Hey guys i have been in active for a while butbibrecently picked the phone up and got it 2 days ago. i just unlocked the bootloader and rooted it via funkyhuawei files. I dumped some files including system. img and kernel. little ruty butbwhat files does anyone need to start building. this is the international version if anyone interested. i am using tmobile and i get lte speeds as well as 700mhz ftom tmobile. love it so far
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Hey guys i have been in active for a while butbibrecently picked the phone up and got it 2 days ago. i just unlocked the bootloader and rooted it via funkyhuawei files. I dumped some files including system. img and kernel. little ruty butbwhat files does anyone need to start building. this is the international version if anyone interested. i am using tmobile and i get lte speeds as well as 700mhz ftom tmobile. love it so far
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I have the same model as yours can you get me a link and step-by-step guide how to root this device, I am new to rooting
rjan22 said:
I have the same model as yours can you get me a link and step-by-step guide how to root this device, I am new to rooting
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See here :
https://www.reddit.com/r/FunkyHuawe...and_tool_new_version/?st=ja5ouecc&sh=9caf9b74
daillcyruz said:
Hey guys i have been in active for a while butbibrecently picked the phone up and got it 2 days ago. i just unlocked the bootloader and rooted it via funkyhuawei files. I dumped some files including system. img and kernel. little ruty butbwhat files does anyone need to start building. this is the international version if anyone interested. i am using tmobile and i get lte speeds as well as 700mhz ftom tmobile. love it so far
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Do you get VOLTE and WiFi Calling?
daviddem said:
Do you get VOLTE and WiFi Calling?
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The international model won't have VoLTE or Wifi calling for US operators.
Theoretically, you could rebrand to the AT&T Mate 10 Pro and get Wifi calling for T-Mobile and AT&T.
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See here :
https://www.reddit.com/r/FunkyHuawe...and_tool_new_version/?st=ja5ouecc&sh=9caf9b74
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How did you get the bootloader code, there is no info about that part? Thanks
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I have the same model as yours can you get me a link and step-by-step guide how to root this device, I am new to rooting
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How did you get the bootloader code, there is no info about that part? Thanks
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1. Load up internet Explorer and go to https://emui.huawei.com/en/plugin/unlock/detail.
2. Make an account saying your are from Hong Kong.
3. Paste "https://emui.huawei.com/en/plugin/unlock/detail" back in the URL Bar.
4. Fill out all of the information and hit submit.
No need to email Huawei in google translated Chinese or pay someone for a code.
Finally got OTA update for b119 (c636).
Want to buy the BLA-L29 but have questions:
Hi and thanks for any assistance you can provide:
1. I am buying the Huawei Mate 10 Pro BLA-L29 Version -- In the US, will VoLTE and WiFi Calling work with T-Mobile?
2. If no on my first question, if I re-branded it to the AT&T ALP-L29, then will VoLTE and WiFi Calling work on T-Mobile?
3. And I am confused -- Isn't the ALP-L29 for the Huawei Mate 10 and not the Mate 10 Pro? Is it OK to re-brand The Mate 10 Pro with the Mate 10 software and will everything still work on the Pro correctly?
4. Last Question: If I am only using 1 sim card and I am on a phone call, will I be able to browse the web at 4G LTE or will it drop to 3G while I am on the call? This was my experience with an international version of the P9 Plus. So I am just doing my homework before I buy the Huawei Mate 10 Pro BLA-L29.
Thanks!
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Finally got OTA update for b119 (c636).
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I still haven't received it for my phone yet, which country are you in?
ramheer said:
I still haven't received it for my phone yet, which country are you in?
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I received it a couple of days ago on my 4/64 Mate 10 and I'm in UK
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I still haven't received it for my phone yet, which country are you in?
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Different countries receive differently. Im in middle east, however phone is originally from Singapore market and i received the OTA same time as them.
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I received it a couple of days ago on my 4/64 Mate 10 and I'm in UK
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Im in the UK too running L29 C636 rom flashed on a Chinese mate 10 6gb/128GB still nothing
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Hi and thanks for any assistance you can provide:
1. I am buying the Huawei Mate 10 Pro BLA-L29 Version -- In the US, will VoLTE and WiFi Calling work with T-Mobile?
2. If no on my first question, if I re-branded it to the AT&T ALP-L29, then will VoLTE and WiFi Calling work on T-Mobile?
3. And I am confused -- Isn't the ALP-L29 for the Huawei Mate 10 and not the Mate 10 Pro? Is it OK to re-brand The Mate 10 Pro with the Mate 10 software and will everything still work on the Pro correctly?
4. Last Question: If I am only using 1 sim card and I am on a phone call, will I be able to browse the web at 4G LTE or will it drop to 3G while I am on the call? This was my experience with an international version of the P9 Plus. So I am just doing my homework before I buy the Huawei Mate 10 Pro BLA-L29.
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As far as I know there are territorially different versions of Mate 10 but only 2 versions of Mate 10 pro (BLA-L09 -one sim and BLA_L29 -two sims). Me personally have L29 and it supports both VoLTE and WIFI calling (if operator supports them). And according to specs from Huawei (http://consumer.huawei.com/en/phones/mate10-pro/specs/ and confirmation from technical support) both works on FDD-LTE bands 1/2/3/4/5/6/7/8/9/12/17/18/19/20/26/28/32. Therefore they would be fine with either Tmobile or ATT since LTE of these operators leans mainly on lower bands 700 MHz (17 for ATT and 12 for Tmobile). And yes, two sims version (L29) operates on LTE simultaneously, you can even forward call from one sim to other. So there is no need to rebrand the phone or mess with the system otherwise. The phone operates pretty fair in its original state.
Hope that you find this information useful. Do not hesitate to ask additional questions. I'd be glad to help if I could.
