magisk root VS chainfire - Magisk

Hey guys just need to double check some information
Currently using a Google Pixel with Purenexus 7.1.2 and chainfires root.
Tired of waiting for PN 8.0 so going to slflash to stock and was wondering if magisk root would be a downgrade from chainfires as I am a power user

dantexaiver said:
Hey guys just need to double check some information
Currently using a Google Pixel with Purenexus 7.1.2 and chainfires root.
Tired of waiting for PN 8.0 so going to slflash to stock and was wondering if magisk root would be a downgrade from chainfires as I am a power user
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Not a step down at all, I've only had Titanium Backup give me any type of warning about it, but gave me no problems.
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Not sure why you think it would be a "downgrade". It give you root, and that root functionality is not significantly any different from SuperSU. Plus, Magisk has a big collection of cool "systemless" modules which can be easily loaded and unloaded.
Each method has its pros and cons. Read up on both, and decide, as it's primarily a personal preference. But personally, I was a longtime SuperSU user, and was hesitant to jump on the Magisk bandwagon. But now that I have, I have yet to go back or even consider it.

The thing is, magisk provides simplicity over SuperSU. Also systemless feature give it ahead start of SuperSU

dantexaiver said:
Hey guys just need to double check some information
Currently using a Google Pixel with Purenexus 7.1.2 and chainfires root.
Tired of waiting for PN 8.0 so going to slflash to stock and was wondering if magisk root would be a downgrade from chainfires as I am a power user
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MagiskSU is based on SU original binaries so isn't a downgrade, its just that if you use Magisk, the su binary u will use will be ajusted for Magisk compatibility.

Then, Titanium Backup works with Magisk's root?

loginsvarios said:
Then, Titanium Backup works with Magisk's root?
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Yes! On my Samsung Galaxy S5 Neo it works great.
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loginsvarios said:
Then, Titanium Backup works with Magisk's root?
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Yeah, every app that I use that requires root works fine for me
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loginsvarios said:
Then, Titanium Backup works with Magisk's root?
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Of course !
An su access demand stay the same, its just that between Supersu and Magisk, the demand isn't manage in the same way.

Thanks for the info, I need to patch the boot file and see if it work

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Custom rom without root to play pokemon go

Hi guys,
Last update of pokemon go block rooted devices so i ask if it exist a custom rom without root to play pokemon go.
Is it possible to unroot CM13?
I don't want to go back to 5.1.
Thanks
P.S. sorry for my bad english
titou4488 said:
Hi guys,
Last update of pokemon go block rooted devices so i ask if it exist a custom rom without root to play pokemon go.
Is it possible to unroot CM13?
I don't want to go back to 5.1.
Thanks
P.S. sorry for my bad english
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There are tools to hide super user for banking apps etc. You can try them, maybe it works.
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strongst said:
There are tools to hide super user for banking apps etc. You can try them, maybe it works.
Sent from my Z1 using my hand
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Use root clock xposed module
Shubhams053 said:
Use root clock xposed module
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I know, you should tell it @titou4488[emoji1]
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I didn't try any xposed module or app to hide root but it seems that it doesn't work for users who tested that. People talk about "magisk" but i never test this and i don't sure how install it.
Finally i achieve to install magisk and it works perfectly!
titou4488 said:
Finally i achieve to install magisk and it works perfectly!
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you can always use root cloak
ak_bagade said:
you can always use root cloak
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saw from other posts that RootCloak doesnt work.
Even the Approved Apps for RootCloak doesnt include Pokemon GO
I use magisk with bliss and it works so i didn't try rootcloak, but i don't achieve to unroot nuclearom in order to flash magisk. Any advice?

Magisk with CM13 and Xposed

Hello guys. I'm tempted to install Magisk on my Zenfone 2 ZE551ML. I have the latest CM13 Nightly + Xposed and I want to ask if Magisk has any problem running alongside these two.
Another question is if I can still use the built in CM13 root.
Thanks for your answers!
Im running on CM 13 (ZenFone 2 Laser ZOOL) stable and it works fine.
The only problem is that with xposed active the safetynet check don't pass. But its just a matter of disabling xposed and rebooting when necessary.
I dont know if the differences are too significant, but hope it helps.
FHC1998 said:
Im running on CM 13 (ZenFone 2 Laser ZOOL) stable and it works fine.
The only problem is that with xposed active the safetynet check don't pass. But its just a matter of disabling xposed and rebooting when necessary.
I dont know if the differences are too significant, but hope it helps.
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That means Magisk doesn't work with Xposed ? Or I just have to unninstall Xposed and then install again after installing Magisk ?
PedroCaseiro said:
That means Magisk doesn't work with Xposed ? Or I just have to unninstall Xposed and then install again after installing Magisk ?
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Magisk itself works perfectly with Xposed installed, only Magisk Hide that doesn't hide Xposed.
So if you don't plan on using any app that checks Safety Net (Pokemon Go, Android Pay, for example) You won't have any problem.
FHC1998 said:
Magisk itself works perfectly with Xposed installed, only Magisk Hide that doesn't hide Xposed.
So if you don't plan on using any app that checks Safety Net (Pokemon Go, Android Pay, for example) You won't have any problem.
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and what about the built in CM13 root ?
I think the newest Magisk auto removes it when you flash it.
But I had manually removed before installing magisk on mine.
But in any case, if I remember correctly you can just remove it thru the SuperSU app before flashing Magisk.
FHC1998 said:
I think the newest Magisk auto removes it when you flash it.
But I had manually removed before installing magisk on mine.
But in any case, if I remember correctly you can just remove it thru the SuperSU app before flashing Magisk.
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I'll try it then and hope not to **** up my phone. Thanks
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PedroCaseiro said:
I'll try it then and hope not to **** up my phone. Thanks
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No problem. Just remember to make a nandroid backup first if you are worried.

