How to keep screen on indefinitely, natively, without using an app? - Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers

Any thoughts on how to keep the screen on forever like the LG V20 allowed me to? I realized that I never put my phone down, in my pocket, connected to a cradle, without turning the screen off first, so why should I use some low screen timeout number when I hate having it turn off on me when I don't need it to? Furthermore, I couldn't find a way to have my car dock setup keep the screen on without the use of an app on the LG, and I hate having a stupid notification on the bar to tell me "hey, we're doing something for you all the time, thanks for using this app!" if I don't have to. I'm trying to sell you on the idea, not sure why, but those are my reasons in case someone asks why I prefer it this way....
ANYWAYS, the maximum timeout is 10 mins on the Note8, and I couldn't find anything other than the setting in developer's options to keep screen on while charging (which, I'll have you know for those trying to suggest that one, dims the screen after a period of time - I don't know what that is, I just know I saw it do it once and turned that setting off because that's not what I need while using Google Maps and driving). Any thoughts on this, natively, within the phone's own settings somehow???

KryptosXLayer2 said:
Any thoughts on how to keep the screen on forever like the LG V20 allowed me to? I realized that I never put my phone down, in my pocket, connected to a cradle, without turning the screen off first, so why should I use some low screen timeout number when I hate having it turn off on me when I don't need it to? Furthermore, I couldn't find a way to have my car dock setup keep the screen on without the use of an app on the LG, and I hate having a stupid notification on the bar to tell me "hey, we're doing something for you all the time, thanks for using this app!" if I don't have to. I'm trying to sell you on the idea, not sure why, but those are my reasons in case someone asks why I prefer it this way....
ANYWAYS, the maximum timeout is 10 mins on the Note8, and I couldn't find anything other than the setting in developer's options to keep screen on while charging (which, I'll have you know for those trying to suggest that one, dims the screen after a period of time - I don't know what that is, I just know I saw it do it once and turned that setting off because that's not what I need while using Google Maps and driving). Any thoughts on this, natively, within the phone's own settings somehow???
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Just FYI, you can get rid of those "always running" notifications indefinitely by swiping the notification to the right and tapping "block notifications". It simply removes the card, and has no affect on the apps functionality.
Use Caffeine.
- Open it, give it the proper permissions (it will ask)
- Enable it
- Enable " Start at boot" and "Auto enable at boot"
- Close the app, open the notification panel, swipe right on the caffeine card and tap "block all notifications".
- As long as you don't go and change the display timeout settings in the actual settings app, your phone will never auto turn off, and can only be turned on/off manually just like normal.
And if app drawer clutter is something you want to get rid of, just hide the app icon.

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And if app drawer clutter is something you want to get rid of, just hide the app icon.
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I'm familiar with this method, even familiar with Caffeine, which I like more than any of the other junk ones in the Play Store, but I was hoping for something built-in that wouldn't require another running app to do something simple - Samsung / Android should have all the simple stuff figured out by now.... this was DEFINITIVELY the only thing the V20 had over the Note7 and now the Note8, I hated almost everything else about the phone but wasn't going backwards to the S7 when I had to turn the the Note7.
Thanks for your help, will use this solution until / unless someone has another (native, preferable) solution

Found the issue with using Caffeine as opposed to something native. Caffeine does a great job of keeping the screen in no matter what, any time it comes on. This also includes if the power state is changed, a missed call comes through, etc. It will turn on the screen, show you the lock screen, and just sit there.
The LG was capable of shutting the screen off after a short timeout when only on the lock screen, which would allow a notification or change in power from keeping the screen on indefinitely because it wasn't forcing ANY screen on input from doing it, only when unlocked, when it was appropriate to do so.
Any thoughts on how to fix this?

Be very careful. Unlike your LG v20 this phone has a AMOLED display. If you leave it on the same screen for a long time it will cause burn in on the display.

What ever happened to Screebl? I was going to recommend it to a friend, and couldn't find it any more... I guess it has just survived the port from phone to phone.
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Xshooter726 said:
Be very careful. Unlike your LG v20 this phone has a AMOLED display. If you leave it on the same screen for a long time it will cause burn in on the display.
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See signature - not my first AMOLED display phone.... When the screen is on for a long time, it's because I'm driving and using Maps and switching to Play Music, etc. I'm trying to avoid having the screen on all night long with it coming on when A) the phone gets fully charged, and B) when a notification or something wakes it because Caffeine is almost "too good" at what it does!