Thanks but see this message from FunkyHuawei
"No, VoLTE and Wifi calling will not work.
If you rebrand to AT&T which is not ALP but BLA-A09, it will work.
AT&T is not ALP, it's BLA
If you have VoLTE, you'll still be connected to LTE when you're on a call."
So essentially FunkyHuawei, those nice folks who try to help you get your Huawei devices working the way you need them to are saying the BLA-L variants won't allow VoLTE in the USA but the AT&T version on the Mate 10 Pro will allow it so they are suggesting unlocking bootloader and rebranding it to BLA-A09. So another variant has appeared planned for US release only on AtT as BLA-A09...
It's the 1 Sim 4gb version just like the L09.
Are you using your L29 in the US and on what carrier?
Thanks for your help.
I would prefer to get the BLA-L29 anyhow.
Regards
Kevin
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"No, VoLTE and Wifi calling will not work.
If you rebrand to AT&T which is not ALP but BLA-A09, it will work.
AT&T is not ALP, it's BLA
If you have VoLTE, you'll still be connected to LTE when you're on a call."
So essentially FunkyHuawei, those nice folks who try to help you get your Huawei devices working the way you need them to are saying the BLA-L variants won't allow VoLTE in the USA but the AT&T version on the Mate 10 Pro will allow it so they are suggesting unlocking bootloader and rebranding it to BLA-A09. So another variant has appeared planned for US release only on AtT as BLA-A09...
It's the 1 Sim 4gb version just like the L09.
Are you using your L29 in the US and on what carrier?
Thanks for your help.
I would prefer to get the BLA-L29 anyhow.
Regards
Kevin
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No, I'm currently not in the USA, but I travell a lot and therefore the problem is interesting for me as well. And yes, the people with FunkyHuawei are right about BLA-A09 (Huawei Blanc). But the real question is how come that VoLTE dosn't work with ATT and how to remedy that issue with as less pain as possible.
Checking https://www.frequencycheck.com/models/GBYLg/huawei-mate-10-pro-td-lte-bla-a09-huawei-blanc and other relevant sites shows that as far as hardware is concern BLA-A09 is equal BLA-L09. So where is the differece? It seems that ATT doesn't brand phones only by putting some bloatware but use some restrictions as well. There is no hardware or software difference on using VoLTE anywhere in the world and as you could see from attached pictures Mate 10 Pro functions so that it simply shows in the menu options to enable either VoLTE or WIFI calling or both if the operator supports them. Otherwise those options simply don't appear.
Mobile operators in the USA have pretty strong position, they can decide which phone and how may be connected to their networks. And ATT obviously decided that only branded phones from its side could use VoLTE (...Even the pixel didn't work because of AT&T's restrictions - https://forum.xda-developers.com/essential-phone/help/volte-wifi-calling-sms-att-t3665838).
So the essential question is how that restriction works. There are some indicators that it is on the hardware side (https://forums.att.com/t5/Device-Features/VOLTE-calls/td-p/5273138). That would be good because the chances are that incorporation of BLA-A09 model automatically draws all same models into the story. The worst case would be if the VoLTE availability is assigned individually, in that case rebranding doesn't solve anything.
Why concerns about rebranding? Because it is trade off. You need to unlock bootloader and install custom recovery in order to rebrand the phone. It is not only a bit risky procedure, it draws other consequences. One of nice features I would be hardly missing is Android Pay. It doesn't work with unlocked bootloader and TWRP. And even more apps connected with SafetyNet are to come.
From time to time there is bypass with Magisk but it is a mouse and a cat game, Google try hard to purges its effect. And you don't want to rely on payment solution which wouldn't work when is needed.
So my advise is, if you want 2 sims Mate Pro, don't hurry with rebranding. Wait until other options are researched and see if all models could have ATT Volte enabled. Last but not least in the USA Google Voice could be useful additional possibility. And I don't have VoLTE with my primary operator but WIFI calling works perfect. Even ordinary calling is clear and natural with HD voice enabled.
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No, I'm currently not in the USA, but I travell a lot and therefore the problem is interesting for me as well. And yes, the people with FunkyHuawei are right about BLA-A09 (Huawei Blanc). But the real question is how come that VoLTE dosn't work with ATT and how to remedy that issue with as less pain as possible.
Checking https://www.frequencycheck.com/models/GBYLg/huawei-mate-10-pro-td-lte-bla-a09-huawei-blanc and other relevant sites shows that as far as hardware is concern BLA-A09 is equal BLA-L09. So where is the differece? It seems that ATT doesn't brand phones only by putting some bloatware but use some restrictions as well. There is no hardware or software difference on using VoLTE anywhere in the world and as you could see from attached pictures Mate 10 Pro functions so that it simply shows in the menu options to enable either VoLTE or WIFI calling or both if the operator supports them. Otherwise those options simply don't appear.
Mobile operators in the USA have pretty strong position, they can decide which phone and how may be connected to their networks. And ATT obviously decided that only branded phones from its side could use VoLTE (...Even the pixel didn't work because of AT&T's restrictions - https://forum.xda-developers.com/essential-phone/help/volte-wifi-calling-sms-att-t3665838).
So the essential question is how that restriction works. There are some indicators that it is on the hardware side (https://forums.att.com/t5/Device-Features/VOLTE-calls/td-p/5273138). That would be good because the chances are that incorporation of BLA-A09 model automatically draws all same models into the story. The worst case would be if the VoLTE availability is assigned individually, in that case rebranding doesn't solve anything.
Why concerns about rebranding? Because it is trade off. You need to unlock bootloader and install custom recovery in order to rebrand the phone. It is not only a bit risky procedure, it draws other consequences. One of nice features I would be hardly missing is Android Pay. It doesn't work with unlocked bootloader and TWRP. And even more apps connected with SafetyNet are to come.
