Color saturation & accuracy - Google Pixel 2 Real Life Review

If you're colorblind, please disregard this thread. Rate this thread to express how you deem the color saturation and accuracy of the Google Pixel 2's display. A higher rating indicates that you think that color accuracy is very high and saturation is excellent.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

Some brief observations about Pixel 2's display (in Natural and Boosted color modes):
+ Max brightness is pretty bright, and should provide adequate visibility in most conditions.
+ Nice, deep, inky, and uniform black, just as you'd expect from an OLED.
- Pure green (#00FF00) renders considerably lighter and paler than reference. Using my eyes alone, I can't tell how much of this is due to undersaturation vs color inaccuracy. The result is that elements that are mostly green (e.g. Google Hangouts icon, plant life in photos) sometimes look noticeably less vibrant in comparison to other elements on the screen.
- Red is undersaturated relative to the other colors. This is evidenced by the green tint that is clearly visible when viewing yellow and orange colors. Deep reds skew slightly purple as well.
- The display's color temperature appears cool in all but the brightest of indoor viewing conditions. I'm sure it looks neutral (i.e. great) under the blaring fluorescent lights of an electronics store, but isn't as well suited for home or office viewing. Some people prefer cooler colors. I'm of the mind that neutral or very slightly warm color temperature displays are much easier on the eyes and more visually appealing.
Most 2017 OLED smartphone displays I've seen have the problems I've listed, albeit to varying degrees. I'd chalk it up to the difficulties inherent to OLED screens, but past experience suggests otherwise: I've owned OLED phones with better color accuracy all the way back to 2013. It seems like things really got worse this year. Not sure if its the displays themselves or the color profiles being applied.
Using the new Saturated color mode swings the color temperature to a more neutral position, but the resulting appearance is way too saturated in general for my liking, and it doesn't completely resolve the issue of inaccurate reds.
I'm disappointed, as the display's color issues cause it to fall short of what I expect to find on a phone in Pixel 2's price range. I haven't decided yet whether I'm going to keep it.

Yellow!
Receive mine today, and the colour calibration was way off... I thought it a little yellow at first, and perhaps the beach on the default wallpaper might be influencing my judgement. Installed a few aps, played around with the settings, and then compared it with my previous phone and oh dear - it was clearly very yellow. Greys in particular looked awful, and whites like aged paper rather than white. So disappointing.
I also compared the colours with my aging Nexus 7, and that looked much better too, as do my various monitors. I've RMA'd the device, and will give one more a go before deciding whether to keep it. Such a shame - one of the main reasons I went for a 2 rather than a 2 XL was the supposedly better display... And if only Google would allow us to calibrate the colours ourselves, I could probably have resolved the issue myself.

Color calibration is indeed terrible.
Comparing it to me previous phone, google pixel XL. It makes some colors fade in such a weird and ugly way.
I cant stand it

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[Q] Is it me or everybody facing screen burn issues with Moto X?

