I was just wondering what the correct way to charge your phone is. I have an AT&T tilt. When the battery would get to like 3% I would just turn it off and then plug in my AC wall charger that came with it and leave it until it was fully charged. But I want to leave my phone on all the time so I dont miss calls, So when I leave it on while charging the phone gets pretty warm and the screen turns on by itself randomly. And when i plugged it in the other night before i went to bed (phone was still on whole night) in the morning I went to wake it up and it wouldnt. When i slid the keyboard out it lit up and everything so it was definitely on, but the screen wouldnt come on no matter what I did. Am i not suppose to be charging it while the phone is still on or leaving it plugged in for a long time after the battery has reached its full charge using the AC wall charger that came with it. Should I instead by one of those cradle chargers cuz dont they have a thing where once your battery is full, it will stop charging it? Any feedback would be really appreciated. Thank you.
hmm i dont really know bout u
but i've really never turned off my phone....the tytnII or any of my previous phones i would just leave it on day and nite and i go to bed i charge it or any time when i'm home if its low on battery
kinda wild how many people torture their batts on acount of that old myth
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=355318&highlight=batt+myth
How are you charging it? Supplied wall charger or USB port?
The supplied wall charger will turn it on initially and it should then turn back to standby as set by your power settings. Make sure you don't have it set to ramain on when on external power.
USB charge connection to PC or laptop will keep polling the phone if Activesync is enabled and turn it on continuosly.
Some external chargers, such as the ones for the previous TyTyn (not TyTynII) required two pins connected to enable charging and if you are using one of those the TyTynII thinks a data connection is being made and randomly powers up.
It's been my experience to keep the battery on a charger whenever possible. Those batteries "like" to be topped off. I have killed a couple of batteries by running them down all the way and trying to bring them back to life. Li Ion batteries are not like NiCads
When I'm driving, it's plugged in. At home, it's on my desk charging. While I sleep, it's charging on my night stand.
I found charging when every possible, and keeping it topped off as much as possible will enable the battery to last longer for those times you can't get to a charger. This has been the case for all the HTC phones I've used.
Within the last few days I've notice that my phone is charging at unbelievable slow rate via the wall charge that was supplied. I usually get a full charge in maybe 1-2 hr depending on what percentage the battery is at. Once it is fully charge it hold the charge, but when it drains then it would take like 6 hrs to do a full charge. I've tried to soft reset it to see if the percentage goes up, but it stay the same. I turn off the phone to let it charge, but it still charge at a slow rate. I'm wondering is it time to purchase a new battery.
What do you think? And is there any other test I can do?
The slow charge could be one of a few things... One could be the battery as you suspect (and probally most likely).. Also, are you chargign the phone in a diffrent place? If the battery gets too warm from lack of circulation, it will not charge (or just charge much mroe slowly).. It also could be that your USB port is starting to go... IF you have a stand alogn abattery charger available for it (like one on a docking station) try to charge it on there and see if it still charges as slowly.. Another though could be if you are charging it in your car while using GPS or Wifi.. IF those are left on, they suck down the battery a lot faster and thus it uses the electricity as fast as it can pull it in.. I woudl suggest powering the phone down while charging.. that could also help...
i always charge it in the same spot since i got the phone. i dont have a dock charger. its weird last night i was at 49 and i turn off the phone completely and plug it in. woke up today the orange light indicating that it was charging still was on. turn on the phone and it was at 55 percent. WTF!!!!!!!!!!
I guess that touch pro 2 better come out soon.
itzstevo said:
i always charge it in the same spot since i got the phone. i dont have a dock charger. its weird last night i was at 49 and i turn off the phone completely and plug it in. woke up today the orange light indicating that it was charging still was on. turn on the phone and it was at 55 percent. WTF!!!!!!!!!!
I guess that touch pro 2 better come out soon.
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i have the same problem. Its either your USB port or the charger, so simply go buy a new charger and if it still does it the port is bad....if not, problem solved
or put it in your computer to charge, that avoids buying a new charger.
usb charging is always slower then wallplug charging as usb can only provide
5v * 0.5Amps == 2.5Watt
where
wall charger can provide as much watt
as the charger is made to
but of cause the pda will only draw as much
amps as it was made to support
The other day I was in a hospital and my phone was next to the bed but the charger wire was tangled in the bed. So a nurse came up and rolled out the bed and the phone fell from quite high on the (hard) floor.
It still worked, screen wasn't cracked so I didn't think much of it.
But now, the phone can be charged with the charger. As soon as I unplug the charger there are 2 things that can happen:
1. The phone keeps saying it's charging. Other than that the phone is fully functional. Battery drain is much higher though, in 10 minutes I lose 7% battery.