Installing magisk

Hello,
Using Z3compact with Xperience Rom v10 (customized latest sony firmware) which is rooted (supersu) and xposeed installed (v83).
I want to ask, how to do it:
1) uninstall supersu app and xposeed app
2) flash magisk
thats all?
pajos.gabros said:
thats all?
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Sounds too simple, doesn't it? :laugh:
That really is all there's to it... You could probably keep your Xposed installation, but there are some nice systemless Xposed modules available for Magisk.
I have seen a few reports of users struggling a little with some Sony devices though, so make sure you have a backup before starting.
Didgeridoohan said:
Sounds too simple, doesn't it? :laugh:
That really is all there's you it... You could probably keep your Xposed installation, but there are some nice systemless Xposed modules available for Magisk.
I have seen a few reports of users struggling a little with some Sony devices though, so make sure you have a backup before starting.
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yeah, i tried some time ago (but without app uninstalling) and i got a bootloop
Can I use locked bootloader?
pajos.gabros said:
yeah, i tried some time ago (but without app uninstalling) and i got a bootloop
Can I use locked bootloader?
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No you can't.

[Pool] Is Magisk working for you ?

Hello everyone !
I will develop a new app like Magisk but very easy to install and manage.
Opened this thread because i am tired of bootloops and rom installs i had and also i am curious how many people are happy with Magisk.
Feek free to post your thoughts here.
I also need a name for this app so please suggesting one will be a good thing.
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Magisk is a pretty amazing app. One stop shopping for many of my Superuser needs. I use it for audio mods anti G-spy stuff and much more. Magisk works great for me but I love having options. Good luck, interested to see were you go with this.
Regards
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Hmm... Interesting. Magisk is beast honestly. I was a tried and true SuperSU user and nothing else for years and it took me awhile to make the complete switch to magisk but it's amazing. Not onyl is root reliable, I always pass safety net, and there are tons and tons of modules for magisk which makes it that much better. Development is booming for Magisk and the modules.
1. Are two reserved posts necessary?
2. Magisk is pretty easy to install and manage already. Especially with the number of supported devices.
I'm all for options/competition but why not contribute to Magisk?
loserskater said:
1. Are two reserved posts necessary?
2. Magisk is pretty easy to install and manage already. Especially with the number of supported devices.
I'm all for options/competition but why not contribute to Magisk?
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1. Yes. These post are necessary.
2. I do not think magisk is easy to install ( especially when updating )
3. :highfive:
AndrOmega said:
2. I do not think magisk is easy to install ( especially when updating )
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For my own curiosity and in the interest of possibly helping to improve Magisk, what kind of issues do you have when updating?
Didgeridoohan said:
For my own curiosity and in the interest of possibly helping to improve Magisk, what kind of issues do you have when updating?
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i wanted to update from 14 to 16 from manager= bootloop
installed with twrp= bootloop
uninstalled from twrp with magisk uninstaller=bootloop
reflashed clean rom=cannot install magisk anymore
quited and building a better app :highfive:
AndrOmega said:
i wanted to update from 14 to 16 from manager= bootloop
installed with twrp= bootloop
uninstalled from twrp with magisk uninstaller=bootloop
reflashed clean rom=cannot install magisk anymore
quited and building a better app :highfive:
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While you're building your app, the recovery log and boot image from from that clean install could be very useful and possibly help make Magisk more robust and compatible with more devices. :good:
AndrOmega said:
i wanted to update from 14 to 16 from manager= bootloop
installed with twrp= bootloop
uninstalled from twrp with magisk uninstaller=bootloop
reflashed clean rom=cannot install magisk anymore
quited and building a better app :highfive:
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I've never had any of these scenarios happen. When I dirty flash ROM with Magisk already installed, I flash over top and everything is same as before dirty flash. If I uninstall, then reinstall, obviously it's a clean setup. I've never had bootloop 9nce I don't think. Your most likely not dirty flashing, thus it is compressing imag over image essentially when trying to uodate. Mgisk says restore stock boot I'm going before updating, which is what dirty flash does. If you would either dirty flash or just flash stock boot image before doing any of the things you've attempted you most likely won't bootloop
Yes. I have encountered alot of situation -bootloop and softbricks- where the culprit is magisk. I eventually thought not to use it but I'm obliged to use it for its quite awesome module mechanism. Thefore, every possiblity that involves magisk with no bootloop is appreciated.
Magisk 16 and Samsung Galaxy S5=Safety Net failed
All is ok only on Magisk stable 15.3
AndrOmega said:
i wanted to update from 14 to 16 from manager= bootloop
installed with twrp= bootloop
uninstalled from twrp with magisk uninstaller=bootloop
reflashed clean rom=cannot install magisk anymore
quited and building a better app :highfive:
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Didgeridoohan said:
While you're building your app, the recovery log and boot image from from that clean install could be very useful and possibly help make Magisk more robust and compatible with more devices. :good:
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Why build your own app when you can build upon a great foundation that is magisk ? Working as a community.. nothing beats it.
Many minds is better than one!
fOmey said:
Why build your own app when you can build upon a great foundation that is magisk ? Working as a community.. nothing beats it.
Many minds is better than one!
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@fOmey magisk development is now halted and i predict that will be stopped by google in the near future (android p)
my new project is based on CYDIA SUBSTRATUM ENGINE and will be a great root and xposed tool !
:highfive:
AndrOmega said:
@fOmey magisk development is now halted and i predict that will be stopped by google in the near future (android p)
my new project is based on CYDIA SUBSTRATUM ENGINE and will be a great root and xposed tool !
:highfive:
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Not really ("halted") and possible but unlikely ("android p"). I appreciate the hubris but think such positive energy would be better invested in collaboration with the Magisk team/community which brings considerable expertise and experience to the table.
AndrOmega said:
@fOmey magisk development is now halted and i predict that will be stopped by google in the near future (android p)
my new project is based on CYDIA SUBSTRATUM ENGINE and will be a great root and xposed tool !
:highfive:
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Well if your apps can stop Xposed from triggering Safetynet then yes you will have a lot of support from user including me...
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iPusak Gaoq™ said:
Well if your apps can stop Xposed from triggering Safetynet then yes you will have a lot of support from user including me...
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i am focusing on xposed implementation with passing safety net test :good:
AndrOmega said:
@fOmey magisk development is now halted and i predict that will be stopped by google in the near future (android p)
my new project is based on CYDIA SUBSTRATUM ENGINE and will be a great root and xposed tool !
:highfive:
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Doesn't Cydia Substrate require root? So people would need Magisk anyway? And hasn't Cydia been dead for a long time?
No offense but you seem to like to get people hyped with nothing to show for it so there's going to be some scepticism.
Davey126 said:
Not really ("halted") and possible but unlikely ("android p"). I appreciate the hubris but think such positive energy would be better invested in collaboration with the Magisk team/community which brings considerable expertise and experience to the table.
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Completely agree