My Moto X screen looks too yellowish compared to other LCD display phones like Nexus, iPhone's etc. Is it the issue with Moto X's Amoled display or something is wrong with my device?
What you're noticing is just the inherent difference in color reproduction between AMOLED and IPS displays. Most IPS displays have cooler color temperatures and do a better job at producing a true white although with less color saturation.
That being said, I have gone though 2 Moto Xs and the first one came with a very poorly calibrated display and a gross greenish tint. My second one was much better, but I returned it for other reasons, future burn in being one of them. Burn in is different from the problem you're seeing and can best be described as bad tan lines. Some areas of the screen will have different brightness (mostly the nav and notification areas) and it will be obvious when you switch to landscape mode that something isn't right.
If you think something is wrong with your screen and still have a valid warranty, give Motorola a call and let them know about it. They seem to be pretty good about making things right.
No screen burn for me... Had the phone since January and mostly a heavy user too. Maybe no burn because I keep the brightness level down most of the time?
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Jayrod1980 said:
No screen burn for me... Had the phone since January and mostly a heavy user too. Maybe no burn because I keep the brightness level down most of the time?
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Frankly, it's just a case of not taking care of the fact that we're using OLED tech which is sensitive to static images much like Plasma tech. If you're on Kitkat and use transparent bars like most of us: I can't imagine how anyone could suffer from burn-in that won't go away with time.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/fyi-dim-screen-moto-white-glove-t2753559
But I did not keep it long enough to notice burn.
No burn in here, but I use fullscreen so I don't have a notification or navigation bar.
makakalo said:
What you're noticing is just the inherent difference in color reproduction between AMOLED and IPS displays. Most IPS displays have cooler color temperatures and do a better job at producing a true white although with less color saturation.
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This is absolutely wrong, no offence. IPS displays do not have any cooler colour temperature! They are less saturated than AMOLED displays mostly, and thus the colours look less vibrant, or more accurate if you will. At the same time they will look extremely dull / pale. If possible just look at the S5's display, it has the best white I have seen in a while, neither yellowish or bluish, near perfect.
And yes, I agree with OP, there is a slight Yellowish tint on mine. This reminds me of the the Galaxy S2's display panel. There is nothing you can do other than getting adjusted with it, but you can try increasing the Blue bias of the screen, to something like +3 or +4. There is an app called Screen Adjuster on Google Play to do that. I am using that now, never thought I would have to use it again since S2 days. By increasing the Blue bias the screen will look little "cooler", the Yellowish white will become Bluish white.
This has nothing to do with burn in by the way.
I should have been more clear about that. It's the backlight source that affects color temp the most. Since most IPS displays use white LEDs for backlighting they appear cooler than many (not all) AMOLED panels and older TN displays using CCFLs. Since the individual pixels are their own backlight with AMOLED there is more variability in color reproduction depending on use and calibration.
And it does have something to do with burn-in. If you have a mostly blue background then those subpixels will see more use than the red and green subpixels. Once the blue subpixels fade enough you're left with a yellow tinted screen. It's not burn-in in the traditional CRT sense, but it's still uneven wear. IMO: The small perks of Active Display are not worth having a screen that can be damaged by normal use.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2404256
Questions go in the Q&A section.
I called up Motorola customer care and they asked me to visit nearest service center. They will have a look and decide if anything is wrong in the device. So, this yellowish tint is bit common in Moto X due to AMOLED screen.
rishi.gohil said:
I called up Motorola customer care and they asked me to visit nearest service center. They will have a look and decide if anything is wrong in the device. So, this yellowish tint is bit common in Moto X due to AMOLED screen.
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It can be. There's a member around who got like 4 replacements or something....all with different degrees of it.
I find you don't notice it after a bit.... Unless you put 2 phones side by side.
Personally it doesn't bother me....it would if it was too yellow. I find the dimmer the screen, the more you notice it also.
My first moto x I had since October got burn in around January. I got a new one in June and I have burn in again. It isn't enough to warrant another replacement (yet).
Can someone explain to me how this phone suffers burn in? Burn in is a thing from old CRT televisions, not really the new LED screens (at least, to my knowledge)
i've always used gravitybox to give the statusbar a grayish color instead of black (and here lately the tinted statusbar xposed module) and keep it in expanded desktop with pie controls, so there's no nav bar, and not seeing any burn issues yet, had it since Dec. the horrifically bad burn in on my note 2 is what made me want to be extra careful with the x.
No burn in here after 7 months on mine nor my sister's Moto X.
fargles said:
Can someone explain to me how this phone suffers burn in? Burn in is a thing from old CRT televisions, not really the new LED screens (at least, to my knowledge)
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Burn in is common in amoled type displays, specifically on phones such that rely on a nav bar instead of capacitive buttons. The longer the screen is on, or the higher the brightness, the bigger the possibility for screen burn in . Out of the three amoled phones I have owned, the two that have burnt in both had on screen nav bars. I hope this (non technical) summary helps

Excellent glowing review of the Tab S super amoled screen.