2. The charging icon in the battery will flash on and off. When I switch off the screen, the lock-screen immediatly turns on and the text charging blinks, it's like someone is plugging in the charger and takes it out immediatly, battery drain is even higher when this occurs, I lose 50% within the hour, depending of what I'm doing.
Sometimes the problem is not there, the phone will function normally, but the problem will come back within 1 or 2 hours and usually when I plug in a charger and take it out later. Also, sometimes it seems the phone is not charging and the charge indicator will stay at a certain percentage but when I reboot the phone it it fully charged (according to the indicator).
First I thought it was an android problem. But when I switch off the phone the charging image appears as well and starts blinking, also the menu and back button flash on and off. It's also quite difficult to switch on the phone at this point and the battery image shows only the outline of the battery, not how much charge is in it.
So far I tried 2 other chargers, 2 other batteries (1 original Samsung and 1 after market). Rebooted the phone many times and left the battery out for an hour.
Anyone knows of what causes such a problem? Of course, the fall was the start of the problem. Could there be some pins bent in the usb socket of the phone?
vinz3nt said:
The other day I was in a hospital and my phone was next to the bed but the charger wire was tangled in the bed. So a nurse came up and rolled out the bed and the phone fell from quite high on the (hard) floor.
It still worked, screen wasn't cracked so I didn't think much of it.
But now, the phone can be charged with the charger. As soon as I unplug the charger there are 2 things that can happen:
1. The phone keeps saying it's charging. Other than that the phone is fully functional. Battery drain is much higher though, in 10 minutes I lose 7% battery.
2. The charging icon in the battery will flash on and off. When I switch off the screen, the lock-screen immediatly turns on and the text charging blinks, it's like someone is plugging in the charger and takes it out immediatly, battery drain is even higher when this occurs, I lose 50% within the hour, depending of what I'm doing.
Sometimes the problem is not there, the phone will function normally, but the problem will come back within 1 or 2 hours and usually when I plug in a charger and take it out later. Also, sometimes it seems the phone is not charging and the charge indicator will stay at a certain percentage but when I reboot the phone it it fully charged (according to the indicator).
First I thought it was an android problem. But when I switch off the phone the charging image appears as well and starts blinking, also the menu and back button flash on and off. It's also quite difficult to switch on the phone at this point and the battery image shows only the outline of the battery, not how much charge is in it.
So far I tried 2 other chargers, 2 other batteries (1 original Samsung and 1 after market). Rebooted the phone many times and left the battery out for an hour.
Anyone knows of what causes such a problem? Of course, the fall was the start of the problem. Could there be some pins bent in the usb socket of the phone?
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I had a problem recently in which even though I kept my phone on charging (and it showed that it is charging), the battery percentage either remained same or it went down even though it was plugged in.. went to samsung and they said the usb port is damaged and they replaced it.. I think the same resolution will be for your problem
Mmm....makes sense. What does Samsung charge for that?
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I have noticed that when the N6 is on charge, once it reaches 100% and left on charger, the battery starts discharging approx 1% every hour.
I only noticed this when my alarm was going off and when looked at battery usage it was saying 94% but nothing using it - installed GSAM and noticed that once fully charged it starts discharging even while on charge. If I remove charger and re-insert it starts charging again as normal.
Has anyone else noticed this issue. I have contacted Motorola to see what they say, but they are none the wiser and just think it may be a feature of the device/charger but not sure and said to test with another charger.
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I have noticed that when the N6 is on charge, once it reaches 100% and left on charger, the battery starts discharging approx 1% every hour.
I only noticed this when my alarm was going off and when looked at battery usage it was saying 94% but nothing using it - installed GSAM and noticed that once fully charged it starts discharging even while on charge. If I remove charger and re-insert it starts charging again as normal.
Has anyone else noticed this issue. I have contacted Motorola to see what they say, but they are none the wiser and just think it may be a feature of the device/charger but not sure and said to test with another charger.
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Not sure, I don't use stock or the stock charger. I would have thought the stock charger trickle charged. I remember my HTC desire used to charge to 100%, discharge to 90 and then charge to 100% in a loop as it didn't trickle charge.
Make sure your using a cable that supports data as well. My stock 5.01 and stock charger/cable does trickle charge.
It's perfectly normal to see this in such devices, though if it were going any lower I'd investigate further.
Maintaining a constant flow to the battery would burn it out so the charge gets it to full and then cuts out, allowing a little discharging and cooling of the battery. Once it gets to certain point, it'll start to juice the battery again.