Hate that I had to use an app to do this, but I am really liking Screen Timeout that disables the timeout options Samsung gave us all together. Would love to know how to get this done, without the need for root, where I don't have to disable notifications for an app that constantly runs, though....
What it does, if anyone cares, is make none of the selections selected so the screen stays on ONLY when unlocked, exactly what I figured out I was looking for. I hope this helps someone else looking for a solution like this!
Here's the link to the app I'm using:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.lhoer0.screentimeout

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(REQUEST) Disabling Auto-lock

This one aspect of my phone has been really bugging me. We don't have the option to disable the automatic locking of our phones. You could enable an infinite screen timeout, but that doesn't really solve the problem as it introduces a new problem (increased drain on the battery due to the display being on the whole time).
It'd be nice if we could control those two settings independently. One is to be able to control screen timeout, the other would be to enable/disable autolocking our phones.
The reason this is useful for someone like me is that I usually leave my phone on the desk when I'm not using it. In my situation the auto-locking is just a huge pain because I'm not worried about accidentally hitting any buttons while the phone is on the desk nor am I worried about security/privacy issues.
Anyone see a need?
I think lockbot gives you an option of how long before the lock screen goes into affect if you'd be willing to use an app for a lock screen...
erikikaz said:
This one aspect of my phone has been really bugging me. We don't have the option to disable the automatic locking of our phones. You could enable an infinite screen timeout, but that doesn't really solve the problem as it introduces a new problem (increased drain on the battery due to the display being on the whole time).
It'd be nice if we could control those two settings independently. One is to be able to control screen timeout, the other would be to enable/disable autolocking our phones.
The reason this is useful for someone like me is that I usually leave my phone on the desk when I'm not using it. In my situation the auto-locking is just a huge pain because I'm not worried about accidentally hitting any buttons while the phone is on the desk nor am I worried about security/privacy issues.
Anyone see a need?
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Well... I'll answer your question... But this won't be helpful (Just a warning )
A need? No.. I honestly don't find it troublesome to swipe my finger across the screen after pressing the trackball (or Power button if you're not rooted/haven't setup Trackball Wake)
So, I don't really see a need. But good luck finding someone to accomplish your request. Just seems like it'd be a fair amount of work, to remedy 1 seconds time... Just my $.02
Try ScreenModeWidget at market, free.
choose awake stay.
Try ScreenModeWidget at market, free.
choose awake stay.
Look in the market for "curvefish" he's a developer of widgets and has a lock screen on off widget that will let you turn it off then back on without having to reset the pattern. Hope that helps!
Keyguard disabler on the market. It works for me. I set it after a reboot and it works. It has a option to start on start but I just do it manually with the shortcut.
actually, i've been looking for the same solution as you are looking for! even i find it highly anoying when i keep the fone on my desk and have to sweep the screen each time i want to check it.
ideally, i'm looking for something likr what u get in the 5800.... the screen comes back on (after timning out) when you tap on the screen, unless u lock it explicitly via the hardware button...
neways, u kud try "no luck" which simply disables the lock screen. when the screen times out, pressing the hardware "home' or "lock/unlock" buttons brings the screen back on without having to go thru the unlock procedure...
Cheers,
I've been using touchscreen smartphones since the Omnia came out and never once have i needed a lock screen. I can't for the life of me work out why anyone would need anything more than a screen off/screen on button.
I'm using No Lock from the market now. It has a handy toggle widget/icon for enabling or disabling the lock function. As a bonus it allows screen wake on Trackball and volume buttons.
+1 for No Lock! It's the best way to get around that swipe pain.

[Q] Wake up when picked up?

