Of all the music players out there, I prefer Poweramp. I have the latest 704 alpha version. However, the volume is very low (DVC disabled) as compared to other music players (USB Android Audio, MX Player etc.). Anybody know why? With DVC enabled the volume is even lower.
Check replay gain and adjust to +7db
djconundrum said:
Check replay gain and adjust to +7db
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Thanks. It does not cause more distortion?
You're obviously not using Viper. Mine is too loud.....And thats with the bundled AKG's. Poweramp 704( Choose 24bit/192 in settings) and Viper4android. No eq or dsp in poweramp selected/activated.
Canaan said:
You're obviously not using Viper. Mine is too loud.....And thats with the bundled AKG's. Poweramp 704( Choose 24bit/192 in settings) and Viper4android. No eq or dsp in poweramp selected/activated.
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does viper improve anything for Bluetooth earbuds? have you tested? just curious
Yes, it does. Viper has individual settings and profiles for speaker, headeset and bluetooth. And yes, i've tried them all and the difference is night and day over out of the box.
Now come up with a solution that does NOT require root. I lose too much by rooting.
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Have you verified that the volume control is maxed out on the Note 8? With my Note 8 and Poweramp, the phone has a tendency to "forget" the bluetooth volume setting and drop back down to a much lower output. I'll raise the volume back up to max (the car headunit handles volume control duties) and then it works again - until the next time that the glitch occurs. I haven't tested this without bluetooth - so not sure whether this would occur via the headphone jack.
Poweramp's feature to auto-resume playback upon bluetooth reconnect also doesn't work most of the time (works maybe 5% of the time). I'm a new Poweramp user - so don't know whether this is specific to the Note 8.
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Have you verified that the volume control is maxed out on the Note 8? With my Note 8 and Poweramp, the phone has a tendency to "forget" the bluetooth volume setting and drop back down to a much lower output. I'll raise the volume back up to max (the car headunit handles volume control duties) and then it works again - until the next time that the glitch occurs. I haven't tested this without bluetooth - so not sure whether this would occur via the headphone jack.
Poweramp's feature to auto-resume playback upon bluetooth reconnect also doesn't work most of the time (works maybe 5% of the time). I'm a new Poweramp user - so don't know whether this is specific to the Note 8.
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These issues are ones ive seen since the beginning of poweramp. I've been using Samsung Music since i got my S8 and now my Note8 .
raduque said:
These issues are ones ive seen since the beginning of poweramp. I've been using Samsung Music since i got my S8 and now my Note8 .
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Then I guess I'll have to give Samsung Music a try. Seems odd that it wasn't installed out-of-the-box on the Note 8. But if it works...
GermanGuy said:
Of all the music players out there, I prefer Poweramp. I have the latest 704 alpha version. However, the volume is very low (DVC disabled) as compared to other music players (USB Android Audio, MX Player etc.). Anybody know why? With DVC enabled the volume is even lower.
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Something else has to be wrong. Check in settings> sound quality and effects and set everything to default except UHQ upscaler. If you're not rooted/ using viper, than DVC should make it sound better and louder. I use a flat eq from my headunit with crossovers at-6db/80hz and dynamic bass on high +eq with DVC in poweramp with high res audio, sox resampler, shibata dither gives great results. Also use aux or usb over Bluetooth for car audio. My headunit volume is max and poweramp/phone is maybe 60% and can't turn it any higher than that without damaging something.
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I'm pretty frustrated trying to figure this out. I have rooted my US Verizon - variant of the Galaxy S8 (G950U) with SamPWND.
Step 1) After root, I tried installing Viper mod. In the past with other phones, I always just installed the ARISE sound AROMA 2.94 installer as it does a lot of the work for you like installing the audio effects conf file in the right folder (/system/vendor/etc). So I ran the installer, and on next reboot, noticed Spotify Eq was using Samsung's built in SoundAlive equalizer. I forgot to freeze it first but did it anyhow in Titanium. Now spotify is using Viper. Sound quality sounds like crap.
Step 2) Factory reset and start over, this time using the method mentioned in the SamPWND thread which can be found here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8/development/samsung-galaxy-s8-root-snapdragon-t3659305
- That thread points to this Viper install guide for the S8: https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...laxy-s8-s8-t3596933/post72049061#post72049061
As the guide mentions, I followed the steps by first freezing SoundAlive, copying the zip's audio conf file to /system/vendor/etc, then installing viper apk. Since our bootloader is locked, as I expected, the step to install Magisk fails, so then I simply restarted and opened viper. Sound quality is still crap.
So in either case, I know that Spotify is now using Viper mod for sound eq. I even went into Samsung's audio settings in Settings and it gave me a popup to use viper. I can listen to bluetooth and while the song is playing, change the viper eq and here a difference.