From time to time there is bypass with Magisk but it is a mouse and a cat game, Google try hard to purges its effect. And you don't want to rely on payment solution which wouldn't work when is needed.
So my advise is, if you want 2 sims Mate Pro, don't hurry with rebranding. Wait until other options are researched and see if all models could have ATT Volte enabled. Last but not least in the USA Google Voice could be useful additional possibility. And I don't have VoLTE with my primary operator but WIFI calling works perfect. Even ordinary calling is clear and natural with HD voice enabled.
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On Huawei phones, VoLTE is a software issue. There may be IMEI blocks and whatnot on the carrier end, but there is a software block on the software end. It's been proven that if you rebrand a Mate 9 to the US branding, you get VoLTE in the US, on T-Mobile anyway. If not, you don't.
There is a file which dictates whether or not to allow VoLTE on various providers, and the configuration of this file is different for each branding. It's as simple as that.
As far as I know for most of us, volte only works with "carrier branded firmware".
Trying to get BLA-L29 VoLTE to work on T-Mobile
So - According to T-Mobile, they have NO restrictions being the un-carrier. They stated that it has to be on the Mate 10 Pro BLA-L29 end that is restricting the VoLTE options from even showing up on my settings on the phone. Yet, I contacted Huawei International Technical support and they seem to believe that the BLA-L29 should support VoLTE as long as the carrier supports it. They took my IMEI, software build, etc.. and are looking into it. I will reply on this forum if they come back to me with a solution to getting VoLTE to work in the US on T-Mobile.
The EXCELLENT and AMAZING guy over at Funkyhuawei had someone try the ATT re-branding onto a BLA-L29 and still no dice with the VoLTE showing up or working with T-Mobile. So - If anyone has any ideas how to get VoLTE working on my BLA-L29 version, I am all ears. Some people ask - what does it matter if you get VoLTE as long as 4G LTE is working on the phone and you are getting great download speeds -- My reply is because when I make a phone call, that signal drops from 4G to 3G or to H and then I cannot browse the web while on a phone call which I tend to do a lot. I mean I can browse the web, but at 3G speeds, it is basically unusable. Takes like 30 seconds for google.com to load. LOL. We have all become spoiled by LTE and we want our speed!
Lastly - Does anyone know if the version they are releasing on AT&T will be locked to AT&T? Or are AT&T phones sold unlocked or unlockable? Though the fact that VoLTE didn't work on the AT&T rebranded BLA-L29, I am not sure if it will even work on AT&T when they actually release the phone.
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So - According to T-Mobile, they have NO restrictions being the un-carrier. They stated that it has to be on the Mate 10 Pro BLA-L29 end that is restricting the VoLTE options from even showing up on my settings on the phone. Yet, I contacted Huawei International Technical support and they seem to believe that the BLA-L29 should support VoLTE as long as the carrier supports it. They took my IMEI, software build, etc.. and are looking into it. I will reply on this forum if they come back to me with a solution to getting VoLTE to work in the US on T-Mobile.
The EXCELLENT and AMAZING guy over at Funkyhuawei had someone try the ATT re-branding onto a BLA-L29 and still no dice with the VoLTE showing up or working with T-Mobile. So - If anyone has any ideas how to get VoLTE working on my BLA-L29 version, I am all ears. Some people ask - what does it matter if you get VoLTE as long as 4G LTE is working on the phone and you are getting great download speeds -- My reply is because when I make a phone call, that signal drops from 4G to 3G or to H and then I cannot browse the web while on a phone call which I tend to do a lot. I mean I can browse the web, but at 3G speeds, it is basically unusable. Takes like 30 seconds for google.com to load. LOL. We have all become spoiled by LTE and we want our speed!
Lastly - Does anyone know if the version they are releasing on AT&T will be locked to AT&T? Or are AT&T phones sold unlocked or unlockable? Though the fact that VoLTE didn't work on the AT&T rebranded BLA-L29, I am not sure if it will even work on AT&T when they actually release the phone.
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Thank you for looking into this, I am very curious to hear what Huawei/Tmobile concludes about VoLTE support on this international brand, because this is the exact situation I am about to be in (mine is coming from Ebay tomorrow!)
Unfortunately I can't answer most of your questions because they are ones I am looking for an answer to as well, but your last one I can shed the little bit of light I have on it.
According to Duurara on the FunkyHuawei thread, he said that the AT&T brand will work on Tmobile, but he had also said that branding to the AT&T firmware should also enable VoLTE working across either AT&t or Tmobile. But if you are saying that is not true, then we may not have any full answers yet and you may be our saving grace to these questions.
Best of luck and keep us updated please!
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I have tried everything I can come up with or find on the internet. Change apn, have at&t add imei, swap out some cards etc. Can not get LTE to work on my OnePlus 3t. I love the phone but... Am I missing something? I see people claiming that they have LTE working but I can't seem to get it to work.
its a probability that you have a Chinese phone , i just have the saqme situation as you , i tried everything , from:
Tried all the same as you
i try with another sim card from another carrier
and nothing work ,inclusive i mailed the guy who sell me the phone (because it was a used phone) and he swear to me that it was the US version , because i started to have some doubts about the version of my phone.
the last thing i did , and recommend that do the same is email one plus and send them you IMEI number , and as i suspect , it was a Chinese phone
I ended returning the phone to the seller , and buying a one plus 3t directly from one plus website , after waiting some time , i get the phone , put my lte/4g sim card from att , turn it on , and you know what i did have lte/4g service as soon as it connect to the network.
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I have tried everything I can come up with or find on the internet. Change apn, have at&t add imei, swap out some cards etc. Can not get LTE to work on my OnePlus 3t. I love the phone but... Am I missing something? I see people claiming that they have LTE working but I can't seem to get it to work.
