So for example, normally, you have active display turn on automatically showing you just the notifications (still need to slide to unlock/wake screen) by vibration (assuming also light is detected ie not in pocket).
Is there a mod that I can add or an option where I can have this 'on vibration' open the screen immediately and not just on active display?
So something like what it's doing now by skipping the active display screen directly and just waking the screen and go straight to the phone.
And of course I have no password on my lockscreen
Does that kinda make sense? Is there something like this out there or a setting somewhere?
I have rooted, unlocked bootloader XT1053 with xposed and gravity box.
Sounds like a dead battery waiting to happen to me. If I bump my desk wrong at work and my phone isn't face down, active display lights up. It can do this several times in the period of 10 minutes, in essence leaving the screen on permanently.
1dtms said:
So for example, normally, you have active display turn on automatically showing you just the notifications (still need to slide to unlock/wake screen) by vibration (assuming also light is detected ie not in pocket).
Is there a mod that I can add or an option where I can have this 'on vibration' open the screen immediately and not just on active display?
So something like what it's doing now by skipping the active display screen directly and just waking the screen and go straight to the phone.
And of course I have no password on my lockscreen
Does that kinda make sense? Is there something like this out there or a setting somewhere?
I have rooted, unlocked bootloader XT1053 with xposed and gravity box.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
There is nothing like this currently available....and IMO, that is a terrible idea. The whole point of AD is to provide notifications while just barely sipping battery power. Assuming such a modification was made consider this one of MANY scenarios:
You have your phone in your car, it 'sees light', it feels vibrations and so it turns on the screen. Now, not only are you using full battery power to light the display, but unless you reach over and click it back of with the power button, it is going to stay on for whatever length of time you have the display timeout set to.
Just imagine how quickly this could kill your battery....
samwathegreat said:
There is nothing like this currently available....and IMO, that is a terrible idea. The whole point of AD is to provide notifications while just barely sipping battery power. Assuming such a modification was made consider this one of MANY scenarios:
You have your phone in your car, it 'sees light', it feels vibrations and so it turns on the screen. Now, not only are you using full battery power to light the display, but unless you reach over and click it back of with the power button, it is going to stay on for whatever length of time you have the display timeout set to.
Just imagine how quickly this could kill your battery....
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
well for those reasons I understand and would expect some toggle feature for when you want this and when you don't
1dtms said:
well for those reasons I understand and would expect some toggle feature for when you want this and when you don't
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Could you elaborate on which situations you would like the screen to turn on like that based on notifications instead or active display?
Enviado desde mi XT1058 usando Tapatalk 2
Set your screen timeout to 30 minutes and use the power button to turn it off. Then also turn off the lock screen. About as good as you're going to get, and short of coding the modification yourself, probably the best you'll get too.
I said in another thread recently.... Active Display is what it is. There's no way to modify it in anyway.
Related
Is there anyway to have active display always show up as my main lockscreen every time i click the power button?
wsbuck said:
Is there anyway to have active display always show up as my main lockscreen every time i click the power button?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Nah, just get used to triggering it if you need it. I hardly ever find myself needing to use the normal lockscreen, personally, I just sort of adapted. If I want the screen to turn on without picking up the phone, I move it a half-inch to the left, and Active Display pops on. Of course it's already on when I take it out of my pocket, or pick it up. Never had a need to activate it any other way.
modulusshift said:
Nah, just get used to triggering it if you need it. I hardly ever find myself needing to use the normal lockscreen, personally, I just sort of adapted. If I want the screen to turn on without picking up the phone, I move it a half-inch to the left, and Active Display pops on. Of course it's already on when I take it out of my pocket, or pick it up. Never had a need to activate it any other way.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Same here. I never use the power button to turn my phone on, the active notification screen turns on quite literally every time I go to use my phone. It's brilliant.
Sent from my XT1058 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
Combined with a turn screen off widget/app and a mute widget/app, I never use any buttons on this phone.