Is there an app or a way to have the tab wake up (to the lock screen) when it detects motion? ie Wake up automatically when it's picked up? allowing you to then either use the device or set it down so the screen can timeout again?
It seems like a more natural way to use the device as opposed to fiddling with a button. If like me you use the device only around the house then it's stationary 90% of the time and not being jostled about in a pocket. So if I pick it up at all then it's because I'm about to do something with it. It'd be great to have the screen flick on automatically.
It's not something I've seen much of. I'm not even sure if that sensor can trigger that action. Any thoughts or ideas?
If you are on a firmware that lets you access test mode (*#*#0*#*#) you can find that P1000 actually have a "grab sensor" that works well, but I never knew the use of it...
Let's hope the experts have an answer! ^^
I have to admit, that would be a cool feature... not for everyone or every lifestyle, but I can already imagine frequent uses where that would be good to select as an option.
I'm runnning overcome 4.1.0 - doesnt seem to let me access the test settings for the "grab sensor". Fingers crossed there is another way to utilize this feature.

Active Dislplay Always on

Is there anyway to have active display always show up as my main lockscreen every time i click the power button?
wsbuck said:
Is there anyway to have active display always show up as my main lockscreen every time i click the power button?
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Nah, just get used to triggering it if you need it. I hardly ever find myself needing to use the normal lockscreen, personally, I just sort of adapted. If I want the screen to turn on without picking up the phone, I move it a half-inch to the left, and Active Display pops on. Of course it's already on when I take it out of my pocket, or pick it up. Never had a need to activate it any other way.
modulusshift said:
Nah, just get used to triggering it if you need it. I hardly ever find myself needing to use the normal lockscreen, personally, I just sort of adapted. If I want the screen to turn on without picking up the phone, I move it a half-inch to the left, and Active Display pops on. Of course it's already on when I take it out of my pocket, or pick it up. Never had a need to activate it any other way.
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Same here. I never use the power button to turn my phone on, the active notification screen turns on quite literally every time I go to use my phone. It's brilliant.
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Combined with a turn screen off widget/app and a mute widget/app, I never use any buttons on this phone.
You can do what I did and disable lockscreen completely. That way only active notifications will show when you pick up the phone.

[Q] Active Display turns on when phone is moved.

This might seem like a dumb question but whenever I set my phone down and it is moved even in the slightest the Active Display lockscreen turns on. Is there anyway possible to disable that?
That's the cool thing about this phone. Don't worry about it
Chronos300 said:
This might seem like a dumb question but whenever I set my phone down and it is moved even in the slightest the Active Display lockscreen turns on. Is there anyway possible to disable that?
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You will get used to it and come to love it. the great thing is that it doesn't adversely effect your battery, it uses the special built in processors. I thought it was weird at first but now I just tap my phone or bump the table to see my notifications.
I love it because I never have to push the power button to turn my device on. This is a great way to save wear and tear on your power button. A lot of devices that rely on one button all the time (power button) end up with that button not working anymore. If I didn't have this option I would be using my volume rocker to power up my phone.
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This is easily my favorite feature about the Moto X. All I gotta do is pick up my phone and it automagically shows me any notifications and is ready to be unlocked. Power button? What's that?
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I like this feature. I usually tap my finger on the screen or press off to one side so the phone rocks slightly on the curved back to get the display to come on. As someone else said, it saves a lot of wear on the power button. I can't tell you how often I clicked my Razr Maxx on just to see what time it was, and clicked it off again immediately. The button never wore out, but it's nice not having to do it at all.
I do have a question though. I got the phone on Wednesday and didn't notice this at all until this morning, and I don't know if it's normal or not. While getting ready for work this morning I noticed the Active Display fire on and off a few times in a row. I thought since it was right at 7am that I may have gotten a few emails close together or something, and didn't worry about it.
When I got to work I set my phone on my desk and was reading emails and such and I noticed the display puling on and off about every 5-6 seconds. It fades in, holds for maybe 1 second and fades out. It only had one notification, for Plume (Twitter), which only polls every 15 minutes in the background, so I knew it wasn't getting new notifications repeatedly.
I can't remember if this was happening yesterday and I just opened it up right away to see what it was for, or if something actually changed. I disabled Plume from the Active Display list, which didn't change anything, I got the same result for email (Maildroid) and Snapchat.
I guess it kind of makes sense that it repeats, as there is no LED on the phone, but it seems a little excessive. I don't know how much power is saved by using white on black in the small area of the screen, but it's bugging me a little because I don't remember it doing this before.
Thanks for any input anyone has on this...
fury683 said:
I guess it kind of makes sense that it repeats, as there is no LED on the phone, but it seems a little excessive. I don't know how much power is saved by using white on black in the small area of the screen, but it's bugging me a little because I don't remember it doing this before.
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It's normal. When you have a notification, the screen pulses instead of having a notification LED.
I haven't measured it, but it's my impression that it slows down the pulsing if the phone sits quietly for a while after the notification happens (I seem to notice that, if I ignore the notification, I don't see it as much). It really uses almost no battery, though, so don't worry about it.
Does the phone always light up when driving? I don't remember it happening on my old X but it's lights up at every bump on my new X.
Thinking I've frozen something I shouldn't have. Did not use assist on either phone.
binary visions said:
It's normal. When you have a notification, the screen pulses instead of having a notification LED.
I haven't measured it, but it's my impression that it slows down the pulsing if the phone sits quietly for a while after the notification happens (I seem to notice that, if I ignore the notification, I don't see it as much). It really uses almost no battery, though, so don't worry about it.
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Thanks for the quick reply. I'm guessing yesterday I either cleared them quickly, or they were present long enough to go slower and I didn't notice the repetition.
I will have to play around with what I actually want notifications for. Plume (Twitter) is the worst, followed by email. I wish I could turn on different channels for Plume so that Mentions/DMs could go to Active Display, but regular tweets didn't, but still have it do all in the notification shade. I might have to just settle for not getting a notification for all new tweets. Or increase my poll time...
Email might get shut off too. I get too much spam to care, and rarely get any emails that are urgent enough to warrant it.
Yes, mine lights up when driving Lol. The second I press on the gas it lights up, tripped me out the first few days owning the device, but I'm used to it now.
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Is there a modification that I can unlock the phone with active display?