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where did you buy it? I bought OP3 off of amazon and it was international one and i couldn`t get LTE on Att, Amazon still had it listed as it had the bands for ATT Lte so it went back.
It is model A3010 TD-LTE which understand is the US version.
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its a probability that you have a Chinese phone , i just have the saqme situation as you , i tried everything , from:
Tried all the same as you
i try with another sim card from another carrier
and nothing work ,inclusive i mailed the guy who sell me the phone (because it was a used phone) and he swear to me that it was the US version , because i started to have some doubts about the version of my phone.
the last thing i did , and recommend that do the same is email one plus and send them you IMEI number , and as i suspect , it was a Chinese phone
I ended returning the phone to the seller , and buying a one plus 3t directly from one plus website , after waiting some time , i get the phone , put my lte/4g sim card from att , turn it on , and you know what i did have lte/4g service as soon as it connect to the network.
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Why do you think that you don't have LTE?
Says H+ in status bar and speed tests would indicate that I don't have LTE. Only 8-10mbs download.
ryan49er said:
Says H+ in status bar and speed tests would indicate that I don't have LTE. Only 8-10mbs download.
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ahhhhh
Through further research I believe the phone I bought is the Chinese model. Bought it form ebay, not advertised as the Chinese model. Said it was shipping from new jersey and did ship from China. I am requesting a refund now so I can order the proper phone. Thanks to all.
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Why do you think that you don't have LTE?
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Test speed (cannot get more than 8mb)
No LTE / 4g icon just H and soooometimes H+
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ryan49er said:
Through further research I believe the phone I bought is the Chinese model. Bought it form ebay, not advertised as the Chinese model. Said it was shipping from new jersey and did ship from China. I am requesting a refund now so I can order the proper phone. Thanks to all.
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It's annoying some people just can do right things , in my case inclusive , after tell the guy who sell me the phone that mailed OnePlus and give the imei , and got the conclusion that the phone was Chinese ,he still says that that the phone was US version
Hope we help you , good luck
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One more question. If I root, is it possible to enable North American LTE bands. I did in fact order the Chinese phone by mistake...
ryan49er said:
One more question. If I root, is it possible to enable North American LTE bands. I did in fact order the Chinese phone by mistake...
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No , Is not Posible, it's a hardware thing that you can't change with software
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I think you must do this; http://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-3/how-to/guide-unlock-additional-lte-bands-t3519563
How can I tell whether I have the US or Chinese version?
About phone > Model number simply says "ONEPLUS A3000" but I'm also not seeing an option to enable LTE.
I bought mine directly from OnePlus.
cheshyre said:
How can I tell whether I have the US or Chinese version?
About phone > Model number simply says "ONEPLUS A3000" but I'm also not seeing an option to enable LTE.
I bought mine directly from OnePlus.
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4G = LTE
Make sure you have Settings / Sim & Network / Preferred Network Type / 2G/3G/4G (Automatic)
Anyone know if the exynos version would work on verizon? I assume that that it would but the 1x and 3g would not. lol, i would be ok with that if i also go root and TWRP.
My follow up question is where could we order it? It would be nice to get it right from samsung, but i don't see that option.
I have the same question
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I have the same question
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i think this is the place to buy it. Since they will open it up and use one of their sims to make 5 minutes of calls before sending it to us, so it doesn't lock up once we get it.
Has anyone used 4g exclusively on verizon, what are the drawbacks?
I know where to buy it here in the US. I could actually buy it today. Just want to know if it will work on Verizon
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I know where to buy it here in the US. I could actually buy it today. Just want to know if it will work on Verizon
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I dont think you will be able to use it to make phone calls or msg because verizon use a CDMA network for this and the exynos version doesnt have this. Just my guess.
Samsung's soc never supports cdma (big Q owns the patents) so that's why the rest of the world who aren't on cdma gets the exynos versions
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Samsung's soc never supports cdma (big Q owns the patents) so that's why the rest of the world who aren't on cdma gets the exynos versions
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That's not true at all, my Galaxy Tab S2 is an Exynos and runs on Verizon LTE., and the galaxy S6 was an Exynos 7420 on Verizon.
Oh I stand corrected. I knew the tablets were supported but figured since you don't make calls from them, it wouldn't need cdma. In either case, unless it's made for Verizon, the exynos versions won't natively support Verizon.
The FCC filing shows it support the Verizon LTE bands, but no CDMA bands.
It would probably work for data but I am not sure if it would work for calls, unless they implement VOLTE on the international version for Verizon.
Guys it's best to wait for the North American unlocked version (Qualcomm chip) to become available in a couple of weeks or so.
It will definitely work on both Verizon and Sprint and their MVNOs.
I can see bhphotovideo taking preorders for it already, and the page is setup on bestbuy. This is the S8 version I'm gonna go for. Downside is it will cost you a little more, but it is worth it to me to know I can use it on all US carriers.
Edit: looks like bhphoto added the model numbers for their preorders as "SM-G950F" and "SM-G955F", which is the same as the European/global GSM version. So that is Exynos chipset powered, and it's a no go for CDMA guys.
The plus on this model is it gets the software updates more quickly than the US unlocked model. (This is still speculation based on Samsung not updating SM-G930U to Android 7 for months while the SM-G930F and the US carrier models already received their updates.)
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Guys it's best to wait for the North American unlocked version (Qualcomm chip) to become available in a couple of weeks or so.
It will definitely work on both Verizon and Sprint and their MVNOs.
I can see bhphotovideo taking preorders for it already, and the page is setup on bestbuy. This is the S8 version I'm gonna go for. Downside is it will cost you a little more, but it is worth it to me to know I can use it on all US carriers.
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unlocked as in unlocked BOOTLOADER? Or just for use on any carrier?
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unlocked as in unlocked BOOTLOADER? Or just for use on any carrier?