You can do what I did and disable lockscreen completely. That way only active notifications will show when you pick up the phone.
This might seem like a dumb question but whenever I set my phone down and it is moved even in the slightest the Active Display lockscreen turns on. Is there anyway possible to disable that?
That's the cool thing about this phone. Don't worry about it
Chronos300 said:
This might seem like a dumb question but whenever I set my phone down and it is moved even in the slightest the Active Display lockscreen turns on. Is there anyway possible to disable that?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You will get used to it and come to love it. the great thing is that it doesn't adversely effect your battery, it uses the special built in processors. I thought it was weird at first but now I just tap my phone or bump the table to see my notifications.
I love it because I never have to push the power button to turn my device on. This is a great way to save wear and tear on your power button. A lot of devices that rely on one button all the time (power button) end up with that button not working anymore. If I didn't have this option I would be using my volume rocker to power up my phone.
Sent from my XT1060 using Tapatalk
This is easily my favorite feature about the Moto X. All I gotta do is pick up my phone and it automagically shows me any notifications and is ready to be unlocked. Power button? What's that?
Sent from my Nexus 5 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
I like this feature. I usually tap my finger on the screen or press off to one side so the phone rocks slightly on the curved back to get the display to come on. As someone else said, it saves a lot of wear on the power button. I can't tell you how often I clicked my Razr Maxx on just to see what time it was, and clicked it off again immediately. The button never wore out, but it's nice not having to do it at all.
I do have a question though. I got the phone on Wednesday and didn't notice this at all until this morning, and I don't know if it's normal or not. While getting ready for work this morning I noticed the Active Display fire on and off a few times in a row. I thought since it was right at 7am that I may have gotten a few emails close together or something, and didn't worry about it.
When I got to work I set my phone on my desk and was reading emails and such and I noticed the display puling on and off about every 5-6 seconds. It fades in, holds for maybe 1 second and fades out. It only had one notification, for Plume (Twitter), which only polls every 15 minutes in the background, so I knew it wasn't getting new notifications repeatedly.
I can't remember if this was happening yesterday and I just opened it up right away to see what it was for, or if something actually changed. I disabled Plume from the Active Display list, which didn't change anything, I got the same result for email (Maildroid) and Snapchat.
I guess it kind of makes sense that it repeats, as there is no LED on the phone, but it seems a little excessive. I don't know how much power is saved by using white on black in the small area of the screen, but it's bugging me a little because I don't remember it doing this before.
Thanks for any input anyone has on this...
fury683 said:
I guess it kind of makes sense that it repeats, as there is no LED on the phone, but it seems a little excessive. I don't know how much power is saved by using white on black in the small area of the screen, but it's bugging me a little because I don't remember it doing this before.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It's normal. When you have a notification, the screen pulses instead of having a notification LED.
I haven't measured it, but it's my impression that it slows down the pulsing if the phone sits quietly for a while after the notification happens (I seem to notice that, if I ignore the notification, I don't see it as much). It really uses almost no battery, though, so don't worry about it.
Does the phone always light up when driving? I don't remember it happening on my old X but it's lights up at every bump on my new X.
Thinking I've frozen something I shouldn't have. Did not use assist on either phone.
binary visions said:
It's normal. When you have a notification, the screen pulses instead of having a notification LED.
I haven't measured it, but it's my impression that it slows down the pulsing if the phone sits quietly for a while after the notification happens (I seem to notice that, if I ignore the notification, I don't see it as much). It really uses almost no battery, though, so don't worry about it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks for the quick reply. I'm guessing yesterday I either cleared them quickly, or they were present long enough to go slower and I didn't notice the repetition.
I will have to play around with what I actually want notifications for. Plume (Twitter) is the worst, followed by email. I wish I could turn on different channels for Plume so that Mentions/DMs could go to Active Display, but regular tweets didn't, but still have it do all in the notification shade. I might have to just settle for not getting a notification for all new tweets. Or increase my poll time...