Full Andoid Backup including system etc and apps / Simple Magisk Module

Please someone create a module for full andoid backup including system etc, apps.
For people who don't have TWRP because is not available and no Root access only using Magisk . It will be a great deal and help last rescue. Thank you so much for understanding.
LucasNoob said:
Please someone create a module for full andoid backup including system etc, apps.
For people who don't have TWRP because is not available and no Root access only using Magisk . It will be a great deal and help last rescue. Thank you so much for understanding.
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Have you tried Flashfire? https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.chainfire.flash
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metalcated said:
Have you tried Flashfire? https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.chainfire.flash
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I try OK. My phone is branded os and is not possible to make backup using for example ADB command because always my phone just freeze to death and need reboot during ADB backup >
metalcated said:
Have you tried Flashfire? https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.chainfire.flash
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Not working for my LeEco le3 Pro AI x650
Uhhh if your phone doesn't have root, then you don't have Magisk. So a Magisk mod is useless for you. If you do have root just use titanium backup or similar app to back your apps up and restore them. It can even do system apps.
metalcated said:
Have you tried Flashfire? https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.chainfire.flash
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pbanj said:
Uhhh if your phone doesn't have root, then you don't have Magisk. So a Magisk mod is useless for you. If you do have root just use titanium backup or similar app to back your apps up and restore them. It can even do system apps.
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I have root only in magisk no other possibilities existing now, root otherwise is not available for my phone not yet.
A titaniumbackup make full Android backup? Including modification of xposed framework etc.... ??
LucasNoob said:
I have root only in magisk no other possibilities existing now, root otherwise is not available for my phone not yet.
A titaniumbackup make full Android backup? Including modification of xposed framework etc.... ??
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Maybe this will help? https://forum.xda-developers.com/le...ds/le-pro3-ai-version-x650-eui5-925s-t3716455
And also, TitaniumBackup does not do full partition backups.
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metalcated said:
Have you tried Flashfire? https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.chainfire.flash
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FlashFire doesn't work on my phone
you can use migrate to backup
Migrate - ROM data backup: 4.0 - Apps on Google Play
after flash your rom and root install Migate flasher and restore without custom recovery
Migrate flasher - Apps on Google Play
...and it works with A12 n A13? On phones with A/B partition? If so, I need to give it another, esp. since the new version...fingers crossed.
Zaxx32 said:
...and it works with A12 n A13? On phones with A/B partition? If so, I need to give it another, esp. since the new version...fingers crossed.
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I test it on A12 & A13, using emergency restore but it's only useful in backup user and system apps, not full system backup

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