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Unlocked as in "unlocked for all carriers" (or "sim free" is what Samsung UK calls their SM-G95*F versions). But I wouldn't be surprised if the bootloader is also unlocked.
My guess, even with the unlocked (unencrypted) bootloader, is once you flash a custom ROM/recovery it will still trip the Samsung Knox binary counter and void the warranty. This is just speculation based on Samsung's devices in the past. We have to wait until someone gets their hand on the US unlocked version.
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Unlocked as in "unlocked for all carriers" (or "sim free" is what Samsung UK calls their SM-G95*F versions). But I wouldn't be surprised if the bootloader is also unlocked.
My guess, even with the unlocked (unencrypted) bootloader, is once you flash a custom ROM/recovery it will still trip the Samsung Knox binary counter and void the warranty. This is just speculation based on Samsung's devices in the past. We have to wait until someone gets their hand on the US unlocked version.
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Sim unlocked at best buy will be out may 9th priced at 725/825
i buy international versions all the time...
don't listen to all these people who just make things up but never used it.
supported bands according to this site just an example:
http://www.china-prices.com/phone/bands/7922/samsung-galaxy-s8-exynos
I have the exynos s7 i bought from B&H in US. on verizon CDMA won't connect, but if you are in a region with VOLTE and you don't travel within US, it should be fine.
all the international versions have much better support if you are on ATT/Tmobile where GSM is the "3g/crippled 4g" I left verizon for Tmobile just to get better support for Exynos.
now... i didn't check validity of the site above, but it gives u an idea. i just wanted to chime in.
Exynos has much better power management IMO. my wife's phone is S7 tmobile variant, and when i was using s7 Exynos, my battery life was BETTER AND i use the phone way more than her throughout the day.
going to, i actually bought s8 TMobile this time... just so i can use samsung pay... samsung pay will work if you modify the CSC and install spay/framework, but guess i'm getting old and getting lazy
exynos will likely get rooted FIRST, and the first root type will likely trip Knox, and without Knox, no samsung pay...
TLDR. Exynos will work on vzw but not all the bands. if you think it's too risky, don't get it.
2 upsides that actually matter IMO when it comes to Exynos versions.
1. less bloat, I say less, because Exynos versions come with all kinds of CSCs from all over the world. and depending on where it came from... you'll see it installing regional specific apps on your initial boot. 1 year i had a phone with Arab CSC and it installed bunch of apps made for Arabs... on another phone i had a UK CSC and it installed all kinds of UK news apps.
2. better battery
3. faster updates from sammobile
jucytec said:
i buy international versions all the time...
don't listen to all these people who just make things up but never used it.
supported bands according to this site just an example:
http://www.china-prices.com/phone/bands/7922/samsung-galaxy-s8-exynos
I have the exynos s7 i bought from B&H in US. on verizon CDMA won't connect, but if you are in a region with VOLTE and you don't travel within US, it should be fine.
all the international versions have much better support if you are on ATT/Tmobile where GSM is the "3g/crippled 4g" I left verizon for Tmobile just to get better support for Exynos.
now... i didn't check validity of the site above, but it gives u an idea. i just wanted to chime in.
Exynos has much better power management IMO. my wife's phone is S7 tmobile variant, and when i was using s7 Exynos, my battery life was BETTER AND i use the phone way more than her throughout the day.
going to, i actually bought s8 TMobile this time... just so i can use samsung pay... samsung pay will work if you modify the CSC and install spay/framework, but guess i'm getting old and getting lazy
exynos will likely get rooted FIRST, and the first root type will likely trip Knox, and without Knox, no samsung pay...
TLDR. Exynos will work on vzw but not all the bands. if you think it's too risky, don't get it.
2 upsides that actually matter IMO when it comes to Exynos versions.
1. less bloat, I say less, because Exynos versions come with all kinds of CSCs from all over the world. and depending on where it came from... you'll see it installing regional specific apps on your initial boot. 1 year i had a phone with Arab CSC and it installed bunch of apps made for Arabs... on another phone i had a UK CSC and it installed all kinds of UK news apps.
2. better battery
3. faster updates from sammobile
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Did you gloss over the fact that regular phone calls wont work on the international Exynos version using a Verizon sim?
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Did you gloss over the fact that regular phone calls wont work on the international Exynos version using a Verizon sim?
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yes... hence i said if you are in an area with VOLTE and you don't travel. that is the reason why i went tmobile.
http://www.phonemore.com/compare/ph...m-g950v-vs-samsung-galaxy-s8-sm-g950u/5341523
look at 2g/3g difference OP
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yes... hence i said if you are in an area with VOLTE and you don't travel. that is the reason why i went tmobile.
http://www.phonemore.com/compare/ph...m-g950v-vs-samsung-galaxy-s8-sm-g950u/5341523
look at 2g/3g difference OP
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I read it I just think its a dumb GSM phone for people that have a dumb CDMA phone provider. LTE only is not a solution Verizon people simply need Verizon phones. Just like Sprint people need Sprint phones. Getting international GSM phones for use on CDMA service providers is stupid. Thats one reason CDMA is crap compared to GSM. Unlocked phones like some apple and moto and rare samsung are the best solution. Best Buy will have the unlocked snapdragon available in 2 weeks for $725/$825
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Anyone know if the exynos version would work on verizon? I assume that that it would but the 1x and 3g would not. lol, i would be ok with that if i also go root and TWRP.
My follow up question is where could we order it? It would be nice to get it right from samsung, but i don't see that option.
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You dont need regular calls? You are going LTE only and hoping you dont miss any calls? If you are using hangouts for calls and don't need cellular phone calls then go get one. Ebay, amazon, they have them for sale, forget warranty unless you want a huge hassle.