Email might get shut off too. I get too much spam to care, and rarely get any emails that are urgent enough to warrant it.
Yes, mine lights up when driving Lol. The second I press on the gas it lights up, tripped me out the first few days owning the device, but I'm used to it now.
Sent from my XT1058 using xda app-developers app
This may have been answered elsewhere , but I am coming from an S4 and I was wondering why my Droid Turbo when I pick it flashes the lock screen.
I have moto display turned on for notifications and I like that, I do not have the the wave/hand proximity turned on.
The phone will slide in the car seat and the lock screen will come on I pick it up and it flashes on. Then it goes on and I keep moving it around it will then flash back on again. Or every time I take it out of my pocket it comes on.
I heard something about Moto screens breathing or something.
thanks!
joeunc said:
This may have been answered elsewhere , but I am coming from an S4 and I was wondering why my Droid Turbo when I pick it flashes the lock screen.
I have moto display turned on for notifications and I like that, I do not have the the wave/hand proximity turned on.
The phone will slide in the car seat and the lock screen will come on I pick it up and it flashes on. Then it goes on and I keep moving it around it will then flash back on again. Or every time I take it out of my pocket it comes on.
I heard something about Moto screens breathing or something.
thanks!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Moto Actions controls that. I actually like it because I can check the time just by waving my hand over the phone without having to hit a button. You could try disabling Moto Actions to see if that helps.
Ally Android said:
Moto Actions controls that. I actually like it because I can check the time just by waving my hand over the phone without having to hit a button. You could try disabling Moto Actions to see if that helps.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
All the moto actions are disabled, I only have active display on to show notifications. The one where you wave to turn the screen on is not enabled
thx
joeunc said:
All the moto actions are disabled, I only have active display on to show notifications. The one where you wave to turn the screen on is not enabled
thx
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Did you just turn off the settings or disable the app?
Ally Android said:
Did you just turn off the settings or disable the app?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Here is what I see happening, if you turn on Moto Display to flash notifications, each time I just pick the phone or move it the lock screen and time flahes.
If I turn off Moto Display, no notifications flash and when I move the phone no lockscreen, no nothing.
Should be a way to see the notifications flash in and out, but not react to just moving the phone by flashing lock screen
thx
There are two separate apps in play here. Moto Display and Moto Actions.
Moto Display is what you want to keep active so that it will show you on the lock screen when you get a message, etc.
Moto Actions is what happens when you move your hand towards the phone.
If you go into your apps settings and manually disable the Moto Actions app. It will prevent the phone from flashing the lock screen when it detects movement.
Ally Android said:
There are two separate apps in play here. Moto Display and Moto Actions.
Moto Display is what you want to keep active so that it will show you on the lock screen when you get a message, etc.
Moto Actions is what happens when you move your hand towards the phone.
If you go into your apps settings and manually disable the Moto Actions app. It will prevent the phone from flashing the lock screen when it detects movement.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I know,. all the Moto Actions are turned off, I only have Moto Display on and have chosen the apps I want to show.
Phone sits on the desk, for a few minutes screen black I reach over and pick it up lock screen comes on
I just restarted and no change
thanks
Do you have "Approach" turned off under moto actions? Cuz that's exactly what it sounds like you have turned on.
Sent from my XT1254 using XDA Free mobile app
Mine does the same thing it may be because the twist for camera is on? all other options are turned off (battery Saving)
Every time I move the phone the notification screen lights up but I noticed if you cover the proximity sensor on the top of phone it doesnt light up at all
Its part of the active display. It comes on when the phone is moved. I do wish there was a setting for it to only come on when you have a notification, but there isn't a setting for that that I know of. I know a lot of ppl like this "feature," but I do miss just the simple notification led.
i do not have approach or twist for camera on at all. I only have the notify on notifications.
phone sitting there , black screen just lift one side up and the screen comes on
Moto Actions/Moto Dispaly
Interesting thread because it illustrates the various preferences we all have in interacting with our phones. I think it's pretty neat that Moto developed these options despite the fact that I've turned off some of the features.
