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Wave-to-Wake feature?

Will the nexus 6 have wave-to-wake feature like the Moto X 2014?
If not by default then is it possible that it can have this feature in future by any means??

No, it does not have it by default.
There are apps that can use the proximity sensor with older phones to wake it up, so I imagine that at some point, yes, it will be possible to replicate the Moto X wave-to-wake feature via app.

jt3 said:
No, it does not have it by default.
There are apps that can use the proximity sensor with older phones to wake it up, so I imagine that at some point, yes, it will be possible to replicate the Moto X wave-to-wake feature via app.
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Ok.. I hope it does happen...

I use this this feature frequently on my Moto X 2014. I will definitely miss it if I get a N6.

Here's the app I use on my Nexus 5. Assuming there aren't any issues running it under Lollipop, it has a setting that wake the phone with a wave. However, I'm not sure whether it will FULLY wake the phone, or let you just activate Ambient Screen. Maybe contacting the dev, and requesting an Ambient Screen setting would help.
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It wont by default - it is a moto specific software feature.
Begging or hoping it is added will do nothing, as the nexus is from google OS wise, and moto hasn't added that specific software (or hardware, see below) to it like the moto X.
Your best hope is 3rd party app that can give that capability, however that said, the phone would have to have the IR sensors like the X in order to detect the handwaving, which AFAIK it doesn't have.

Is this the same feature found in the note 2?

RW-1 said:
...the phone would have to have the IR sensors like the X in order to detect the handwaving, which AFAIK it doesn't have.
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All modern smart phones have proximity sensors though, and third-party developers have tapped into those. The trick isn't the detection, it's the activation of Ambient Screen without fully waking the phone.
For instance, the Gravity Screen app I posted earlier will wake my N5 with a wave over the screen just perfectly, but it FULLY wakes the device. If they can alter that to give the option of waking the device, or only activating Ambient Screen, then it would almost perfectly emulate the Moto function.

Why isn't it possible to replicate Active Display/Moto Actions via an Xposed Module?

Just curious why someone hasn't been able to rip the Active Display or Moto Actions software/code and reproduce it as an xposed module that can be used on other phones. I get that battery drain might be an issue on phones that don't have a secondary processor for handling gestures/movement/etc... but at least to have the option to try it out would be nice?
Is there some reason this hasn't been done successfully?

I'm also very interested in this. AC Display is a good enough replacement for Moto Display, but what about Moto Voice? Only Samsung, LG, Moto, and Nexus seem to have an always on OK Google function (meaning that it works even with the screen off). I would pay for an Xposed module that enabled this on other phones.

After OTA Proximity Wake toggle missing

When I first customized my OP5 settings under OOS 4.5.0 (before the last two OTAs) there was a "Proximity Wake" toggle under "Settings->Display-Ambient display". The feature allowed you to wave your hand near the OP5 and the display lit up briefly so you could see the lock screen. See "How to Enable Proximity Wake" and the accompanying YouTube demo.
Since the first and second OTA that option has been replaced with an "Lift up display" toggle. I'd much rather the proximity Wake feature or better yet, both.
Does anyone know why that feature was replaced? Did it not work reliably?

It's possible it was using too much battery power.
In an effort to save battery the setting was lost on the wayside...

ultramag69 said:
It's possible it was using too much battery power.
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+1

ultramag69 said:
It's possible it was using too much battery power.
In an effort to save battery the setting was lost on the wayside...
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A reasonable assertion but maybe they should've let the functionality be limited to "while on charger" like other battery sucking features. Thanks for your input.

All the Moto phones have this including the the Moto Z play and it has the longest battery life of just about any phone. This a a great feature and one of the reasons I bought a OP5 . Can't believe they just got rid of it.

Maybe if enough people complain it will be put back in by another Ota. One plus do seem to at least listen to the Dev community. ..

3DSammy said:
A reasonable assertion but maybe they should've let the functionality be limited to "while on charger" like other battery sucking features. Thanks for your input.
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Yeah this was a great feature I had on my Nokia 1020, if it was causing battery drain on the OP5 then put an alert when you toggle it that it will have a direct impact on the battery life. Crisis averted then.

Ambient display in general is sort of weird on this phone. It doesn't exactly do what I thought it would. Maybe the removal of this feature is one of the reasons. But with the notification light so dim (maybe this can be altered with a mod or future ROM, I hope), the live display aspect is sort of needed. Is there a post on the OP forums on this yet? Someone should make one.

This is something I really miss from my old Moto

If you are rooted, there is a workaround to have proximity wake enabled. Instructions are provided in this thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-5/how-to/guide-how-to-enable-ambient-display-t3690488/page4

Turn off haptic feedback on fingerprint scanner.