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I read it I just think its a dumb GSM phone for people that have a dumb CDMA phone provider. LTE only is not a solution Verizon people simply need Verizon phones. Just like Sprint people need Sprint phones. Getting international GSM phones for use on CDMA service providers is stupid. Thats one reason CDMA is crap compared to GSM. Unlocked phones like some apple and moto and rare samsung are the best solution. Best Buy will have the unlocked snapdragon available in 2 weeks for $725/$825
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You dont need regular calls? You are going LTE only and hoping you dont miss any calls? If you are using hangouts for calls and don't need cellular phone calls then go get one. Ebay, amazon, they have them for sale, forget warranty unless you want a huge hassle.
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I understand everything. I was wondering who has done it in the past. Everyone in my company with the latest update from Verizon has seen their CDMA coverage disappear. Where they once had CDMA service, they now have none. Verizon seem to really be pushing the VoLTE. I've had phones where i have disabled all non 4g bands, because i didn't like it switching, and it actually worked better for me. The main reason i ask is because the international version has root and TWRP. Hopefully the US version will get root, but i don't think we'll every get an unlocked bootloader. The verizon version is already sim unlocked, so i'm not looking for more sim unlocked phones that don't have root.
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I understand everything. I was wondering who has done it in the past. Everyone in my company with the latest update from Verizon has seen their CDMA coverage disappear. Where they once had CDMA service, they now have none. Verizon seem to really be pushing the VoLTE. I've had phones where i have disabled all non 4g bands, because i didn't like it switching, and it actually worked better for me. The main reason i ask is because the international version has root and TWRP. Hopefully the US version will get root, but i don't think we'll every get an unlocked bootloader. The verizon version is already sim unlocked, so i'm not looking for more sim unlocked phones that don't have root.
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I undersrand now. Go exynos based on what you just mentioned
954wrecker said:
I undersrand now. Go exynos based on what you just mentioned
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Thanks for your help and concern. haha, i still don't want to be the first. I'm going to see what happens here before i get too serious about getting it. The risk in waiting is that the current unlocked bootloader method for the exynos may get patched. idk
Hey guys. I got screwed buying a note 9 off of ebay because the seller in the USA did not say it was an international model SM-N960F/DS. I use t-mobile and don't have VoLTE, or VoWifi. Can someone walk me through the process on how to enable this through whatever means necessary. I'm not an idiot with technology and phones but also I have never flashed a new rom or anything. Thanks in advance for your help
Bippoptl said:
Hey guys. I got screwed buying a note 9 off of ebay because the seller in the USA did not say it was an international model SM-N960F/DS. I use t-mobile and don't have VoLTE, or VoWifi. Can someone walk me through the process on how to enable this through whatever means necessary. I'm not an idiot with technology and phones but also I have never flashed a new rom or anything. Thanks in advance for your help
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There's a thread a few inches down in this section about this.
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Bippoptl said:
Hey guys. I got screwed buying a note 9 off of ebay because the seller in the USA did not say it was an international model SM-N960F/DS. I use t-mobile and don't have VoLTE, or VoWifi. Can someone walk me through the process on how to enable this through whatever means necessary. I'm not an idiot with technology and phones but also I have never flashed a new rom or anything. Thanks in advance for your help
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Am afraid you can't get VoLTE enabled on the T-Mobile USA network with the international SM-G960F model
You needed the UN-branded US-model SM-N960U or SM-N960U1, or the BRANDED T-Mobile model SM-N960T
Hey it aint no screw i would love a f model in US
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Hey guys. I got screwed buying a note 9 off of ebay because the seller in the USA did not say it was an international model SM-N960F/DS. I use t-mobile and don't have VoLTE, or VoWifi. Can someone walk me through the process on how to enable this through whatever means necessary. I'm not an idiot with technology and phones but also I have never flashed a new rom or anything. Thanks in advance for your help
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Someone else posted this in the forum:
http://tekhd.com/detonator/#tmodetonator
I cannot vouch for it's effectiveness,but,the dev/user is known here @ XDA.
I'd definitely message 'em before use.
If you use this,please post your results here,lots of people here would be interested & thankful for any info/user results. :good:
With the International model you probably wont be able to get wifi calling or VoLTE working on Tmobile
KOLIOSIS said:
Someone else posted this in the forum:
http://tekhd.com/detonator/#tmodetonator
I cannot vouch for it's effectiveness,but,the dev/user is known here @ XDA.
I'd definitely message 'em before use.
If you use this,please post your results here,lots of people here would be interested & thankful for any info/user results. :good:
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Guy is legit. He's done wonders on previous models. If he says it works, I would say it does.
HAYDENB said:
With the International model you probably wont be able to get wifi calling or VoLTE working on Tmobile
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non sense
It works..tried it
bober10113 said:
non sense
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You will be able to get VoLTE option in the International version. Just insert VoLTE capable sim from your provider and restart the phone. I have tried it with an Indian sim and works perfect. Once you remove the card, VoLTE option disappears.
Ibrah
Does not work in on Thailand phones. Tried my volte sim in a n960f/ds and volte option does not appear
Tinker901 said:
Does not work in on Thailand phones. Tried my volte sim in a n960f/ds and volte option does not appear
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Tinker901 said:
Does not work in on Thailand phones. Tried my volte sim in a n960f/ds and volte option does not appear
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I have TMO with VoLTE/WifiCalling working on the F/DS model ordered through ebay with an original CSC of MYM (Thailand/Unknown). You have to have root, make a backup with TWRP, and use the detonator from the thread posted above TekHD's thread. Go to their telegram channel there is more support there and an updated version from bigTINY on TekHD's channel. Do some more reading on it but it is possible to get all your carrier features enabled on the international phone.