For example, I don't need it to sense my eyes, so I turned off that. I don't need it to turn on each time I wave my hand. It was turning on with shadows/sun/clouds while driving and anytime I'd move my arm. Don't like that.
What I do like is the intermittent notifications as well as the screen turning on if I move the phone. What we do with the notifications is pretty cool too. I like my Turbo Droid.
Cheers!
joeunc said:
i do not have approach or twist for camera on at all. I only have the notify on notifications.
phone sitting there , black screen just lift one side up and the screen comes on
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Seems to be some confusion in here.
Moto Display uses two methods to turn on the screen. It uses the phone's accelerometer to tell if you move the device. If you move the device at all, Moto Display will turn on. Only way to stop this is to turn off Moto Display.
The other method uses the front IR sensors to detect if you wave your hand in front of the screen. This method can be turned off within Moto Actions.
The screen constantly flashing (especially in the car) is annoying, but it has almost no battery impact.
That's what I was looking for, so it's the accelerometer making it come on as I don't have the hand activation turned on, I just have the moto notifications in Moto display turned on
joshm.1219 said:
Seems to be some confusion in here.
Moto Display uses two methods to turn on the screen. It uses the phone's accelerometer to tell if you move the device. If you move the device at all, Moto Display will turn on. Only way to stop this is to turn off Moto Display.
The other method uses the front IR sensors to detect if you wave your hand in front of the screen. This method can be turned off within Moto Actions.
The screen constantly flashing (especially in the car) is annoying, but it has almost no battery impact.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Here is the right solution
Go to settings > App > In all app tab select these two app 1) Moto Display 2) Moto Action, now disable these both app and now the phone wont flash clock..
If you have RR Rom installed I think there is an option to turn on and off the hand wave and/or the "pick-up" sensing.
I found out how to stop the clock and battery circle when I move. You set it by just clicking the Moto app. And turn it off.
It's not done I'm settings. You have to open the app from the home screen.
Trust me, the thing blinking every time I moved when the screen was turned off was driving me nuts!
It appears that ambient display does not work when your screen lock setting is set to None.
I was showing a mate my Nexus 6 yesterday and started playing with a few settings. I noticed that all of a sudden my ambient display stopped working. I did some testing this morning and finally worked it out that when the screen lock setting is set to None, ambient display does not activate. Any notifications that come through stop appearing on the screen. Setting the screen lock setting to anything other than None ensures ambient display works once again.
1. Is this a known feature / situation for the N6 ?
2. Is anyone else experiencing the same behavior or is it just me ?
1. if you dont have a lockscreen then it cant show you notifications on it. duh, lol.
2. we all have known about this since before lollipop came out.
1. I see no reason why a notification could not be shown on the screen using ambient display even if I don't have a lock screen. It is not like I have actually turned the screen on yet.
2. And yet, when I tried searching for an answer to why my ambient display wasn't working, I found no mention of it at all, not in XDA or the web in general.
Thanks for clearing it up for me, it is clearly a feature of the phone.
budorat said:
1. I see no reason why a notification could not be shown on the screen using ambient display even if I don't have a lock screen. It is not like I have actually turned the screen on yet.
2. And yet, when I tried searching for an answer to why my ambient display wasn't working, I found no mention of it at all, not in XDA or the web in general.
Thanks for clearing it up for me, it is clearly a feature of the phone.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
if you dont have a lockscreen, then it has nothing to show the incoming message on. if no lockscreen, then it would just show in the status bar.
I understand your point simms22, but I think you may be missing mine. Does it have to be the lock screen that the notification is shown on when it arrives.
For example, msg arrive, screen turns on to show msg. If I do nothing then the screen turns off. If I haven't interacted with the screen, does the notification really need the lock screen to be displayed? I guess that I'm just not convinced that the lock screen is needed to display notifications when I pick my phone up, ie before I touch the screen. If I then interact with a notification then perform the interaction, but if I touch a part of the screen where is no notification, open the device.