THIS AINT YOUR FATHER'S AMOLED SCREEN:
Are you having problems with your Tab S screen? Yellowing or mura effects in low light? Read this glowing in depth review of what the Tab S super amoled screen should be. If yours doesn't compare to what they describe here you may wish to consider an exchange. Good read.
http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2014/06/the-best-tablet-display-isnt-on-an-ipad/
Based on our extensive Lab tests and measurements, the Galaxy Tab S is the best performing tablet display that we have ever tested, not surprisingly with performance that is almost identical to the OLED Galaxy S5 Smartphone that we recently tested and found to be the Best Performing Smartphone Display. The Galaxy Tab S establishes new records for best Tablet display performance in: Highest Colour Accuracy, Infinite Contrast Ratio, Lowest Screen Reflectance, and smallest Brightness Variation with Viewing Angle. Both Galaxy Tab S models offer Quad HD 2560×1600 pixel displays (with 287 to 361 pixels per inch), currently the highest for tablets, with 4.1 megapixels, double the number on your HDTV. Where the Galaxy Tab S does very well but does not break performance records is in maximum display Brightness — the current record holder for tablets is the Nokia Lumia 2520 with 684 nits, while the Tab S has 546 nits with Automatic Brightness On and 415 nits under manual Brightness (10 per cent lower for mixed content with 50 per cent Average Picture Level APL and 25 per cent lower for an all white screen). High screen Brightness is only needed for High Ambient Light, so turning Automatic Brightness On will provide better screen visibility and also a longer battery running time. Its record low Screen Reflectance of 4.7 per cent further improves the effective screen Brightness, resulting in a very high Contrast Rating for High Ambient Light with Automatic Brightness On.
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mitchellvii said:
THIS AINT YOUR FATHER'S AMOLED SCREEN:
Are you having problems with your Tab S screen? Yellowing or mura effects in low light? Read this glowing in depth review of what the Tab S super amoled screen should be. If yours doesn't compare to what they describe here you may wish to consider an exchange. Good read.
http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2014/06/the-best-tablet-display-isnt-on-an-ipad/
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Thanks for the read. I don't see any mention to tests for a Mura effect though. The only reference to the screen uniformity doesn't refer to any kind of tests, just a general statement about OLED technology:
"Screen Uniformity
One subtle but important advantage of OLEDs is their excellent screen uniformity compared to LCDs, which often show hot spots and shadows from the edge LED lighting."
I will check in new stores tomorrow and look for mura effects, as well as check for stuttering. I so love the device besides for these flaws, that I sure hope to find one that will be doing good on every aspect.
ukael said:
Thanks for the read. I don't see any mention to tests for a Mura effect though. The only reference to the screen uniformity doesn't refer to any kind of tests, just a general statement about OLED technology:
"Screen Uniformity
One subtle but important advantage of OLEDs is their excellent screen uniformity compared to LCDs, which often show hot spots and shadows from the edge LED lighting."
I will check in new stores tomorrow and look for mura effects, as well as check for stuttering. I so love the device besides for these flaws, that I sure hope to find one that will be doing good on every aspect.
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Cool. Here's one test you can run.
1) Have the sales person get out a box of the device you want.
2) Go to www.samsung.com
3) Open your account (if you don't have one create one).
4) Attempt to register the new tablet (you aren't actually going to register it).
5) Enter the tablet's serial number in the space given.
6) It will then indicate to you the manufactured date of that tablet.
7) You want something more recent than your problem tablet (which you've already checked using the same method) to ensure that new tablet is not part of the same flawed manufacturing run.
If the salesperson asks you what you are doing simply explain you are looking up the manufacture date and this is the only way to do it. You are not going to actually register the tablet.
*Also consider the 10.5 instead. They seem to be more stable and use a different structure in their screen than the 8.4.

Contrast (true blacks)

How well do you know your fifty shades of grey? Rate this thread to express how good the LG Nexus 5X's display contrast is. A higher rating indicates that black is true black, rather than a very dark gray.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
Meh contrast. Blacks are kind of a dark gray.
Best black levels I've seen on an IPS display to date, ambient display looks practically like OLED on here.
True contrast ratio is about 1:1500 and looks amazing.
Huge improvement over the N5 which was no slouch in the display quality department itself.
Blacks are as good as I would ever expect on a LCD display.
EDIT: Just did a side by side comparison with my Nexus 5 and the blacks/contrast on the Nexus 5X is better than the Nexus 5. Also, screen uniformity on the Nexus 5X is better. The screen obviously can't do pure black like an AMOLED can but it's pretty good for a LCD with perfect uniformity(at least that I can tell) across the entire screen. On the Nexus 5X with a full black background in a totally dark room with the brightness at 100% and my Nexus 5X has ZERO light bleed from the edges of the display. I think this is the first time in my life that I can say that. Every LCD I have ever seen(smartphone, TV, computer monitor, etc) had some level of light bleed from the edges.
I still prefer AMOLED to LCD but as far as LCDs go I have 0 complaints for the Nexus 5X.

Crisper screen image?

