. I also need a new car charger, so the responses in this thread have already been helpful on that front.
You can buy an original Huwaei Car Charger with SuperCharge support at http://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/qjQJqba
I am asking about a 6ft usb cable that support supercharge, I have no idea why everyone talking about Qualcomm charger, this is not a Samsung thread smh
https://www.amazon.es/Acocobuy-Carg...8&qid=1521544897&sr=8-11&keywords=cargador+5a
This one has 2.4a and Supercharge 3.0
I got myself original Huawei AP38 car charger and it came with cable in package. Works absolutely like a charm and it is well worth the money. No difference from wall charger in terms of charging speed
There are plenty usb cables that work with supercharge just look for one that supports 5A current. I have a very long one close to 2m/6ft, works very well with huawei car charger and normal charger
The thing with supercharge and the cables is that most chargin technologies require a maximum of 2 or 3A. Up to 3A is a usb standard so all usb cables support that. A higher current is usually never needed because standard usb protocols dont support it. 5A current requires a different structure of the cable. And since supercharge uses up to 5A current we need to get special cables.
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I am asking about a 6ft usb cable that support supercharge, I have no idea why everyone talking about Qualcomm charger, this is not a Samsung thread smh
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This one works with Supercharge and is 2M long this one
Car charger supercharge original with 1M cable here
$7.50 USD and it works fine as a Super Charger - just need to make sure the cable is rated to 5A - https://www.tomtop.com/p-k6492.html...878GgH-bDYvgzzFhq5JIYDMB9v0dEw8YaAucfEALw_wcB
I want to buy a 6 feet USB-C charger cable for my phone.
Do I have to buy a 5A USB-C (which is harder to find with a USB-A connection).
Reason I ask is because the charger is a 67W charger and on the mi Store, the 67W charger is shipping with a 6A USB-A to USB-C wire.
Kindly advise.
keneth_c said:
I want to buy a 6 feet USB-C charger cable for my phone.
Do I have to buy a 5A USB-C (which is harder to find with a USB-A connection).
Reason I ask is because the charger is a 67W charger and on the mi Store, the 67W charger is shipping with a 6A USB-A to USB-C wire.
Kindly advise.
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As far as I know, the type of cable only effects the throughput that the cable is capable of. So if you use a cable other than the one they are specifying, you would still be able to use it, but it probably won't push 67 watts.
So you're implying a 3A cable should still charge the phone well but might not quick charge?
I bought some 3m corded cables usb a-c and c-c. They were only about £3.69 each with third one free. Dam good cables and run quick and super quick from my Huawei super charge and my Xiaomi 120w charger from 10 ultra. Extreme charging from cheap cables. I was shocked as I didn't think they would work as well as the supplied 10 ultra charging cable
where did you buy it you got a link from the seller
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Heavydut...2349624.m46890.l49286&mkrid=710-127635-2958-0
Works with mi Turbo charge 120w charger 10 ultra and Huawei super charger at full speed.
So I was trying to charge as fast as possible and multiple qc2 and 3 chargers were only slow charging. I assume this is due to the unisoc vs Qualcomm chipset. I was able to determine that pd chargers will quick charge at nearly 15 W. But only Samsung chargers with afc and one anker, with iq2 I think, will charge at non pd high speed charging
Use a known good Samsung 25w brick/cable to simplify troubleshooting... it's hard enough to begin with.
If battery start charge temp is <65F or >100F or has greater than a 75% charge on it, fast charging may be disabled. Display must be off.
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I have an Rd tc-66 so I can see exactly what volt/amp/watt is being supplied. I used an anker, aukey, and several other chargers. Only the Samsung fast charger, the anker and any pd charger I tried were able to fast charge. I used 1 USB a to c cable for all chargers, so it worked on 2 qc chargers and not on 4 qc2 and qc3 chargers. For pd chargers, it was the same c to c cable, and all pd chargers provided 8-9v and 1.4-1.7a.
My quess, again, is that the unisoc chipset doesn't favor Qualcomm quick charge, so it's limited to Samsung afc and pd for high speed charging.
Hello, I bought a Oneplus 8t+5G (tmobile) used off of Ebay, so I'll need to buy the 65W fast charger myself, what I was unclear on was the cable itself. I currently use this cable, (https://a.co/fCB5o9D) the only power rating it lists is 3.1A. If I bought a 65W charging block, would this cable be sufficient to get the most out of the fast charging?
Also feel free to discuss recommendations for 65W charging cables/blocks. Thanks
If you're using an original OnePlus charger with a USB-C to USB-C cable, it doesn't really matter which one you use, it's best if it meets PD 3.0 60-100W requirements and is reasonably solid. I tested 3 different cables of this type: the original one, some unspecified BlitzWolf and BaseUs PD 60W and the WarpCharge 65W charging was identical with each one. It is different if you would like to use an Oppo or Realme charger with USB-A output - in this case only the original cable will probably charge the WarpCharge 65W.
And remember that only a OnePlus charger compatible with WarpCharge 65W (Realme Superdart or Oppo SuperVooc 2.0) will charge 65W. Third party chargers, even if they are 100W, will not comply with this charging standard.