The above would be mute if I pick the device up and press the power button to open the home screen.
I guess I look at things a little different, I design systems and interfaces for a living for the Dept of Defence.
I have found that the ambient display does not always activate when I pick the phone up, I'd say its about 90% reliable, have u found the same ?
budorat said:
I understand your point simms22, but I think you may be missing mine. Does it have to be the lock screen that the notification is shown on when it arrives.
For example, msg arrive, screen turns on to show msg. If I do nothing then the screen turns off. If I haven't interacted with the screen, does the notification really need the lock screen to be displayed? I guess that I'm just not convinced that the lock screen is needed to display notifications when I pick my phone up, ie before I touch the screen. If I then interact with a notification then perform the interaction, but if I touch a part of the screen where is no notification, open the device.
The above would be mute if I pick the device up and press the power button to open the home screen.
I guess I look at things a little different, I design systems and interfaces for a living for the Dept of Defence.
I have found that the ambient display does not always activate when I pick the phone up, I'd say its about 90% reliable, have u found the same ?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
yea, the way the code is written, there needs to be a lock screen to be displayed. i dont really use it anymore, but i found it to be around 90% as well.
Just to re-iterate, Ambient display is displaying the Lockscreen notifications, not SystemUI notifications, so to show the lockscreen notifications, Lockscreen must be on.
budorat said:
It appears that ambient display does not work when your screen lock setting is set to None.
I was showing a mate my Nexus 6 yesterday and started playing with a few settings. I noticed that all of a sudden my ambient display stopped working. I did some testing this morning and finally worked it out that when the screen lock setting is set to None, ambient display does not activate. Any notifications that come through stop appearing on the screen. Setting the screen lock setting to anything other than None ensures ambient display works once again.
1. Is this a known feature / situation for the N6 ?
2. Is anyone else experiencing the same behavior or is it just me ?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I totally agree. I upgraded from my 2013 Moto X, with Moto DIsplay, to the N6. I NEVER used a lock screen on the Motox, and enjoyed being able to just glance at the phone to know what was incoming.. its quite annoying that I can no longer get my notifications to show up on my screen without turning the phone on, and pulling the shade down. I'm on the computer all day, and have my phone setup next to me and use it to get a quick view of incoming work emails, with out taking my hands off the keyboard, or even stop typing for that matter.
If I would have known that the N6 was unable to work in this matter I would not have gotten it. I would have gone with the Moto X 2 instead.
Hi guys. Do you know any, preferably minimalistic, screen lock app that is compatible with ambient display? Have tried my fav Zui Locker with no luck.
tr3mm0r said:
Hi guys. Do you know any, preferably minimalistic, screen lock app that is compatible with ambient display? Have tried my fav Zui Locker with no luck.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I dont think it works with any.
That's what I was afraid of. Sticking with stock locker then since I love the new feature.
Sent from my Nexus 6 using XDA Free mobile app
Any thoughts on how to keep the screen on forever like the LG V20 allowed me to? I realized that I never put my phone down, in my pocket, connected to a cradle, without turning the screen off first, so why should I use some low screen timeout number when I hate having it turn off on me when I don't need it to? Furthermore, I couldn't find a way to have my car dock setup keep the screen on without the use of an app on the LG, and I hate having a stupid notification on the bar to tell me "hey, we're doing something for you all the time, thanks for using this app!" if I don't have to. I'm trying to sell you on the idea, not sure why, but those are my reasons in case someone asks why I prefer it this way....
ANYWAYS, the maximum timeout is 10 mins on the Note8, and I couldn't find anything other than the setting in developer's options to keep screen on while charging (which, I'll have you know for those trying to suggest that one, dims the screen after a period of time - I don't know what that is, I just know I saw it do it once and turned that setting off because that's not what I need while using Google Maps and driving). Any thoughts on this, natively, within the phone's own settings somehow???