Bippoptl said:
Hey guys. I got screwed buying a note 9 off of ebay because the seller in the USA did not say it was an international model SM-N960F/DS. I use t-mobile and don't have VoLTE, or VoWifi. Can someone walk me through the process on how to enable this through whatever means necessary. I'm not an idiot with technology and phones but also I have never flashed a new rom or anything. Thanks in advance for your help
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Your not alone. My samsung Galaxy Note 9 has the same problem. Yet it in my network information 4glte app it says my phone has volte enabled yet it doesn't work or seem to work for anyone?
After updated to N960FXXS3CSG1, the VOLTE and VOWIFI not work
I am considering picking up a SM-N960F/DS Samsung Galaxy Note 9, installing LineageOS 17.1 with MicroG and use with T-Mobile in the US. I have read that certain T-Mobile Services don't work out of the box, however, I have also read of a TMO Detonator configuration that can be installed which restores those missing features. Is anyone able to share their experience with this Note 9 version on T-Mobile? Did you use TMO Detonator? If so, did TMO Detonator fix all the T-Mobile compatibility issues? If not, which features are still missing? Does Carrier Aggregation work? If not, what LTE Data speeds are possible? Are you happy with the SM-N960F/DS Note 9 experience on T-Mobile? Is there still a site which holds the TMO Detonator File/Package along with Instructions? Any other thoughts or advice? Thanks for your time.
Hello Friends,
Firstly, forgive me if these questions have been asked 100 times. I see a lot of chat about the TMO version but not ATT. Here we go, recently I ordered and received the Unlocked SM-N960F/DS 512GB with Exynos SOC and the phone was absolutely awesome but slow as hell. Unfortunately, I could barely get a reliable signal on AT&T in my city and of course because of the international origin of the phone, none of the carrier features were available like VOLTE, WiFi Calling, HD calling etc. Since then, I’ve returned the phone for a full refund. I am still dead set on purchasing another Note 9 but for the past several days I’ve been wrecking my brain trying to figure which firmware version to get. I am trying with all my might not to buy the locked ATT version SM-N960UZBFATT. Is the unlocked SM-960U version still capable of 4G LTE, VOLTE, WiFi calling, etc? I was also possibly looking at the SM-N9600 but I realize that’s just an unlocked international version with the snapdragon SOC. Any advice or suggestions would be appreciated. I really want to make a decision by Black Friday!Thanks!
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First of all, had you kept your N960F/DS, this mod would have helped you to get all the carrier features working. This mod supposedly work on N9600 as well but judging from the smaller number of dev threads regarding N9600 I'm not sure it'll be a better deal. You should always check for LTE signals on your previous device, taking note the signal strength and which bands it connect to, and check the new device's spec sheet and see if it support the bands.
I really liked that phone so this news is a definite blow! I have a OnePlus 5T that I am currently using until I decide what to do next. Is there an app that would allow me to see which LTE bands I'm connected to so I can make a comparison? I was leaning towards not having to root the phone or unlock the BL so that I could maintain Samsung Pay, Secured Folder, OTA etc. I looked at the link and I've been flashing for years but all the firmware numbers and instructions looked mind boggling to me. Don't want to screw up $1000 phone! Thanks for your input
kgptzac said:
First of all, had you kept your N960F/DS, this mod would have helped you to get all the carrier features working. This mod supposedly work on N9600 as well but judging from the smaller number of dev threads regarding N9600 I'm not sure it'll be a better deal. You should always check for LTE signals on your previous device, taking note the signal strength and which bands it connect to, and check the new device's spec sheet and see if it support the bands.
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dcscorpio76 said:
I really liked that phone so this news is a definite blow! I have a OnePlus 5T that I am currently using until I decide what to do next. Is there an app that would allow me to see which LTE bands I'm connected to so I can make a comparison? I was leaning towards not having to root the phone or unlock the BL so that I could maintain Samsung Pay, Secured Folder, OTA etc. I looked at the link and I've been flashing for years but all the firmware numbers and instructions looked mind boggling to me. Don't want to screw up $1000 phone! Thanks for your input
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If you don't need root and just want everything to work right, then you might as well get the variant used by your carrier (U.S. Snapdragon). Unless there was a specific reason for wanting a different variant like the Exynos model?
sefrcoko said:
If you don't need root and just want everything to work right, then you might as well get the variant used by your carrier (U.S. Snapdragon). Unless there was a specific reason for wanting a different variant like the Exynos model?
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I previously ordered the Exynos model because I read that the BL was unlockable and root was available. The Note 9 itself is amazing and after having the phone for a week, I realized that I actually didn’t mind Knox, Secure folder, OTA, and Samsung Pay. For the first time in many years I considered not rooting the phone. The issue I had with the Exynos was the very poor LTE signal and lack of carrier features I had on my OnePlus 5T like VOLTE, WiFi calling, etc on AT&T. The 4G signal was dismal at best and slow like 3G. That was a dealbreaker and enough for me to send the phone back. I know I want the Note 9, I just need the US version that’s optimized for AT&T I think but at the risk of locked BL. I’ve been eyeing the unlocked model that ends in FXAA but the BL is stilled locked but will be easier to sell when time to upgrade. I’ve also been debating purchasing the N9600 to keep my rooting options open in case I get that itch. I’ve always purchased unlocked phones that I could root and unlock the BL and I know the locked ATT version will never allow it. Earlier, there was a great suggestion made to use a mod that would introduce all of the carrier features to the unlocked models. My only issue with that is tripping Knox and losing the Security features of the phone along with the warranty and Samsung Pay so I’m really debating with what I should do.