I noticed by default, Viper comes with Dolby, which is ON. I always turn this to off and notice that the sound is better. Dolby seems to overload the sound for me (sounds overpowered and almost at times like it's cutting out). Still, I'm noticing that the bass is solid when mids/highs don't have much activity but gets distorted when guitar really kicks in. Mids sound muddied and tunnel - like . Highs are tinny.
Normally, Viper mod with stock eq settings with all my other phones *always* sounds better than stock. Even with the eq at default and turning off any gains or gain controls / volume normalization, sound quality is still poor.
On bluetooth (I'm using my Sennheiser momentum wireless which are upper tier), when turning off Dolby, Spotify's normalize volume setting, the quality is near where it should be. But, in my Audi with Android Auto over USB, sound continues to be really horrible...I think the bass in the car and larger speakers are pointing out the distortion more. I have to also manually set my volume before running it in the car or else the head unit sound level is too low and I have to blast the volume knob which makes it sound worse.
Any ideas? What am I missing and are you experiencing the same?
So I have a SM-G955U, and I just installed Viper4Arise. I used the latest ZIP from the official V4Arise thread and flashed it using FlashFire. Make sure to check mount /system read/write and leave reboot enabled.
Also, I used the installer to remove SoundAlive.
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So I have a SM-G955U, and I just installed Viper4Arise. I used the latest ZIP from the official V4Arise thread and flashed it using FlashFire. Make sure to check mount /system read/write and leave reboot enabled.
Also, I used the installer to remove SoundAlive.
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Thanks man.
I noticed dolby was on by default. Turned that off and also turned off normalize volume in spotify. Sound is a lot better and no longer over loaded, though I think it might need more tuning. Now I'm wondering if install method matters at all
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Thanks man.
I noticed dolby was on by default. Turned that off and also turned off normalize volume in spotify. Sound is a lot better and no longer over loaded, though I think it might need more tuning. Now I'm wondering if install method matters at all
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Good to hear! Yea, I turned off volume normalization as well. I don't normally install Dolby, so I haven't had to do that one.
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Good to hear! Yea, I turned off volume normalization as well. I don't normally install Dolby, so I haven't had to do that one.
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Installing the apk from the recommended zip installed dolby atmos
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Installing the apk from the recommended zip installed dolby atmos
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APK? I flashed this zip in the FlashFire "recovery" mode. I didn't have to install any APKs.
Link: https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=889764386195922231
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APK? I flashed this zip in the FlashFire "recovery" mode. I didn't have to install any APKs.
Link: https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=889764386195922231
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Yeah, there is a separate 18th thread with an install zip which contains the audio effects conf and viper apk inside
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Yeah, there is a separate 18th thread with an install zip which contains the audio effects conf and viper apk inside
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Ahhh. I didn't go through any of that.
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Ahhh. I didn't go through any of that.
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How are you testing sound quality? I'm fine with the sound over Bluetooth headphones (sennheiser momentum, pretty good ones). But in my Audi, over android auto using usb, the vocals are still a bit harsh. Sub is cleaner now after a ton of adjustments. Vocals still are harsh on the "s" sound. With my previous pixel phone in this car, sound was way better and didn't need so much work
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How are you testing sound quality? I'm fine with the sound over Bluetooth headphones (sennheiser momentum, pretty good ones). But in my Audi, over android auto using usb, the vocals are still a bit harsh. Sub is cleaner now after a ton of adjustments. Vocals still are harsh on the "s" sound. With my previous pixel phone in this car, sound was way better and didn't need so much work
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You can open the status menu in the Viper4Arise app to see if it is processing, other than that, I am listening to it. I know what my Pixel sounded like with V4Ar, and it sounds the same to me. All that being said, I have to use BT to connect to the Sync in my Mustang since I only have Sync 2, which doesn't support Android Auto.
How does Android Auto work? Is the music playing from your phone, or is the car stereo controlling? I know you can connect an Android phone as a USB drive.
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You can open the status menu in the Viper4Arise app to see if it is processing, other than that, I am listening to it. I know what my Pixel sounded like with V4Ar, and it sounds the same to me. All that being said, I have to use BT to connect to the Sync in my Mustang since I only have Sync 2, which doesn't support Android Auto.
How does Android Auto work? Is the music playing from your phone, or is the car stereo controlling? I know you can connect an Android phone as a USB drive.
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Yeah, processing wasn't the issue, and that's why I don't know if the install method matters. I definitely know it's doing something because I move the knobs with bluetooth stream and hear the sound act differently.
With Android Auto, I hook up my phone to the USB port built into the car. Then the phone says Android auto in black and white, and the car display shows the interface for music players, maps, etc.
When auto is up, I can't change the sound settings dynamically since the screen is black. I think if I open viper before the car and have the notification always show, I can load it...but then it's loading a separate instance of the app, not the main one.