So for example, normally, you have active display turn on automatically showing you just the notifications (still need to slide to unlock/wake screen) by vibration (assuming also light is detected ie not in pocket).
Is there a mod that I can add or an option where I can have this 'on vibration' open the screen immediately and not just on active display?
So something like what it's doing now by skipping the active display screen directly and just waking the screen and go straight to the phone.
And of course I have no password on my lockscreen
Does that kinda make sense? Is there something like this out there or a setting somewhere?
I have rooted, unlocked bootloader XT1053 with xposed and gravity box.
Sounds like a dead battery waiting to happen to me. If I bump my desk wrong at work and my phone isn't face down, active display lights up. It can do this several times in the period of 10 minutes, in essence leaving the screen on permanently.
1dtms said:
So for example, normally, you have active display turn on automatically showing you just the notifications (still need to slide to unlock/wake screen) by vibration (assuming also light is detected ie not in pocket).
Is there a mod that I can add or an option where I can have this 'on vibration' open the screen immediately and not just on active display?
So something like what it's doing now by skipping the active display screen directly and just waking the screen and go straight to the phone.
And of course I have no password on my lockscreen
Does that kinda make sense? Is there something like this out there or a setting somewhere?
I have rooted, unlocked bootloader XT1053 with xposed and gravity box.
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There is nothing like this currently available....and IMO, that is a terrible idea. The whole point of AD is to provide notifications while just barely sipping battery power. Assuming such a modification was made consider this one of MANY scenarios:
You have your phone in your car, it 'sees light', it feels vibrations and so it turns on the screen. Now, not only are you using full battery power to light the display, but unless you reach over and click it back of with the power button, it is going to stay on for whatever length of time you have the display timeout set to.
Just imagine how quickly this could kill your battery....
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There is nothing like this currently available....and IMO, that is a terrible idea. The whole point of AD is to provide notifications while just barely sipping battery power. Assuming such a modification was made consider this one of MANY scenarios:
You have your phone in your car, it 'sees light', it feels vibrations and so it turns on the screen. Now, not only are you using full battery power to light the display, but unless you reach over and click it back of with the power button, it is going to stay on for whatever length of time you have the display timeout set to.
Just imagine how quickly this could kill your battery....
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well for those reasons I understand and would expect some toggle feature for when you want this and when you don't
1dtms said:
well for those reasons I understand and would expect some toggle feature for when you want this and when you don't
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Could you elaborate on which situations you would like the screen to turn on like that based on notifications instead or active display?
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Set your screen timeout to 30 minutes and use the power button to turn it off. Then also turn off the lock screen. About as good as you're going to get, and short of coding the modification yourself, probably the best you'll get too.
I said in another thread recently.... Active Display is what it is. There's no way to modify it in anyway.

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