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thanks for the replies - I've not seen it drop below 90%, but I know if remove the charger and plug back in, it will start charging as normal - another thing I have recently noticed is that when you do plug charger in, initially it switches between battery/charger a few times and then starts properly charging - I wonder if this is feature of the phone or lollipop causing this. - other than this phone seems to work fine and have had over 2 days on a full charge
Well got it to drop to 80% while plugged in and it didn't start charging again until pulled cable and put back in
what charger are you using? i leave my n6 on a charger for hours after it hits 100%, and it never ever drops. id even say that when it hits 100% it doesnt stop charging. it keeps charging, with a much less inflow of charge than normal, but its still charging. for about 30min before it stops charging. then it just stays at 100%. sometimes i have it plugged in for 8-10 hours after, never once did it go to 99%. this is while using stock, and custom roms.
walkerx said:
I have noticed that when the N6 is on charge, once it reaches 100% and left on charger, the battery starts discharging approx 1% every hour.
I only noticed this when my alarm was going off and when looked at battery usage it was saying 94% but nothing using it - installed GSAM and noticed that once fully charged it starts discharging even while on charge. If I remove charger and re-insert it starts charging again as normal.
Has anyone else noticed this issue. I have contacted Motorola to see what they say, but they are none the wiser and just think it may be a feature of the device/charger but not sure and said to test with another charger.
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The new gen chargers actually cut the power when the battery Actually hits 99% and show it as 100% and stop it charging. But when the 100% drop to 99% (which is not actually visible), it automatically starts charging. But discharging the battery more than 1% is not actually a Normal thing, I should say. I also do charge over-night, never evidenced such thing. I'll suggest you to try with different turbo charger if you have one.
I'm using the stock charger got with the phone. I did contact Motorola over this and they were useless. I know charger works as charges to 100%. But it then just stops.
I have performed a factory reset to see how it goes tonight.
If still no good will speak with CPW and see what they say as don't fancy having to send off based on some of the forum posts
I have no issues with my N4 which has been connected to a power source for days and still shows 100%
I have also noticed that on the N6 when powered off and charge it doesn't show that it is charging
taken it into CPW and they have sent it off for repair - been told 16 days - at least with apple it's near enough same day, shame can't do same with android phones
I had called Motorola uk support and was promised email confirmation of call and also call back this morning regarding the phone and have had neither
back to my Nexus 4 for time being, just hope my Nexus 6 don't come back with any scratches, etc
I use a Qi charger, and notice this exact thing. Charge until it claims to be full, then stop altogether. So I set it on the pad when I go to bed, and wake up to it not charging and being down to around 95%. I was thinking that it was a characteristic of Qi, but when we got another (identical) Qi pad for the wife's Hammerhead, it "appears" to remain in charging mode indefinitely. Our Qi pads have a blinking white light when they are "charging".
what happens if you just plug the charger directly to the phone so not using the wireless Qi charger, do you get the same fault
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I use a Qi charger, and notice this exact thing. Charge until it claims to be full, then stop altogether. So I set it on the pad when I go to bed, and wake up to it not charging and being down to around 95%. I was thinking that it was a characteristic of Qi, but when we got another (identical) Qi pad for the wife's Hammerhead, it "appears" to remain in charging mode indefinitely. Our Qi pads have a blinking white light when they are "charging".
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Hammerhead does act differently to the shamu. I have both and used them both on the same qi.
Hammerhead trickle charges. Charging icon remains until picked up off charger.
Shamu stops at 100%, charging icon disappears. However, when I remove my Shamu, its always 100% or 99%.. Its never lower.
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what happens if you just plug the charger directly to the phone so not using the wireless Qi charger, do you get the same fault
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Good question. But judging by the rest of this thread, I suspect that it will behave the same with a wire as with the Qi. I don't ever actually use the wire to charge, since the ballistic maxx case makes access to the USB plug inconvenient.
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Hammerhead does act differently to the shamu. I have both and used them both on the same qi.
Hammerhead trickle charges. Charging icon remains until picked up off charger.
Shamu stops at 100%, charging icon disappears. However, when I remove my Shamu, its always 100% or 99%.. Its never lower.
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I wonder if that could be a coincidence....? I.e., either you aren't leaving it on long enough for the percent to drop lower than that, or leaving it on long enough that it initiates a top-up just before you disconnect it.
Ok, so looking at the DT for the device....
https://android.googlesource.com/ke...ot/dts/apq8084-shamu/apq8084-moto-common.dtsi
Look at lines ranging from 823 to 854 for the smb1357 block.
Note low-voltage-uv = 2750000, max-voltage-uv = 4350000
In mv, that would be 2750 and 4350 respectively. That makes for a range of 1600 mV.