I had to really change the bass settings on my phone *and* the car (normally don't have to) to make the bass not distort. The audi's stock sound is junk. I got a nice JL Audio amp installed and a 600W JL Audio woofer.
With the pixel, in the car, I had the bass dial in the audi set to one two notches above mid way and the treble down 4 notches. Now, with the rooted s8, I'm having to dial its bass setting down 2 notches from mid (instead of up) and instead turn up the bass knob on the JL Audio woofer just a hair. Anything else and it distorts.
Out of the box, the Pixel just sounded great to me. I don't know why the S8 is taking all this work. Even with my note 4, I didn't have this issue of having to tweak the hell out of it.
Is there a way to boost the volume without Root?
Thanks for any help!
need that too!
First make sure your media volume limiter is off, then go to equalizer and push all frequencies to max, that should give you about 10 dB extra.
Can't promise that it will work but they're is an app called SpeakerBoost that I've installed
..... Seems to work
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First make sure your media volume limiter is off, then go to equalizer and push all frequencies to max, that should give you about 10 dB extra.
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how do you do that
settings/sounds and vibration/sound quality and effects
actually just go to settings, click on search functions (circle with with line on the bottom, top right corner) and type media volume limiter, or whatever function you're looking for
I try it, but continue with low volume. My previous Note 2 had louder audio.
ok
Just a comment, my 950F does not have a media volume limiter option
Download "Speaker Booster" on the Play Store. Hope this helps
I tried pretty much everything but nothing really actually worked. If you use the SoundAlive profiles or boost the EQ it just limits the two top volume levels from working.
I have now rooted and manually changed the mixer_gains.xml file and it's amazing now. super loud with no distortion at all.
Sadly rooting is really the only way to go. Dunno why Samsung limit the volume so much when the DAC is capable of a far better volume output. It's the one thing that really lets this handset down.
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I tried pretty much everything but nothing really actually worked. If you use the SoundAlive profiles or boost the EQ it just limits the two top volume levels from working.
I have now rooted and manually changed the mixer_gains.xml file and it's amazing now. super loud with no distortion at all.
Sadly rooting is really the only way to go. Dunno why Samsung limit the volume so much when the DAC is capable of a far better volume output. It's the one thing that really lets this handset down.
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Can you link me the mixer paths you used?
All you need to do is change the values in mixer_gains.xml as per the screenshot. Root only of course.
This is only for the wired headphone volume.
After trying about 5 models of headphones and being ridiculously low volume in all of them (especially in Spotify and YouTube videos), I found a expensive solution, but that has solved the problem withoutroot, i have bought the Jaybird X3, very good quality, very good volume and good insulation, despite being in ear.
I still think that with normal headphones, such as those that come in the box of AKG, Xiaomi Piston 2, Sony STH32, Sony SBH24 or even the great AudioTechnica M40X the volume is ridiculously low on this mobile.
Greetings.
It is ridiculously low, and has been on Samsung mobiles for a while now. Seems they need to protect us from ourselves. sad.
As stated above, root and a simple change to a text file makes one hell of a difference.
Another good solution is an external DAC like the Creative E3. It works well too and no need to root.
Hey, I'm with you all ; the volume of the note 8 is low. Now I tried every GD volume app on the play store and none work. I kept looking and I found one that works: Music Equalizer and Bass Booster by Coocent. This app no **** will increase volume. I swear.
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kradcliffe said:
I tried pretty much everything but nothing really actually worked. If you use the SoundAlive profiles or boost the EQ it just limits the two top volume levels from working.
I have now rooted and manually changed the mixer_gains.xml file and it's amazing now. super loud with no distortion at all.
Sadly rooting is really the only way to go. Dunno why Samsung limit the volume so much when the DAC is capable of a far better volume output. It's the one thing that really lets this handset down.
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Could you please advice if this would work if you use Bluetooth devices, such as speakers or headphones? I mean it is so annoying that samsung actually achieve year over year to have worst volume... just when you think it couldn't get worst.
I would appreciate if you can let me know!
jag5001 said:
Hey, I'm with you all ; the volume of the note 8 is low. Now I tried every GD volume app on the play store and none work. I kept looking and I found one that works: Music Equalizer and Bass Booster by Coocent. This app no **** will increase volume. I swear.
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I followed your tip, but in my 950F, exynos, this app in fact decreases the volume! It may only work with snapdragons
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Can you link me the mixer paths you used?[/QUO
any chance you could give us the mixer and gains file
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.goodev.volume.booster
I use this...works great but don't boost over 30-33%!
Hello!
I have a problem with my new Xiaomi Mi 8. I would like to confirm if its only my device doing that or other devices too. Its running Android 9 with Miui 10.2.3.0.