Hi all,
I've just received my Nokia 8 yesterday and I'm impressed so far however one thing is really bugging me.
Does anybody know how to turn off the haptic feedback on the fingerprint scanner when I am waking my device. I can't find the setting anywhere

There's no such one.

Ok fair enough. Thanks
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It is, however, one way to turn off the fingerprint scanner vibration; set the phone in battery saving mode and it doesnt vibrate on scan anymore.
Not ideal, I know.

You can stop the vibrations.
Go to Settings -> Sound -> Advanced -> under the heading "Other sounds and vibrations" go to "Vibrate on tap" and turn that off. This will stop the haptic feedback on the 3 buttons at the bottom of the phone.
Also, to stop the haptic feedback if you set your security to enter a pin number for your SIM card, go to Settings -> System -> Languages & input -> Virtual Keyboard -> Gboard -> Preferences -> and turn Vibrate on keypress off. I personally use the Swype keyboard as my main input method but because the SIM security interface pops up before that keyboard is loaded when you boot, you have to change it in the Gboard settings to see the effect.
Hope it helps

sirthommo said:
You can stop the vibrations.
Go to Settings -> Sound -> Advanced -> under the heading "Other sounds and vibrations" go to "Vibrate on tap" and turn that off. This will stop the haptic feedback on the 3 buttons at the bottom of the phone.
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I have always had vibrate on tap turned off and the finger print scanner still vibrates when you use it.

I think it's normal, it must somehow notify if the scan went correctly or not. With the screen off, haptic feedback is the only discreet solution. Even my Nexus 5X behaved the same way and did not allow its disabling

I believe their could be away to stop the vibration if we knew the App that it is responsible for fingerprint vibration and turn vibration off in settings of this app.
for example the Nokia 8 vibrate after missed calls, and we can stop that from App notification in settings, so I'm looking to solve this issue the same way.
so any one know which app is responsible for fingerprint reader feed back & vibration ??

bobsie41 said:
Hi all,
I've just received my Nokia 8 yesterday and I'm impressed so far however one thing is really bugging me.
Does anybody know how to turn off the haptic feedback on the fingerprint scanner when I am waking my device. I can't find the setting anywhere
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It also bother me and i contacted nokia. They said it cannot be disabled

Is this a Nokia issue or it's Oreo related?

EmpiresEmpires said:
Is this a Nokia issue or it's Oreo related?
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It works like this always, also on Pixel and Nexus. It's a normal behavior, a way to make the user understand in a discreet way that the scan was successful or not.
I don't understand why you are asking this question as if it were a bug or a lack.
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cri347 said:
It works like this always, also on Pixel and Nexus. It's a normal behavior, a way to make the user understand in a discreet way that the scan was successful or not.
I don't understand why you are asking this question as if it were a bug or a lack.
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Actually it is a bug, I unlock my smartphone like more than 50 times a day and maybe more, I don't need to get notified by vibration every time I unlock my smartphone.
this is an Android misbehavior.

one-option said:
Actually it is a bug, I unlock my smartphone like more than 50 times a day and maybe more, I don't need to get notified by vibration every time I unlock my smartphone.
this is an Android misbehavior.
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It isn't a bug, it's the normal behavior. It works like this on any smartphone in the world, have you noticed only now and on this specific device?
It's not a notification, it's an haptic feedback: one impulse, finger recognized; two impulse, finger not recognized; nothing, something wrong, doesn't work.
The problem that you put is like saying that I block the device several times a day and don't want the excursion and the click of the physical button, IMHO.
If anything, the problem to be asked would be to make the feedback more discrete by modulating the vibration differently.
Without that feedback, how would you realize if there was an error in the scan or does the reader not work? (considers that the unlock works with screen off and it would be a waste of battery to turn it on only to notify the wrong scan).
In the end it seems to me a philosophical question and in any case should not be placed for this specific device, but for everyone, since it works so everywhere.

No, it's a android feature, not a bug. If it wouldn't work, then it would define as a bug and would be fixed.
But seriously, it would be a minor battery saving trick to be able to disable it. It's the reason why I disabled haptic feedback on typing several years ago, as it effected battery life tremendously.