The recharge-thresh-mv = 200
Assuming a *relatively* linear voltage/percentage curve, 200/1600 * 100 = 12.5%. It won't be quite that linear, but this is adequate to give a rough idea of the charge cycle breadth in percentage points.
recharge-thresh-mv accepts values of 50, 100, 200, or 300. The smaller the value is, the tighter the recharge threshold becomes. At 50, we would be looking at roughly 3%.
So my conclusion: working as intended.
There is another aspect that becomes involved when using Qi, which is the bq51021. This one has a parameter "resume-vbatt-mv" set to a value of 4270 mV. That is 80 mV below full, or roughly 5%. Judging by only the name of the parameter, it sounds like it sets a Qi charge cycle breadth of 5%, but I don't understand the relationship between the bq51021 and the smb1357. I suspect that the two have to agree for Qi charging to work.
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I wonder if that could be a coincidence....? I.e., either you aren't leaving it on long enough for the percent to drop lower than that, or leaving it on long enough that it initiates a top-up just before you disconnect it.
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I don't think so. I put it on the charger at pretty much the same time and take it off at pretty much the same time but starting from different % remaining every day... If it did drop to 90%, i would have caught it at least once by now.
update: whatever you do if you are uk customer and purchased via CPW do not take it back to them - i found out today that they are not accredited repairers and they should have advised me it needed to go to Motorola - now trying to find out what is happening with my phone and when to get it back
I'm still trying to understand how my Nexus 6 works with Qi charging, and the results are a bit inconsistent.
I'm using an LG WCD-100 stand and a BlackBerry Blade charger, both of which are reported to work well with the Nexus 6 (in portrait).
I've had my Nexus 6 on the dock on my desk in work this week, and have been keeping an eye on it. I have the screen on all the time (so I can keep an eye on incoming personal emails). Most of the time the N6 charges to 100%. It then stops charging until it get to about 98%, at which time it starts charging again. So far so good. HOWEVER, on a few occasions it did not start to recharge (even with the battery down to the 70's), and I had to remove it from the charger for a few moments and then put it back before it would start charging again.
I'll try again next week (I'm only desk-bound Tue/Wed/Thu) with a different Qi charger, just in case there's a problem with the one I'm using (though I doubt it).
In the meantime, has anybody seen similar behaviour - or is it time to talk to Motorola UK Support?
the charging issue with it not starting again is the same as what i'm having on wired connection - if you install something like gsam battery monitor you can see that it is discharging while actually charging
I also have the LG WCD-100 (from when I had the LG G3) but not actually using it as I think first time tried you have to get it in the correct area for it to charge
I had problems with my Nokia charger. Because this phone is big and the back of the Nokia was less than half way up the back of the phone, the weight of the too of the phone pushed the bottom of the phone away from the charger.. Imagine the phone as a see saw and the top of the back of the charger as the pivot point. Also the unflat back didn't help
I just noticed that I only get the batterycare message when I charge the phone before bed via a cable. When I charge it overnight wirelessly it does. It have the message (how it will charge to 90% by 9am or whatever). Does this mean batterycare isn't working when we charge wirelessly?
hey... do you know how you got Battery Care to show up? I have my phone for just almost a week now... I charge long overnight before sleep and wake-up around same timing, but still don't have the Battery Care showing up.... I tried toggling off then ON again before sleeping but still doesn't show up... do you know how I should fix this?
I hope it has nothing to do that it's a fast charger right? the standard fast charger that comes with it.....the QC3.0 one..
Thanks
Cheng
I used an XZ and now use an XZ Premium and have found the Battery Care feature frustrating for the reasons you cite. It only works under fairly narrow conditions. And then it has to "relearn" after a factory reset or firmware flash.
My workaround is plug my phone into a fish aquarium light timer overnight and program it to turn on (begin charging) at a time that results in the phone being at 100% when I wake up. That way the phone doesn't sit on the charger at 100% for hours on end...which is what Battery Care aims to do.
And it works for any phone.
I also use an old Sony Charger from my 2012 Xperia T. It charges really slowly...which results in a lower amount of heat in the battery and hopefully prolongs its lifespan. I don't need fast charging overnight!
I've only been using a wireless charger, "have them all over", since I received the phone and I get the battery care notification when the battery is below 70% otherwise the message doesn't show up.
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I've only been using a wireless charger, "have them all over", since I received the phone and I get the battery care notification when the battery is below 70% otherwise the message doesn't show up.
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I don't use Battery Care,just wireless charging, primarily at night, with a table top fan going all night as well.
During workweek usage, I don't even bother topping off nightly, this phone does well between charges to skip a day &/or, just throw it on the charger when I wake up & take it off on my way out the door for the day. I don't worry about having it @ 100%...,50-60% will get me through a 12hr shift w/room to spare.
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