When I set the lowest possible volume (not muted) the static noise is louder than the sound coming out of built in speaker or earphones connected via jack. It is pretty noticable even when the sound is set to high and there are e.g. silent parts of song. It does not matter which app I use (youtube, spotify, default music app). When I connect my bluetooth headset everything is okay and the sound is clear.
For testing purposes I am using song Kaleo - Way We Go Down. I find it most noticable there. The song even breaks and stops playing for a few milliseconds in the begining. Can you guys somehow test this issue and reply here with the results? I want to see if I am the only one having this problem.
Btw when I connect my earphones to my 4 years old iphone 6 the sound is crystal clear.
Thank you.
Hi all,
Been using a P20 Pro for nearly 2 weeks and the only issue I have is the volume in YouTube app - its too low when set to max.
When using the loudspeaker and headphones (usb-c to 3.5mm adapter) on both the volume output is not particularly loud. Other apps such as tiktok or even the music player give loud audio output but not the YouTube app.
I turned off the battery optimization but this didn't make a difference. Similarly played around with the atmos setting and doesn't make a difference.
Compared to my S7 Edge, the P20 Pro cannot be heard using YouTube and loudspeaker with side by side tests.
It seems to be a software issue - has anyone else noticed this?
someone check for me please, im using EMUI 9.1.0
I think it's due to music player supporting Dolby Atmos while other apps can't. Can confirm YouTube plays at lower volume than Music player, not sure about Tik Tok as I haven't used that.
Pretty much what the title says. I'm looking to disable the audio wizard and/or get a louder output from the headphone jack. My OnePlus 6 headphone jack is louder than this. On the other hand the Poco x3 pro I bought before buying the Zenfone 8 has a way worse headphone jack. I don't think the OnePlus 6 has a dedicated DAC/Amp so I don't see why this phone has lower output volume other than a software limitation. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Try Poweramp Equalizer (paid app) and enable Direct Volume Control.
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Try Poweramp Equalizer (paid app) and enable Direct Volume Control.
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I tried that but it doesn't bypass audio wizard. Audio Wizard is still processing the audio. Is there any other method like adb or whatever (except rooting because I want Google pay)
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I tried that but it doesn't bypass audio wizard. Audio Wizard is still processing the audio. Is there any other method like adb or whatever (except rooting because I want Google pay)
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In that case, your only option would be a custom ROM I think.
Does Google Pay not work even with MagiskHide?
Magisk hide is not reliable and constantly gets patched. I don't want to worry about Google pay.
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Magisk hide is not reliable and constantly gets patched. I don't want to worry about Google pay.
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You can try uninstalling it via adb
https://www.xda-developers.com/uninstall-carrier-oem-bloatware-without-root-access
I will try disabling it using adb to see if to works. If it doesn't then I'll enable it again and just wait for a software update
Did it work? I would like to use Poweramp's equalizer too so....
Disabling it did work. It is no longer in the settings menu. However the output volume is about the same
How about the Poweramp equalizer? Does it work? On every output?
I'm not sure as I don't have it installed. Here's the thing though disabling through adb is easily reversible so try it yourself
Yeah I'll do it tonight. Was just asking for comparison. I'll try tonight and try to make some tests.
Let me know how it works. I'm not sure if Poweramp uses digital processing when adjusting the preamp setting or whether it directly controls the volume. I had it installed previously but I could not tell.
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How about the Poweramp equalizer? Does it work? On every output?
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Yes, tried with speaker, headphone jack and bluetooth
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Let me know how it works. I'm not sure if Poweramp uses digital processing when adjusting the preamp setting or whether it directly controls the volume. I had it installed previously but I could not tell.
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Like I said earlier, you have to enable Direct Volume Control in settings and it really makes a difference.
The problem isn't the headphone jack. I don't know why, but Spotify with Poweramp Equalizer enabled is still much quieter than Poweramp player. Not just via the jack, but bluetooth too. I'm using the same EQ preset on Poweramp and Poweramp Equalizer btw. I haven't disabled the AudioWizard, but I don't think it matters because when I change anything there the sound changes both in Poweramp and in Spotify.
Have you disabled normalize volume on Spotify?
For me I had the same issue but only for the first day. Now it's the same on both Poweramp and Spotify all I did was turn off the normalize sound option
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Have you disabled normalize volume on Spotify?
For me I had the same issue but only for the first day. Now it's the same on both Poweramp and Spotify all I did was turn off the normalize sound option
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I had it enabled. Now both can get much louder than my ears can handle.
Fantastic. For me it's still a bit too low for my hd600 and my akg k702. My OnePlus could drive them fine but these I gotta go full volume to get something reasonable. My main question is whether or not the preamp option is digital processing or whether it acts directly on the dac. Because with the preamp setting on Poweramp equalizer I can get it pretty loud.
with Usb audio player you can bypass it