So my partner has a new iPhone 6s Plus and the clarity of his screen has me envious.
Checked the specs on GMS the N6 has more pixels and a higher density %, so what gives?
Is it the AMOLED screen? Is it possible to get that level of clarity?
Do you have a screen protector on? Those can make display look fuzzy, especially the anti-glare protectors.
my n6 screen is much more crisp than an I phones..
I suggest doing two things,
1- With a custom kernel, pick a color profile that fits you; and/or
2- Download this:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=flar2.hbmwidget
exekias said:
So my partner has a new iPhone 6s Plus and the clarity of his screen has me envious.
Checked the specs on GMS the N6 has more pixels and a higher density %, so what gives?
Is it the AMOLED screen? Is it possible to get that level of clarity?
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Yes, kind of.
AMOLED is... visually TERRIBLE. There are two advantages it has over a conventional LCD; (1) lower power consumption -- black pixels are actually switched off. (2) no backlight means no light bleeding through "black", in other words, black is more black on an AMOLED than an LCD.
The other part of it is that AMOLED actually *CHEATS* on its resolution claims. Something called an "RGBG subpixel matrix". The "RGBG" part is particularly important, since it describes the actual layout of the R, G, and B pixels -- for Red, Green, and Blue. Notice that there are twice as many G's as R's or B's.... Right. Its only 2560x1440 in GREEN. The Red and Blue are each only 2560x720. THAT is why the higher pixel density LOOKS less sharp than the apple LCD. You can thank samsung for that one, AMOLED is their tech.
So for the question about whether or not you can get that same (or better) clarity of of a Nexus 6... sure, if the image is ALL GREEN.
Edit: These are the Android phone's I've owned, in chronological order;
2008: HTC Dream, 480x320 LCD -- reasonable, given the low resolution.
2010: HTC Vision, 800x480 LCD -- at its time, absolutely stunning. Still "pleasant".
2012: Samsung Relay, 800x480 AMOLED -- if looking at something could cause your eyes to bleed, this would have done just that. Absolutely the WORST display imaginable. I had MUCH higher hopes for it, given all the "good" I'd heard about AMOLED and how "crisp" and "high contrast" they were supposed to be. That it could be dramatically WORSE than the 480x320 on the HTC Dream was stunning. I was expecting it to at least be "close" to the HTC Vision.
2015: Nexus 6, 2560x1440 AMOLED -- while visually the best so far, it is only because of the absurdly high number of pixels. So many that it has a significant negative impact on graphic performance. I would gladly sacrifice a little bit of battery and contrast to get the performance of 1920x1080.
turn up your brightness, N6's screen looks terrible at low brightness unless you have a kcal kernel to adjust the colors (stock warm colors look fuzzier imo compared to cool colors). The iphone having a LCD makes it look basically the same at any brightness at least color and sharpness-wise.
iphone is crisp because of its tech..
but i love nexus more..
i dont adore the nexus because of its screen but i love android because its an ANDROID
Honestly, I'm just getting old. I think the Nexus 6 screen is perfectly fine - crisp and clear.

Question Pixel 7 display colors washed out and dull

Hi All, I have just received my Pixel 7 and am really disappointed with how dull and washed out the display looks. When comparing it to my current OnePlus 8t's display it is lacking a lot of vibrancy and color accuracy. It has a slight green tint that makes viewing photo's a very sub-par experience.
Is anybody else having the same experience? also, is there a way to change the color profile manually?
I agree that the color on the Pixel 7 is a bit off. The "Natural" color profile is extremely dull and I feel like the "Adaptive" color profile is just weird. Sometimes I feel like it has a green or yellow hue and the blues and whites aren't popping enough...
I'm coming from a Oneplus 6T and have been using the "Display P3" or "AMOLED Wide Gamut" profiles for as long as I can remember but I wanted to see if the 6T's "Natural" profile looked similar to the Pixel 7's "Natural" profile for comparison and after putting them side-by-side, it seems to me that they are near identical.
Now I'm no expert but I feel like this means that the Pixel 7's "Adaptive" profile could be improved or that they could simply add in more profiles in the future. But one thing is for sure, I really don't like the default profiles on the Pixel 7 and I'd like if they tweaked them asap.
it jsut take your eyes a few days to adapt to it, I thought Natural looks fine...
That's the problem, I can't get used to it as it looks that bad.
It looks like others have noticed the same issue.
Pixel 7 & 7 Pro display colors appear washed out on some units
A section of Google Pixel 7 and 7 Pro users are reporting that display colors appear washed out and whites have yellow tint.
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