Just to add to the existing consensus, it is definitely working as intended.
Or perhaps more accurately (seeing as I can't read the minds of Nokia's development team) it is working exactly the same as it does on any of the other android phones with fingerprint readers I have used recently.
Personally I find it useful as it provides feedback on if my fingerprint has been read and if it has been successful.
Because I often unlock my phone as I'm removing it from my pocket or as I'm picking it up so that it is unlocked by the time it's in front of my eyes the physical feedback is definitely appreciated.

cri347 said:
It works like this always, also on Pixel and Nexus. It's a normal behavior, a way to make the user understand in a discreet way that the scan was successful or not.
I don't understand why you are asking this question as if it were a bug or a lack.
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Hello,
I don't know. But my previous Huawei P8 lite (2017) had the option to turn it off.
That's why I'm surprised because the (better) Nokia 8 doesn't have this ability.
It's just to avoid much battery loss that it would be nice to have that option (I have to unlock many times per day..)

one-option said:
Actually it is a bug, I unlock my smartphone like more than 50 times a day and maybe more, I don't need to get notified by vibration every time I unlock my smartphone.
this is an Android misbehavior.
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If you want to switch off the vibration then put your phone on battery saving mode and see the magic. Have you seen? Have you seen? Have you seen?

Double tap on Mate 10 Pro

Hi there,
I've found this easy tweak to enable double tap to wake on Huawei/Honor devices.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mate-8/general/enable-double-tap-to-wake-t3312676
I loved this feature on my old G4, as it was not needed to pick up the phone from a desk, etc. Unfortunately, it seems Huawei does not give a f...k and adds and removes it randomly from its products lineup depending on the weather I guess.
The above instructions are really simple on a ROOTED device. Would any candid soul that already has a rooted mate 10, try to see if the feature is at least available in the system file? (super simple to do with a root explorer). My phone is not rooted, as I'd not like to void the warranty in case I return it since I'm not fully happy so far with this and other Huawei SW neglicencies.
Cheers.

reutemann said:
Hi there,
I've found this easy tweak to enable double tap to wake on Huawei/Honor devices.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mate-8/general/enable-double-tap-to-wake-t3312676
I loved this feature on my old G4, as it was not needed to pick up the phone from a desk, etc. Unfortunately, it seems Huawei does not give a f...k and adds and removes it randomly from its products lineup depending on the weather I guess.
The above instructions are really simple on a ROOTED device. Would any candid soul that already has a rooted mate 10, try to see if the feature is at least available in the system file? (super simple to do with a root explorer). My phone is not rooted, as I'd not like to void the warranty in case I return it since I'm not fully happy so far with this and other Huawei SW neglicencies.
Cheers.
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It's not working.
You can get the setting to show up but it can't be enabled/stay enabled

ante0 said:
It's not working.
You can get the setting to show up but it can't be enabled/stay enabled
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You mean, the option shows up in the accessibility menu, but not possible to activate right?. Shame on Huawei.
WHICH FIRMWARE ARE YOU ON?. I'm on 142 on a EU hardware.
BTW, any other reliable 3rd party up or alternative to wake up the phone without picking it up or using the power button?

reutemann said:
You mean, the option shows up in the accessibility menu, but not possible to activate right?. Shame on Huawei.
WHICH FIRMWARE ARE YOU ON?. I'm on 142 on a EU hardware.
BTW, any other reliable 3rd party up or alternative to wake up the phone without picking it up or using the power button?
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I'm on B145.
They include a lot of "features" for other Huawei phones, as they seem to use the same sources when they build. Many are non-functioning though.
Face unlock with pick-up to turn on screen works fine. Or just fp reader on the back
But it still requires lifting the phone or putting your finger on the back.

ante0 said:
I'm on B145.
They include a lot of "features" for other Huawei phones, as they seem to use the same sources when they build. Many are non-functioning though.
Face unlock with pick-up to turn on screen works fine. Or just fp reader on the back
But it still requires lifting the phone or putting your finger on the back.
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Right. What a waste of such a great HW with such a poor software, lack of basic premium (?) features on a high end device.
Thanks anyway mate!

reutemann said:
You mean, the option shows up in the accessibility menu, but not possible to activate right?. Shame on Huawei.
WHICH FIRMWARE ARE YOU ON?. I'm on 142 on a EU hardware.
BTW, any other reliable 3rd party up or alternative to wake up the phone without picking it up or using the power button?
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Am sure you are aware kernel must support double tap to wake in order for this switch to work, if u guys have a kernel that supports this... It will work else no way on earth that's happening

BTW, tried a few of those 3rd party apps where I managed to wake the phone up via the IR sensor from the AOD screen. But, this only works for a minute or so, if the AOD is on for longer, IR cannot wake it up.
Looks as if the app is put in a deep state or the sensor not accessible by it once the phone enters a deeper stand by (?).
All power saving crap option disabled. Wrote the developer but no response.
You guys, since you rooted it, would you know if the issue is still present when you freeze power genius via Titanium perhaps?