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dcscorpio76 said:
I really liked that phone so this news is a definite blow! I have a OnePlus 5T that I am currently using until I decide what to do next. Is there an app that would allow me to see which LTE bands I'm connected to so I can make a comparison? I was leaning towards not having to root the phone or unlock the BL so that I could maintain Samsung Pay, Secured Folder, OTA etc. I looked at the link and I've been flashing for years but all the firmware numbers and instructions looked mind boggling to me. Don't want to screw up $1000 phone! Thanks for your input
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LTE DISCOVERY app
dcscorpio76 said:
I previously ordered the Exynos model because I read that the BL was unlockable and root was available. The Note 9 itself is amazing and after having the phone for a week, I realized that I actually didn’t mind Knox, Secure folder, OTA, and Samsung Pay. For the first time in many years I considered not rooting the phone. The issue I had with the Exynos was the very poor LTE signal and lack of carrier features I had on my OnePlus 5T like VOLTE, WiFi calling, etc on AT&T. The 4G signal was dismal at best and slow like 3G. That was a dealbreaker and enough for me to send the phone back. I know I want the Note 9, I just need the US version that’s optimized for AT&T I think but at the risk of locked BL. I’ve been eyeing the unlocked model that ends in FXAA but the BL is stilled locked but will be easier to sell when time to upgrade. I’ve also been debating purchasing the N9600 to keep my rooting options open in case I get that itch. I’ve always purchased unlocked phones that I could root and unlock the BL and I know the locked ATT version will never allow it. Earlier, there was a great suggestion made to use a mod that would introduce all of the carrier features to the unlocked models. My only issue with that is tripping Knox and losing the Security features of the phone along with the warranty and Samsung Pay so I’m really debating with what I should do.
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I have to say that i am surprised that you have bad network speeds on a. Unlocked model of the Note 9 in the states. I've been using the FD model for about two weeks now and haven't noticed a difference in streaming YouTube, Netflix, browsing Facebook, etc. There is only one spot on my fault train ride that I noticed i have slow speeds but it only last for about 20 seconds. Need to get a second device to see if it's the phone or the network. Other than that it's been great.
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daniel4653 said:
I have to say that i am surprised that you have bad network speeds on a. Unlocked model of the Note 9 in the states. I've been using the FD model for about two weeks now and haven't noticed a difference in streaming YouTube, Netflix, browsing Facebook, etc. There is only one spot on my fault train ride that I noticed i have slow speeds but it only last for about 20 seconds. Need to get a second device to see if it's the phone or the network. Other than that it's been great.
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Depends on the carrier...many are perfectly fine, but users reported issues with others (due to bands and carrier aggregation I believe).
I agree with this. It seems that TMO is best suited for this unlocked device in the states. Unfortunately I have AT&T and the network really seems to suffer if you're not using a branded AT&T phone. I was leaning on going with the US unlocked model and just pop my sim in to see if I can at least get LTE but like I stated, I'm usually a root and flash guy. I really see no reason for this on the Note 9 and that's saying a lot for me as just about every phone I've had over the last 10 years has been modified to some extent. Because of that, I thought I'd keep my options open for the N9600 since the BL can be unlocked but at least it has the Snapdragon. Then again my worry with that is the same that I experienced with the N960F/DS I just returned which was the extremely poor signal. I appreciate the conversations here. Please enlighten me!
OP. Any reason why you need a BL unlocked device?
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Initially I thought I'd root the phone and be able to modify some things to my liking as well as be able to use Vanced YouTube and a few other root apps I'm use to but like I said with my limited use of the phone I felt like it wasn't necessary. The carrier features are more important than the BL IMO so it's down to the US unlocked (FXAA) and the N9600 with Snapdragon but unlockable BL in case I ever get the itch for root. I hope I explained that craziness so you understand [emoji23]
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OP. Any reason why you need a BL unlocked device?
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is there any issue on buying Pixel from other countries to India. Since Pixel 5 is not officially released in India, the only was Indians can get Pixel 5 is getting one from other countries. Is there any issue in doing so ? Carrier lock, OTA updates, any legal issues (like Pixel 4 and it's radar sensor), or any other issues ?
As long as you buy an Unlocked model, it should be fine. I also live in a country where the phone is not officially sold in but my device works fine with my carrier. The only things that won't work out of the box is VoLTE, VoWifi and 5G. Everything else works fine.
The model I have is GTT9Q, the International Model, although the GD1YQ (U.S model) will also work fine, make sure the one you're buying is a bootloader unlockable model. Ask your retailer if unsure.
OTA updates are no big deal you can change the region setting and get the update as far as sim connectivity is concerned get the unlock version.
swangjang said:
As long as you buy an Unlocked model, it should be fine. I also live in a country where the phone is not officially sold in but my device works fine with my carrier. The only things that won't work out of the box is VoLTE, VoWifi and 5G. Everything else works fine.
The model I have is GTT9Q, the International Model, although the GD1YQ (U.S model) will also work fine, make sure the one you're buying is a bootloader unlockable model. Ask your retailer if unsure.
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Thanks a lot... Anyway I am planning to buy GA01986-US from noon.com, I don't know it will work in India or not. What do you meant by "won't work out of the box is VoLTE, VoWifi and 5G" is there any setting I need to adjust to work properly? It is hard to find compact phone these days. Thanks again.
shoaibiqbal123 said:
OTA updates are no big deal you can change the region setting and get the update as far as sim connectivity is concerned get the unlock version.
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Thanks a lot. I am trying to buy teh phone form noon.com. I am also trying to get in touch with them to ask about this.
pvhm said:
What do you meant by "won't work out of the box is VoLTE, VoWifi and 5G"
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If your country/carrier is not in this list https://pixel.withgoogle.com/5G/, even if your carrier's 5G network is compatible with the phone, it won't work. Google blocks the phone's 5G connection by software for "unofficial" countries so you will need to root your device to force-enable it.
Same with VoLTE and VoWIfi. For these two to work, your phone must have your carrier's specific network configuration file. To have this file, Google must work with your carrier to obtain your carrier's settings to make the configuration file. Google won't work with any carrier/country they don't officially do business with.
You're in India so VoLTE, VoWifi and 5G won't work out of the box, unless you root your device and alter system files to force-enable these features.