KryptosXLayer2 said:
Any thoughts on how to keep the screen on forever like the LG V20 allowed me to? I realized that I never put my phone down, in my pocket, connected to a cradle, without turning the screen off first, so why should I use some low screen timeout number when I hate having it turn off on me when I don't need it to? Furthermore, I couldn't find a way to have my car dock setup keep the screen on without the use of an app on the LG, and I hate having a stupid notification on the bar to tell me "hey, we're doing something for you all the time, thanks for using this app!" if I don't have to. I'm trying to sell you on the idea, not sure why, but those are my reasons in case someone asks why I prefer it this way....
ANYWAYS, the maximum timeout is 10 mins on the Note8, and I couldn't find anything other than the setting in developer's options to keep screen on while charging (which, I'll have you know for those trying to suggest that one, dims the screen after a period of time - I don't know what that is, I just know I saw it do it once and turned that setting off because that's not what I need while using Google Maps and driving). Any thoughts on this, natively, within the phone's own settings somehow???
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Just FYI, you can get rid of those "always running" notifications indefinitely by swiping the notification to the right and tapping "block notifications". It simply removes the card, and has no affect on the apps functionality.
Use Caffeine.
- Open it, give it the proper permissions (it will ask)
- Enable it
- Enable " Start at boot" and "Auto enable at boot"
- Close the app, open the notification panel, swipe right on the caffeine card and tap "block all notifications".
- As long as you don't go and change the display timeout settings in the actual settings app, your phone will never auto turn off, and can only be turned on/off manually just like normal.
And if app drawer clutter is something you want to get rid of, just hide the app icon.
imatts said:
And if app drawer clutter is something you want to get rid of, just hide the app icon.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm familiar with this method, even familiar with Caffeine, which I like more than any of the other junk ones in the Play Store, but I was hoping for something built-in that wouldn't require another running app to do something simple - Samsung / Android should have all the simple stuff figured out by now.... this was DEFINITIVELY the only thing the V20 had over the Note7 and now the Note8, I hated almost everything else about the phone but wasn't going backwards to the S7 when I had to turn the the Note7.
Thanks for your help, will use this solution until / unless someone has another (native, preferable) solution
Found the issue with using Caffeine as opposed to something native. Caffeine does a great job of keeping the screen in no matter what, any time it comes on. This also includes if the power state is changed, a missed call comes through, etc. It will turn on the screen, show you the lock screen, and just sit there.
The LG was capable of shutting the screen off after a short timeout when only on the lock screen, which would allow a notification or change in power from keeping the screen on indefinitely because it wasn't forcing ANY screen on input from doing it, only when unlocked, when it was appropriate to do so.
Any thoughts on how to fix this?
Be very careful. Unlike your LG v20 this phone has a AMOLED display. If you leave it on the same screen for a long time it will cause burn in on the display.
What ever happened to Screebl? I was going to recommend it to a friend, and couldn't find it any more... I guess it has just survived the port from phone to phone.
Sent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk
Xshooter726 said:
Be very careful. Unlike your LG v20 this phone has a AMOLED display. If you leave it on the same screen for a long time it will cause burn in on the display.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
See signature - not my first AMOLED display phone.... When the screen is on for a long time, it's because I'm driving and using Maps and switching to Play Music, etc. I'm trying to avoid having the screen on all night long with it coming on when A) the phone gets fully charged, and B) when a notification or something wakes it because Caffeine is almost "too good" at what it does!
Hate that I had to use an app to do this, but I am really liking Screen Timeout that disables the timeout options Samsung gave us all together. Would love to know how to get this done, without the need for root, where I don't have to disable notifications for an app that constantly runs, though....
What it does, if anyone cares, is make none of the selections selected so the screen stays on ONLY when unlocked, exactly what I figured out I was looking for. I hope this helps someone else looking for a solution like this!
Here's the link to the app I'm using:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.lhoer0.screentimeout